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I was about to post the same question. While we all know the discretionary range is 0%-100%, at [[WP:RFA]], the "rule of thumb" discretionary range is 70-80%. Thus it looks like several bureaucrats at the Liz RFA overrode the community's will by claiming 73.53% is the "high end of the discretionary range." The whole 'crat chat was a bit of a fiasco, which as an opposer I actually didn't mind -- it was entertaining -- but the discretionary range issue is a bigger and ongoing mystery that should probably be addressed. [[User:Townlake|Townlake]] ([[User talk:Townlake|talk]]) 01:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
I was about to post the same question. While we all know the discretionary range is 0%-100%, at [[WP:RFA]], the "rule of thumb" discretionary range is 70-80%. Thus it looks like several bureaucrats at the Liz RFA overrode the community's will by claiming 73.53% is the "high end of the discretionary range." The whole 'crat chat was a bit of a fiasco, which as an opposer I actually didn't mind -- it was entertaining -- but the discretionary range issue is a bigger and ongoing mystery that should probably be addressed. [[User:Townlake|Townlake]] ([[User talk:Townlake|talk]]) 01:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

== I need a favor ==

I have to run but I haven't finished all the janitorial stuff related to the close... can someone help out? Thanks! --'''[[User talk:Maxim|<font face="Arial"><font color="#FF7133">Maxim</font><sub><small><font color="blue">(talk)</font></small></sub></font>]]''' 01:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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    Inactive admins for August 2015

    The following admins can be desysopped for inactivity:

    Thanks to all of them for their service to Wikipedia. Graham87 03:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, as Xeno pointed out here, due to the delay in notifying them they shouldn't be desysoped until the 5th. Kharkiv07 (T) 04:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, didn't notice that. Makes sense. Graham87 04:32, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Uh oh. Probably due to my screwed up formatting the bot didn't send the second round of e-mails and messages... I'm on it. Kharkiv07 (T) 00:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Yup. So what appears to have happened is (for people who don't know), the bot was down at the beginning of the month so I complied the August admins by hand, but apparently the bot wasn't happy with my work and it didn't send the second round out. I just did it now by hand. Sorry for the delays and confusion I've caused, but per precedence you should probably give it until the 12th. Kharkiv07 (T) 00:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    20 lashes with a wet noodle! In other news, thank you for your continued supporting of this process! -- Avi (talk) 00:28, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. WJBscribe (talk) 10:21, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

     On hold - Users notified late, so please do not action until 12 August 2015. WJBscribe (talk) 10:21, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Regulation Committee and alternatives to consensus

    Bumping thread for 30 days. ceradon (talkedits) 04:23, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Members of the community are invited to give their thoughts at a request for comment to discuss Wikipedians' alternatives to consensus, and the formation of a proposed Regulation Committee. Thank you, --ceradon (talkedits) 04:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Has a crat perhaps missed adding Rich Farmbrough's unsuccessful RFA to the alphabetical list? I wanted to look at it, to check a certain matter. Am I missing something? It's not one of those <expletive> cases where the user is actually called Throatwobbler Mangrove, is it? Bishonen | talk 10:42, 2 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]

    No, apparently not.. I found it eventually in the chronological list. Bishonen | talk 10:44, 2 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
    Phew, no excess polystyrene (and it's Throatwarbler Mangrove, for the cognoscenti ). -- Avi (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Apologies, I'd forgotten all about the alphabetical list of unsuccessful candidates - I thought it was now a category like the alphabetical list of successful candidates (Category:Successful requests for adminship). WJBscribe (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I didn't know about the successful category — I guess I never look up those. :-) Perhaps the unsuccessful list ought to be a cat too? Bishonen | talk 17:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
    @Avi: Sometimes one and sometimes the other, I guess. I swear I was googling for the "Throatwarbler" version, but this page came up prominently. Anyway, they're both very good account names. I think I'll just create me a new sock or two. Bishonen | talk 17:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
    There is an unsuccessful RfA category as well at Category:Unsuccessful requests for adminship along with the alphabetical lists. Liz Read! Talk! 21:02, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]


    As a result of this arbitration case the Committee has resolved to desysop Kww (current rights · rights management · rights log (local) · rights log (global/meta) · block log). He may regain the tools at any time through a successful request for adminship. Thank you for your assistance, please action as required. For the Arbitration Committee, Liz Read! Talk! 14:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Administrator and edit filter manager permissions (per here) have been removed. –xenotalk 14:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    That should be logged here as well, yes? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus, it's taken care of now. Liz Read! Talk! 20:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The time run out, but people are still voting, and, what is worse, commenting each other votes. I would appreciate at least closing the voting. Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Thread moved to Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Liz/Bureaucrat discussion#Comments moved here from Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Question,

    .. and I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. In general what is the current "discretionary range" with respect to judging a RfA? (within a point or two). I understand each case is judged individually, but generally speaking - within a point or two: What constitutes a "pass", a "no consensus", and a discretionary judgment call (or 'crat chat'). I won't fuss over the answer, I'm just curious about the current norms. Thank you, — Ched :  ?  00:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think there is a set answer, especially since it isn't really based on pure numbers but our collective understanding/interpretation of the actual discussions. There are successful RfAs that went to chat with 71% and there are unsuccessful RfAs that went to chat at over 73%. It also depends on which 'crats are participating, as we are all human and not robots (at least last I checked, I have my doubts about WJBScribe). -- Avi (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    LOL about Will. OK, thanks. Basically I'm inferring that the lower 70s are the "discretionary range" then. All I wanted to know. — Ched :  ?  01:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC) ... and I wouldn't WANT "bots" doing the call. — Ched :  ?  01:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I was about to post the same question. While we all know the discretionary range is 0%-100%, at WP:RFA, the "rule of thumb" discretionary range is 70-80%. Thus it looks like several bureaucrats at the Liz RFA overrode the community's will by claiming 73.53% is the "high end of the discretionary range." The whole 'crat chat was a bit of a fiasco, which as an opposer I actually didn't mind -- it was entertaining -- but the discretionary range issue is a bigger and ongoing mystery that should probably be addressed. Townlake (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I need a favor

    I have to run but I haven't finished all the janitorial stuff related to the close... can someone help out? Thanks! --Maxim(talk) 01:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]