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Q1: Is the article biased against conspiracy theories?

A1: Wikipedia is a mainstream encyclopedia so this article presents the accepted version of the events according to reliable sources. Although reliable sources have repeatedly reported on conspiracy theories, reporting on conspiracy theories is not the same thing as advocating conspiracy theories or accepting them as fact. The most recent discussion that resulted in the current consensus took place on this talk page in December 2011. If you disagree with the current status, you are welcome to bring your concerns to the article talk page. Please read the previous discussions on this talk page and try to explain how your viewpoint provides new arguments or information that may lead to a change in consensus. Please be sure to be polite and support your views with citations from reliable sources.

Q2: Should the article use the word "terrorist" (and related words)?

A2: Wikipedia:Words to watch states that "there are no forbidden words or expressions on Wikipedia". That being said, "terrorism" is a word that requires extra attention when used in Wikipedia. The consensus, after several lengthy discussions, is that it is appropriate to use the term in a limited fashion to describe the attacks and the executors of these attacks. The contributors have arrived at this conclusion after looking at the overwhelming majority of reliable sources that use this term as well as the United Nations' own condemnation of the attacks.[1]

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January 19, 2004	Refreshing brilliant prose	Kept
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August 20, 2008	Good article reassessment	Kept
June 19, 2010	Good article reassessment	Delisted
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July 25, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
August 23, 2011	Peer review	Reviewed
August 30, 2011	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
September 25, 2011	Good article reassessment	Delisted
May 24, 2013	Good article nominee	Not listed
July 13, 2015	Good article nominee	Listed
October 27, 2018	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
News items involving this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on September 11, 2001, and September 11, 2002.
Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 11, 2003, September 11, 2004, September 11, 2005, September 11, 2006, September 11, 2009, September 11, 2012, September 11, 2013, September 11, 2017, September 11, 2018, September 11, 2020, September 11, 2023, and September 11, 2024.
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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Noam Cohen (11 September 2011). "On Wikipedia, Echoes of 9/11 'Edit Wars'". The New York Times.
Brian Keegan (November 17, 2020). "How 9/11 Shaped Wikipedia". Slate (magazine). Retrieved September 9, 2021.
Stephen Harrison (September 8, 2021). "How Wikipedia Grew Up With the War on Terror". Slate (magazine). Retrieved September 9, 2021.
Alex Pasternack (September 11, 2021). "How 9/11 turned a new site called Wikipedia into history's crowdsourced front page". Fast Company. Retrieved September 13, 2021.

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RM, September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Moved, 17 January 2004, Discussion
RM, September 11, 2001 attacks → September 11, 2001, attacks, Not moved, 21 October 2004, Discussion
RM, September 11, 2001 attacks → September 11 attacks, Moved, 20 August 2008, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Not moved, 13 October 2010, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → 9/11, Not moved, 31 March 2014, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → September 11 terrorist attacks, Not moved, 13 February 2021, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → September 11th attacks, Not moved, 14 February 2021, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Procedural close, 23 February 2021, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → 9/11, Not moved, 26 January 2024, Discussion
RM, September 11 attacks → September 11 terrorist attacks, Not moved, 9 February 2024, discussion.

The contents of World Trade Center/Plane crash was merged into September 11 attacks on 11 September 2001. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

The contents of Slogans and terms derived from the September 11 attacks was merged into September 11 attacks on 22 October 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Section sizes

Section size for September 11 attacks (45 sections)
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(Top)	19,235	19,235
Background	5,367	54,448
Osama bin Laden	7,906	7,906
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other al-Qaeda members	4,601	4,601
Motives	20,233	20,233
Planning	8,836	8,836
Prior intelligence	7,505	7,505
Attacks	4,771	76,539
Crashes	28,099	28,099
Casualties	30,997	30,997
Damage	9,932	9,932
Rescue efforts	2,740	2,740
Reactions	3,398	57,842
Immediate response	8,746	8,746
Domestic reactions	7,816	17,817
Hate crimes	5,471	5,471
Discrimination and racial profiling	1,846	1,846
Muslim American response	1,681	1,681
Interfaith efforts	1,003	1,003
International reactions	17,734	17,734
Military operations	10,147	10,147
Aftermath	88	44,855
Health issues	9,941	9,941
Economic	7,128	7,128
Effects in Afghanistan	7,027	7,027
Cultural influence	4,157	4,157
Government policies towards terrorism	9,753	9,753
Legal proceedings	6,761	6,761
Investigations	21	32,169
FBI	9,425	9,425
CIA	2,195	2,195
Congressional inquiry	6,247	6,247
9/11 Commission	4,178	4,178
National Institute of Standards and Technology	6,106	6,106
Alleged Saudi government role	3,997	3,997
Rebuilding and memorials	32	19,801
Reconstruction	8,324	8,324
Memorials	11,445	11,445
See also	1,238	1,238
References	17	76
Notes	28	28
Citations	31	31
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Further reading	2,890	2,890
External links	5,137	5,137
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Since everyone calls it 9/11, why don't we call it that or "9/11 attacks" 107.201.182.97 (talk) 18:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because in some places that could be read as 9th of November. Slatersteven (talk) 18:40, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Outside the US, 9/11 would be read as November 9th. Most news sources also refer to the event using "September 11th" and very rarely 9/11. It makes complete sense the Wikipedia article would, therefore, read "September 11". Butterscotch5 (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2601:602:D285:9540:54CA:77F1:A142:A8F4 (talk) 07:18, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I want to add something that was incorrect.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 15:31, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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CheeseGuy223 (talk) 07:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I need to fix something there was something incorrect.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Czello ^(music) 07:23, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help me

I taught I can add a new thing to Wikipedia but it’s wrong place oh what the hell Adf636 (talk) 02:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove the word "Islamist" from the opening paragraph. Thank you in advance. 92.40.195.21 (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Remsense ‥ 论 22:12, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add additional newfound information.

Consensus to include a YouTube video blaming Israel for 9/11 will not be reached. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

New information suggests Israel was behind the attacks. This is NOT a conspiracy theory. This is facts. A video explains it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aic8E6Oypuk CentralWikiCommander (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube is not an RS. Slatersteven (talk) 21:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube is a reliable source. The streaming platform doesn't matter when seeing if it's a reliable source or not, it's the video. The video I linked is a journalist covering injustices in the Muslim world for more then 10+ years. Watch the video first, then reply back with your concerns. CentralWikiCommander (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NO it's not here. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:37, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

??? CentralWikiCommander (talk) 21:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a RS here on Wikipedia for this claim. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube is not a Reliable Source Destinyokhiria (talk) 21:39, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who said YouTube is not a reliable source? Why does the type of streaming platform matter, its the video that matters. CentralWikiCommander (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Scroll to the bottom of this Page Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources Destinyokhiria (talk) 21:46, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The channel is a verifiable source, according to the page you linked me too. therefore, the video should be put for review if it can be used as evidence to add on to this page. CentralWikiCommander (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube is not a reliable source! Plus, it makes no damn sense either. Why the hell would Israel want to attack us? They're our ally, and their issue is with Palestine, not the greater Arab world. If they've wanted to do so according to your logic, don't you think they would've done it since October 7 of 2023? Enough of these conspiracy theory nonsense, especially concerning Israel. Butterscotch5 (talk) 13:48, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, Youtube is not a verifiable source, but your talking in a pro-Israel way. You are supposed to remain un-biased.. The channel I linked is a VERIFIED channel, a journalist with a huge reputation for stating only facts. And last I checked, it is allowed to link these channels for review. I can also tell you why Israel wanted to attack us, but that would take too long, Just search up "The 5 dancing Israelies". It'll explain everything. CentralWikiCommander (talk) 15:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is, in fact, a conspiracy theory. — Czello ^(music) 15:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was, In fact, a conspiracy theory, however the video a linked, from a VERIFIED channel, a journalist, explains very clearly with Israel and ties to the 9/11 attacks. CentralWikiCommander (talk) 15:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think, after the video I sent, clearly explains how Israel has ties to 9/11, should be official, and added into the Wiki page on 9/11 CentralWikiCommander (talk) 16:22, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a YouTube video put out by a person whose channel description says A news media channel devoted to exposing and countering injustices in the Muslim world? Hard pass. This will not be added and I'm closing this section. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.