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    • Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed.

    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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    User:Qwiogc reported by User:AirshipJungleman29 (Result: Blocked indef as NOTHERE)

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    Page: Li Ching-Yuen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Qwiogc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 12:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC) to 12:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
      1. 12:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      2. 12:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      3. 12:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      4. 12:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    2. 17:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    3. 15:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    4. 15:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    5. 15:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    6. 15:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments: After the above edits, Qwiogc has twice made an absurd edit, then self-reverted the next minute, at Genghis Khan[1][2] and Laozi[3][4]. NebY (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked indefinitely NOTHERE. Daniel Case (talk) 18:53, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Ponkey2008 reported by User:Ser! (Result: Resolved without action)

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    Page: Lamine Yamal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Ponkey2008 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: diff (involving addition of the word "young" to the claim in the lead and removal of sourced content)

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 31 May, no edit summary (first addition of claim and removal of sourced content, partially reverted by Seasider53 then further removal of sourced content reverted by me)
    2. 31 May, no edit summary (second addition of claim and removal of sourced content, reverted by Seasider53 as unexplained content removal)
    3. 31 May, "There is no need for this obvious bias, many pundits have said many things about many players, and that doesnt mean you should just state that they have said "he is the best player in the world". Stop adding that or else I'll keep correcting it" (third addition of claim and removal of sourced content, reverted by Rap no Davinci)
    4. 3 June, "I removed some unnecessary details there, as it was set to push one club's agenda! and does not agree with Wikipedia's policies" (fourth addition of claim and removal of sourced content, reverted by me)
    5. 6 June, "There is no need to state he won a domestic tremble on the foreword of his page, Even Ousmane Dembele that was very instrumental in PSG's treble doesnt even have it on his foreword. Please stop adding it here thanks❤️" (fifth addition of claim and removal of sourced content)



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 3 June, including direction towards the article talk page

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: "Best (young) player in the world?", no response

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [5]

    Comments:
    User appears intent on pushing a POV on this page per the edit summaries and has been reverted four times by three distinct users; attempts to guide the user onto the talk page have been entirely fruitless. Per the edit summary in diff 3 they seem entirely intent on continuing to push through their own version. — ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 18:41, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I hate to say it, but this is a situation where I think the edit warrior has a point that everyone's missing.

    To wit: The claim he keeps removing is a rather extraordinary claim, all the more so for being inherently subjective, that really, per LEADCITE, should be cited in the intro even if it is already cited in the body (several sections down, where of course casual non-Wikipedian readers are going to stumble right across it). You yourself seem to have understood this issue in the talk page section you opened up a few hours before coming here, before Ponkey might have been reasonably expected to have responded by. And indeed you've been satisfied with this sort of resolution before. I'm deferring any action for now, and of course other admins can do as they will, but I think that maybe sourcing it in the intro would do a lot to end this. Daniel Case (talk) 19:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry @Daniel Case: but I don't think you've read this one correctly at all. The claim for the subject being regarded among the world's best did have citations, with four citations present in the lead; this only changed with an edit made after I filed this report. Every single one of Ponkey's edits have all been to versions of the page where the content has been cited. And just to be clear, I opened a talk page section three days ago per the diff you provide; not a few hours as you say above. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 19:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In this very diff that you provided, I see, yes, one cite at the end of the first graf. At the end of the next graf, I see "his performances have led to widespread claims by pundits and players that he is the best player in the world." That was the language Ponkey keeps removing.
    And I would probably remove it too. Leaving aside its repetitiveness (just what editorial purpose is served by saying the very same thing we pretty much just said?), we use the very PEACOCK-y (in this context) "widespread" without bothering to cite even one such claim (And no, the single cite for the previous graf does not come anywhere near supporting any reasonable conclusion that these claims are "widespread")
    Really, this was very sloppy editing on someone's part, and this is why we should not edit sloppily as it needlessly leads to this sort of situation. I would amend my previous suggestion to consolidating these "best footballer in the world right now" claims to one graf or the other, and following them up with about three of the citations in the body if we wish to continue claiming these are "widespread".
    As for the talk page section I was discussing, it was my error. Sorry. But that does not invalidate in any way my larger critique here. (And maybe before warning Ponkey you might have tried posting something similar on their talk page?) Daniel Case (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for that acknowledgment on the timestamp aspect. There were four citations combined into one at the end of the sentence - I believe I may have used "citation" rather than "reference" in my response, that's on me. The latter sentence which is essentially a repetition of content in the end of the "Club career" section has now been removed, which is fair enough. I'll implement your suggestion and re-add the citations per WP:LEADCITE and hopefully this solves the issue. Yourself or any other admin are free to close this as no action, as unless the reversion and addition of unsourced content re-ensues I would be satisfied with this. Thanks again, ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 19:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks; I think I'll close this here as a block would be tough to justify with WP:3RRNO #7 and WP:BLPRESTORE in mind and the page is already at least semi-protected. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:26, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
     Resolved without action. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:28, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:AHI-3000 reported by User:Soetermans (Result: Stale)

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    Page: Template:SpongeBob SquarePants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: AHI-3000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 18:44, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "Don't just revert without an explanation"
    2. Consecutive edits made from 17:56, 6 June 2025 (UTC) to 18:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
      1. 17:56, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "At least give me an excuse or justification instead of reverting without explanation"
      2. 18:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC) ""
    3. 06:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "What do you mean by "too small"? And the other previous version of this template had everything listed in a rather disorganized manner."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 09:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "Navboxes"
    2. 18:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "/* Disruptive editing on navboxes */ re"
    3. 18:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    AHI has discovered collapsible subgroups and has decided they should be used in navboxes. Has been reverted several times, doesn't follow BRD or understands that being reverted means there is no consensus. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I have already been cooperating with the issue concerning Template: Castlevania series and reponded to feedback accordingly. Soetermans just decided to revert my edits to a completely different template (Template:SpongeBob SquarePants) without even any explanation. He's also a participant in this edit conflict, and escalated it there, so he's not some neutral third-party observer. Instead of talking it out with me, he immediately resorts to doing this. AHI-3000 (talk) 18:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The explanation was clear as day: others disagree. That should be sufficient for you, I don't know, not edit war? Have you stopped? No, you did not. So here we are. Same goes for {{Castlevania}}, in which you continue to push for your preferred version. Notifying involved editors Oknazevad and SnowFire. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've only seen about this due to the recent edits on the SpongeBob SquarePants navbox template, but there appears to have been recent edit warring on Template:Castlevania series as well, with three different users reverting their edits there (two of the other editors notified above). Magitroopa (talk) 19:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Was already coming here to comment re: Template:Castlevania series for full disclosure. I have advised AHI that once he's reverted he needs to keep BRD in mind, and that he should not make any further changes to a live template while discussion is ongoing and instead should create a draft in his sandbox for others to look over. But the part that is the fundamentally disconcerting aspect is the edit summary quoted above "At least give me an excuse or justification instead of reverting without explanation". That's not how it works. As the one proposing the change, he, not those reverting undiscussed major changes, must be the one to give a justification, and said justification must gain consensus. He didn't even bother with an edit summary when he started. That's failing to do the bare minimum. oknazevad (talk) 19:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    AHI-3000, based on Special:Diff/1294277184, I expect you not to edit for the next 24 hours so a block isn't needed to prevent further edit warring. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:21, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:119.94.167.39 reported by User:Илона И (Result: Partially blocked 2 weeks)

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    Page: When Life Gives You Tangerines (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 119.94.167.39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    1st case: [6]

    2nd case: [7]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [8] I added comparision between later editions so it will be more visible. First I deleted part that she added before due WP:Undue and WP:Peacock
    2. [9]
    3. [10]
    4. [11]
    5. [12]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [13][14]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    [15][16]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [17]

    Comments:


    Hello, yesterday I noticed edit by 119.94.167.39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) that didn't follow wiki rule WP:DUE and WP:PEACOCK I corrected the part that didn't follow the rules with comment Deleted Undue weight not neutral tone. User 119.94.167.39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) returned and Undo my correction with comment restoring quote per reliable source; elaboration (I deleted only craze part). I corrected it again and asked her to make Talk topic. She Undo my edit for 2nd time, without creating Talk topic. I created Talk topic in article Talk topic here [18], undid her revision for 3rd time, went to her page and warn her abt edit warring and ask to discuss at Talk topic the issue [19]. After this she finally replied in Talk topic and I didn't report her for Editwarring but for me this new editor didn't quite understand Wiki rules even when I and other editor asked her to read it. I also asked help from Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#When Life Gives You Tangerines because this user accused me of bias and refused to listen and I needed neutral opinion on this issue.

    But when I woke up today I noticed that she again deleted edit of Preferwiki (talk · contribs) [20] and after Augmented Seventh (talk · contribs) reverted her deletion she manually deleted it again [21] and violated WP:3RR rule. Because I warn her several times about it, I report this user here.

    Augmented Seventh (talk · contribs) also posted warn about WP:Editwarring at my page [22] but I explained him the situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Илона И (talkcontribs) 00:19, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Artemiser32 reported by User:Soetermans (Result: )

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    Page: Soma (video game) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Artemiser32 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 14:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1294575075 by Soetermans (talk) Again, yes, very much a video game genre. Please stop needlessly reverting edits."
    2. Consecutive edits made from 11:25, 7 June 2025 (UTC) to 11:27, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
      1. 11:25, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Conceded MOS:TITLES reversion. Psychological horror designation stands."
      2. 11:27, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Grammar and spelling correction."
    3. 11:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1294375455 by Soetermans (talk) Psychological horror is indeed a genre that may or may not encompass survival horror. (cf. Silent Hill). As per MOS:TM and MOS:TITLES, trademarked game titles should retain their stylisation if it's not overly distracting. SOMA is both a trademarked title and a published video game, it is correctly capitalized."
    4. Consecutive edits made from 10:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC) to 10:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
      1. 10:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1294373526 by Soetermans (talk) Restoring previous version; revert was incorrect. "Soma" is marketed and listed as SOMA."
      2. 10:34, 7 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      3. 10:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Fixed short description after revert."
    5. Consecutive edits made from 01:06, 7 June 2025 (UTC) to 10:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
      1. 01:06, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Updated short description"
      2. 01:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "/* top */SOMA is largely considered to be a psychological horror game (cf. Silent Hill 2) with survival horror elements. No resource management etc. likened to survival horror other than the basics of hiding & puzzle solving. The game is exploratory."
      3. 01:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Updated short description"
      4. 10:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Changed grammatical errors."
      5. 10:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      6. 10:11, 7 June 2025 (UTC) ""
      7. 10:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Artemiser32 moved page Soma (video game) to SOMA (video game) over redirect: Misspelled: SOMA is marketed and stylised as "SOMA", not "Soma". "

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 10:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Soma (video game)."
    2. 11:07, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "/* June 2025 */ re"
    3. 11:12, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Soma (video game)."
    4. 11:13, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "/* June 2025 */ re"
    5. 11:15, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "/* June 2025 */ re"
    6. 14:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Soma (video game)."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 10:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC) "Soetermans moved page Talk:SOMA (video game) to Talk:Soma (video game) over redirect: WP:MOSCAPS"

    Comments:

    User first insisted on making incorrect all-caps style (WP:MOSCAPS) and added incorrect video game genres (video game genres are based upon gameplay, not narrative). Messages and warnings and the option to start a talk page discussion, request input from WT:VG or make a request for comment have been ignored. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd like make a notice that this user incorrectly has a headlock on the general consensus of Psychological Horror as a genre. The existence of this sub-genre (along with Survival Horror) is not disputed, and it is ignorant to disregard it as such.
    Please take this into consideration before any further action. Thank you. Artemiser32 (talk) 14:59, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What a strange reply. I should inform myself before taking action? You have been told to stop edit warring, yet continued all the same. Wikipedia is no place for edit warring, or WP:GENREWARRIORs for that matter. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not edit warring. You have been continuously reverting non-vandalising and constructive changes to a video game page that is generally considered to be in the sub-genres of Psychological Horror and Survival Horror. I recommend experience with games including Silent Hill, SOMA, Cry of Fear, F.E.A.R, etc. before making more authoritative comments on the existence of this genre.
    I'd also like to point out that I have conceded the points regarding MOSCAPS, and so it is immature and unnecessary to use it as ammunition in an administrative dispute.
    Thank you. Artemiser32 (talk) 15:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You did. After your initial edits, you reverted four times, whether or not you conceded the unnecessary all-caps style, you pushed your preferred version. You did not start a discussion on the talk page. You did not ask for advice. You did not provide any reliable sources. You reverted again and again. You make general claims without any evidence. A video game genre is based upon gameplay and not narrative. And now you suggest I should have some experience with games? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:32, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I reverted your reversions, you are yourself participating in this conflict. I do not have to give you reliable sources on my own, they have already been provided for you on the (subsection) Wikipedia page on Psychological Horror games as a genre.
    According to your authoritative, vindicative consensus on the supposed existence of this genre, I suppose the existence of this category should be entirely disputed and erased as well?
    Sincerely, I fail to see any evidence on your part. Please tell me where your authority stems from. Artemiser32 (talk) 15:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    EDIT: Wrong hyperlink, should refer to this page instead. Artemiser32 (talk) 16:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You are edit warring and refuse to engage in a constructive discussion and make odd comments that border uncivility. This looks like a WP:DIDNTHEARTHAT or perhaps a WP:COMPETENCE issue at this point. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I fail to see how you are engaging in constructive discussion. I've given you my points. I do not see them addressed. Artemiser32 (talk) 15:50, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Briandamgaard reported by User:Go D. Usopp (Result: )

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    Page: Sokoban (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Briandamgaard (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [23] Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [24]
    2. [25]
    3. [26]
    4. [27]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [28]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [29]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [30]

    Comments:

    User violated 3RR while reverting an edit he disputed simply for vanity without regard for MOS. Go D. Usopp (talk) 14:56, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]