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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Lists of people. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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Lists of people

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List of philosophers (A–C) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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List of philosophers (D–H) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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List of philosophers (I–Q) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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List of philosophers (R–Z) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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These long alphabetically ordered lists are basically unmaintainable, and the majority of them have already been redirected or deleted. See here, here, and here for precedent. Psychastes (talk) 19:08, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm not sure how much of a precedent those are. The country articles are *much* bigger topic domains than this one. Jahaza (talk) 20:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a matter of magnitude, there are about 12600 people under Category:Philosophers; and in my own review of philosophy pages, I generally encounter far more articles that lack any appropriate philosopher category than the other way around, so even allowing for a few miscategorizations that's probably a lower bound. Comparatively, WikiProject Myanmar seems to have about 10000 mainspace articles. Psychastes (talk) 21:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect all to Lists of philosophers. Lists that big are basically worthless and they also duplicate categories. They are not actually useful for informational or navigational purposes when they combine thousands of people with various characteristics and levels of notability. The lists that break the topic down by field, nationality, or time period are more accessible and there's no good reason to keep an unmaintained master list. But geez, a lot of those are crappy bullet-point-only lists too... Reywas92Talk 22:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • information Note: These were originally separate but later bundled. The other AFD pages are now just redirects to this one; I'm not sure if that would cause any problems or not. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 11:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of philosophy anniversaries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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a list of when every philosopher was born and died is not remotely helpful, and impossible in practice to maintain, this is WP:LISTCRUFT Psychastes (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of current Combate Global fighters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Incomplete list, no one notable linked on it. Minor organization. Just no need for it. Nswix (talk) 05:07, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube suspensions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST—I cannot find any sources discussing persons or channels suspended from YouTube as a group. Zanahary 07:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is okay to delete this list. If there is a lack of reliable, secondary sources about how many channels have been suspended from YouTube, then it might be strange to have an article listing YouTube suspensions. Plus, this article has been so big that, unless if one watches it, it has been hard to detect the multiple issues against Wikipedia's policy on the biographies of living persons that the article attracts. The suspensions from YouTube may already be mentioned on articles about channels or people with YouTube channels.
So... you can delete this. CarlFilip19 (talk) 08:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Major League Rugby Player of the Year (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not a notable topic on it's own, very minimal content. All content can be merged to Major League Rugby under a new section titled Awards (or similar) Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a section on this already exists on Major League Rugby Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:11, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of Muslim Nobel laureates (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:OR, most of the people on this list aren’t actually Muslim. Non notable list as noted on its talkpage. It contained unreliable references including Answers.com. Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC) I’ll note last time it was nominated for deletion in a bundle 18 years ago and that was closed as delete. And then it was nominated again in a bundle with other articles three years ago and that was closed as no consensus. Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:46, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Past Sharks junior squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Almost all of the players in this list are not notable. Louis (talk) (contribs) 15:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is false. They are notable in so far as they record who played for a major club side, some of which end up playing for other teams. If that information is not recorded then it is lost, making it impossible to track player development and also maintain the history of a significant rugby club. For me this is like removing films from a director's filmography because they are not critically acclaimed. Whybeetoo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:RU/N they are not notable. "Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG." See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability#Biographies. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But these are not Biographies? And so that section doesnt apply. This is a page that allows the tracking of player development over an extended period, allowing a reader to understand the health of a junior system. Its not a list of biographies. Secondly these are not youth players, these are professionally contracted rugby players, all above the age of 18. Whybeetoo (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, WP:SIGCOV. A google search of "Sharks Junior Squad" reveals minimal results with all those relating to this topic being from primary sources. A new catogary would be better suited for this ie: Category:Sharks (rugby union) junior players (or similar) for any players that pass GNG of WP:RU/N Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you google the component teams of the Junior Squad you get substantial mentions from multiple sources. This includes multiple independently sourced press coverage. Sharks u21, u20, u19 etc. The Junior Squad is just a catch all term for players contracted but eligible for these teams. The mentions are not trivial or in passing, they are articles specifically written about these teams and often these players. Whybeetoo (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of mayors of Auburn, Washington (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:NLIST due to a lack of coverage as a group by reputable sources. The lone book source listed is self-published, and the other sources concern individual mayors rather than the collective group. Disputed PROD. SounderBruce 00:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of military attachés and war correspondents in World War I (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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What possible reason is there to join two distinct groups in a "list" that is not a list, when the two groups have their own separate lists? Clarityfiend (talk) 12:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Puzzling: I see now in the talk page that the decision was made in 2022 to split the list in two. However, is still retaining an article (of sorts) the only way to keep the edit history? Clarityfiend (talk) 12:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Kevin McCallister (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete. Lists only one primary topic (that isn't even properly listed as the PT) and several similar-sounding names. Not sufficient at all for a DAB page. GilaMonster536 (talk) 02:17, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of World War II war correspondents (1942–43) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Arbitrary criterion (" war correspondents who reported from North Africa or Italy in 1942-43") fails WP:NLIST. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

oppose deletion, does not fail WP:NLIST because of established notability Vofa (talk) 12:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Second ladies of India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A niche term at best, a made-up term at worse to promote an Indian counterpart to the American second lady. None of the existing citations mentions the term "second lady" and are only used to support claims that certain persons are wives of the Indian vice president. A search on Google does not yield any evidence of established endonymic usage of the term second lady of India (which is not merely a substitute for vice president wife). Searching "Uprashtrapati Bhawan hostess" also does not yield any quality sources. The role of Second Lady of India (as hostess of the Uparashtrapati Bhavan may not even exist even in unofficial capacity. Or if they do, they don't use the term). Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Also note that Commons:Category:Spouses of the Vice President by country has images for these spouses. — Maile (talk) 00:34, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The premise is flawed. You are operating under the premise that "second lady" (mostly an American-centric term) means the same as vice president spouse. My objection is that the article is largely fiction because there is not a widely documented role of "Uparashtrapati Bhavan hostess" Hariboneagle927 (talk) 13:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete – The comparison between the (Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the United States) page or category is not appropriate. According to Wikipedia's guidelines, such a page seems justified, but it requires reliable sources for support. The sources available for this page do not meet the criteria outlined in WP:GNG, so the page does not fully comply with this guideline. For example, the wife of the U.S. Vice President receives significant news coverage and publicity in India[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15], whereas in India, the wife of the Vice President does not receive similar publicity or news coverage. If there is any coverage, it typically mentions them in connection with their husband. If you believe I am mistaken, please provide 4-5 sources that confirm news coverage specifically for the wife of India's Vice President.-SachinSwami (talk) 07:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete - US-centric fictional term. Lijil (talk) 13:37, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Geez, I don't know and don't think I can !vote one way or the other until digging into the sourcing beyond what we are seeing here, but this is a tough call. On the one hand, the present sources don't seem to provide the focused, subject-oriented coverage we'd normally want to see to support GNG. On the other hand, I just have a hard time believing that we couldn't hit that threshold--not withstanding SachinSwami's observations, which I do consider valuable insight. It's just that we don't necessarily need 4-5 such sources containing detailed coverage. 2-3 and a smattering of other indirect references will probably get this past an initial AfD. It does remain to be demonstrated that this threshold can be met. But I'd be kind of shocked if it couldn't honestly, given the size of India's media market and the footprints of its national political leaders? SnowRise let's rap 08:48, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment as what SachinSwami said the spouse of the vice president of India barely receive any coverage than say the US Second Lady Usha Vance, probably due to her heritage. I might give a nudge that this deletion nomination is for the supposed role of Second Lady of India, not the "vice president's wife". Because the US Second Lady is an actual role with its own proper documentation that is the differentiating factor here. Excluding sources which merely says "woman was Vice President's wife", this article has literal zero sources. The term "second lady" (not as a merely as a substitute term for vice president's wife) does not even get mentioned. Doesn't mean that the United States have a second lady, we got to force one on other countries. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 13:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no tradition in India of referring to "First Ladies of India" or "Second Ladies of India." No major Indian newspaper or news channel uses these terms in their reporting. At most, one or two sources might mention "First Ladies of India," but these are insufficient to support such claims, even on Wikipedia. However, if any sources explicitly use "Second Ladies of India," please provide them. Typically, sources refer to the wife of the President or Vice President as such, and only in contexts where they accompany the President or Vice President at official, political, or private events. SachinSwami (talk) 11:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that is the thing. First ladies and gentlemen of India have at least the Indian Express and Mint mentioning the concept of a "First Lady of India". Second lady there is none at all.
So if even if the First Lady counterpart is rarely used or noted consistently by the Indian median then the First lady article should be instead "spouses of the president of India" (not deleted since spouses of world leaders do receive significant coverage, but that's a conversation for another day). Hariboneagle927 (talk) 14:36, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Candidates of the 2024 United Kingdom general election by constituency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a lengthy list of candidates per constituency in last year's UK general election. It is all sourced to a single website. It violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY: it is not an encyclopaedia article and is better suited to Wikidata. We have all this information elsewhere (in the individual constituency articles) if someone wants to find out who stood in a particular constituency. What is the value of having it all in big Wikipedia tables repeated here? Bondegezou (talk) 20:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've found it helpful on numerous occasions in my work, it saves me so much time rather than having to go into individual constituencies to find out. It exists for countless other countries and deleting it would only hinder. I would agree that if it were being created now then it would be problematic but it would ADD burdens, admittedly for only a few people but us nevertheless, rather than making anything more simple or easier to use. Please keep this genuinely very helpful article. Kepleo123 (talk) 21:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How is it a valid navigational article? Nearly all losing candidates don't have articles to which to navigate, so the main navigation is just to the winner, but we already have List of MPs elected in the 2024 United Kingdom general election that covers that. How many different ways do we need the same information? Bondegezou (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. What is it's value? Its value is in its use. I use the page regularly to access information. I find it an invaluable resource. We would not want to delete something if there is data showing that the page is well used. No data is being provided to justify its deletion. Graemp (talk) 11:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just because nearly all of them don't doesn't mean there's anything at all invalid about this particular article. SportingFlyer T·C 16:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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1982 United States House of Representatives election doesn't exist, so I'm unclear what point is being made here? Bondegezou (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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