Talk:Leonhard Euler

Inaccurate reference

In Leonhard Euler#Personal philosophy and religious beliefs is mentioned that Euler also labelled Wolff's ideas as "heathen and atheistic", with reference to Calinger 1996, pp. 153–154. However, in the mentioned article we read, instead, that Euler knew well that pietists and conservative theologians had labelled Wolff’s rational, mathematical philosophy as ‘‘heathen and atheistic’’ from the 1720s, and not that it was not Euler himself who labelled thus Wolff's ideas. I propose this reference to be removed or corrected. (The other one is accurate.) AresPi (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

@David_Eppstein Doing the talk page thing, lest I draw cries of "Edit War"! The summary for your recent revert reads:

"They are collected in X" means that they can all be found as a collection in X". "They are being collected in X" means that at the present time someone is putting together a collection of them. The first is true; the second is false.

However, the Opera Omnia Leonhard Euler is not yet complete (at least as of September 2022, according to the article). Hence, the sentence in question ending in "will consist of 81 quarto volumes" (emphasis added). So the latter is true (as someone is ostensibly still, at this present time, putting together the collection), and the former is false (until the collection is complete).

That is, unless the final publication (Volume IVA/9) has been released since September 2022. If it has been, you should update the end of the sentence and also the article for the Opera Omnia itself, rather than reverting the change.

Unless you have further objections, I'll reinstate @Toddcs's edit after some arbitrary wait. Reil (talk) 04:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok, with this justification, I think it's ok to reinstate the edit. But Toddcs's claim that the original was ungrammatical was incorrect. It is grammatical, it just means something different. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@david_eppstein Thank you for all that, especially for analyzing my change itself, in order to understand my intent, which you did perfectly.

When I labeled my change as a grammar fix, I was giving the original writer the benefit of the doubt, that they knew the difference between "are collected" and "are being collected," but had only taken a shortcut in expressing it.

Thanks again for analyzing my change, instead of simply relying on its annotation alone. And for essentially concurring, it seems, in my underlying observation. Toddcs (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Hollow Earth

How is his most important work not mentioned here??? 79.106.203.40 (talk) 09:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

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Leonhard Euler (1707–1783) was a Swiss mathematician and physicist. He developed important concepts and proved mathematical theorems in fields as diverse as calculus, number theory and topology. Euler introduced much of the modern mathematical terminology and notation, particularly for mathematical analysis, such as the notion of a mathematical function. He is also renowned for his work in mechanics, optics and astronomy. Euler is considered to be the preeminent mathematician of the 18th century and one of the greatest of all time. According to Guinness World Records, he is also the most prolific; his collected works fill 60 to 80 quarto volumes. Euler was featured on the sixth series of the Swiss ten-franc banknote and on numerous Swiss, German and Russian stamps. The asteroid 2002 Euler was named in his honor. This portrait of Euler was created by the Swiss painter Jakob Emanuel Handmann in 1753 and is now in the collection of the Kunstmuseum Basel.

Painting credit: Jakob Emanuel Handmann; restored by Bammesk

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Swiss-Russian-Prussian

I believe he should be denoted as Swiss-Russian-Prussian because for the majority of his life, he worked in the Russian Empire and the Kingdom of Prussia? 2001:760:2C00:1725:0:0:0:1D (talk) 06:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Did anyone at any point ever consider him a Russian or Prussian national? Remsense ‥ 论 06:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

I am also doubtful that there are sources that refer to him as "Swiss-Russian-Prussian". Mellk (talk) 06:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

There definitely are. Just for example: "Swiss-Russian", "Swiss-German". --2001:760:2C00:1725:0:0:0:1D (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

I see two results that use "Swiss-Russian-Prussian". How many simply say "Swiss"? Mellk (talk) 07:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Comparatively few, and the majority of those merely "Swiss–Russian". I don't think it would be representative if you consider how many sources use only "Swiss". Remsense ‥ 论 07:19, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Pronunciation guides

In 1296728987 I reverted user:Absolutiva's removal of Swiss German and German pronunciation to a footnote, but I'm starting a discussion about it here, in case some other editors agree that these should be hidden or removed. Putting them in a footnote seems fairly useless, as I doubt anyone will ever see them there. But it's also a fair point that three pronunciation guides in a row may be distracting for readers. –jacobolus (t) 22:08, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

As a general rule I prefer pronunciation guides to be in footnotes per MOS:LEADCLUTTER. But Euler's name pronunciation is surprising to many English speakers, so I think having a single pronunciation visible in the lead is ok. Three is too many. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

There was just English & German for a few years; Swiss German was added like a year ago. But apparently all three were included in 2017. I didn't do a deep investigation into exactly when various versions arose, who added these pronunciations, or whether there was past discussion. –jacobolus (t) 22:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

The MOS page suggests |pronunciation= or |native_name= parameters of the infobox, which might be better than a footnote. Alternately we could leave English for "Euler" and Swiss Standard German for "Leonhard Euler", and skip the German pronunciation. –jacobolus (t) 22:17, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Had no clue lead clutter and accessibility deficiencies was being discussed. We should simply follow the multiple protocols on this MOS:FIRSTBIO, MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE, MOS:LEADCLUTTER. Moxy🍁 02:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I tried previewing a version with pronunciation in the infobox, but that looked even worse I think. I moved the Swiss Standard German and German pronunciations into the same footnote with the comment about the naïve English pronunciation being considered incorrect, since decluttering the lead seems to be the preference here. Does that look okay? Is there anyone who still wants to argue for keeping German pronunciation more visible? –jacobolus (t) 02:50, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I also reverted the removal of the Julian death date from the infobox. Do people have any preference about whether Julian dates should be included for people who died in places which still used a Julian calendar? I don't have any particularly strong feeling about it, but I think it's worth discussing rather than just removing outright. The MOS says "Dates after 4 October 1582 in a place where the Julian calendar was observed should be given in the Julian calendar." –jacobolus (t) 22:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Does anyone have thoughts about the Julian death date in the infobox? –jacobolus (t) 02:52, 24 June 2025 (UTC)