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Moved discussion

Questions and answers, after a period of inactivity, will be moved to other relevant sections of the wikipedia (such as the FAQ pages), placed in the Wikipedia:Village pump archive (if it is of general interest), or deleted (if it has no long-term value).



See the archive for older moved discussion links. For the most recent moved discussion see Wikipedia:Village pump/January 2004 archive 7

Requests for help and comments

  1. Daniel's redirect project still needs your help with fixing thousands of broken links
  2. Muriel Victoria and Bmills urge you to vote at Wikipedia:Refreshing brilliant prose
  3. mav invites you to discuss expanding the focus of the Sep11Wiki at meta:Wikimorial
  4. Adam suggests every American Wikipedian visits List of Members of the U.S. House of Representatives and contributes a short biography of their local Congress-person (see also public domain congressional biographical directory)
  5. Dysprosia requests comments on the new login text
  6. Viajero asks for your help in expanding the Guidelines for controversial articles
  7. moink wants help with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Fluid dynamics.
  8. Gentgeen has started Wikipedia:WikiProject Games.
  9. Use {{msg:inuse}} to avoid edit conflicts. See MediaWiki talk:Inuse
  10. Eloquence requests feedback and comments on the changes to the Wikipedia:NPOV tutorial
  11. Jmabel wants help with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic Groups. Those of us actively working on this are getting close to consensus on a template, please weigh in soon if you might disagree.
  12. Alex756 asks for comments and criticisms regarding Wikipedia:Submission Standards and Wikipedia:Terms of use.
  13. ilya invites all math geeks to discuss what articles should be written as we move towards 1.0
  14. Feature plug: Tim Starling is running anIRC bot at #enrc.wikipedia that displays recent changes. (French and German bots at #derc.wikipedia and #frrc.wikipedia). See VP archive for more.

OpenOffice Software Documentation

--> Talk:OpenOffice.org

Mistake on sitewide redirect page

Fixed, thanks for the notice. --Brion 07:15, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Sweden's Deaf Schools

moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk

animated gif

-->Wikipedia talk:Image use policy

orphaned redirects

-->Wikipedia talk:Redirect

US national archives photos - public domain?

-->Wikipedia talk:Copyrights

Suggestion: faculty rooms

-->Wikipedia talk:Village pump

How to use new Extended Image Syntax

-->Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax


Fanny Kaplan vs Fanya Kaplan

-> Talk:Fanya Kaplan

Stats page is empty

The "Usage Statistics" page displays an empty apache page (since Jan. 28th at least)... Maybe because of recent server problems? Why not insert some dummy page?

Moreover, the display of the empty directory is bad from a security point of view: directory listings should be disabled in Apache's httpd.conf.

Lapinou 20:35, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Reading level?

Has there been a discussion about the target reading level that we are aiming for? I see a wide range in the articles. I've watched many articles start out understandable by a layman but end up so qualified and academic that only a scholar already in the field can make sense of it. Rossami 21:51, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Continued at m:Reading level

Minor mention of Wikipedia on Yahoo

-> wikipedia:press coverage

Title of your page

-> Wikipedia:Overview FAQ

Unable to access article: Transvaal

When I try to get to the article on Transvaal, it gives a blank page. Same thing happened yesterday...

The page is still in Google's archive though.

I can access Transvaal ("The Transvaal was one of the provinces of South Africa"). Earlier I had a problem where one page (and only one) kept appearing without the left hand menu and the bottom of the screen menu, so there was no "edit this" link (which is what I was trying to do). It sorted itself out after a while. I think the pedia might be a bit glitchy today. fabiform | talk 03:02, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Harry Potter Madness

Earlier I removed the synopsis of the Harry Potter series from Harry Potter to Harry Potter (plot) in order to remove the spoilers from the main article.

I just added links from that page to the individual books, and noticed that there is not only a lot of duplication between the various Potter pages, but that there seems to be far too much detail. For example Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets has over 6 screens of plot 'synopsis'. And this is one of the shorter books!

What is the policy on this? And is that policy enforceable on what are obviously big fan pages? --HappyDog 02:22, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Searching

Search and edit bugs seem to be fixed. Thanks for the feedback!


RC bug?

This bug has been squashed. Thanks!

Stealth Vandalism of Slashdot trolling phenomena

-> Talk:Slashdot trolling phenomena


I was just looking at Microsoft, and noticed that there was an inline link to ku:Microsoft. I assumed it was an accident in the markup ([[:ku:Microsoft]], like the one just there). But in the source, it is quite clearly correct: [[ku:Microsoft]]. The same problem appears on Bill Gates, and even on the German sandbox, so it seems the software just isn't accepting ku as a proper language. (Yes, I know it's a software issue, and those live elsewhere, but I suspect it's just a switch needs flipping somewhere, rather than a full-on bug...) - IMSoP 17:00, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)


Village pump is overpopulated

See the Village pump is overpopulated section in Wikipedia talk:Village pump or click here: [1] for a discussion on how to keep VP small and usable. Optim 18:19, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Transwiki protocol

The transwiki protocol looks great, but I've a question... how do I link to an article in the process of transition? Will links to the Transwiki pseudo-namespace be converted to links to the final article when the process is completed? Is this described somewhere and I've missed it? Andrewa 01:37, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

When a page moves from the transwiki namespace to the real one, the resulting redirect will be kept so that any links made to that page during transition are not broken. I've added this m:transwiki now. Angela. 02:43, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)
That sounds so obvious when you say it. Thank you! Andrewa 04:40, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Fun with Phantoms (I.E. anon users)

Running down the new recent changes by anon users page reveals all manner of articles in need of wikification or other loving care and attention. I urge all Wikipedians to make time each day to review this list. Elde 03:17, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Overlinking to overly-broad terms?

-> Wikipedia talk:Make only links relevant to the context

Articles on Business Entities

->wikipedia:Projects

Feature request

-> wikipedia:ignored feature requests. Do not raise bug reports or suggest features here.

small photos and big photos

Could someone vistit Monument to the Royal Stuarts, and fix the nifty magnifying glass thing, which I copied from Athens, so that it leads to the big version of the photo as it is supposed to. The big version is uploaded as [[Image:ac.stuarts.jpg]] and the small version as [[image:ac.stuarts2.jpg]]. Obviously I have missed a step in the process somewhere. Adam 11:41, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

With the new version, you need just one picture. I changed it on the page. Hope you like the result. -- User:Docu

Many thanks. So I just upload the big version, and then specify in the edit box the width I want the small version to appear as, is that correct? Adam 11:54, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

  • Yes, but I haven't tried out all options yet. A quick way to do it, seems to be [[Image:ac.stuarts.jpg|thumb|Monument to the royal Stuarts, Rome]] -- User:Docu
Have you been here yet: Wikipedia:Extended image syntax? There are examples of the different options that you can copy and paste.  :) fabiform | talk 13:40, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Here's the code I'm now using for a large pic with its associated thumbnail, it seems to work fine:
[[image:yourfilename.jpg|thumb|right|300px|<center>yourpicturetitle</center>]]
Put double apostrophes around the picture title to give the italics.
DON'T UPLOAD A THUMBNAIL, the new code does it for you.
The result is a centred, italicised, caption and a nice-looking thumbnail 300 pixels wide and set on the right of the article. Go to Morris Marina to see how it all turns out.
Can I suggest that 300 pixels be the standard thumb width, it makes a thumbnail big enough so that the reader is not forced to view the big pic but not so big that the text is squeezed into a narrow channel on an 800 by 640 screen.
Adrian Pingstone 15:28, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I second this suggestion. A standard width of 300px would be perfect. Hadal 16:32, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Table markup

Could someone please check the table on my sandbox? I'm trying to switch from using HTML to the wiki code and am not sure I've got the hang of it yet. Thanks -- sannse 12:40, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

An easy way to check the table is to look at the HTML source of the page. You may even fix it there and place the result back into Wikipedia. -- User:Docu

Article count

For an article count updated rougly every 5-15 seconds, see #enrc.wikipedia on irc.freenode.net -- Tim Starling 14:49, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

Clarification: Freenode IRC. Optim 14:57, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Copyright 2000 - 2004 © European Space Agency. All rights reserved.

If this agency is "inter-govermental" how can it claim copyright? Sennheiser 15:32, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The US govt does not claim copyright, but other govts can and regrettably do (crown copyright, etc). As such, the ESA can likewise claim copyright. Martin 15:51, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Possible problem with new pic code

It seems that a link can't be used in the caption when using the new pic code. For example this produces a picture:
[[image:luft.a300b4.d-aias.750pix..jpg|thumb|right|300px|<center>''Lufthansa Airbus A300''</center>]]

but this gives no picture:
[[image:luft.a300b4.d-aias.750pix..jpg|thumb|right|300px|<center>''[[Lufthansa]] Airbus A300''</center>]]

(Ignore the double dot in the filename, that has nothing to do with the problem). Are links in captions not now allowed or am I doing something wrong?
Adrian Pingstone 18:04, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I asked for this at meta. Dori | Talk 18:13, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)
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