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:::[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]] - Sorry you have been so sick, I hope you are on the mend, especially given the holiday season! Since I commented on it as a participant (as opposed to a reviewer) I'll leave it to the closing admin to decide what the best process is for them. Regardless of who the article creator is (even if they are banned, sometimes they create articles for notable subjects whether we like it or not), I prefer to review most articles individually. It's also a less confusing process for reviewers (like me). [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain|talk]]) 16:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC) |
:::[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]] - Sorry you have been so sick, I hope you are on the mend, especially given the holiday season! Since I commented on it as a participant (as opposed to a reviewer) I'll leave it to the closing admin to decide what the best process is for them. Regardless of who the article creator is (even if they are banned, sometimes they create articles for notable subjects whether we like it or not), I prefer to review most articles individually. It's also a less confusing process for reviewers (like me). [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain|talk]]) 16:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC) |
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::::@{{u|Missvain}}, thanks Missvain, Gosh!! Malaria is actually a terrible ailment I appreciate your sympathy, I understand your concerns, mass nominations are quite daunting, you are correct, but i checked the articles and they all reeked of UPE and were using the same “Reference trickery” in all the articles where they cleverly use good Nigerian sources but almost all the reliable sources are “unreliable pieces” in almost all the articles. I deemed it bad faith editing & an attempt to game the system, but all the same {{u|Missvain}}, I indeed hear & understand you when you say individual nominations are easier to follow. '''[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]]''' ([[User talk:Celestina007|talk]]) 17:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC) |
::::@{{u|Missvain}}, thanks Missvain, Gosh!! Malaria is actually a terrible ailment I appreciate your sympathy, I understand your concerns, mass nominations are quite daunting, you are correct, but i checked the articles and they all reeked of UPE and were using the same “Reference trickery” in all the articles where they cleverly use good Nigerian sources but almost all the reliable sources are “unreliable pieces” in almost all the articles. I deemed it bad faith editing & an attempt to game the system, but all the same {{u|Missvain}}, I indeed hear & understand you when you say individual nominations are easier to follow. '''[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]]''' ([[User talk:Celestina007|talk]]) 17:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Is there any coverage of George Walter Wetmore from late 1800s and early 1900s inthe newspaper archives? Do they have Florida papers from back then? African American papers? Lived in Jacksonville in Duval County. G. W. Wetmore also used. Thanks! One source refers to him as a lawyer and says he was pivotal in combating a segregated streetcar ordinance. He definitely served in the Florida House of Rwpresentatives. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I couldn't find anything, unfortunately. There also seem to have been a lot of George Wetmore's at the time. SilverserenC 19:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thabks very much for having a look! FloridaArmy (talk) 17:54, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
I've been meaning to come by and thank you for your help and for moving Lou Swarz forward. Yet hear I am asking for more help! Is there some good newspaper coverage for Mabel Kelly?
I'd also love to have a an article or teo converning Draft:Langston High School (Arkansas), but ai inderstsnd if it's not am area of interest for you.
I watched all of Tall, Tan, and Terrific but still am not sure who Lou Swarz plays. She does appear in the opening credits. I would so love to hear or be able to watch one of her monologues. I was ahppy to see somone added an image of her. Thanks again for all your help. Happy Holidays and New Year. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:54, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Weird, I can't find anything on Mabel Kelly, FloridaArmy, not even for the listed films. Did she have an alternate name that newspapers might have used?
- I found stuff for the High School, but nothing that would be usable in an article, just mentions that people attended there and such. I wouldn't expect newspapers to be the source for info on schools, books might be a better bet.
- As far as I can tell for Tall, Tan, and Terrific from how the news articles described it, Swarz wasn't playing a specific named character. You might even say she was playing as herself, perhaps, but she was basically there to be the reaction person to the main lede. The comedic side character, without having actual speaking lines. SilverserenC 22:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 06:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Lou Swarz
Hello! Your submission of Lou Swarz at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cbl62 (talk) 13:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
The refusal to accept Draft:Ethelyn Gibson shocks me and appears counter to policy. Would you be able to help dig up some good nespaper coverwge of her so she can move to mainsapce? Thabks again for all your help. If you're busy no worries and I understand if you are doing other projects. Regards. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:56, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think I'm done with the article. What do you think, @FloridaArmy:, @Whisperjanes:? SilverserenC 00:22, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! In the Lord Heath source her original family bame is said to be Strouse. And he parents and siblings are identified. I'm not sure how reliable that source is considered but it seems legit. Can we (ie. you) confirm? FloridaArmy (talk) 02:28, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: There's a list of sources at the bottom of that article, so I'd just use those instead. It looks like the family stuff came from the FamilySearch website, which contains census information. Which is reliable, yes. I'd just cite it directly rather than this other person's personal site. Hmm, @SusunW:, think you could help with this one too? SilverserenC 02:33, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think the article looks great. Thanks so much, Silver seren, for adding all that content. @FloridaArmy: I do wonder about the family name "Strouse", as well as the date of death - I can't find an Ethelyn (or Ethel) Strouse in Ancestry.com or FamilySearch records that was born in Ohio in 1897. There are a couple Ethel Gibson's born that year in Ohio, but none that seem related to a "Strouse" name (and no way to tell if any are her). I believe the 1897 Ohio birth is correct, since a 1920 census that includes her and her husband says she was born in Ohio, and specified her age as 23 (and there was at least one newspaper article that referred to her as 14 in 1911[1]). Since I can't find it in other sources, I feel like it's likely that the "Strouse" name originated from a marriage index between a "Roy Weisberg" and an "Ethelyn Strouse" on January 22, 1916, from Cook County, Illinois. It's possible they were married there, since Chicago is where Weisberg/West was from in the U.S. However, unless we can verify that that was the date of their marriage, I think it's better not to include the name Strouse - I'm just not sure if that's the same Ethelyn or not. Other than that, the lordheath website mentioned the date of 1972 death was incorrectly written in sources. I know this book mentions that death date, but I'm not super sure where the date originally came from. So if it isn't widely printed or there aren't other sources other than that one, I might err on the side of caution with that too and remove it from the article. But I think that date could go either way - so, thoughts? - Whisperjanes (talk) 06:19, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Silver seren and Whisperjanes:, sorry, had an entire day of family emergencies. Since we are far flung across the globe, it was a lot to deal with. But, thank goodness for technology. I'll look around and see if I find anything more than Whisperjanes, but her research looks pretty thorough. SusunW (talk) 13:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, this one is really hard. I tried to see if I could make any connections between Horatio/Robert/Ruben Strouse and Ethelyn Gibson. Nothing at all in any sources. Tried to find an obit for Billy West and no go on that either. Found this which says she made the first sound serial. Looking for a non-snippet view so I could backtrack to the source (footnote 22) I found this link, but can't get to the notes or 386. I found an alternate copy of that source here, but it requires a program called DJVU to open the formatting. I have no clue what that is. According to this she produced that sound serial for Gibson Productions. This may have a bio on her. Perhaps research exchange or clicking on one of the "ask a librarian" links here might get you pages 98 and 99. Gotta go. My mom is enroute to the ER. SusunW (talk) 16:17, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Geez, I don't know what's going on, but I hope everyone ends up okay. You didn't have to do all that while dealing with personal crises, Susan. Thank you for it, but still. SilverserenC 16:21, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Silver seren. I thought it might relax me a bit and diffuse the stress to focus on research. Just as I finished typing the stuff I found they messaged that she was enroute, so it obviously escalated. Still no clue what's going on, but I kinda doubt I'll be back until we get answers. SusunW (talk) 17:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I hope everything goes alright, SusunW. Thanks for the research help - I hope it helped diffuse some stress, as you said. But either way, I'm thinking about you and your mom and wishing for the best. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Silver seren and Whisperjanes: Thanks. Been a wild several days, but she seems on the upswing finally. Thank you so much for your thoughts. May you both enjoy your holiday season. SusunW (talk) 14:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- I hope everything goes alright, SusunW. Thanks for the research help - I hope it helped diffuse some stress, as you said. But either way, I'm thinking about you and your mom and wishing for the best. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Silver seren. I thought it might relax me a bit and diffuse the stress to focus on research. Just as I finished typing the stuff I found they messaged that she was enroute, so it obviously escalated. Still no clue what's going on, but I kinda doubt I'll be back until we get answers. SusunW (talk) 17:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Geez, I don't know what's going on, but I hope everyone ends up okay. You didn't have to do all that while dealing with personal crises, Susan. Thank you for it, but still. SilverserenC 16:21, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, this one is really hard. I tried to see if I could make any connections between Horatio/Robert/Ruben Strouse and Ethelyn Gibson. Nothing at all in any sources. Tried to find an obit for Billy West and no go on that either. Found this which says she made the first sound serial. Looking for a non-snippet view so I could backtrack to the source (footnote 22) I found this link, but can't get to the notes or 386. I found an alternate copy of that source here, but it requires a program called DJVU to open the formatting. I have no clue what that is. According to this she produced that sound serial for Gibson Productions. This may have a bio on her. Perhaps research exchange or clicking on one of the "ask a librarian" links here might get you pages 98 and 99. Gotta go. My mom is enroute to the ER. SusunW (talk) 16:17, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Silver seren and Whisperjanes:, sorry, had an entire day of family emergencies. Since we are far flung across the globe, it was a lot to deal with. But, thank goodness for technology. I'll look around and see if I find anything more than Whisperjanes, but her research looks pretty thorough. SusunW (talk) 13:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think the article looks great. Thanks so much, Silver seren, for adding all that content. @FloridaArmy: I do wonder about the family name "Strouse", as well as the date of death - I can't find an Ethelyn (or Ethel) Strouse in Ancestry.com or FamilySearch records that was born in Ohio in 1897. There are a couple Ethel Gibson's born that year in Ohio, but none that seem related to a "Strouse" name (and no way to tell if any are her). I believe the 1897 Ohio birth is correct, since a 1920 census that includes her and her husband says she was born in Ohio, and specified her age as 23 (and there was at least one newspaper article that referred to her as 14 in 1911[1]). Since I can't find it in other sources, I feel like it's likely that the "Strouse" name originated from a marriage index between a "Roy Weisberg" and an "Ethelyn Strouse" on January 22, 1916, from Cook County, Illinois. It's possible they were married there, since Chicago is where Weisberg/West was from in the U.S. However, unless we can verify that that was the date of their marriage, I think it's better not to include the name Strouse - I'm just not sure if that's the same Ethelyn or not. Other than that, the lordheath website mentioned the date of 1972 death was incorrectly written in sources. I know this book mentions that death date, but I'm not super sure where the date originally came from. So if it isn't widely printed or there aren't other sources other than that one, I might err on the side of caution with that too and remove it from the article. But I think that date could go either way - so, thoughts? - Whisperjanes (talk) 06:19, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: There's a list of sources at the bottom of that article, so I'd just use those instead. It looks like the family stuff came from the FamilySearch website, which contains census information. Which is reliable, yes. I'd just cite it directly rather than this other person's personal site. Hmm, @SusunW:, think you could help with this one too? SilverserenC 02:33, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! In the Lord Heath source her original family bame is said to be Strouse. And he parents and siblings are identified. I'm not sure how reliable that source is considered but it seems legit. Can we (ie. you) confirm? FloridaArmy (talk) 02:28, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
DYK for The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes
On 17 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes discusses the history of transgender man Ewan Forbes and his 1968 legal case to inherit his family's baronetcy that was silenced from public records? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Help add info and ref. Thanks you. Ciclye (talk) 07:28, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- It seems like a rather good article already, @Ciclye:, what exactly do you think needs to be improved? SilverserenC 07:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Add cite for section 'Achievements'. Ciclye (talk) 07:31, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
What do the archives tell us?
Greetings Silver seren. Any chance you could peek into the past for Draft:Fanny Belle DeKnight and Draft:Susie Sutton? Both seem to have not so many theater and film credits but they span several years and were in significant productions. Open to your thoughts. I was thinking I might have to merge one or both. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:55, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- I can't find anything of note on Fanny, @FloridaArmy:, but there seems to be plenty on Susie, so I think I'll be actively adding that to the draft over time like we've done with past articles. SilverserenC 21:24, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello Silver
Hello to you too @Missvain, Sorry for the late response, I’ve been down with Malaria, in the last five days, it was quite serious, I couldn’t move or eat in five days just got better today, coming from here which indicated that the same editor created all the articles, this led to the mass nomination I did here, now I think we are forgetting a basic principle for bundle nominating, which is, we bundle nominate when dealing with article spamming/spam articles which the aforementioned report clearly indicated. I’m still recovering from my ailment but I’m well enough to answer any questions you may have for me. Celestina007 (talk) 16:45, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Furthermore Silver, I’m unhappy you insinuated a proper before wasn’t done, it was, and none of the sources used rose to in-depth significant coverage in secondary reliable sources independent of them thus they all did not meet GNG nor ENT for the model, I’m unhappy you made such assertion which in-fact is incorrect. Celestina007 (talk) 17:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007 - Sorry you have been so sick, I hope you are on the mend, especially given the holiday season! Since I commented on it as a participant (as opposed to a reviewer) I'll leave it to the closing admin to decide what the best process is for them. Regardless of who the article creator is (even if they are banned, sometimes they create articles for notable subjects whether we like it or not), I prefer to review most articles individually. It's also a less confusing process for reviewers (like me). Missvain (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Missvain, thanks Missvain, Gosh!! Malaria is actually a terrible ailment I appreciate your sympathy, I understand your concerns, mass nominations are quite daunting, you are correct, but i checked the articles and they all reeked of UPE and were using the same “Reference trickery” in all the articles where they cleverly use good Nigerian sources but almost all the reliable sources are “unreliable pieces” in almost all the articles. I deemed it bad faith editing & an attempt to game the system, but all the same Missvain, I indeed hear & understand you when you say individual nominations are easier to follow. Celestina007 (talk) 17:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007 - Sorry you have been so sick, I hope you are on the mend, especially given the holiday season! Since I commented on it as a participant (as opposed to a reviewer) I'll leave it to the closing admin to decide what the best process is for them. Regardless of who the article creator is (even if they are banned, sometimes they create articles for notable subjects whether we like it or not), I prefer to review most articles individually. It's also a less confusing process for reviewers (like me). Missvain (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Furthermore Silver, I’m unhappy you insinuated a proper before wasn’t done, it was, and none of the sources used rose to in-depth significant coverage in secondary reliable sources independent of them thus they all did not meet GNG nor ENT for the model, I’m unhappy you made such assertion which in-fact is incorrect. Celestina007 (talk) 17:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Disagree you may, Call it "Bullshit" you may not
Please do not forget to be polite at all times. The creating editor is a Sockpuppet of a blocked editor. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)