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The Toven Draft

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You wrote

@Spiritletters: - you've still got 2 wikipedia references, and Discogs is a non-reliable, non-independent source. The band's own site can be referenced for some things, but so that you're aware, it won't help prove that they're notable (as it obviously can't be independent). Your first source is dead-linking, and it looks like it would be quite key, so that would be worth checking. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:53, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

My reply

1.Thank you for your response. However. Discogs is notorious used throughout wiki pages as the sole reference for thousands of pages. Why is it singled out as a issue here?

2. The first source that is dead-linking was not dead linking on the original draft date for this article was submitted and wiki is aware of this. It was suspiciously deleted by the san diego reader with malicious intent to harm the drafting of this page. The San Diego Reader must be involved with wiki in some way as this publication has maliciously attack, slandered and attempted to defame The subject of this draft.See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hemmingson publishing section regarding The Toven. Obviously this was Michael's last published story was regarding The Toven and he passed away three days later. Jay Allen Sanford is the ring leader and has been for years. In fact, it was him that deleted the link you refer to as key. We plan to get to the truth.

Again I asked, since link one was deleted how do we address this with the reader who committed a unethical and despicable act by deleting it?01:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Spiritletters (talk)

@Spiritletters: - Discogs' usage as a source is indeed notorious as a source usage - many articles were created early on before the more aggressive vetting rules were implemented. However huge numbers of those articles get either redirected or deleted if additional sources can't be found (I'm not a specialist in the field and have probably fixed 100 and redirected twice that)
As to your second one, links deadlink to recent publications quite frequently, and thus far you've not given any evidence for it being in malice. Anyway, for our purposes, your best option is to hunt for an online archived version. I suggest asking about that at the Teahouse - they specialise in helping new editors and someone may be able to find a copy on one of the archives. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
The evidence of malicious intent is that the article was deleted one day after it was cited for this page. Furthermore you were provided additional evidence showing malicious intent here https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2014/jan/06/according-aversioncom-cd-review/ by Michael Hemmingson who died three days after his last article above on The Toven.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hemmingson The San Diego reader has been upset over the death ever since and even submitted false information to wiki claiming Hemmingson left the publication in 2009 when in fact he continued writing for them up until his death in 2014.
The question of the missing link was submitted nearly a month ago to TEAHOUSE and no one responded. As an administrator maybe you can submit the inquiry. Screenshots of the deleted article were taken and are available. Overall Sources say that The San Diego Reader has ties to Wikipedia and have continued to halt the publication of The Toven article while slandering his artistry at every chance.
Wouldn't be surprised Jay Allen Sanford himself wasn't a wiki administrator or volunteer stalking the would be pages of San Diego artist like The Toven. We intend to confirm.
RespectfullySpiritletters (talk) 15:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, as a first note, please indent paragraphs with ::: (However many is needed), it makes it a big easier to see what's in your reply.
It's removal is only a correlation with his death and/or the creation of the draft, there isn't any demonstration of causation. Nor does that page you link to demonstrate any malicious sign for the removal of content, or really, much beyond a degree of tastelessness.
While I've no idea if Sanford is or isn't a volunteer, it's extremely hard to find out about a draft - they aren't search engine indexed, and would have to be specifically searched for on wikipedia itself. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the thoughful reply. however the review clearly goes beyond tastelessness and the deletion of the discography review article (that sat untouched on the web for years until it was cited on wiki) carried malicious intent.
Sanford finding out about a draft for The Toven is the easiest thing on earth (besides something else I wont mention) he is a long time writer for the publication and co-wrote with his friend Hemmingson often. He most likely authored his OWN Wikipedia page and the wiki page for Hemmingson. Not many notable rappers in San Diego so it wouldn't be hard at all.
Would this article below be accurate regarding dates? Or could the great publication make a typo regarding dates? Kinda weird for a journalist to publish a article for a publication 5 years after he so called left the organization.

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2014/jan/28/ticker-rip-michael-hemmingson/

RespectfullySpiritletters (talk) 16:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2014/jan/28/ticker-rip-michael-hemmingson/

@Spiritletters: - if I conceded that they were acting like this, would that not bring its own problem - it would make the publisher fundamentally unreliable, and so the source wouldn't be suitable. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:29, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Good point however..I'm not sure who the 'we' are that you refer to I'm just overwhelmingly convinced based on this draft and the history Jay Allen Sanford and the San Diego Reader that they are bent on impeding my success through the local media which we all know derives for artist locally. San Diego journalist are too busy catering to superstars and a billion local 'bands' that are from everywhere else but San Diego. San Diego entertainment media are bent on the belief that notable talent is what 'they make it' or declare it to be and if they don't stamp it, that person somehow isn't worthy.
That attitudes will soon be 86'd. Its too many outdated and bias decision makers especially in San Diego who may have about one hip bone in their entire body.

Respectfully — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiritletters (talk • contribs) 22:11, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Rotimi Segun

Hello, Nosebagbear. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rotimi Segun".

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Help to Publish Article

Aashish Kaushik is a notable person on google check this link - https://g.co/kgs/Eqfrmj Help to publish the content. Diksharohilla (talk) 17:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Diksharohilla:, hello. I've left several pieces of advice on your draft. They need to be followed before this draft has any chance of being accepted. In future, please don't contact reviewers directly - the best approach is to follow the guide at the article wizard - it will let you submit your draft to our reviewing process. There's a bit of a backlog, but you can continue to work on it until it's reviewed, which is mostly oldest first. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on editing philosophies after reading your userpage

What is a radical transwikist? I've mostly heard of inclusionists and deletionists, although I haven't quite settled on a specific editing philosophy myself. I have seriously considered joining the m:Association of Wikipedians Who Dislike Making Broad Judgments About the Worthiness of a General Category of Article, and Who Are in Favor of the Deletion of Some Particularly Bad Articles, but That Doesn't Mean They Are Deletionists though. Also, I agree with you that the oversight logo does look a bit creepy with the visual of chunks of the Wikipedia logo missing. Clovermoss (talk) 01:00, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss:, hi there. So Transwikists want to move problematic articles to a wiki where they better belong (whether that be a different language or a different project). There are smoother ways, but the formal method is at this meta page. I can't actually find a page for them, nor do I know of any (I've never even seen a transwiki vote, but it does remain an option on the AfD tracker - I've no idea if it used to be more common, such as when a new project was made and things could move to it). But in hope that one day I would see such a unicorn, I put it into my userpage as a whimsical wish. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation. I've also never seen someone !vote that way at AfD, but I'm not very active there to begin with. I can see a few ways this might be useful: articles that are dictionary definitions being used on wikitionary, articles that aren't in English being moved to the project in that language, etc. Clovermoss (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I think I have enough reliable sources for a short entry on the founder of a chatbot company. But when I went to start it, I saw the deletion notice with the suggestion I contact you first. If you have a moment to check these, do you think them adequate for WP:BIO? My lead line was going to be: Henri Ben Ezra is an Israeli businessman, described by the Jerusalem Post as having potentially provided the seventh Israeli discovery to influence the world for his work on implementing AI chatbots in software and messaging.

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@Seleucus123: - hi there. I've had a read through every source you've given. The HR and Forbes articles aren't reliable/independent, so can't add notability. The wfmj, jpost, newstrail articles don't really have much about Ezra himself - quite a bit on the company, lots on the general and specific technology, but very little content from Ezra that isn't a quote (quotes being inherently non-independent). The same limitation applies with the interview, which doesn't say much about Ezra outside of the answers, which thus aren't independent. The amazon site itself obviously isn't reliable (not that you were using it in that sense), but it might be worth looking for some reviews of the text (academia, industry publications, newspaper reviews etc). That might be able to help you show notability through a different route than GNG. You obviously aren't obliged to take my viewpoint on the issue (the page isn't protected), but that's my perception of the sources. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for taking the time. I think what you say is fair and if I return to the topic I'll leave it for if and when there is a clincher. Seleucus123 (talk) 14:36, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I made changes to the page in the headline. Removed advertorial content and the tag as well. Would appreciate if you could take a look. Best, Pratat (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pratat:, hi there. The article is definitely no longer advertorial. It may or may not suffer notability risks, but someone can raise that as an issue if they are concerned. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:46, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: thx. Personally - I think there is a notability issue, but there was a discussion and the call was to keep...Pratat (talk) 14:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The website I put down is a government website stating that Cannon's campaign paid someone $500 to create his page, this page needs to be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTW1998+ (talk • contribs) 19:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JTW1998: even undisclosed paid editing does not normally lead to the summary removal of an article (though it would usually lead to the creator being blocked). Another editor has since improved the article significantly since it was originally created, so it definitely won't be deleted (they may well even have removed any bias issues that might have been present). Nosebagbear (talk) 19:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About my appeal

The appeal got archived without a Template:Archive top consensus. Since no one proposed anything else, does your proposition of me being able to appeal in another three months (during which I'll try to edit more disputable areas) become official? --Steverci (talk) 00:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see ....

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Have you got a link for what they did fr.wiki? SmartSE (talk) 16:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Smartse: this probably is useful on that front Nosebagbear (talk) 21:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Having been keeping up to speed lately. SmartSE (talk) 08:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding this edit: you referred to "the committee" out of the blue, which I think might raise questions about it and its membership. If you just meant "whoever shows up to comment", then perhaps a more general, inclusive term would be better? isaacl (talk) 17:03, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Isaacl: - thanks for pointing out. "Community" seemed to cover the general gist so I've replaced with that Nosebagbear (talk) 21:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Correlation of energy and GDP is causation as suggested by numerous papers and seeking to help restore the Wikipedia page of the "Garrett's relation".

Concerning the deletion of the "Garrett relation" article, what would need to change to make it meet the Wikipedia guidelines?

The comments suggest that the post is original research, which is false. C.f. the 7 first (of many more) links provided as source: 

1) Garrett, Timothy J. (2011-02-01). "Are there basic physical constraints on future anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide?". Climatic Change. 104 (3): 437–455. arXiv:0811.1855. doi:10.1007/s10584-009-9717-9. ISSN 1573-1480.
2) Garrett, T. J. (2012-01-05). "No way out? The double-bind in seeking global prosperity alongside mitigated climate change". Earth System Dynamics. 3 (1): 1–17. Bibcode:2012ESD.....3....1G. doi:10.5194/esd-3-1-2012. ISSN 2190-4979.
3) Garrett (2011). "How persistent is civilization growth?". arXiv:1101.5635v1 [physics.soc-ph].
4) Maddison, Angus (2007). The world economy volume 1: A millennial perspective volume 2: Historical statistics. Academic Foundation.
5)Garrett, Timothy J. (2014). "Long-run evolution of the global economy: 1. Physical basis". Earth's Future. 2 (3): 127–151. arXiv:1306.3554. Bibcode:2014EaFut...2..127G. doi:10.1002/2013EF000171. ISSN 2328-4277.
6) "The long run evolution of the global economy - Part 2: Hindcasts of Innovation and growth" (PDF). www.earth-syst-dynam.net. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
7) Nolthenius, Richard (March 2018). "Civilization as a Thermodynamic System: Connecting Energy and Economics" (PDF).

Sure some links are faulty and would require updating, yet the research is peer-reviewed and making its way to economics. C.f. for example the following paper that cites Tim Garrett:

"Economics for the future – Beyond the superorganism" https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ecolecon.2019.106520 by Nathan J. Hagens https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800919310067#bib0210

Correlation does not imply causation, yet many hints suggest that GDP is unfortunately facilitated by energy, c.f. in particular the paper above (and more sources cited in that paper) but also discussed at length in Tim Garrett's papers.

Tim Garrett is also working together with Steve Keen, an economist working on energy, for more interdisciplinary, c.f.: https://www.patreon.com/posts/model-start-to-26875256

This partnership also led Steve Keen to coin the following quote: "Labour without energy is a corpse; capital without energy is a sculpture."

Economics touches numerous fields, in particular climate change these days (mostly via the energy channel). Interdisciplinary is thus a necessity and could shed light on blind spots that the discipline of economics may have. Energy is one such blind spot Tim Garrett's work helped uncover. In that sense, the Wikipedia page was a very helpful resource. (I noticed the deletion of the page no less than 15 days later as I refer to it regularly.)

It is also discussed that the article is self-promotion, which I disagree with in the same way that I do not see the Euler's formula as being a self-promotion of Euler. Or a more recent example, the Keeling curve.

If the name is the issue, I'm sure one could work toward finding an alternative naming. In any case, I am willing to help resolve any issues.

Best, Gordonschuecker (talk) 00:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC) mathematician and economist.[reply]

  • @Gordonschuecker: You would need much more secondary coverage that covered this (as opposed to small facets) in depth, most likely including secondary coverage (whether than be (meta)reviews or mainstream news coverage). Wikipedia rarely covers new topics - we much more summarise things already considered in significant detail by multiple researchers. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

for The Signpost

Yes, please write up the article you proposed for The Signpost. A basic description of the process, goals etc would be great. I've read most of the 3 pages you linked to, so I purposely did not write "a simple description". You might consider getting 3-4 *short* reactions from people who discussed the matter on those pages, but please don't start a "here are the two sides of the issue" type of a discussion, for one thing there are likely to be several sides of the issue. A short paragraph from somebody at T&S might be ok, but that's up to you. Please give me an extra couple of days before deadline to review and edit it - perhaps make some suggestions. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Thanks. Smallbones(smalltalk) 03:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nbb - I've copied your submission over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/News and notes. We can all edit it there now - up to Sunday morning. I'm sure the copying is ok because you were the only person to edit it so far, you're attributed in The Signpost, and you submitted it. Please feel free to make any and all edits over there. Thanks. Smallbones(smalltalk) 12:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking to help restore the Wikipedia page of the "Garrett's relation" Part II

Part II to "Correlation of energy and GDP is causation as suggested by numerous papers and seeking to help restore the Wikipedia page of the "Garrett's relation""

You would need much more secondary coverage that covered this (as opposed to small facets) in depth, most likely including secondary coverage (whether than be (meta)reviews or mainstream news coverage).

Doing a little research, I have found plenty of secondary coverage, c.f.:

"Modelling civilization as ‘heat engine’ could improve climate predictions" https://physicsworld.com/a/modelling-civilization-as-heat-engine-could-improve-climate-predictions/

"Energy Could Hold the Key to Predicting Global Growth" https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b14zbd705jv9cw/energy-could-hold-the-key-to-predicting-global-growth#.UXhZRaWkZUs

And there are a lot more on Tim's pages, c.f. here: http://www.inscc.utah.edu/~tgarrett/Economics/Media.html

and here: http://www.inscc.utah.edu/~tgarrett/Economics_modeling.html

Wikipedia rarely covers new topics

Please note that the concepts have been around for over ten years now.

we much more summarise things already considered in significant detail by multiple researchers.

Checking on Google Scholar, one can find ample citations, for example 28 for "Long‐run evolution of the global economy: 1. Physical basis".

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&sciodt=0,5&cites=6443386690730587388&scipsc=

See for example especially this paper: "A Biophysical Perspective of IPCC Integrated Energy Modelling" https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/11/4/839

with the following quote from its abstract: The biophysical economics perspective is that GDP and productivity growth are in fact emergent parameters from the economic-biophysical system. If future energy systems were to possess worse biophysical performance characteristics, we would expect lower productivity and economic growth, and therefore, the price of reaching emission targets may be significantly costlier than projected.

Or

The Dynamics of Human Society Evolution: An Energetics Approach https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.04400

If one digs further, I'm sure many more could be found.

Would it be possible to establish a roadmap to bring the post back online? Say - x article citations needed - y paper citations needed - Rewrite parts that are particularly problematic? - Change the name of the Wikipedia article? (Although I stand by my opinion that this would make the Wikipedia article more difficult to find, in the same way that I wouldn't know how to find the Keeling Curve if using the name of the author would have been problematic as well.)

If you or any of the persons having expressed concern over the article could provide some guidlines, any help would be greatly appreciated!

Best, Gordonschuecker (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Discussion Garrett Relation

Deletion review for Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 August 29

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 August 29. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Gordonschuecker (talk) 13:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Date formats

Hi, I realise this was a couple of years ago so apologies if you already know this. Please refrain from using purely numeric date formats on Wikipedia, as you did on Stellina. A date written as 01/02/03 means 1 February 2003 to a European, 2 January 2003 to an American or 3 February 2001 to a Japanese. Rather, use one of the date formats that is standard across Wikipedia: 8 June 2025 for articles on British/European topics, June 8, 2025 for articles on American topics, otherwise just keep it consistent throughout the article. Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers for more information on how to write dates in Wikipedia articles. Thank you. — Smjg (talk) 11:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Smjg:, I mean April was the first month that I actually became active in, so not especially surprised I was making mistakes. Though given that it's a French drink, I probably felt using the evidently correct European numerical date system was perfectly legitimate. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Tanya Unni - Aug 2020

I saw you had deleted a new page (Dr_Tanya_Unni) due to significant copying. I have since rewritten the content, removed some unnecessary sentences, and checked it against a plagiarism checker. Can I post the updated version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsvishal (talk • contribs)

@Itsvishal: You can. Please be ultra-careful, since a second rapid deletion usually leads to "salting" which will make it far harder to work on in the future. You appear to have written it off-wiki, so I can't check it, but another patroller will. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:16, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, will do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsvishal (talk • contribs)

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Rename & courtesy vanishing request

Duplicate/admin shopping, see User_talk:Deepfriedokra#Rename_&_courtesy_vanishing_request for a post that already has replies. Primefac (talk) 17:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I have chosen to ban myself from this website indefinitely due to an indiscretion that I made. The mistake was completely unintentional and not malevolent, but it doesn't seem like it was taken that way, and people's feelings seemed to have been hurt, so I will no longer edit. I completely misread the names of and mixed up two people that I shouldn't have. Before I do leave, I'd like for my name to be changed and my account to thereafter be vanished, please. I put in a request, but it's been a week since. Is there any way for you or another administrator to manually get this done or to look over my request? Factfanatic1 (talk) 05:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Getting "Williams Telecommunications" wiki up to code

Hi there! Appreciate your feedback on the speedy delete, I work in music so I think I'm used to writing things in a more flourish-y way than Wikipedia prefers ahaha. Do you have any advice for what can be included to make a page seem less like advertising? When I looked at telecom competitors, their pages were similar but had info about bankruptcies, lawsuits, etc. and this company doesn't have anything in that department at this point. Could I include more about the products/suppliers or the repair facilities? Kpaigewilliams (talk) 16:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kpaigewilliams: In terms of what you talk about, you want your content "weighting" to roughly match how much reliable secondary sources talk about it (so that's not the company's website or press releases) - this can be somewhat different to what you think your company actually spends most of its effort doing. I suppose bankruptcies et al get more coverage, so obviously they're included (but good to hear the company is neither going bankrupt or being sued!). One common issue is where the included content is all accurate and sourcable, but excluding relevant negative content.
More relevant is "how" you go about talking about it - don't make any specific claim about how a product is interpreted unless you've got reliable sources doing reviews on them (as opposed to just individuals etc).
If you ping me when you've finished it as a draft I'll take a look at it to at least determine whether I think there are blatant issues at hand. Issues with the former I can just point out to you, issues with the latter are what is most likely to cause a speedy deletion. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: Appreciate your help, I'll get back to work and let you know once I've got something I think might be more sufficient! Thank you so much. Kpaigewilliams (talk) 16:39, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drunk History Australia

Hi Nosebagbear, I've noticed that you decided to remove the CSD tag I placed on Drunk History Australia. I realise that Drunk History actually exists, but the article contains several instances of unfinished text in the "Episodes" section. The article also does not have a reference section or any sources at all. I must say, the article still appears to be something better suited to a sandbox. It certainly should not be in the mainspace in this state. Please let me know what makes you think that this is a finished article as I'm still learning the ins and outs of CSD. Best Modussiccandi (talk) 17:22, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Modussiccandi: - hi, it certainly was too incomplete for an article, so I've draftified it (turned it into a draft). I just reviewed the speedy delete reasons, which only exist for extremely narrow reasons. So, for it to be a test page, it would need to clearly just be someone testing the function (these are most commonly pages say "hi" or "this is a test" etc). Since it looked as if they'd attempted to make some content (even if insufficiently for an article), it wasn't a test. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:26, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification, that makes sense. I understood the criterion in a way that's too broad for its intended scope. Thanks again and best Modussiccandi (talk) 17:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jim Drucker

On 15 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jim Drucker, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jim Drucker, the founder of the world's largest online-only comic bookstore, was also the commissioner of both the Continental Basketball Association and the Arena Football League? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jim Drucker. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jim Drucker), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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What can I do to stop vandalism without being an admin?

I look in the log but there is nothing I see that is suspicious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thfile4thrank (talk • contribs)

@4thfile4thrank: - firstly, please make sure you sign your messages. This will be necessary for any posts you make on talk pages, like warning users.
So much of the basic counter-vandal work I do involves just going to the "recent changes" page on the left, and checking the "diffs" for various edits, especially those with suspicious summaries (e.g. being a big edit that just has "typo" or "tweak" as its summary).
If you want a proper education in counter-vandal work and the various tools designed to help fight them, the best place to look is the Counter-Vandal Academy (CVUA). They have trainers who focus in this field, and can help you identify and stop it better than I can. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to use the tool? - ❄️Steve talk? 18:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication Timothy Garrett

Re "Alternatively, if you want to get some experience elsewhere and then have it userfied, just let me know at a future date".

What kind of experience do you recommend getting before being able to get the userfication going? I'm unfortunately quite busy, would love to contribute, but I'm not sure where my expertise could be used anyway? If I remember correctly, climate change topics in general are especially thorny?

Is there any possibility to get the userfication going with kind of your "supervision" to make sure the resulting Wikipedia page meets all the quality criteria? I've also contacted Richard Nolthenius and he would be willing to help too. Though he has the same issue than I have in having a "single purpose account" for now.

Thx for any help! Gordonschuecker (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is Richard Nolthenius here, aka SalviaStellarum. I don't know Gordon, but we've now exchanged an email. What we have in common is an interest in the observed economics/energy consumption relation discovered by Garrett, and which I decided needed a name, and gave it the name "The Garrett Relation", with no prompting from Tim. Indeed, I've never met Tim or talked with him, but we've now exchanged emails over the past couple of years. It's highly unfortunate that despite a series of peer reviewed publications from Garrett and now with the help of economist Steve Keen and mathematician Matteus Grasselli (https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0237672), and my own informally published look at confirmations in the data, that the Wikipedia article was so summarily taken down for unclear reasons that apparently have nothing to do with the merits of the science. I admire Wikipedia's dynamic updating of information on a topic, and let the best science win. I don't think taking down "The Garrett Relation" article serves the betterment of knowledge. If conventional economists have intellectual ammunition sufficient to wreck the relation, let them unload on it in the article itself, in the sunlight and fresh air of good scholarship. And on the subject of userification and "single purpose", it would seem to me that anyone relatively new to Wikipedia will find themselves here and editing or creating because of a single subject of interest. I don't pretend to be a generalist contributor to wide ranging Wiki articles. I too am quite busy; my duties are to Cabrillo College and my students, primarily.SalviaStellarum (talk) 17:41, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another try... Gordonschuecker (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Appian Corporation

Hello! I'm reaching out because you added a {{more citations needed}} flag to Appian Corporation two years ago. For full transparency, I have a declared COI and have recently worked with other editors to update the page. With these updates, there are now 42 references on the page. Do you believe the flag still applies? Thank you! JMGAppian (talk) 21:12, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User's resuest to be unblocked

User thewolfchild has after around 18 months requested to be unblocked.

But see how rude he was to me when I supported him for an unblock, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thewolfchild&diff=prev&oldid=892978225 his response was "didnt ask".

If you look through his history, he has been self-absorbed or even focused/stalking all my edits, and in effect twisting my mind. So take note of this if you unblock him.

Thank you

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@BlueD954: - I certainly will consider your comments and check over their interaction with you, but I would like to clarify. In this message it says you supported him for an unblock, but in the diff it says "I do not support the removal of the block". Which is the case? Is there a particular reason for the difference or just a typo? Nosebagbear (talk) 12:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well I supported him for a block but not indefinite I believe I said around 6 months back then? He rudely removed my comment with the curt summary "didnt ask." If you look at my talk page, he is very stalkish and aggressive. He removes my comments from his talk page. He signs without the need to allow ou to click to talk to him. BlueD954 (talk) 12:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thewolfchild is stating nonsense. He followed every edit I made and it messup every edit I made. He appeared to be stalkerish. That is my view. BlueD954 (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will end the argument and not debate on his talk page where I will no doubt get curt replies.BlueD954 (talk) 02:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Callan Method (October 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:
This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
essentially advertising
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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@DGG: - just re-assuring you that I haven't started submitting non-neutral drafts - I must have made a mistake in the template when submitting on behalf of another user. I'll pass it onto the draft creator. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
of course you haven't. For something that has been reviewed or submitted more than once, the template sometimes selects the wrong editor. It tries to send me notices like this too, when I rescue an article. I try to catch it, but I must have missed this one. The AFCH. script and associated templates all need rewriting , preferably from scratch. I think they're beyond fixing. DGG ( talk ) 16:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ANI report on Normal Op

Hello, you had participated in the report I filed on ANI, which was archived by the bot without closure, despite clear consensus. Is Request for Closure the appropriate venue for unarchiving and closing this discussion with action?PearlSt82 (talk) 14:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PearlSt82: that can work, or you can just recreate in AN/ANI (hatted, so the page doesn't endlessly grow), with a request for closure. But it should get a proper look at for a close and action Nosebagbear (talk) 14:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!PearlSt82 (talk) 14:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication Timothy Garrett [2nd try]

I'm trying to push my previous section again this way. Thx for any help! Gordonschuecker (talk) 20:35, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal archived without resolution

It had been archived, though one admin supported the appeal and no one opposed it. What happens now? --Steverci (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Archived again. No one commented after you. --Steverci (talk) 15:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Steverci: - this has become ridiculous. I've dropped a line to some other non-involved admins to ask if they can close it. If they don't do so within the next day or two please drop me a line and I'll IAR and close it myself. Apologies for the procedural nightmare. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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