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Nekkonda

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Article is little more than a basic definition of the term. No history or anything. Gommeh 🎮 17:20, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2025 Pekalongan flood and landslide

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:SIGCOV and WP:LASTING: "Events that have a noted and sourced permanent effect of historical significance are likely to be notable. This includes, for example, natural disasters that result in widespread destruction, since they lead to rebuilding ..." Effects here included a 14-day disaster emergency, eleven districts that were affected, buildings that were destroyed, bridges that were swept away, 25 deaths, 13 injured, 2 or 3 people who disappeared (often also dead). gidonb (talk) 03:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not the subject of sustained significant secondary coverage. Articles like this should not be created unless the event is written about retrospectively. Wikipedia is not a repository of miscellaneous news stories. Falls far below the standard set at WP:LASTING. Note that quantities associated with a subject are not factored into AfD. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, quantities associated with a subject are not factored into AfD. Yet, that is stating the irrelevant. The relevant information is that, like the above, WP:EFFECTs are factored into AfDs so your argument was already refuted before it was written! gidonb (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bulletin of the Irish Biogeographical Society

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Upon review, no reliable sources could be found that are independent of the source and contain relevant factual information. Subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Nixleovel (talk) 21:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no WP:SIGCOV. Plus, the society itself doesn't even have an article. GoldRomean (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Riverview Park, Berks County, Pennsylvania

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Page was originally created in 2010 and has had only minor changes since then. It's never contained any references as far I can tell (NB: I'm still a newbie at reading the changelogs, so I could've missed one). It's been marked as "unreferenced" since 2019 without any references getting added. There's some decent text in the article, but I couldn't find any sources for the information, and the page is a near-orphan, only linked to by one other article (well, four total, but three are a list of places, a talk page, and a user page). I'd be happy for it to stick around if anyone can verify the info, but the user who generated the main text of the page doesn't exist anymore, so I don't know who'd be able to supply references. Local Internet User (talk) 01:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nominator ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 00:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Muhlenberg Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. Djflem (talk) 13:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ring Hill, Maine

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Found during WP:JUN25; taking to AFD rather than PROD as I am not familiar with the standard geographic place sources for Maine. Unsourced since creation in 2008 and tagged as such since 2017. There is search noise from a hiking trail in a nature park in Greenwood, Maine and from the Ring Hill Airport but as best as I can tell the Ring Hill in Litchfield was originally a stock farm on a literal hill, which has since given its name to a small housing development; this doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:GEOLAND unless I'm really missing something. Hog Farm _Talk 20:24, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Older topo maps show only the geographic feature of Ring Hill on the east side of Pleasant Pond, in Sagadahoc County, and villages (at least houses too dense for individual mapping) at Litchfield Plains and Litchfield Corners. It's mentioned in the minutes of the Litchfield town meeting for April 27, 2020 "Locations below Ring Hill on the Plains and Thorofare Roads and the south east corner on Dead River Road have [cellphone service] issues" but that doesn't indicate to me that it's a populated place per se. The cemetery marked in the vicinity on current topos appears to be the Robinson Cemetery, associated with a family rather than a church. Dig as I will, I don't find evidence that this was a meaningful populated place. Choess (talk) 18:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - non-notable stock farm. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor, Indiana

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Aerials show a grain elevator by the tracks, and there are the ruins of what appears to have been a relatively late station building, but until some houses and a power substation were built in the area there's nothing much else. The juxtaposition with post office comes from our old unreliable friend the 1876 state atlas, whcih I would question. I don't see evidence this was a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 12:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per WP:NOTDIRECTORY Nayyn (talk) 23:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Octagon, Indiana

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As far as I can tell, this was nothing more than a long-lived 4th class post office. I find no evidence for a town here; several people in a vounty history are listed as "from" here, but they are all described as farmers. Mangoe (talk) 01:09, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Just added some material on the history of this crossroad, from local newspapers. It's not much, but the place was documented as having businesses, residences, and a Masonic Lodge at one time. With three new sources (all from the same newspaper, but spanning 50 years) I think this just squeaks through WP:NPLACE. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sialkot Dagger

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I am unable to find reliable sources for this term. It is possible that this area is referred to by a different term for which there are sources. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:19, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Portuguese wiki does seem to show that it is called the Akhnoor Dagger or Chicken's Neck. No comment on notability at this time. SportingFlyer T·C 07:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and move to "Akhnoor Dagger" or return the article to "Chicken's Neck (Pakistan)", its title until an undiscussed move yesterday. While the name "Sialkot Dagger" is unreferenced, the place itself is notable as Akhnoor Dagger or Chicken's Neck. I have added some references to the article. — AjaxSmack 15:49, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding these references. I hadn't given any preference in my nomination statement, but I'm now suggesting that Move to "Akhnoor Dagger" seems to be the best option. I would argue that the term "Sialkot Dagger" doesn't have any reliable references for it and should be deleted once it becomes a redirect, but that might be an argument to be made at RFD later. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

North Crane, Indiana

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A grain loading station on an now-abandoned Big Four line; the old elevator is indeed still there along with a concrete silo and the ruins of the old station buildings, but going back there's never anything other than these structures and the Quonset huts just to the south, and the couple of surrounding farms. GHits get gazetteers and rail directories and a book confirming that this was a station, but nothing descriptive of this as a town or for that matter anything else. Mangoe (talk) 20:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Apart from the usual WP mirrors, the only source I can find is a soil survey report; hardly enough to pass WP:GEOLAND. But I did find a "website" that said "If you are interested in getting a good time in the gay village of your location you can find a gay North Crane (Tippecanoe County, Indiana), do not miss the finest clubs." Which is why all these no-effort, no-information stubs should be deleted; they are polluting the internet with dreck that bots and AI pick up, vomiting out nonverifiable, nonexistent, valueless garbage. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:38, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Meadowbrook, Indiana

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An older suburban development of Lafayette; not notable. Mangoe (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non-notable, just a normal suburban development. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 06:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birmingham, Tippecanoe County, Indiana

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Another back-entry into GNIS from our old friend the 1876 historical atlas of the state, the spot is at the moment completely forested and shows nothing on any topo. GHits were all irrelevant juxtapositions, even those in Lippicott's. No idea what this might have been but it's unverifiable. Mangoe (talk) 00:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Come on, this one doesn't even appear on USGS topo maps! Unverifiable garbage, clearly made by someone who didn't know or care what they were saying. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to mostly lay this one on the GNIS compilers, though our writer really should have at least looked at the map before creating this. But the general rule across all states thus far has been that places entered into GNIS from sources other than topos have not been otherwise verifiable. And this particular map has proven particularly bad. Mangoe (talk) 11:34, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I was able to turn up some newspaper hits from March 1837 where someone was advertising for sale of land plots at that time; there was a following notice from June 1837 that the sale of land plots had been postponed. This does not appear to have ever developed into an actual community. Hog Farm _Talk 23:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eastwich, Indiana

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First off, the correct name is "Eastwitch". Second, it is bltantly a suburban development,originally on the edge of Lafayette, which has since been absorbed by the city. There's no sign it was ever a town unto itself. Mangoe (talk) 03:19, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no proof of previous town before suburban development. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crumb Corner, Indiana

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Here is an example of how WP:GEOLAND puts us in a bind. Ultimately, the only source here is the topos, with some ratification from aerial photography. And what they show is that back seventy years or so, there was a cluster of buildings at an intersection, with the label "Crumb Corner". Urbanization crept up to it and then around it, but the original spot was completely erased in favor of a limited access interchange, and the label disappeared. Then, as typical in the 2013 maps, it was apparently back-added from GNIS. That's what the maps show, but I cannot verify this any other way. All of the even vaguely relevant GHits are gazetteers. clickbait, or routine "list all the placenames" stuff. I can find nothing that says anything about this specific spot that didn't come off those maps. Is this spot still called "Crumb Corner"? Are people even aware of this spot if they don't look at some map?I can't tell. I'm having a great deal of trouble justifying an article on a place where the only way we can tell the potential truth about a place— that is was wiped out by highway construction— is through the interpretation of maps and aerials. Mangoe (talk) 03:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A freeway interchange is not a community...the "is" in the first sentence of the article is a lie. If someone were to rewrite the article about a historical place by this name, then that's fine, but then we'd need more information than we could get from old maps. Fails WP:GEOLAND and WP:OR, and a perfect example of how transcribing databases into articles leads to misinformation. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ash Grove, Indiana

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I'm having some trouble with this one. It was the location of a nasty 1947 head-on train collision when on train overran the siding here, and indeed everything substantial I can find out about it is rail-related. There was a grain elevator here, supplemented by a pair of concrete silos which are still there, and on the north side of the road there was a coop with its bins, but the whole site has an air of rail spot no longer related to the rails. This page discussing it as a Monon station claims the latter was established in 1915, which is almost certainly wrong, based on the post office date; I have to think the earlier station was torn down. At any rate I'm having no luck finding evidence of this as a town as opposed to a rail loading point. Mangoe (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - as mentioned, only a railpoint. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 07:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:15, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Briar Ridge

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No claim of notability for a gated community, which otherwise wouldn't be notable. Location given is for a country club of the same name, which likewise would need some justification for its notability. Mangoe (talk) 19:34, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This 2008 vintage article never had any cites except to the country club website, and I can't find any to demonstrate notability. A prod in 2009 was rejected, and a second prod in 2017 was improper due to the first prod.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 21:15, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:COOKIECUTTER housing development. Nothing suggests notability. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 13:40, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - just a normal suburban development. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non-notable gated community. Lacks what is needed to pass even GNG. Iljhgtn (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bloomer, Indiana

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A rail spot not mentioned in the county history someone rustled up. GHits tended to be for surnames or gazetteers. Mangoe (talk) 19:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete From USGS topos [1], this was obviously a rail siding/freight loading point that disappeared sometime between 1953 and 1967. Just a crossing today, not a community. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:59, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Westfield, St. Joseph County, Indiana

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Another South Bend suburban development about which I get nothing except a plat that looks like, well, a suburban development. Mangoe (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/Redirect To Warren Township, St. Joseph County, Indiana #Geography where it is mentioned at target (How do I make it more specific? Could someone change it for me to link to and Unincorporated towns, please feel free to edit the target for me, I don't know where the thing is I type to put in) per WP:CHEAP and WP:ATD. Servite et contribuere (talk) 00:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's no good reason to do this sort of redirect. Mangoe (talk) 18:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no coverage that I could find except for the Census, which is not enough to meet WP:NGEO. GoldRomean (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom and WP:NOTDIRECTORY Nayyn (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Crimmins Island

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Page has only had a single ref for many years; this is broken and doesn't appear to be a RS anyway. I see single line references in a couple of gazetteers and not much else. I'm not seeing significant coverage. JMWt (talk) 09:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per WP:INDISCRIMINATE / WP:NOTDIRECTORY Nayyn (talk) 22:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Belgian provinces by life expectancy

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WP:NOTDATABASE，the article looks like data tables? 日期20220626 (talk) 00:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The page really has a weak point that it contains little description. But that means that the description should be added. Deletion of the whole atricle with true and virified statistics for the topic, designed in convenient form, instead of adding the description is not a good strategy.

Possible solution: mark the page as a stub. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Possible solution: blow it up and start over again. Bearian (talk) 22:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there is a person who will start it over again. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question - we have list articles for a reason. Does this article meet WP:NLIST? --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:02, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I added a preamble to the article. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 18:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Robertson Island (West Virginia)

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Tagged as unsourced since 2021; found in WP:JUN25 cleanup. I can find no substantial coverage of this island; all of what I'm turning up is for other islands of similar names, particularly Robertson Island in Antarctica. This is a fairly small bar island with no exceptional characteristics that I can find. I've considered the possibility of a merge to Tygart Valley River but I don't see how giving this coverage over other islands would be due weight for the river's article. There is List of islands of West Virginia which has unclear inclusion criteria but appears to only be listing notable islands so I do not believe that a merger to there would be due weight either. WP:NATFEAT suggests this should be discussed at Tygart Valley River but I have strong concerns that this would be undue detail there, especially without a more general discussion of islands in the river. Hog Farm _Talk 02:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No source, no article...and there is nothing here to merge. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 10:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Tygart Valley River. The island is shown and labeled on United States Geological Survey maps from 1958 onward (Fairmont West quadrangle), with its present shape, and two structures are visible in 1958, 1976, and 1997 (I cannot tell if they are on the 2016 photographic map, which is blurry; they are not shown on the map finder tool, which is meant to be current). This is at least confirmation of a permanent or semi-permanent geographic feature with a recognized name, if not necessarily a populated place. I was hoping to see some mention of it in Hardesty's, but FamilySearch has Marion County online (the 1976 reprint, combined with other counties), and I did not see it mentioned under general county information, Union or Grant districts, or anyone named Robertson in the biographical listings (it's possible that it's mentioned under the name of someone else connected with it). However, I think that the fact that it's mapped and seems to be a permanent feature with a recognized name makes it sufficiently documented to be mentioned in an article about the river. There are other islands also visible and labeled on these maps, which should probably be included if they are not already. P Aculeius (talk) 11:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuquanying

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Non-notable intersection. In attempting to source this article, I was unable to find any valid sources about this particular intersection, much less anything that would contribute to notability. Garsh (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. It seems odd to me that the article is focused on an intersection. Isn't Yuquanying a major road, not just an intersection? (There seem to be many articles about the road and building complexes on the road via Google News.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no evidence of notability and I couldn't find sources to pass WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 09:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no indication of notability. Jeepday (talk) 11:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Yuquanying Subdistrict. The Chinese name here is 玉泉营, which seems to refer to a variety of topics in that area, but I think all can be covered at the main subdistrict article. That article could be expanded with this source, which covers the history of the area in depth, though its reliability could be debated [2]. Toadspike [Talk] 11:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Sources have been added, focus has been expanded to mention Yuquanying's 800 years of history as one of the 18 floricultural villages of the Fengtai district of Beijing before becoming the site of a major highway intersection and overpass. (OK I'm still in the process of untangling how best to cite and/or edit that section, which could still take several days as I try to work on other things.) Sincerely appreciate the pointer to the administrative subdistrict page provided by Toadspike (not to mention their spirit of investigation which is what makes these geography AfD puzzles interesting), but the modern administrative subdistrict article can remain separate from the Yuquanying article about the history of the village since the Jin dynasty. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have mixed feelings about this – I considered expanding this article, but decided that Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article about a populated place, is more suitable for this information. I don't mean to be rude, but you have effectively hijacked this article and changed its topic to one that we already cover elsewhere. Toadspike [Talk] 09:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The 800-year history of the village of Yuquanying, where there is now also a highway overpass, is not covered at all in the current article about Yuquanying Subdistrict, which focuses on an administrative region established in 2021. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:18, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can only have one topic claiming notablity per GEOLAND on this, and here it should be the legally-recognized subdistrict. Of the three sources you link, the first is about the subdistrict, the second lists Yuquanying among other subdistricts like Majiapu Subdistrict and some places that don't seem to have legal recognition, and the third is a mathematical analysis of traffic at the intersection that doesn't actually tell us anything about the intersection. I am not convinced this shows the need for a split from the main subdistrict article. Toadspike [Talk] 10:42, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, we can still keep looking for more sources; those were just indicative and as I said, it's still a work in progress. The first source actually leads with the modern Yuquanying subdistrict but the third paragraph is about the historical village of Yuquanying and its 800-year history as a flower town. The second source is interesting because it references the historical (centuries-old) concept of the 18 villages of Fengtai district, which is discussed elsewhere in books and suggests a fruitful line of research, and also provides more context about the floricultural history of the region. (Actually not sure what to do with "Beijing Yuquanying highway" in the third source; not even sure if it's actually about the actual intersection or overpass. Is it? Very unclear from looking at the article.) Anyway Wikipedia is full of multiple articles about the same geographic location. We could easily keep splitting this article into sub-topics and at minimum, Yuquanying would have to be retained as a disambiguation page. (And yes, you are correct: it is more polite to assume good faith per WP:AGF.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge: per Toadspike, I don't see a convincing argument for keeping both Yuquanying Subdistrict and Yuquanying, the history part of this article, which I guess was added post-nom, can be put in the subdistrict article and this can redirect there. Moritoriko (talk) 09:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not even clear that the administrative region is geographically in the same place as the old village! In fact, it subsumes several old neighbouring villages, possibly. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chinese geography and naming is a bit outside my wheelhouse, but would you say it is likely that the name of the subdistrict was chosen because of the old village? Doing further research on the "18 villages of Fengtai" is not showing me much of anything either, perhaps that information should be put in that article instead. Moritoriko (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly the kind of assumption that leads to misinformation on Wikipedia, particularly with regard to geographical history. Every claim made on Wikipedia should be verifiable per WP:V. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is why I am asking you if this is true, and doing it in the AfD instead of putting it in the article. I'm not going to put unverified information out there >( Moritoriko (talk) 05:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. At minimum, this discussion could be closed as no consensus and if other editors seriously want to pursue a merge discussion, they can start one, though I remain unconvinced from the arguments made above that the now significantly expanded and referenced Yuquanying (covering the 800-year history of Yuquanying village and the surrounding area through the early 21st century) should be merged into the Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article focused on the governance and boundaries of a modern administrative region that was created in 2021. Also, WP:HEY. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Going through the sources added since my last comment here:
- [3] mentions Yuquanying market once, among a list of others. Not SIGCOV.
- [4] mentions that a segment of the Beijing–Kaifeng highway starts at the Yuquanying interchange. Not sigcov.
- [5] is about the local government of Yuquanying Subdistrict, which already has its own article.
- [6] Two photos of Yuquanying, with captions that tell us nothing about the place. Not sigcov.
- [7] mentions Yuquanying Flower Market among a list of others, alongside its opening hours. This is not sigcov; often such coverage promoting businesses/events is also not considered independent.
- [8] is a passing mention, not sigcov, though it does provide the interesting factoid that the Yuquanying Flower Market was "[Beijing's] largest potted flower wholesale market" at the time (in 2003).
- [9] is a government report on a fire at a business (玉泉营环岛家具城, 'Yuquanying Roundabout Furniture City'), not really about the town.
The article Yuquanying Subdistrict doesn't have to meet the GNG because it meets NPLACE, but we can't make the same carveout twice for the same place. I remain unconvinced that we need two separate articles and strongly stand by my original position that these articles should be merged. Toadspike [Talk] 14:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The claim that "We can't make the same carveout twice for the same place" is not policy – it actually demonstrates a lack of familiarity with the broader landscape of Geography and History articles across Wikipedia. Wikipedia is vast though, and there is no deadline, so I would recommend joining up with more WikiProjects where you might get exposed to a larger volume of articles. (I find my own perspective changes all the time, the more I read and the more I edit and the more I participate across different WikiProjects.) Cielquiparle (talk) 04:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerman, Mazandaran

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Fails WP:NGEO, non-notable village in Iran. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 16:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The issue is currently being addressed. I'm trying to collect as much information possible to make sure it can considered notable.PAper GOL (talk) 17:33, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The relevant criteria here are explained in WP:GEOLAND: Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can be notable, because notability encompasses their entire history. It is a little concerning that a couple of the reference links appear to be broken but if it is in fact a populated, legally recognized place, the article will likely pass. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:27, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A great part of articles are random villages. This is because the objective is to cover every village in the world. This should be kept no matter what. Earth605 (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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leaning keep It does look like a village on GMaps, but there is a history of the Iranian census being misrepresented. Could we get confirmation from a Farsi speaker? Mangoe (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Naukatola Raxaul

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Lacks significant coverage; no reason found to justify its inclusion.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 12:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - is this article listed in the Indian census for Bihar? If so, the place is notable as legally recognized. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:12, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could not find it listed as a village either under this name, or as Naukatola (probably its actual name; "Raxaul" seems to be for disambiguation), Nauka (from GEOnet Names Server) or Nauka Tola. It seems to be part of Hardiya Panchayat. Peter James (talk) 16:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete fails verification. I couldn't find anything on the maps that I could match with this, and from the discussion above it appears that a textual source has not turned up. Mangoe (talk) 18:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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