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Off wiki Evidence

Hello Team,

i want to send off wiki SPI evidence. Please share email address. Thanks in advance. 2409:40F0:8:4D14:E5DA:B7A5:B51A:7BB7 (talk) 04:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

You will need to create a Wikipedia account and enable the email function. It's free and easy. User:Arbitration Committee explains how to email that committee. An alternative to ArbCom is to send an email to an individual administrator heavily active at WP:SPI. Cullen328 (talk) 05:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Cullen328, I have done, the process mentioned by you. I didn’t got any reply or update from them. 2409:40F0:129:D682:BCD1:15DA:BB30:1E92 (talk) 19:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Which process, IP editor? If you registered an account, please edit from that account. If you emailed ArbCom, expect that it will take a while for them to respond. Committees work slowly. If you emailed an administrator, each is a volunteer working only when they choose. Be patient. It has only been 14 hours since my first answer. Cullen328 (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328, im an blocked user. So which i can only edit my talk page and mail an user or administrator :) 2409:40F0:129:D682:BCD1:15DA:BB30:1E92 (talk) 20:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

IP editor, stop evading your block by editing logged out. You are only making matters worse. Appeal your block on your user talk page and do not edit anywhere else. Cullen328 (talk) 03:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 The IP is currently under a range block that prevents account creation and editing Hyderabad cricket team. That's probably what they were referring to when they said "im an blocked user." — DVRTed (Talk) 04:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

User name rename

Hi Teahouse,

I would like to change my username to something more comprehensible than this alphanumeric string. Please help. Thank you very much.40S9350144 (talk) 18:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Read the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username. DS (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks DS. I see that your username is not actually DS though. Is it possible to abbreviate it when a comment is signed? 40S9350144 (talk) 18:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:CUSTOMSIG. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (need something?) 18:48, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! 40S9350144 (talk) 18:53, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Just so I understand this correctly, "Simple account rename" would change mean my username only on Wikipedia whereas the "Global user account rename request" changes my username on all of Wikimedia's projects? Thanks! 40S9350144 (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

I think so (I've only ever done the simple rename). Also note that the global request requires your email. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (need something?) 20:58, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there any risk in giving out an email address? Thanks! 40S9350144 (talk) 07:18, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@40S9350144 both would change your username on all WP:SUL wikis, this included. – robertsky (talk) 05:24, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! If that is the case how are those two options different from one another? 40S9350144 (talk) 07:08, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Also, is it possible for me to go for a global rename if I had already undergone a simple rename? Tysm. 40S9350144 (talk) 07:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, please review my article.

OpenCore Legacy Patcher SatellaN64 (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, your article will get reviewed when a patroller gets to it. Unfortunately, we usually can't help people cut the line by asking at the Teahouse. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 02:53, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@SatellaN64 Note that your use of boldface type does not conform to our manual of style, since items like MacBook5,1 are not redirects to the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Examples of great pages in encyclopedic style?

Hello friends! I received a rejection for a suggested page (Draft:Nora Freeman Engstrom). The feedback was that this read more like a CV than an encyclopedic article. It is very good feedback, and I can appreciate exactly what the editor was getting at. (I'm new around here.) So I am going to start over and am researching more about encyclopedic style. To that end, I'm wondering if anyone has examples of pages that really embody this style and tone? I work better looking at examples of exemplary content. Thanks so much in advance! A2Jforever (talk) 00:27, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@A2Jforever: The list of Good articles is one place to start. Good articles (and Featured articles, which are the cream of the crop) have met specific criteria and exemplify our policies and guidelines and Manual of style. Reviewers don't expect new articles to be anywhere near Good or Featured quality, but I like to think of a promising draft or new article as one that could eventually be brought up to these standards. The lists of Good and Featured articles are sorted by topic, with biographies included within the relevant topic. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 01:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Article Creator?

How to make a new article? Hello wikiusers! (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I suggest reading WP:Your first article and then using the blue button at WP:AFC. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 02:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Replay and New topic

Sometimes, Wikipedia won't let me add a new topic or reply, forcing me to go into editor and type a reply myself. I sometimes can (like right now) and sometimes can't (a couple minutes earlier). It's kind of annoying and I'm worried if it actually pings users. I have tried closing and opening, reloading the page, and purging it. Also

--pro-anti-air (talk) 03:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)   Also why does my signature look like that?

Not sure what you're referring to with the rest, but your sig looks like that in this case because it's on a new line with a leading space. -- Avocado (talk) 12:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Danny Dale Stinson jr

Hello, my draft for my husband's Wikipedia page was turned down. I need help getting it approved. He has worked hard on becoming one of the world's best masters' strongmen and should be recognized. Thank you Kathyslove (talk) 03:27, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Kathyslove. Your draft is unreferenced, which violates Verifiability, a core content policy. You need to formally declare your Conflict of interest. Spend some time reading and studying Your first article, so that you have a better understanding of what is required. Cullen328 (talk) 04:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Danny Dale Stinson Jr

Hello Kathyslove,

Thanks for stopping by the Teahouse. You might want to have a read of WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY (okay strictly speaking writng a biography of your husband is not an autobiography, but it's close enough). Anyway for a topic to be considered appropriate for a Wikipedia article, we're looking for significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic - so your first step is to be looking for newspaper or magazine articles that cover Mr Stinson Jr. (not including WP:ROUTINE coverage like this), and then, forgetting everything you know personally about your husband, writing an article using only information stated in those sources.

That is a lot more likely to be approved. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 04:26, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Kathyslove, and welcome to the Teahouse.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. And that is even without a conflict of interest. ColinFine (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Essay on wp:whitewashing?

I believe there was an essay on WP:Whitewashing, but now I cannot find it. I was going to start the equal, but opposite, essay. I wanted that as reference. Does anyone know what I am referring to? Iljhgtn (talk) 08:15, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

The act of removing harmful content from an article was what the essay was overly concerned with, and I thought it was called, "wp:whitewashing", but I cannot find anything like that. Iljhgtn (talk) 08:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

For some reason WP:WHITEWASHING used to redirect to WP:SOAPBOX but I cannot fathom why. On the topic of removing "harmful" content from articles, presumably the place to start would be WP:CENSORSHIP. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 09:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

It's WP:PROUD. tgeorgescu (talk) 09:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

And WP:AUTO, WP:ACTIVIST, WP:ADVOCACY. tgeorgescu (talk) 09:43, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

That is helpful, but those are not essays. I thought there was an essay that essentially summed up wp:whitewashing or that some people would occasionally cite as doing that much, and I was thinking that there could be a helpful essay that did the opposite, but which essentially explained the value of just not including excessively harmful content or trying to "smear" a subject. I had previously asked about this on the tea house and I am just now following up when I have a moment. Iljhgtn (talk) 06:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Digging into it further, I think MOS:LABEL may already adequately describe the situation that I am referring to. I am not sure then if a new essay is really necessary. Iljhgtn (talk) 06:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Funnily enough, as I was digging, I found that you actually !voted for the deletion of the redirect Wikipedia:Whitewashing several months ago. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Maybe my memory is warped, but I swore there was an essay too? Maybe it was never an essay and only ever a redirect? WP:SOAPBOX was just a section of a greater policy related to WP:WWIN, and wp:whitewashing then was a redirect to this, which itself had been deleted even earlier back in 2020 from what I can see. Iljhgtn (talk) 06:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

How to access the Wikipedia Library, and both physical and online libraries

Hello to anyone who contributes, my username is CreativeLibrary460 and I'm new to Wikipedia. However, can you explain on the Wikipedia Library in simple terms and how do I access the Wikipedia online library? Are there limitations on the library's collection on Wikipedia? I want to be able to access the digital resources of the library, and if the online library doesn't have the resource I'm looking for, can I check the books, magazines, and newspapers out from a local physical library? As far I can tell, this Wikipedia Library allows active editors to access a wide range of collections of paywalled reliable sources for free. Additionally, is this possible to cite the source offline, from the physical library that contains printed material, such as books, instead of eBooks or only online things? Thank you for answering this question, if you have an offer. >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library revision}\ 09:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, CreativeLibrary460. You're certainly welcome to use offline sources, as explained at WP:SOURCEACCESS. Sources available via public libraries and online sources that aren't behind paywalls might be your best options for now, as access to the Wikipedia Library is restricted to editors whose accounts are at least six months old and have 500 global edits (see WP:LIBRARY). You might also find the Resource Exchange useful. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry What is the reason for Wikipedia Library being restricted to editors whose accounts are at least six months old and have 500 global edits? >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library revision}\ 13:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

If access to the library were unrestricted, unscrupulous people could use that to get round the paywalls that many publishers use to gain a monetary return on their publications. The staff at the library have to negotiate a reasonable balance between giving access to committed Wikipedia editors and the interests of the external suppliers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull @Cordless Larry If I'm welcome to use offline sources, as explained here with WP:SOURCEACCESS, does this mean that I really have to rely on print books at the library as sources for citation? Does this include other print material, especially available on the library, including the newspapers and periodicals? >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library revision}\ 16:15, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

You can use other print sources and online sources that you can access. See WP:RS for an overview of what sources are considered reliable. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry @Michael D. Turnbull @Pigsonthewing Thank you for answering this. And for the reply too. >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library revision}\ 17:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

If you need to access as a specific publication, for Wikipedia purposes, but it's paywalled, ask at WP:RX. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:08, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the Resource Exchange. >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library revision}\ 16:09, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Question on the Teahouse:

What is the difference between article and a draft? And how could draft be turned into articles? How long they will both last? PageLengths6012 (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@PageLengths6012 Welcome to the Teahouse. As we use these terms in the English Wikipedia, articles are the over 7 million entries in mainspace. Many have been created by a process described at articles for creation by which editors first develop the text as drafts in what is called draft space. This part of the website is not indexed by search engines. Many new editors find it helpful to submit their drafts for review by experienced editors: see Help:Your first article for full details. Articles in mainspace remain there indefinitely unless proposed for deletion, whereas drafts are usually temporary as they are moved to mainspace, or rejected as unsuitable. A draft that is untouched for six months will be automatically deleted by a bot but can usually be restored if someone wants to return to it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

That's fine. At least I would be making drafts. Thanks for the difference. PageLengths6012 (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Help with plot summary

Hello, I am attempting to add the real names of the witches to the following part of the plot summary of ENA: Dream BBQ.

After finding a way to block the vision of the man, ENA crosses the bridge and finds one of the witches, who asks her for help in finding her relatives, who are three other witches that can be found in the middle of Uncanny Streets.

This particular paragraph cites a source, and that source doesn't mention the real names of the witches anywhere, but can I still add them since it's a plot summary, which is supposed to mostly cite the game itself? 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm really not that familiar with expanding plot summaries, so I could really use some help here. 1isall (talk/contribs) 20:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

1isall - Please see Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Style_guidelines/Copy-editing_essentials#Don't_lose_the_plot - Arjayay (talk) 20:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that this is the plot summary for a video game. 1isall (talk/contribs) 20:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

this may help-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Video_games aquarium substrate^talk 18:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I've read that before. 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

References

Highways and Byways series of books by MacMillan and Co.

I have purchased a used book from the above series entitled Highways & Byways in Derbyshire by J B Firth and illustrated by Nelly Erichsen. I accessed Wikipedia to see how many books are in this series. The list given by Wikipedia gives 36 titles, but does not include Highways & Byways in Derbyshire which was first printed in 1905, my copy is a reprint from 1920. Is this omission an oversight? 2A00:23C7:ED3D:B701:D9C3:F132:59C4:33B0 (talk) 15:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Probably. Please be bold, and add it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

"Complete sets" of 31 volumes are advertised on the internet, and our article Highways and Byways (series of regional guides) cites (Ref 2) a site listing 36 (+1 booklet) not including Derbyshire, but this site claims 37, and Google's "AI Overview" actually includes (for me, YMMV) an image of Derbyshire's volume.

Note that not all were necessarily in print at the same time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 22:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Reference

I would like to add award nominations to a celebrity's list of accolades, but because it was long ago, the only source I can find are youtube videos of the full award ceremonies posted on official channel of the award-giving body. Can I use them as references? If yes, do I need to specify the timestamps etc? Blurbysky (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

It is odd that you would be able to find videos of the award ceremonies but not the actual listing by the organization itself. What exactly is / are the award(s); and for which celebrity? Yes, YouTube clips announcing the nomination from past award ceremonies suffice; but I would timestamp just so that editors do not need to watch the entire clip to find one nomination. Overall, however, you'll want to provide a "better source" rather than just a YouTube clip since these are better served to reference what a celebrity might say during their acceptance speech. Maineartists (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

"Заблуждения - ступени Науки."

No discernible question. -- Hoary (talk) 20:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Этот оксюморон Прудона явно соответствует Истории теоретической Общей Физики ... Кроме обычных ошибок Человека, исправляемых им самим, если получится, существуют и так называемые ОБЩЕПРИНЯТЫЕ ОШИБКИ, которые всем Человечеством считаются истинами продолжительное время; но время проходит, и находится один Человек или некоторое множество людей, у которых возникает понимание того, что это - ЗАБЛУЖДЕНИЕ, - которое необходимо лишить статуса ОБЩЕПРИНЯТОЙ ОШИБКИ потому, что это - обычная ошибка людей, не отвечающая научной истине ЗАКОНОВ ПРИРОДЫ. История Физики начиналась с множества утверждений - гипотез, на чём Земля держится ... . _ _ _ _ _ _ А в 1905 и 1916 годы Альберт Эйнштейн - и до сих пор - убедил ... главных физиков-теоретиков Земли в том, что ... смотри СТО и ОТО , т.е. Специальную Теорию Относительности и Общую Теорию Относительности. Сомневающихся в правоте этого приговора много ... , но... знакомые мне - не профессионалу - не пожелали говорить со мною на эту тему. Однако, есть ФАКТ, известный с 1851 г. : фундаментальная физическая константа - СКОРОСТЬ СВЕТА в ВАКУУМЕ !. Но Альберт Эйнштейн' ... почему-то забыл про это ,,, и сумел убедить главных физиков-теоретиков Земли в том, что и в вакууме Вселенной' скорость ЭМВ "туда" и "обратно" различны, как и в атмосфере Земли, где эта скорость зависит от абсолютного показателя преломления среды, делающего cкорость ЭМВ меньше, чем фундаментальная константа вакуума. И все профессионалы физики, как и все журналисты, - молчат угрюмо на : Российская Академия Наук не реагирует ... А ... волонтёры с правами выкидывают этот мой текст из Википедии. VIR-1937 (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2025 (UTC) Google translate gives:- =="Delusions-Steps of Science." == This toxic humoron' Proudhon' clearly corresponds to the History of Theoretical General Physics... In addition to the usual mistakes of man, corrected by himself, if possible, there are so-called GENERALLY ACCEPTED errors, which by all Mankindare considered truthsfor a long time; but "time passes", and there is oneMan or some multitude of people, who have the understanding that this is a DELUSION, which must be deprived of the status of a GENERALLY accepted error, because it is a common mistake of people, which does not correspond to the scientific truth of the LAWS of nature. of Physics began with a multitude of assertions-hypotheses, which "the Earth is holding on''....______Av1905 and 1916Albert Einstein-idosikhpor-convinced... main theoretical physicists of the Earthin that... see SRT and 'GR, i.e. 'SpecialTheoryOfRelativity and 'GeneralTheoryOfRelativity. There are many doubts about the correctness of this "verdict"..., but... Acquaintances to me, layman, did not want to talk to the somnaya. However, there is a FACT known since 1851: the fundamental physical constant is the 'SPEED OF LIGHT in a VACUUM!. But "Albert Einstein"... for some reason I forgot this,,,managed to convince the main theoretical physicists of the Earth that "in the vacuum of the Universe"the speed of EMV"there' and "back"are different, like in the atmosphere of the "Earth", where this speed depends onabsolute refractive index of the medium, which makes the speed of EMV less than the "fundamental vacuum constant". And all the professionals of physics, like all the journalists, are silent, gloomy: Russian AcademyScienceDoes not react... Ah... volunteersright throw out this mytextfrom Wikipedia. VIR-1937(talk)19:37,22June2025(UTC) - Arjayay (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

VIR-1937 - This is the English Wikipedia, please communicate in English. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? - 19:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Вопрос подразумевался :

"Как быть людям с ФАКТОМ, что Альберт Эйнштейн грубо ошибся, и его "эпохальные" СТО и ОТО - фантастичнее древних гипотез ?

Владею я только русским языком ...

Любой переводчик поможет выявить у меня лживые утверждения,

которые я не сумел обнаружить ...

VIR-1937 (talk) 09:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:FRINGE would seem to apply. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

What's the primary reference for where to add which templates in what situations?

Since coming across the As Of template, I've been confused on whether it's correct to be replacing every literal "as of" & "since" with instances of As Of. Similarly, is there a WP style guide for which templates to use in certain situations? For the most part, my knowledge of templates comes from observing templates I've seen before on Wikipedia and keeping them in mind for when I run into a situation similar to the one in which I saw them. How do I actually know when to use certain templates? Hopelessrailfan (talk) 21:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Hopelessrailfan: The point of the {{as of}} template is it adds the page to the hidden category Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements. The utility is so that those statements are tagged as potentially dated, and can be changed in the future easier because they are tagged with the template. The guideline for using that particular template is here, and basically it should be used when a statement contains information that could change in the future. cyberdog958^Talk 22:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I would add that the {{as of}} template should be used almost exclusively in the article & Draft namespaces. Peaceray (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Templates

How to add templates to articles without having to put that with coding? Is not there an easy way to do that? Zryk (talk) 22:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

VisualEditor. In the visual editor, there is a dropdown that says "Insert". Within it says "template". There, you can search for a template that your would like to add to the page. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 22:33, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Pinging @Zryk Justjourney (talk | contribs) 22:33, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Zryk: Adding to what Justjourney said, you can also check out Help:VisualEditor#Editing templates; it walks you through the steps with screenshots, which can make it a lot easier to follow. — DVRTed (Talk) 22:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Delete a redirect?

Hi! About a week ago, I proposed a merge of Drug Enforcement Unit with Royal Bahamas Police Force, since it is an article about a completely non-notable police unit. I have now closed the merge discussion per WP:MERGECLOSE, merged the two articles and replaced the source article with a redirect. Now that I think about it, I realize that a redirect is not really appropriate since "Drug Enforcement Unit" is such a general term, there are probably thousands of police forces that have a unit with that title. What do you think I should do - nominate the redirect for deletion or direct it somewhere else? Aŭstriano (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

You might generate a list of pages that mention the DEUs of specific Police Forces, and then convert the redirect to a Disambiguation page for them, but it would not be a small task.

Note that the Disambiguation page for DEU now has an entry for the term that links (only) to Royal Bahamas Police Force#Drug Enforcement Unit, which is a bit over-specific for the reason you state above. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

The redirect needs to be kept in some way for attribution purposes, I believe. 125.237.67.137 (talk) 05:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Formatting in AfD's

Recently, I've been participating in a number of AfD's and I had a quick question about their formatting. I can't seem to reply to comments or the original message in a way that is consistent with the view of other comments, such as this one I just commented on. Am I replying to the wrong comment in the AfD or do I have to edit the source directly to add it like everyone else is doing? Any clarity would be extremely helpful but let me know if my question needs more clarification too. Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Use * as a bullet point before every AFD response. It shows up in source edits of those pages. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Surayeproject3, while you are editing "source", if you put a * immediately after a line break, this creates a bullet to introduce a non-numbered list item. (Sorry, no idea about the "visual editor", let alone the "app".) Go D. Usopp ("MimirIsSmart"), you have formatted your own comment in that AfD as if it were a response to Surayeproject3, whereas I imagine that you're instead responding to the deletion proposal. -- Hoary (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I was gonna clean up and remove that space anyway. Go D. Usopp (talk) 03:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for your responses, I'll be sure to use the bullet when replying to future AfDs. Surayeproject3 (talk) 17:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

how to add citation

I mean how to add sources to my text Blackmightydeath (talk) 04:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Blackmightydeath. Please read Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 (talk) 04:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Adam

When I try to edit the entry "Adam", I was asked to go to the Teahouse to see restrictions. What are the restrictions? Jensenjan (talk) 05:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Do you mean the note that reads:

This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse.

jlwoodwa (talk) 05:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

yes Jensenjan (talk) 05:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

The talk page has these instructions for those that can edit: "Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content". If in doubt of neutrality, use the talk page to discuss what you want to change. Since you are a confirmed user editing is possible from you. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Jensenjan (talk) 06:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I have one more question if you would be so kind: In the beginning of the entry it says Adam with a reference [c] which then has the name Adam in the various languages. In my opinion that should be part of the text, not a note. How do I change that? Jensenjan (talk) 06:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

MOS:LEADCLUTTER says:

Avoid cluttering the first sentence with a long parenthetical containing items like alternative spellings and pronunciations: these can make the sentence difficult to read.

So I would not move that footnote's contents into the lead sentence. They may be appropriate in another section, though. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:22, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I accept your suggestion and thank you very much Jensenjan (talk) 06:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

M. Sai Deep

Hi, I’m requesting help submitting an article about M. Sai Deep, a notable Indian motorcycle racer and EV influencer. I have a complete draft with reliable sources. Can a neutral editor help me review and submit this 2600:387:F:6116:0:0:0:8 (talk) 07:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

IP user, can you link to the draft? I can't find M. Sai Deep as a draft or article. You should be able to submit the draft using the 'submit' button at the top, or adding the {{subst:submit}} template to the top of the article. Make sure the topic is notable, and all information is encyclopaedic and supported by reliable sources. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 08:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You may use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. If you are connected to this person, that needs to be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 08:27, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. To save yourself some trouble, I suggest that you review each of your sources to make sure they meet all the requirements of WP:42: as well as being reliable, they are also completely indepedent of Deep (not written or published by him or his associates, or based on an interview or press release), and contain significant coverage of him, not just a passing mention. Then make sure that your text is a neutral summary of what those indpendent sources say, and very little else. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 10:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Genome.ch.bbc.co.uk

The sites not working since June 20 and won't work

Do you know what the issue is? 37.228.248.251 (talk) 08:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid that we can only help you with issues related to Wikipedia, sorry. 331dot (talk) 08:25, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh ok. But can I add a few things on other articles? I haven't really edited some things on there. I want to create a few tv show articles. 37.228.248.251 (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to the Teahouse.

As 331dot says, we can't help with another site.

Certainly you are welcome to edit Wikipedia - I suggest you create an account) but you don't have to if you don't want.

My strong advice is to start small. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 10:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Genome is working for me. We cite it in many articles, and have an article about it: BBC Genome Project. If you need to report a problem with Genome, see https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/contact -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Guidance in creating a draft article for submission.

I'm creating a page for submission for a living person, Leif Cocks. Here is the draft so far: User:EscapedApe/Leif Cocks

I'm looking for some guidance to help tidy up this article and fix any issues, I'm sure there are a few, before I attempt to submit it as article.

What are the next steps I should take? EscapedApe (talk) 09:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @EscapedApe, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Looking quickly at your draft, it seems to me that most (all?) of the references are not independent of Cocks. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

Please read WP:42, and evaluate your sources according to its criteria. ColinFine (talk) 10:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @ColinFine, I appreciate the advice. Is my understand correct that the copy is okay, however it's just the references are not independent of Cocks? EscapedApe (talk) 22:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You are looking at this the wrong way. Any copy in the article should be a summary mostly of what its independent Reliable sources say (apart from uncontroversial minor details).

Writing the copy first and then looking for Reliable sources to verify it is an approach we call WP:Backwards; it is difficult, time-consuming and usually unsuccessful.

I suggest you follow up and study the links so far given, choose only sources that meet all of the criteria, and revise the draft to summarise only those. If you can, that alone would probably pass assessment when submitted, but further minor details cited to non-independent sources, as aforementioned, can then be added to flesh it out.

However, there is no penalty for submitting a draft, having it Declined for further improvement, making improvements, submitting again, being Declined again, etc., etc. until successful – the process is designed to work that way. Only those who resubmit without improvements as suggested become problematic.

I'm pretty certain your subject is Notable, so merits an article provided that notability is demonstrated, and that there is no likelihood of the draft being Rejected (meaning: give up). Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 23:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, that makes more [additional] sense. I'll approach/review this based on the suggestions provided. It's taken my brain a little while to get to grips with Wikipedia:42 (I'm not sure why) but think I'm getting it now. Much appreciated. EscapedApe (talk) 01:59, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Television show reception

How do I source and edit the critical reception section of a television show's page? Both the section at the top and the dedicated section below it. What2Write (talk) 10:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @What2Write, and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm not clear what you're asking. The answer seems to me to be "By finding places where people unconnected with the show have published critiques of it, and summarising what those critiques say", but I guess you already know that. Perhaps you can be clearer what help you are looking for. ColinFine (talk) 10:55, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm just curious how you decide the top section. If it received critical acclaim, if it simply received positive reviews, etc. What2Write (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

It's not clear what you mean by "top section", but please see WP:LEAD if that is what you mean. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Merge?

Was there a template to suggest a merge without actually starting a merge discussion?? Govvy (talk) 10:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Govvy: Yes there is the {{merge to|}} and {{merge from|}} templates that can be placed on the top of the pages. But I suggest that you cluck on the discuss link to explain why the merge should happen. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

That's the one I know already, for some reason I thought there was another template. Govvy (talk) 11:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Other merge templates can be seen in a navigation section on the bottom of Template:Merge. But the documentation says that if you don't want a discussion, just be bold and do it yourself. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Requesting Neutral Review and Submission of Draft: Kiara Locklear (nee Pralle)

Hi Teahouse editors,

I've drafted a Wikipedia article about Kiara Locklear (nee Pralle), a professional soccer player in the USL Super League and former All-American at Lipscomb University. Due to my close relationship with her (I'm her husband), I'd like to avoid any conflict of interest or self-promotion concerns.

Would any experienced editor be willing to review the draft, and if appropriate, submit it through Articles and Creation?

Thanks so much for your help! Jlocklear51 (talk) 14:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Jlocklear51 Your draft at User:Jlocklear51/sandbox has already been declined for the reasons given by the reviewer. Although about your wife, not yourself, you need to be aware of our strong advice against WP:Autobiography and also our policy on biographies of living people, specifically the very stringent requirements for inline citations. For example, the "personal life" section is unreferenced. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Jlocklear51, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Thank you for being open about your COI.

I have added a Draft header to Draft:Kiara Locklear, which will allow you to submit it for review.

However, while I'm not going to do a pre-review, I note that few if any of the sources meet the triple criteria in WP:42. Without several sources which do meet these criteria, it has little chance of being accepted.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi again!

Below is an updated summary of reliable, independent sources supporting the notability of Kiara Locklear (née Pralle) — an American soccer player currently competing in the USL Super League. Thank you again for your consideration!

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=== 📑 Source Summary ===

🏆 2024 ASUN Conference Player of the Year

Named Player of the Year after scoring 16 goals at Lipscomb University; earned First Team All-Conference and All-Academic honors.

🔗 ASUN Conference News

🇺🇸 United Soccer Coaches All-America (Fourth Team)

First All-American in Lipscomb women’s soccer history, finishing senior year with 19 goals and 42 points — both program records.

🔗 Lipscomb Athletics Announcement

⚽ ASUN Tournament Performance

Scored a hattrick in a 7–0 win in the ASUN Tournament semifinal vs. Central Arkansas.

🔗 Match Recap

📄 Professional Signing – Fort Lauderdale United FC

Signed with Fort Lauderdale United FC in December 2024 for the inaugural USL Super League season.

🔗 Signing Article

🎯 Early Pro Career Highlights

• Scored a brace in a 2–0 league win vs. Carolina Ascent FC 🔗 USL Recap – OurSports Central
• Scored both goals in a 2–1 semifinal victory, sending FTL to the USL Super League Final 🔗 FTL UTD News

📊 Season Statistics (FotMob)

According to FotMob: In the 2024–25 USL Super League season, Locklear made 18 match appearances (16 starts), scored 7 goals, provided 5 assists, and logged 1,423 minutes played.

🔗 FotMob Player Stats – Kiara Locklear Jlocklear51 (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not accept blatantly AI-written work. Please rewrite this in your own words. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 15:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello again, @Jlocklear51. I can't see most of those, but it is obvious that several of them are published by her university, and so are not independent. The others, judging by their titles, are unlikely to contain in-depth information about her.

Please do as I suggested, and look critically at every one of your sources against the criteria in WP:42.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Pubkey Article page

Hello I'm trying to setup a page for one that is missing given the historical significance of Pubkey I want to have it featured and it's not letting me post despite having sources listed and referenced. Is there something that needs to be done to get this added? Epim10 (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Draft:PubKey was declined several times for several reasons including the following:

• It showed signs of being written by an LLM like ChatGPT
• It is written like an essay
• It closely paraphrased sources
• It had a promotional tone.

All of which are not allowed for articles on Wikipedia. I would recommend you get familiar with editing existing articles before you create one yourself.

You can see the reasons why your draft submissions were denied in more detail on your talk page. » Gommeh (he/him) 15:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I've rewritten these bits several times, sorry my writing reads like AI that is my writing style. Can you assist in any way? Epim10 (talk) 15:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You may need to ask the Guild of Copyeditors as well as the people at WikiProject Cryptocurrency (although it's described as inactive) for help on that. I doubt the article is worthy of inclusion here so I've submitted it for deletion. You're welcome to userfy it but it won't be allowed into article space for the reasons I stated at XFD. » Gommeh (he/him) 16:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

All of your reviewers thus far have said the article appears to be AI written or assisted. You'll need to rewrite the article in your own words if you wish to to be accepted. In addition, the article appears to be largely promotional of the subject. That will need fixing as well. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 15:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I wanted to mostly feature the Trump visit, any features and references will end up looking like promo pieces when I'm trying to feature the Trump visit. Epim10 (talk) 16:31, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

If you mostly want to feature the Trump visit then I doubt the article is notable enough for inclusion. If anything you can mention it (perhaps as a subsection) in another article, but it shouldn't have its own. Otherwise, every visit to a company by a US president would be its own article. » Gommeh (he/him) 16:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Jayhawk Collegiate League and Hap Dumont

Jayhawk Collegiate League and Hap Dumont

These two articles are not written to Wikipedia's standards and I'd like to respectfully ask that their creator familiarize themself with WP:MOS, but am not sure what to say to them. Can someone else please take a look at the articles and let me know what they think? » Gommeh (he/him) 15:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Well the first was created by an unregistered editor in 2005, so good luck tracking them down. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 17:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Gommeh, and welcome to the Teahouse.

While discussing an article's shortcomings with the editor(s) who created it is certainly possible, and considerate, it isn't necessary - and as DnB says, they may not be around Wikipedia any more.

I see you've tagged their problems. If you want to do more, I would suggest simply editing the article to improve them. If you wanted, you could put a note on the Talk page saying what you are doing, and ping the editor who created Hap Dumont. ColinFine (talk) 18:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking about doing that but wasn't sure what to say to them or what points to bring up if I was to successfully make contact. I have tagged the articles with the appropriate tags for interested editors to clean up and done some work on Hap Dumont myself. » Gommeh (he/him) 19:10, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

New Wiki Page

Hello after years of thinking about it and reading my name referenced in other articles i decided to create my own wikipedia page.  I did this yesterday and noticed that when I did a search within WIKI my new page did not show up.  Did I do something wrong?  The content is accuarate and rather innocuous.  Help me understand WIKI proces

[12:21:28 PM] <BrownNarwhal81> my Wiki page is currently Re: Kai Eric

[12:21:47 PM] <BrownNarwhal81> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re:_Kai_Eric Kai Eric (talk) 16:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

There are a few issues with the page. First off, your user page is not an article so it wouldn't have shown up as Kai Eric. Second of all, you are not allowed to create articles about yourself (WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY). You don't own a page that is written about you as well. Finally, it appears that your userpage (User:Kai Eric) is being used to promote your career as an actor, which would violate WP:G11, so I've had to submit it for deletion. See WP:PROMO for more information. If you have any more questions please feel free to let me know. » Gommeh (he/him) 16:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I understand your position but I am 70 years old and not trying to attract acting jobs. I am more of a musician at this point. I just saw my nam referenced an thought that, if anyone was curious or searched online for a brief history, that WIKI would be the approprate site. So how does one go about getting inserted into the record? Does one need a third party to submit? Do I create the page in "sandbox" and submit for review or has it already been reviewed and rejected. Kai Eric (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You can't create an article about yourself no matter what. If you had been notable someone would have already made an article for you. » Gommeh (he/him) 17:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Gommeh, please refrain from WP:BITEing - there's no need for it.

Kai Eric - you may create an article about yourself but it is very strong discouraged. You would have to the AfC process described at WP:YFA as users mayreally should not edit live articles that they have a conflict of interest with directly. It is not correct to say that every notable subject has had an article already created about them however, you may wish to explore Alternative outlets for what you're trying to achieve instead. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 17:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

This is true with the stipulation that, as per WP:COIEDIT, "you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly", not prohibited entirely. Anyway, I don't think I worded my last comment very well. Effectively you can, just make sure you write in a neutral POV and are notable enough for inclusion. The issue is most people struggle with that sort of thing when writing about themselves as they have a subconscious natural bias in their own favor, so it's very difficult and almost impossible to view yourself neutrally. You can use AFC if you need to. I have not checked your history on wiki, but you should make sure you have experience editing and that you know the Manual of Style too.
I'd also like to add that IMO for an article whose subject is actively involved in its creation (using COI edit requests or not) I'd hope to see at least some contribution from other interested users to check for NPOV issues et al. Obviously that won't be a deciding factor in terms of accepting the AFC submission, but I'd take that into account. There are tons of places on Wikipedia that you can go and ask for help on this sort of thing, for example WikiProject Music and WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers.» Gommeh (he/him) 18:04, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

"users may not edit live articles that they have a conflic of interest with directly" Not what [{WP:COI]] says. Please read it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:04, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining this to me. My intention was to create a small bio overview that I seen many times in my visits to wikipedia. My intention was not to advertise to but fill in the gaps and provide a link should someone encounter my name in another wiki page. I noted my sources but perhaps the format was wrong? In any case the page I created has been deleted by the WP. Should I try to create anew page using the sandbox and ask for WP review as I go? Is there a template for bio-pages? 2603:7000:8B00:4F0A:6530:34C6:7506:6211 (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I've commented in User talk:Kai Eric on the deleted draft. -- Hoary (talk) 22:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

My first article, please check and review

I just wrote my first article Lukumanu Iddrisu, will I get someone here to help me review it and add comments ? 154.161.11.117 (talk) 16:55, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Are you Finwikihub and have accidentally logged out? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 17:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Finwikihub (I assume) - Generally, you can't "skip the line" at New Pages Patrol just for asking at the Teahouse. That would be unfair to everyone else (and the Teahouse would be flooded asking for reviews). Just be patient, someone will get to it eventually :). Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 04:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Margaret Price Finlay

Margaret Price Finlay

Has the title of this article been misspelled for over a decade? Mike Rohsopht (talk) 17:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Wow, it looks like it was. I've moved the page, feel free to be bold and do it yourself next time. GoldRomean (talk) 17:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I think they were just asking for a second opinion. People's names can be spelled differently on purpose. But I could be wrong. » Gommeh (he/him) 18:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Fair. If anyone has the sources, feel free to revert the move. But the article (and only source) did say "Findlay". Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Bad Categories on Profile page

I am looking on page of Rae Lil Black where I see categories:- 1):Category:Japanese female adult models

2):Category:OnlyFans creators

3):Category:Japanese pornographic film actresses

But she officially admitted that is quite it. So why these cats are there on her Wikipedia page(may be guidelines violation), i recommend something like former(term) is better to use.

Thank u 獅眠洞 (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

We don't have a "former" category for every categorisation by proffesion. Bambi Woods is still categorised under American pornographic film actresses but I don't belive she's appeared on screen since 1985, over a decade before Rae Lil Black was born. I don't see any merit in drawing a disctinction between current/former for categories. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 18:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Without "former" word generally considered it now his/her current profession, While Rae Lil Black officially announced that she is quitting adult industry when she is talking about her old(shooted video of adult industry). If u read page u find sources also. 獅眠洞 (talk) 18:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

senior u may also know see Category:Former Muslims and Category:Muslims. Both have distinction of past affiliation of faith and for Rae Lil career. 獅眠洞 (talk) 18:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think that converting from a religion comparable to retiring from a career, in something like Former Muslims, it's notable that they stopped practising Islam because not every Muslim is going to stop being a Muslim. But every actor is eventually going to stop being an actor at some point, either through retirment, death or simply not getting any more work - so former isn't a useful distinction in that case. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

So Plz u may suggest better name of cat. 獅眠洞 (talk) 19:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

The categories seem acurate as they stand to me. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

she voluntary acounced that she is quitting porns industry. When someone like me, become confused.and how we distinguish between who are current and quitted. In case of Bambi Woods it is uncertain that she taken a break or stop working in industry. 獅眠洞 (talk) 19:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

And we enough source also confirming that she left porn industry. I agree(ways to left career) with u but distingtion is important.If someone Who doesn't conform like Bambi can be undersdable. While Someone left it voluntary and announced also. May have different cat. 獅眠洞 (talk) 19:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

i mean in distinction who are in current in industry. 獅眠洞 (talk) 19:22, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

The disctinction between not currently working, taking a break and permanently retired falls into WP:CRYSTALBALL territory. It's not uncommon for actors to retire, and then go back to work after a while: there are many examples.

If we were to have a category of former pornographic actresses and then Bambi Woods were to (at the age of 70) decide to leave retirement - would we have to introduce a new category of former-former pornographic actresses? Of course not. Categories aren't supposed to be transient qualities, they are indicators of what a subject is known for.

Bare in mind that most people subjects on Wikipedia are long dead, so they (almost certainly) won't be returing to their respective careers, would you really suggest adding former to every category that they occupy? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@獅眠洞: Wikipedia:Category names#Occupation says:

'Occupation categories should not be divided into "current" or "former" categories. For example, Category:Former child actors and Category:Current Minnesota Twins players should not exist.'

PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank u now i understand it.

It doesn't make sense ex category:Former writter, category:Former artist. 獅眠洞 (talk) 04:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

actually it was my WP:COI, I came from background where this occupation is seems as too bad. 獅眠洞 (talk) 04:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Wondering why I need 500 edits to translate pages?

hello, i’ve been on wikipedia for a while now and one of the main reasons i created this account was to be able to freely translate pages from spanish to english and vice versa, yet i don’t understand why i need at minimum 500 edits to complete this? i have asked this question before to my spanish mentor and he wasn’t sure how to respond as this is only on english wiki. why is this so strict, and why is there no way of being able to simply become a translator without having to go through 500 edits? i understand that it is in order to prohibit vandalism and ensure that the user has understood how to write accordingly and in wikipedia’s style, but i think 500 is too much.. is there a way to be able to get around this and not have to complete 500? or have i misinterpreted this? i am not as active as other users so i might have misunderstood the requirements.

thank you for reading and my apologies if this has been answered before. Gish1991 (talk) 19:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You do not actually need 500 edits to translate, just to use the Content Translation Tool. Just follow the instructions at WP:TRANSLATE. (FYI, it used to be 5,000! See WP:AN/CXT#Lower/Change the 5000-Edit Bar?) GoldRomean (talk) 20:47, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Actually, you can still use the translation tool with fewer than 500 edits. You just have to save the output to your userspace, instead of directly creating a mainspace article that is a translation. Since WP:CXT tends to produce errors that will get WP:NPP reviewers after you if you leave them in mainspace, you should probably be creating drafts from CXT to your userspace anyway. Sorry @Gish1991, the 500 edits thing is pretty much just a lie. -- asilvering (talk) 22:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Ooo, I didn't know that, thank you! I tried messing with the translation thing and didn't do very well, so that tidbit might be helpful in the future :). GoldRomean (talk) 23:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I think it was done because too many "newbies" were using uncorrected machine translation.

Maybe you can rack up 500 edits by translating parts of articles, by selecting your preferred language(s) from Category:Articles needing translation from foreign-language Wikipedias? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

That makes sense, but if that's the sole reason, perhaps it needs to change, since (I believe) machine translation is no longer avaliable anyway. GoldRomean (talk) 20:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You're correct that machine translation isn't available anymore; see Wikipedia:Content translation tool#Why machine translation is disabled in content translation. » Gommeh (he/him) 21:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

People were cutting'n'pasting from machine translators. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:27, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

The big problem with inexperienced editors translating articles from other Wikipedias is not the quality of the translation (whether machine or human), but in many cases the quality of the articles. If the sources

article is inadequately sourced (which is often the case) then translating it is more or less a waste of time, since in order to create an article acceptable to English Wikipedia, you would have to start from scratch, finding and then summarising acceptable source. ColinFine (talk) 22:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

trying to publish my first article.

I want to write an article about a medical affliction which i suffer with, and has only a little research done about it. However, I believe that creating a Wikipedia article for it will help to improve how many people in the medical profession know about it. Please help me. Draft:Hellʼs Itch. Alexiaquinton (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Alexiaquinton: If "only a little research" has been done about it, we can't have an article. We can't cite Reddit under any circumstance (no editorial oversight). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 23:49, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I did not intend to cite reddit as a form of research, but I intended to just linking it for pragmatism. I have edited it with changes, citing all the research papers about the topic which i know to exist. Alexiaquinton (talk) 00:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, welcome to Wikipedia. I formatted your references for you and made a few small tweaks to the article, this seems like it could well qualify for an article although I have zero background in medicine so take my word with a grain of salt. I'd suggest trying to incorporate a couple more academic papers and submitting it for review again. Best of luck, MediaKyle (talk) 01:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Alexiaquinton. I know nothing about writing on medical matters, but I looked at your draft. I wondered if your Further reading link to the Business Insider article would work as a reference and checked Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, but didn’t see Business Insider listed, so don’t know if its reliable. I would suggest you take your time before re-submitting. Read over the 2 citations you have and see if you can take the info given in them, and use your own words (don’t copy/paste) to add a little more. Perhaps give symptoms, and a little more about research that’s been done. It might help to search reliable medical websites, such as from The Mayo Clinic or Cleveland Clinic, and see if there is anything to help your draft. Take a month or two to come with new sources for reliable information. Best wishes on your research and writing project. Karenthewriter (talk) 03:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Because if their potential to cause harm, medical articles must comply with WP:MEDRES. You can ask for specialist help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:49, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

URL when referencing the Newspaper Archive

Hi Teahouse. I want to cite a newspaper article which I have accessed through the Newspaper Archive in the Wikipedia Library. My question is about the value to use for the URL field in the cite news template. The URLs as I see them when logged into the Wikipedia Library look like this: https://access-newspaperarchive-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/au/victoria/melbourne/melbourne-argus/1955/01-10/page-11. For readers who aren't logged in to the WL, this will redirect to a login page. Is that the best option? Thanks, Tacyarg (talk) 00:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Tacyarg. In this sort of situation, I'd usually link to a version of the source without the WL login page. It appears that https://newspaperarchive.com/melbourne-argus-jan-10-1955-p-11/ is the original URL here. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, that's helpful. Tacyarg (talk) 07:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Significant other redirect

I tried to find a policy or guideline about this, but couldn't really find anything. There is a redirect for Erika Frantzve, who is the wife of Charlie Kirk. The redirect goes to Kirk's personal life section, where she is briefly mentioned. Frantzve is non-notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Is it appropriate to have a redirect for her name in this case? Aŭstriano (talk) 02:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I'd say yes, since Charlie Kirk#Personal life is probably the best place for someone looking for info about his wife to go, even if it doesn't have much information. Generally, you don't need to be notable to have a redirect. See WP:REDIRECT for more info, maybe that was what you were looking for? Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 04:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

The New York Times' 100 Best Books of the 21st Century and WP:TOP100

I believe our article The New York Times' 100 Best Books of the 21st Century is a major copyright violation per WP:TOP100 point 4 but I'd like a second opinion about what to do. Therapyisgood (talk) 02:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

@Therapyisgood, thanks for pointing this out. I've tagged it for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. That may not work since some material in the article is not a copyright violation, but the first versions were as just copies from the list. Instead the article may just need to have the list removed an all earlier versions removed from the history. StarryGrandma (talk) 03:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

can i write an article on topic " ongoing Indian biomedical projects"

i am wanting to write an article on above specified topic is it qualified if not pls tell me an article in which i can make it a sub heading Blackmightydeath (talk) 02:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

It seems an unsuitable topic for an encyclopedia article, as its subject matter would change from year to year. Maproom (talk) 07:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

To what extent do articles on plants want photographs of parts of the plant?

I found Oriental bittersweet in my neighbor's garden, and after asking an expert, I learned that the plant has a distictive white root, which I assume means distinct from the American bittersweet. The sample my neighbor gave me also had two kinds of leaves: one narrows to a point, and the other is round and oblique. Shushimnotrealstooge (talk) 02:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Where can I request an image?

I want to put a render drawn in Flash of myself, I saw that there is a version of asking for pages but I lost it, if anyone knows, please give me the link. PixelWhite (talk) 03:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Question on article submission

Is there a limit on how many times you can submit an article for review? Avocadopiu (talk) 04:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think so. There will be a point where the draft will be accepted or finally rejected. But as long as you heed the advice of the reviewers and improve the draft between submissions, there shouldn't be a limit. Maresa63 ^Talk 06:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)