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Answering here as I believe it is more convenient. As you probably guessed, I dropped the thing entirely after being told it was on the community wishlist, but I can certainly show you around the bot areas (I am myself quite a newbie but I know the basics). Judging by Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/DannyS712_bot_3 you already have the bot account and the script that runs on it, the only problem is moving to Toolforge to go full auto. The steps to do so are:

Create a Toolforge account (link - you should point to the BRFA in the registration form). You will need both to create an account for yourself and a "tool" account from which the bot runs.
Access Toolforge. You need some basic knowledge of Bash and SSH to do that. mw:Help:Toolforge is your friend.
Place the source files inside the tool account directory at Toolforge. (I strongly encourage you to use some version control e.g. Git even if none else will ever touch the source.) Be careful that by default those files are readable by anyone - so if you use mw:OAuth config files or the like, you should change the permissions so that only the tool maintainers can read those. (You will probably need OAuth to run the bot on WP, but I guess you already have credentials for when you run it manually?)
Run the script at regular intervals via a Cron job. Cron is pretty much all the documentation you need (mine is a simple one-liner). You should not run anything resource-expensive directly from the Toolforge shell but instead submit it to the grid, but Cron's will be automatically edited to ensure that.

Another advantage of running on Toolforge is that you can save files within the tool account that cannot be edited by Wikipedia users (the only way to do that in-wp would be to protect the page and grant advanced permissions to the bot, but no bot ever gets granted permissions the maintainer does not have for obvious reasons).

Do ask any specific questions, I will answer to the best of my ability. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Tigraan: Thanks. I've already asked for a toolforge account, but I also need to figure out how to fix a mistake I made when making the account. I'll keep you updated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Tigraan: So I made a toolforge account, but now it won't let me make a repository to put the code. Please help --DannyS712 (talk) 20:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closing discussions: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Indefinitely semiprotecting the refdesk

I was pleasantly surprised to notice when I clicked edit Proposal VII - Just stop the vandalism that you closed it. Would you like to collaborate on closing the main thread by adding your name here? I was planning on doing Proposal VI: A new Ask a Question page next, so if you want to handle Proposal V, I'd also appreciate that! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 22:52, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: I have a really busy week coming up. Given that we would both be doing {{nac}}s, it might make more sense to co-close them. Thoughts? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, I am okay with that. As long as we get this done tonight, I think we should be okay. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:26, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: do you want to email me when you have drafted the close? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, sure! That works!! :D ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Actually, i don't think I'm going to have enough time to read through the entire debate tonight, so on second thought, you may want to co-close with someone else. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 02:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, you know... I was thinking the exact same thing (I was not going to be able to even send a draft tonight).. Still counting the !votes. It's no problem lmao. Thank you anyways! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 02:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: well when you do have a draft, you can send it to me if you want? No time pressure... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, sounds good. No pressure to you as well to co-close as well. I am pretty sure I am insane for attempting this at this point. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 02:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Thank you for your article submission. Noting that you have only been registered for 4 months and already hold numerous minor user rights, although I have no jurisdiction over what gets published, you may wish to withdraw your comments and image regarding Hat Collecting. The magazine gets enough negative comment about our reporting already and this will invite more. (FYI Bri). Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kudpung and Bri: My plan for that story was:

hat collecting... no but in all seriousness, having two more interface administrators will likely lead to an increase in the gadgets available to all users. [And then I would discuss G's plans for their short-description gadget, and E's plans for their script installer gadget]

I can see why the hat-collecting part may appear in bad taste. Would it be okay if I replaced the image but kept the start of the piece? I wanted to add some humor (and you'll note that I did not put this as the lead story, for similar reasons). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kudpung: I've added more to the story, though its obviously still a work-in-progress. What you you think? --DannyS712 (talk) 04:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You may have missed the point of what was inferring above with regard to hat collecting. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kudpung: Sorry, I'm really tired. I see what you mean, and I'll rewrite the story. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 16:33, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kudpung:

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Danny, I'm on wiki-leave right now. If you get stuck, feel free to ping me next week. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, will do --DannyS712 (talk) 04:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #028, 04 Feb 2019

Here's a quicky status report:

Old-style portals: 1,018

Single-page portals: 4,367

Total portals: 5,385

But of course, there has been more going on than just that...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is up and running!

Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running.

What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page.

We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live.

When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants.

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Another sockpuppet infiltrator has been discovered

User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user.

When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again.

The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:

And the corresponding talk pages:

New portals since the last issue

Keep up the great work

Until next time, — The Transhumanist 08:59, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: I couple of notes: under scores in the "New portals" section; the overlap of one of the names with the next column, and you also haven't mentioned the version 3 of my script (I think you missed it when it came out) that transitioned to a visual interface. Other than that, thanks for the update. --DannyS712 (talk) 09:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Those damn underscores!

Sorry 'bout the oversight on ver 3. I'll start drafting the next issue now, and add that immediately so I don't forget. Cheers, — The Transhumanist 09:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Again, if you want a second set of eyes before its sent, I don't mind reviewing it and then using mass messaging. --DannyS712 (talk) 09:31, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to send it myself. But, maybe I will start sending it to you first.

— The Transhumanist 09:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Okay. Just let me know --DannyS712 (talk) 09:43, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikidata weekly summary #350

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Events
- Next Wikidata workshop/meetup in Paris: February 15th
- Next Wikidata meetup in Berlin: March 12th
- The conference grant proposal for WikidataCon was submitted and could use endorsements.

Press, articles, blog posts
- „Eisberg voraus!“ – Sächsische Landeskunde mit SXRM, Wikisource und Wikidata by Jens Bemme (in German)
- Linking the OLAC Video Game Vocabulary with Wikidata by Tracy Hoffmann and Peter Chan
- Adam blogged about how to update an existing Wikibase docker instance

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Got some time? SpeedPatrolling, a tool to simplify patrolling of recent changes on Wikidata (documentation), has been announced and you can use it to help fight vandalism.
- Got some time? Match some streets and the humans they are named after.
- Got some time? Help link OpenStreetMap and Wikidata Items with the new OSM <-> Wikidata matcher.
- Wikidata Query Service now has over 7 billion triples.

Did you know?

Development
- Making progress towards first showable version of basic Shape Expression support
- Layout polishing for the mobile termbox (the box that shows labels, desctiptions and aliases) and continuing work on the "in more languages" and "all entered languages" sections in it
- Added tracking for the number of Senses and Forms to our graph for tracking the number of Items, Properties and Lexemes
- Worked more on making it easier to set up Quickstatements in other Wikibase instances
- Preventing an entity to redirect to itself (phabricator:T214919)
- Working on making Federation (reusing Wikidata's Items and Properties to make statements) work for Wikimedia Commons to get the rollout of the next stage (support for depicts statements) unstuck
- Fixed an issue with adding sitelinks from Commons (phabricator:T213975)
- Fixing Cognate support for yue Wiktionary (phabricator:T214400)

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NPP Bot

Hi Danny. I saw your PERM request for your test account. Do you intend to discuss functionality of your bot under development with the NPP reviewer community before you apply for bot approval? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: This would not be patrolling mainspace pages. It would (at the start) be only user pages, and potentially expand to wikipedia-space pages. I explain a bit more at User talk:Sage (Wiki Ed)#Question re Patrolling. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Dotgirlfine

Draft of Ashi Singh does have edit option I need to add some references and she won award also, but draft of Ashi Singh doesn't have edit option and remove semi protection also please. Dotgirlfine (talk) 07:08, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dotgirlfine: I'm afraid I can't remove the semi protection. However, @Sir Sputnik, who protected the page (see 96230498) may be able to explain why its protected. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:11, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dotgirlfine: The page has been the subject of significant misuse of multiple accounts (also called sockpuppetry), so the page has been protected so only registered editors with an account that is at least 4 days old and has at least 10 edits can edit the page. This is to discourage to the editor misusing multiple accounts from registering new ones. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sir Sputnik: Thanks for the follow-up --DannyS712 (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for closing the authority control template RfC

I greatly appreciate your responding to the administrator's noticeboard for closure for Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_148#RfC:_authority_control. I think you did a great statement of consensus and also I appreciate your closing out the request queued at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure.

Excuse me for asking for an additional favor after you have just granted a favor, but if I may request, in the future when you close a large discussion please also seek to report the close at the most concerned channel. I just tried to do that at Template_talk:Authority_control#Close_of_RfC, which is the talk page for the template in discussion.

If you miss cross reporting then I think everything is fine, but I was checking to see the response back at the template talk and was unsure whether people there even recognized the close. Thanks for doing the admin work in any case. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:07, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry: Will do. Sorry about that. I posted a tl;dr summary of the close there. Thanks for following up. I didn't really know much about the authority control template until I read through this RfC before closing it, and it was a really interesting RfC (and topic) to close. Let me know if you have any questions about the close --DannyS712 (talk) 19:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You were a neutral closer and I think you did great. No one can predict the future, but your close might be a directional marker guiding the entire future of digital media and human culture. Wikimedia projects get 500 million unique visitors a year and I can only guess 50 million of them at least see the templates. The content of many more gets influenced by how these templates direct people.

The template was established in an OCLC project in 2012. It is on a million ENWP articles and sets the policy for similar templates in all other language Wikipedias. It now is going through exchange with Wikidata, so keep up your experiments there to maintain ambient awareness.

The exciting secret about this is that Wikimedia projects are building the only interconnecting hub between all databases. OCLC has some of this and some good things that Wikipedia does not, and so do Google etc, but Wiki is the prototype and experimental bed for what everyone does.

If you are amenable to being pitched you could submit 3-5 sentences to The Signpost at the newsroom in news and notes - Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom. I wish we had journalism labor organized to interview people, summarize conversation, and track things like this because the impact is massive in its effect on research, publishing, and how people access information. I really appreciate your close, which seemed thoughtful, understanding, and fair. It literally would have taken a room of PhDs, engineers, and executives months to do what you did if we were talking about a competing website. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:31, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry: For the signpost, I might be open to it, once the "news and notes" section is started. I'm flattered by the impact you think I may have; I was thinking along similar (though less grandiose) lines when I decided to close each of the sub-questions, to ensure that the discussion serves as a starting point for future RfCs. As for the "room of PhDs...", well that's the beauty of wikipedia: executives don't have extra authority over the PhDs and engineers, and it's the ideas that matter, not the people. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't undo this request removal, the character in the request was taken from https://unicode-table.com/en/0019/

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Redirects&diff=882585201&oldid=882585154 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.151.26.64 (talk) 03:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay - if you changed your mind, thats fine --DannyS712 (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I made an account, can I get confirmed?

My former IP edits are here. --Splattereel (talk) 07:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Splattereel, Please make a case for yourself and request at WP:PERM--DBig Xrayᗙ 07:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just 4 days and 10 edits, not so hard. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 07:03, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Splattereel: I posted a comment supporting you getting the rights. If needed, I'm a new page patroller, so I can double check your redirects and help you get started! --DannyS712 (talk) 07:12, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Votes by topic-banned editors

Hello, I was wondering whether votes by topic-banned editors should be struck in RfCs?[2] The editor Rajulbat was topic-banned in part due to disputes relating to the content of the RfC on the Mitch McConnell page. If this editor's vote had been struck, there would have been 4 votes against the "obstruction" language and 3 votes in favor of it - would that have mattered in terms of deciding that there is a "consensus" against the "obstruction" language or not? I note also that the topic-banned editor is the only one who bothered to write more than two sentences to argue against the content. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 22:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Snooganssnoogans: The vote wasn't struck before I closed it (and hasn't been), so I didn't take that into account. I'll note that the topic ban was only enacted 6 days after the user's !vote, so I'm inclined to take it into account. Also, you say 3 in favor - I only see 2 (you and Aquillion). Other than Trillfendi's suggestion of just the obstruction part, they are opposed to the rest; that's why I pointed out that adding just obstruction might have more support in the future. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your RFC on commas at WT:DYK

Hi, it's been almost 2 weeks without comment. The way to close an RFC is to ask an uninvolved administrator to take care of it. They will determine consensus and close accordingly. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) @Yoninah: I have already requested a close --DannyS712 (talk) 02:01, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw that. But that's not how you do it, and only an administrator can close it. You have to ask them directly on their talk page. Among the administrators familiar with DYK who didn't participate in the discussion are Vanamonde93, Casliber, Alex Shih, and Anarchyte. Best, Yoninah (talk) 02:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I'm sorry, but what do you mean that "only an administrator can close it"? If that's the case, I'll move it to the proper section of WP:ANRFC, but AFAIK non-admins are allowed to close RfCs. Also, that page is labeled as the place for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline. How is that "not how you do it?" --DannyS712 (talk) 02:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't realize your note at WT:DYK was directing to WP:ANI; you asked for an "experienced editor" to help out. It's been five days since you posted that request. My experience is that the quickest way to get action is to request a DYK administrator to do it; they probably have been watching the discussion play out and are familiar enough with DYK rules to give a quick assessment. Yoninah (talk) 02:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: There is a backlog at ANRFC, but again, what do you mean that "only an administrator can close it"? Out of an abundance of caution, I posted to the centralized location where all closure requests usually go, so that it wouldn't seem that I chose the admin specifically because of how I thought they might close. (Silly, I know, but see the conversation about the example I used for the RfC) --DannyS712 (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was just sharing my experience. Both times I launched an RfC (and was laughed at for the way I formulated the question), I asked two different DYK administrators to close it, and they did it promptly. I know nothing else about the process. Best, Yoninah (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thanks. I'll give it a couple more days, and then maybe ask an admin at random --DannyS712 (talk) 02:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Baldwin Academy, Patna

Hi, I have made required changes. Can you please re-review this draft. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.160.28 (talk) 14:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 18:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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18:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

CfD closure

Thanks for closing this discussion! For info, when closing a discussion you are also supposed to remove the tags on the category page and to add an 'old CFD' template on the category talk page. More details see the CfD closure instructions. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle:

Done I added tags to each of the pages. Sorry, I used the XfD closer and I thought it did that automatically. Thanks for the reminder --DannyS712 (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #351

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Events
- Past: Linking OpenStreetMap and Wikidata at FOSDEM

Press, articles, blog posts
- Paper: Discovering Implicational Knowledge in Wikidata

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- There is now an experimental SPARQL service to query Wikidata history

Did you know?

Development
- Working on the "in more languages" and "all entered languages" parts of the termbox on mobile
- Working on making undo, revert, edit summaries and more work for Shape Expressions
- Fixed an error when detecting the same label and description in another Item (phabricator:T194770, thanks Matěj)
- Making Lemma input on Lexeme pages save your input when you press enter (phabricator:T206140)
- Making QuickStatements work more easily for other Docker-powered Wikibase instances (phabricator:T205606)
- Worked more on making Federation work for making Statements on Wikimedia Commons (phabricator:T214557)
- Working on stripping whitespaces at the beginning and end of Glosses when saving them (phabricator:T212019)
- Looking into adding more signals to ORES' vandalism detection model so we can detect bad edits more accurately (phabricator:T194737)
- Preventing a redirect of an Entity onto itself (phabricator:T214775)
- Fixed an issue with adding sitelinks from Wikimedia Commons (phabricator:T213975)
- Unified the separators between language and lexical category in different places (phabricator:T201808)

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 20:32, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RDs

Just a quick query, are you going to be nominating half a dozen RDs per day? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: No, I normally nominate one (at most). Its just that I saw a bunch, and nominated the 5 that looked mostly okay. I know that just nominating articles, even if they don't end up getting posted, increases their visibility and usually helps improve them. Did I do something wrong? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was just curious, it was out-of-ordinary behaviour. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Sorry. You're right - it is out-of-ordinary, including for me :) --DannyS712 (talk) 22:01, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know there was such a thing as an "ordinary" editor. I've pretty much assumed from the start that you are all nutz.

— The Transhumanist 03:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Point taken --DannyS712 (talk) 04:09, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flow to market

Thank you for notifying me of the proposed deletion of this article.

I don't really edit Wikipedia anymore, so I won't be expressing an opinion either way.

Best,

Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 23:50, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Agradman: No problem --DannyS712 (talk) 23:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

scripts, templates & more

Thank you for Alabama v. North Carolina, SCI footer, {{Alabama-election-stub}}, {{Mississippi-election-stub}}, {{Maine-election-stub}}, and more. Thanks for various helpful scripts, content reviewing, the scripts newsletter, and always being helpful!- you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: Wow thank you so much. I'm just happy to help --DannyS712 (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Whew that response time blew my socks off! But in all seriousness its great to see a (unless I'm mistaken) relatively new user contributing well, and wish you the best of luck in editing! Feel free to ask me for any advice you may need Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: Well I was in the middle of looking for something to edit (I'm addicted to wikipedia) and I saw your message. You're not mistaken - I am a "relatively new user," and I'm glad that my contributions have been well received. Thanks for the encouragement, and I'll be sure to reach out if I need any help. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Katharina Lindner

On 12 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Katharina Lindner, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christine Kay

Would you help me expand this page for DYK? We only need to reach 3900 characters to qualify. She died on Feb 5 but we missed it at ITN. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Coffeeandcrumbs: Sure, I can try --DannyS712 (talk) 04:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources: [3][4][5]. Minor mentions: [6][7]. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Coffeeandcrumbs: And [8]. Link 3 (adweek) requires a subscription, so I can't help with that --DannyS712 (talk) 05:03, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Christine+Kay""Christine+Kay" --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Adweek link: [9]. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Coffeeandcrumbs: Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 05:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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AFC/R

Hi, you mentioned me in an AFC discussion for the end of medium character but I can't find it so I figured I'd explain here. Before salting existed, we used this janky hack with cascading protection to do the same thing. Once salting was introduced, I used a bot to migrate all the old lists to the modern log system. So I really have no idea why that page was salted in the first place. :P — east718 | talk | 22:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have found the old lists at Wikipedia:Protected titles/Historical. So your answer is hiding somewhere in there. — east718 | talk | 22:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@East718: The request was removed, see this version of the page. Thanks for the explanation --DannyS712 (talk) 23:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well I have to thank you anyway for the trip down memory lane. Thank God we don't have to do dumb stuff like this anymore. — east718 | talk | 04:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@East718: Reading that just made my day

--DannyS712 (talk) 04:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Filter highlighter

Actually, I was going to ask you if you thought the CSS could be improved. I basically made that for people without private-filter privileges, because I always found that "You may not view details of this filter because it is hidden from public view." really annoying when there is public information about every filter (actions, last editor, number of hits, etc.) I'm trying to pack a lot of information into a small space with causing an obnoxious text shift. (And I'm not a graphic design type, to put it mildly...) So, any suggestions are welcome, or if you think you've come up with something really good, you can even just edit the unprotected copy, and if the doc page looks better, I'll sync it with the main version. If not, I'll revert. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Suffusion of Yellow: Sorry, didn't mean to jump the gun. If you add a user-rights check to the javascript, I can try to make a class to hide the private ones from people who can't read them. Either way, its still great --DannyS712 (talk) 01:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why would we want to hide it? There's valuable information in the tooltip for every user (yes? I checked in an alt account, and it seemed to work), and the red border should prevent you from clicking on the link by accident. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Suffusion of Yellow: I made another CSS class (see the page you linked to). For checking if the user can view private filters, I suggest modifying the code from User:Evad37/XFDcloser/v3.js:

if ( !config.mw.wgUserGroups.includes('extendedconfirmed') && !config.mw.wgUserGroups.includes('sysop') ) { console.log('[XFDcloser] User is not extendedconfirmed or sysop'); return; }

--DannyS712 (talk) 01:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not clear as to why that would help. The user knows what groups they are in (I hope), and will soon learn what the red border means: "Don't click here" if they're not privileged, or "Stop flapping your jaw" if they are. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Suffusion of Yellow: Yeah, but the border is a lot harder to notice than graying it out imo --DannyS712 (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll put in the change next time I modify the JS. Should help colorblind people anyway. And if someone puts this in their global.js (haven't tried that yet, may not work!), they may not remember what their rights are on the local wiki. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Suffusion of Yellow: True. Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 01:56, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closure

Cheers Danny, that's autocorrect for you! doktorb _words^deeds 08:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doktorbuk: no problem, but it wasn't just the {{about}}. Usually, the closure template is put below the section heading, you put it above; while that is okay, you put it on the same line as the header, which stopped it from working. Just an fyi, its no problem

--DannyS712 (talk) 08:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aaah. I used to be around ITN more often, touch rusty :) doktorb _words^deeds 09:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doktorbuk: Yeah, you might want to review how to CLOSE[D] ITN nominations --DannyS712 (talk) 09:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mass message sender – timestamp on messages

Hi. I'm relatively new to the MMS thing and thought I would share a little knowledge about that error message: "Your message does not include a timestamp or signature. This may prevent page archiving by bots."

Some of the bots which archive talk pages do so by the timestamp; if a section doesn't have a time stamp it will never get moved to an archive page and thus the main talk page could fill up with old newsletters (or whatever the mass message might be, but from habit I'm calling them "newsletters"). (Incidentally, if you want to keep a message or useful links at the top of your talk page, don't time stamp it and it won't get archived.)

A lot of people who write newsletters, though, won't sign with the four tildes, and it can also be a little misleading since that will be the time they saved the newsletter, not the time the newsletter was sent.

The advice I received was to manually add four tildes ~~~~ at the end of the message window at Special:MassMessage. This will timestamp for the time the newsletter was sent, with the sender being User:MediaWiki message delivery. This will appear outside of the newsletter box, if any. (Preview to make sure it looks alright.) Users can follow that link if they have issues with the delivery method or wish to global unsubscribe from mass messages. You can alternatively use something like <small>Sent by ~~~ on behalf of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject]] at ~~~~~.</small>

Just passing along some advice I received, FYI. Happy editing! – Reidgreg (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: Thanks for the tip! --DannyS712 (talk) 17:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another tip: mailing lists can be a page with user names, user talk pages, or a combination. This is described at mw:Help:Extension:MassMessage : Note that the default configuration will automatically convert all User pages into User talk pages - If you specify "User:Foo" in a delivery list, the message will be posted to "User talk:Foo". A user category can also be used. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:34, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: Oh, cool. Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail!

Hello, DannyS712. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is Link.
Message added 02:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Suffusion of Yellow: Ah, I see. Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 02:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:TheWikiWizard/February 2019 (Special Editon)

(PLEASE NOTE: THIS ISSUE WILL BE MAILED MANUALLY DUE TO THE SHEER LACK OF SIZE OF THIS NEWSPAPER. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE HERE TO RECIEVE THE NEWSLETTER. THANK YOU FOR READING THIS NOTICE.)

Hello, DannyS712! Here is the February 2019 (Special Edition) issue of TheWikiWizard.

What's Hot! (Votes Needed! Happy Valentines and Chinese New Year!)
Articles (Tips and More!)
Editor's Notes (Saving TWW from Deletion.....)
Activity Page (Fun Activities)
Ads (Ads)

Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Thegooduser: All of the links are redirects to redirects... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah Shit, that's because the page might have had an move error, please stand by...... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:52, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Sorry for the Inconvenience, but it's fixed now! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Thegooduser: Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 02:55, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Closing Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Indefinitely semiprotecting the refdesk...

I am working on it now at User:MattLongCT/sandbox2 if you would like to share your thoughts or give suggestions. Now that I am back to working on this, I would still like to co-close with you! :D ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 04:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Sorry, I'm leaving town tomorrow for a week, so I don't think I'm the right choice. But, if you want to be really WP:BOLD, you might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested/Archive 13#Testing an idea. Basically, you could semi-protect the refdesks (not allow !confirmed users to edit) while allowing them to try to edit (and record the attempt, like pending-changes) without using pending changes or creating the mess that results from highly trafficked pages. Just an idea --DannyS712 (talk) 05:02, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712 I will certainly keep that in mind! Many thanks for all your support so far as well! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 05:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The refdesks are saved. Woohoo! My faith in the community is restored.

— The Transhumanist 08:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #029, 13 Feb 2019

Where we are at:

Single-page portals: 4,704

Total portals: 5,705

The Ref desks survived the proposal to shut them down

You might be familiar with the Ref desks, by their link on every new portal. They are a place you can go to ask volunteers almost any knowledge-related question, and have been a feature of Wikipedia since August of 2005 (or perhaps earlier). They were linked to from portals in an effort to improve their visibility, and to provide a bridge from the encyclopedia proper to project space (the Wikipedia community).

Well, somebody proposed that we get rid of them, and the community decided that that was not going to happen. Thank you for defending the Ref desks!

Here's a link to the dramatic discussion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Indefinitely_semiprotecting_the_refdesk#Proposal_II:_Shut_down_the_Ref_Desks

The cleanup after sockpuppet Emoteplump continues...

The wake of disruption left by Emoteplump and the admins who reverted many (but not all) of his/her edits is still undergoing cleanup. We could use all the help we can get on this task...

Almost all of the speedy deleted portals have been rebuilt from scratch.

For the portals he/she restarted (many of which were done mistakenly, overwriting restarts and further development that had already been done), and/or tagged as the maintainer, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Emoteplump&oldid=881568794#Additional_Portals_under_my_watch

10,000 portals, here we come...

We're at 5,705 portals and counting.

New portals since issue #28

Prior to 2018, for the previous 14 years, portal creation was at about 80 portals per year on average. We did over 3 times that in just the past 9 days. At this rate, we'll hit the 10,000 portal mark in 5 months. But, I'm sure we can do it sooner than that.

What's next for portal pages?

There are 5 drives for portal development:

Create new portals
Expand existing portals, such as with new sections like Recognized content
Convert or restart old-style portals into automated single-page portals
Link to new portals from the encyclopedia
Pageless portals

Let's take a closer look at these...

1: Creating new portals

Portal creation, for subjects that happen to have the necessary support structures already in place, is down to about a minute per portal. The creation part, which is automated, takes about 10 seconds. The other 50 seconds is taken up by manual activities, such as finding candidate subjects, inspecting generated portals, and selecting the portal creation template to be used according to the resources available. Tools are under development to automate these activities as much as possible, to pare portal creation time down even more. Ten seconds each is the goal.

Eventually, we are going to run out of navigation templates to base portals off of. Though there are still thousands to go. But, when they do run out, we'll need an easy way to create more. A nav footer creation script.

Meanwhile, other resources are being explored and developed, such as categories, and methods to harvest the links they contain.

2: Expanding existing portals

The portal collection is growing, not only by the addition of new portals, but by further developing the ones we already have, by...

Improving and/or adding search parameters to better power the Did you know and In the news sections.
Adding more selected content sections, like Selected biographies.
Adding and maintaining Recognized content sections, via JL-Bot.
Adding pictures to the image slideshow.
Adding panoramic pics.
Categorizing portals.

More features will be added as we dream them up and design them. So, don't be shy, make a wish.

3: Converting old portals

By far the hardest and most time-consuming task we have been working on is updating the old portals, the very reason we revamped this WikiProject in the first place.

There are two approaches here:

A) Restart a portal from scratch, using our automated tools. For basic no-frills portals, that works find. But, for more elaborate portals, as that tends to lose content and features, the following approach is being tried...

B) Upgrade a portal section by section, so little to nothing is lost in the process.

4: Linking to new portals

Or "portal deorphanization"...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is purring along.

And a tool in the form of a script is under development for linking to portals at the time they are created, or shortly thereafter.

5...

See below...

New WikiProject for the post-saved-portal phase of operations...

Saved portals, are portals with a saved page.

What is the next stage in the evolutionary progression?

Quantum portals.

What are quantum portals?

Portals that come into existence when you click on the portal button, and which disappear when you leave the page.

Or, as Pbsouthwood put it:

...portals that exist only as a probability function (algorithm) until you collapse the wave form by observing through the portal button (run the script), and disappear again after use...

Introducing...

Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals (see it's talk page).

Keep on keepin' on

...'til next time, — The Transhumanist 10:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --DannyS712 (talk) 10:21, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand your question. Why the question mark? — The Transhumanist 10:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Scroll up - duplicated update --DannyS712 (talk) 10:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I sent it to you manually, in case you wanted to proofread it, before sending it to the mailing list, which I forgot to remove you from temporarily. — The Transhumanist 10:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protected SAG Infotech Page

{{ I created a page for SAG Infotech and I made some mistakes, I know the Wikipedia guidelines but unfortunately it happens. You have protected the SAG info tech page. I am requesting you to remove this page from the protection. I will create a new page as soon as possible considering Wiki Pedia Guidelines. I hope you understand the situation. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.}}

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivkumawat (talk • contribs) 06:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Shivkumawat: Unfortunately, I was not the one to protect the creation of the page. The user that did that was @DGG. However, before you request creation I suggest you improve the draft that you made (Draft:SAG Infotech) in order to demonstrate its notability. If it is reviewed and the "rejection" is retracted, then its likely the protection would be removed. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:12, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Module:Bots

Module:Bots has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery: Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 07:06, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Sam Bass (artist)

On 17 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Sam Bass (artist), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 22:13, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2019)

Mixian rice noodles being cooked on a gas stove at a noodle restaurant in Kunming, Yunnan, China

Hello, DannyS712.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Gas stove

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Wikidata weekly summary #352

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Discussions
- Open request for adminship: NewDataB
- New request for comments: semi-protection to prevent vandalism on most used Items, Allow for Wikidata items to be created that only link to a single Wikimedia Commons category (Wikidata notability discussion)

Events
- February 19th: Wikidata meetup in London - Facebook event
- February 21st to 24th: International Mother Language Day edit-a-thon
- February 23rd: editathon about Parliament of Ghana in Accra - Registration
- March 28th: GLAM & Wikidata day in Switzerland (registration running until March 18th)

Press, articles, blog posts
- Let’s Tango: Computational Musicology Using Wikidata, MusicBrainz and the Wolfram Language, by Toni Schindler

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Got some time? Add QIDs to the tools on Edit items, Query data, Enhance user interface, Visualize data, Lexicographical data, For programmers and List of properties. If some tools don't have their own Items, feel free to create them.
- Hardware issues at Toolforge and CloudVPS affect lots of tools and coincide with changes in the statement stats dynamics
- WikibaseCirrusSearch will become a Mediawiki extension
- You can still help Shani Evenstein with her research: Wikidata as a Learning Platform

Did you know?

Development
- Improve the tools dropdown on query.wikidata.org, which now links Tools categories and the Toolforge (phabricator:T214577)
- Implement the diff view for Schemas (phabricator:T214396, phabricator:T215514)
- Implement undo for Schemas (phabricator:T214914)
- Prevent redirecting an entity to itself (phabricator:T214775)
- Make pressing enter when editing a lemma save the lemma (phabricator:T206140)
- Strip whitespace around sense glosses (phabricator:T212019)
- Create LilyPond datatype (phabricator:T215284)
- More work to get the new version of the termbox readable on mobile

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Let’s Talk

What’s the reason of banning the account which is eligible of having the space on Wikipedia.

It’s not at all the issue with the name I have contributed may be some problem arised by few new wiki editors

Please sort out — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenifer Intiha (talk • contribs) 16:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jenifer Intiha: I'm afraid I don't understand what this is about - can you explain? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my contribution

I had created an article about an artist but it was really surprising to see you deleted it. With out any reason ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenifer Intiha (talk • contribs) 22:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my contribution

I had created an article about an artist but it was really surprising to see you deleted it. With out any reason ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenifer Intiha (talk • contribs) 22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jenifer Intiha: If you are referring to Draft:Jaan Nissar Lone, I'll note that I was not the one to delete it - it was deleted by @RHaworth, Bbb23, and Fastily for various reasons. At this point, there is nothing I can do to help you, but you seem to have recreated the draft. I'll note that, since the most recent deletions were under WP:G5, it may be deleted again, part of the reason I pinged the admins who deleted it --DannyS712 (talk) 01:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [10]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [11]

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ITN recognition for George Cawkwell

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ITN recognition for Peter Wells (director)

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Grabbing categories?

Is there an easy way to grab the categories that an article is in? That is, the category tags on an article? I was wondering if there was an API shortcut for this. — The Transhumanist 04:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: See mw:API:Categories. Is there a script you want? --DannyS712 (talk) 04:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you'd never ask.

See below. — The Transhumanist 20:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Script request

A menu item on the tools menu (tb) that appears while user is on a portal base page (not on a subpage). When the menu item is clicked, the script gets the non-hidden categories from the corresponding root article page, and appends them to the portal, minus duplicates. That is, it appends the subject categories from the article of the same name as the portal.

In addition to the above, the script should provide a pipe at the end of each category, so that the portal is sorted under the title and not "p" (for Portal). We don't want the portals displaying under "P".

Sounds like something you could program in 15 minutes. — The Transhumanist 19:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Probably. I'll try to get to it later today --DannyS712 (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. — The Transhumanist 19:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have you taken a look at this yet? It's doable, right? — The Transhumanist 08:34, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: take a look at User:DannyS712 test/copycat.js for a start --DannyS712 (talk) 05:25, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is cool you are on the case. So, I tried it out on Portal:Astrology, but nothing happened. — The Transhumanist 07:32, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: Open the console (f12) and it should print out the categories that Astrology is in. I could have it just add all of the those, but so far it doesn't edit because a: sort keys; b: consensus is needed; and c: do we really want to include every single category? (and d: detecting if the category is already on the portal's page) --DannyS712 (talk) 07:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try it and will get back to you. Thank you. — The Transhumanist 00:00, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to us about talking

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

First, sign up your group here.
Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting low-participation AfD for 3rd time with no rationale

I noticed you relisted a low-participation no-!vote AfD discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HaLo) for the 3rd time without providing a rationale. Since even admins are discouraged from relisting for a third time, and the guidelines strongly suggest leaving a reason in any 3rd relist, I was hoping you could explain your reasoning for relisting the discussion rather than leaving it for an admin to close. Thanks. Bakazaka (talk) 18:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just noticed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beno Dorn and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamko as well. Same request. Bakazaka (talk) 18:10, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bakazaka: I relisted the first 2 of them because they had absolutely no discussion. I added a rational for the third. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Low participation is a reason to leave it for an admin to close, since an admin can close it as "delete" by treating it as an expired PROD. Please do not relist low to no-participation AfDs a third time. See WP:RELISTBIAS for a helpful guide. Bakazaka (talk) 18:36, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bakazaka: Will (not) do. Sorry about that --DannyS712 (talk) 18:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Casting a deciding vote is more productive than relisting anything most of the time. But ya expired PROD like deletion is good too . Legacypac (talk) 19:20, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac: Good to know --DannyS712 (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is not "constructive" about my change?

What exactly is not "constructive" about my change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.10.41.142 (talk) 22:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:YOUTUBE --DannyS712 (talk) 22:44, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That does not cover the change I made. Try again. 91.10.41.142 (talk) 22:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It does. See the entire guideline on external links. But, if you still consider the video to be proper and add it back, I will not remove it --DannyS712 (talk) 22:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It does not. You should stop using automatic editing tools, you are way to sloppy with them. 91.10.41.142 (talk) 22:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, but if you would like to request that an uninvolved administrator remove my rights, go right ahead. I believe that I did not misuse my rights, nor misuse semi-automatic editing tools --DannyS712 (talk) 23:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, are you lawyering up? You should maybe start reflecting your actions, not putting up a defensive screen. 91.10.41.142 (talk) 23:25, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ELNO - In other words, the site should not merely repeat information that is already or should be in the article. - I do not believe that the link was appropriate. I am not trying to "lawyer up"; we simply disagree, I agreed not to remove the link again, and yet you continue to argue about the link saying that I should stop using automatic editing tools since I am way to [sic] sloppy with them despite my explanation of how I considered the link to be improper. Even if we disagree, that doesn't make me "sloppy." Please assume good faith; I'm not lawyering up, I'm just trying to diffuse the situation. --DannyS712 (talk) 23:30, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not, it's a source, and it does contain a lot that's not in the article. Maybe it "should", if you want to replace the article with a transcript. Actually, with a video, since visuals are important.

You still don't know what my problem really is, since it's obviously not what you have in mind. You have no interest in learning, so asking me never occurred to you. Well, maybe I misjudge you, so here is an opportunity to learn: You changed more than the Youtube link in your sloppy use of an automatic editing tool. 91.10.41.142 (talk) 23:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for adding the "e" back. I didn't see that when I was looking at the huggle page, and after I checked the youtube page and saw that, imo, it didn't meet the requirements for inclusion, I reverted the change. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding --DannyS712 (talk) 23:40, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Youtube video is advertising. It should have been removed. Legacypac (talk) 23:46, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In what way is the Youtube video more advertising than any other source? 91.10.41.142 (talk) 00:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) To start with, the giant logo of the auction house in the background, and the bit at the end where he encourages viewers to visit the catalog of said auction house and buy the gun. Granted, he's not shouting "BUY NOW FOR ONLY 19.95" every minute, but it's still basically a subtle infomerical, IMO. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bullshit. This is an auction three years ago, the guns are long sold. The video even mentions the prices. 91.10.4.115 (talk) 07:37, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not inclined to add it, but you should feel free to bring it up on the talk page of the article --DannyS712 (talk) 22:33, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations~!!

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For all your work that you do to while contributing to this project and mostly recently closing Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal. WP:ANRFC pretty much has no backlog because of your work! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 23:54, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: I think you have more to do with eliminating the backlog that I do, but thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully DannyS712, you pretty much do the best WP:GNOME work on this project. I also swear we should start a ~~cabal~~ joke cabal/Silly WikiProject with Levivich because all of us do a lot of {{NAC}} closings. We could call it like the Rouge NAC Closers. Also, your closings are generally for things that no one else would be willing to nor capable of doing. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: I only do them because if I try to help with something more contentious, I'll be reminded that I've only been here for <6 months. But, any chance I can help with macedonia? I've been watchlisting it since day 1, but haven't contributed because I think I can aid in the closure, and I know nothing personally about macedonia. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:05, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, I recommend if you are in a position of helping to close it that you do a few things: (1) Read the Arbitration case history, talk page history, etc. [Everything you can, not about the subject of Macedonia, but how Wikipedia has interacted with it] (2) mask the names of users who've contributed when reading the main RfC [It helps avoid WP:UNDUE in your close since you may be biased by your relationships with certain editors] (I did this here [12] -- I did it by hand, but maybe you could make a userscript for it?), (3) re-read Wikipedia:Non-admin closure and pay special attention to WP:NACINV and WP:NACPIT, and (4) don't let other editors tell you that you are not experienced. I effectively have only 2 months of active experience on Wikipedia, but I closed the Refdesk RfC. You just gotta Be bold. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:22, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PS, not knowing anything about Macedonia will probably be considered a plus. (edit conflict) ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:24, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Society of Non-Administrative Closers a.k.a. Snackers? Danny I just installed like half of your scripts – thanks! Leviv ich 02:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Levivich, you were doing this, too?! I was installing them right before you said that. Also, WP:Snackers sounds pretty nice tbh. Danny, what is the one that makes you close things so fast? ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 02:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: I mean, I'm going pretty slow. I'll try to make a script to help with masking the names of contributors, which should make contentious debates easier to close objectively, but other than than, idk --DannyS712 (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Maybe a fork of User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter would do it - even if it doesn't actually change the signatures, it would be pretty easy to hide them. I want to see if I can have it replace signatures with "EDITOR A" (b, c, etc) throughout the entirety of a discussion to make it clear when people refer to each other, but just blanking the signature should be trivial. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:44, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very interested in what you come up with! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 04:15, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RFPP (protection levels)

I see you are kind of new on Wikipedia, and maybe I can help you figure out the protection levels.

First of all, there are very few Template Editors. Category:Wikipedia template editors. And what that means, is that when something is template-protected, only admins and those specific template-editors can edit something. RFC Template editor user right may also be helpful to see how this class of protection came about.

You might find Wikipedia:Protection policy helpful. There's a table there. Sometimes I have to go back and look at that table myself, because the different protections levels can be confusing.

I encourage your efforts to improve Wikipedia. Sometimes it's good to know how some of it all fits together. So keep up the good work. — Maile (talk) 00:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Maile66: I've read through all of those - I'm not that new, and I like reading through the archives. I just thought that, in light of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive306#Bot proposal: automatically protect high-risk templates and modules, the templates and modules I added at RFPP could be pre-emptively protected for the same reasons. I realize that I made a mistake, and I'm sorry; thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 01:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK. You just showed me something new. I had not seen the Bot proposal you linked. Thanks for letting me know. — Maile (talk) 01:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Maile66: Yeah, I just assumed that, since the BRFA has been filed and finished a trial (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MusikBot II 3), the consensus was that stuff like this could be protected (the original discussion didn't have an official close, so I'm just inferring the consensus) --DannyS712 (talk) 01:30, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Gatwick Airport drone incident

Hello! Your submission of Gatwick Airport drone incident at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset:

Done sorry it took so long --DannyS712 (talk) 04:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/EFFPH

Hi Danny, you may be interested in this script. The dev version is at User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/EFFPH/dev.js. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or found any problems with it. Thanks. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 13:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thanks - i'll check it out when I have time --DannyS712 (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: when you moved the sandbox you didn't update the code to enable the script there. Also, could you add a "cancel" button, key shortcuts (ctrl-enter & esc) for both done and cancel, and maybe a preview options? Regardless, I'm sure the current script will be very useful. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 19:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, maybe tomorrow. Thanks for your suggestions. The block function still needs to be tested by sysops (I don't know why this script doesn't work on testwiki where I'm a sysop). ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 14:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: No worries; thanks for the great script --DannyS712 (talk) 17:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question

Why is it necessary for you to "review" pages in my userspace? {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:36, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery: its not really, but they show up in Special:NewPagesFeed like all user pages do, and so when I looked at your page I also marked it as reviewed so that another NPR wouldn't needed to look at it --DannyS712 (talk) 19:38, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Overwriting

Sorry about that Danny. Both my phone and tablet no longer work on Wikipedia as well as they used to, this new editing process is unworkable. doktorb _words^deeds 20:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doktorbuk: No problem, hope you get it sorted out --DannyS712 (talk) 20:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2019)

A cheeseburger at a restaurant

Hello, DannyS712.

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Cheeseburger

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nac

This seems hard to reconcile with the guideline that non-admins should not close potentially controversial AfDs. Not only were the !votes close, but there was canvassing involved and a hotly controversial topic at that. I don't think there's much chance of it being deleted, but I'd think any close would involve more detail/explanation than just keep or delete, too. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rhododendrites: I'll add a full explanation now --DannyS712 (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rhododendrites:

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I stand by the first point, though. There's just no need for a non-admin to close something controversial. Nothing personal. Just that at best, it's no different than an admin doing it; at worst, it adds a layer of complications that takes additional time to sort out and/or undermines the legitimacy of the close. That said, I don't intend on following up with a DRV or anything -- I didn't form a strong opinion one way or the other myself, and it doesn't seem like a good use of everyone's time to chase a keep into a no consensus... — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rhododendrites: I'm sorry if I overstepped; I'll be more careful with potentially controversial closes in the future (i.e. try to avoid them). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worry. Thanks for helping out at AfD. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to post a different question about RfC (was skimming through to make sure it hadn't already been asked of you) but while I think nac are fine or great in many circumstances, most non-sysops don't close AfD except for keep, no consensus, and relist. This then tilts them towards these outcomes, if only subconsciously. This is why i don't think, outside of SNOW keeps, NAC at AfD should be a thing. There's an essay around that I read which makes this point better than I am but I can't find it at the moment. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: If you find the essay later, please share it with me. Otherwise, I've responded below about the RfC --DannyS712 (talk) 03:43, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712 It's Wikipedia:Relist bias which focuses on RELISTs but actually comments about NAC AfD closures more generally with it's core point (emphasis added): Non-admins are welcome and encouraged to close deletion discussions, but they're unable to close most XfDs as "delete". Because of this, it's possible to intentionally or unintentionally develop a bias toward alternative outcomes, such as relisting. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:06, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: Thanks. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #353

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Discussions
- New request for comments: Talk pages consultation 2019 (feel free to add more sub-sections)

Events
- Past: Wikidata hackathon in Ulm with Open Knowledge Foundation. Video of the presentation of the projects (in German)
- Running until March 2nd: International Mother Language Day edit-a-thon
- Upcoming: Wikidata and the Diversity of Knowledge workshop in Graz, Austria, on March 3rd
- Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in Berlin, March 12th
- Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in Paris, March 15th
- Upcoming: Wikidata & Wikipedia workshop in Aberdeen, Scotland, on March 19th

Press, articles, blog posts
- Inside the Alexa-Friendly World of Wikidata, by Tom Simonite on Wired
- Align BNF's video games and Wikidata with Dataiku DSS (in French) by Envel Le Hir

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- If you're using Wikidata's data dumps, you may want to give feedback on a potential change about when those dumps are generated (ticket)
- Some games and tools developed during the Wikidata hackathon in Ulm:
  - Card game generator
  - Multiplayer game Guess the (German) Politician
  - Telegram bot @WikidataMisfitBot, sending pictures with one wrong label
  - WikiProjekt offeneregister.de
- If you're developing new tools or hear about new tools, please add them to Wikidata:Tools so other people can find them :)

Did you know?

Development
- Updated some icons with the new WikimediaUI icon set (phab:T209259)
- Fixed an issue that was causing occasional failures when creating new Items (phab:T194299)
- Investigated Wikidata Tours not loading correctly (phab:T215919)
- Adjusted spacing between Sense ID, bar and Gloss (phab:T215502)
- Fixing a long time issue with introducing new data types in production (phab:T216728)
- Fixing docs for backup of wikibase container images (phab:T214941)
- Making undo, rollback and restore work on schema content pages (phab:T214399)
- Improving edit summaries for schema content pages (phab:T213724)
- Tightening up the process for editing "identifying information" for Schemas (phab:T214466)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

February 2019 GOCE blitz bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to DannyS712 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 1,999 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE February 2019 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 21:05, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: thanks for such a fun introduction to the GOCE --DannyS712 (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's a pretty supportive group. Our March drive is set up if you think you'd like to do more (hint, hint). – Reidgreg (talk) 21:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: Thanks, I'll try to join the drive --DannyS712 (talk) 21:32, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions. [13]

Changes later this week

When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [14]
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21:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Lists

List of Historic Hotels of America moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, List of Historic Hotels of America, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:12, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of Ophir Award winners moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, List of Ophir Award winners, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:12, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists

Hi DannyS712, Greetigns to you. Pls note that Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists do need sources to support the contain claimed (even they have pages in Wikipedia) just like any other article in Wikipedia. Group source is acceptable and source would be in any languages. Pls provide inline citations prior resubmit for review. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:16, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: Thanks for the notes. I was just converting categories to lists as the result of CFDs. I'll prepare them better first in the future. However, would it be okay if I don't "resubmit [them] for review" once I source them? I didn't realize that I was supposed to source them whet it was just links to pre-existing articles, but now that I know that I think I can judge if their sourced enough (NPR, AfC). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 02:28, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DannyS712, OK. You could move the page back to main space once you have added the source. Also, do an a brief WP:LEAD section on top of the pages. Thank you and have a wonderful day. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: Will do. Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Hi Danny and MattLongCT. I've recently become more interested in doing more closures of RfCs and have watchlisted Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure. I have been surprised to see what a large percentage of overall closes you two have been doing. Not surprised in a bad way, just surprised in a "I wouldn't have thought that's how it worked" way. In that same vein of wonder, I ponder if there are any dangers with that. The whole point of an RfC closure is that any non-involved editor would reach the same conclusion and I'm not questioning any of your closures per se. I just speculate (tinged with a hint of worry) about the effects of two editors closing so many different RfCs. Policy is practice and even if the outcome of an RfC is clear the wording of a closing can have a real impact on how the result of the RfC is carried out and so whatever perspective you two bring to the project, and again I am not suggesting there's anything wrong or bad with it just that we all have a perspective, it is now being suffused broadly and subtly. Does that make sense? Can you tell me how I'm offbase? I raise the question truly not as a criticism of your having done this but really because I'm not sure (tinged with a bit of worry by that state of unsureness) what it means to have two editors closing so many different RfCs. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: Hi Barkeep49, and thanks for sharing your concern. I'll note that I (and I'm sure Matt does as well) do my very best to leave all potential biases at home when I start looking at a closure. I'll note that my off-wiki experience, which I'd rather not go into detail about (sorry), has IMO given me a good basis for assessing consensus in discussions. If there is any RfC that you have specific questions (or concerns) about, I'm more than happy to discuss them with you. Hopefully this allays your concerns. Best, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712 it doesn't because it's not a criticism of you or Matt. Let me try and layout my question a bit more clearly. My question is what hidden drawbacks, if any, are there to having two editors being the judges of consensus at so many RfCs? Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:55, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: Well I guess if I just disappear without warning all of the work would fall on Matt, and vice-versa; if we both just vanished (WP:VOLUNTEER) you would be left with huge backlogs... [end humour] I don't think there are any hidden drawbacks, since RfCs are independent of each other; closing one has (almost always) no effect on closing another. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity Danny, how many closes have you done and how many times have you been taken to DRV? Leviv ich 04:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Levivich: I have never been taken to DRV (though see #nac above for the closest I've come so far). I was taken to move review after my first RM close (funny enough, my first edits to WP:ANRFC were related to that RM) and was heartily endorsed (see Stokes' theorem at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2018 December). I don't know how many closes I've done - closes of everything? RfCs? XfDs? RMs? what are you asking about specifically (I've made dozens of "closes" at WP:ITN/C for stale nominations...) --DannyS712 (talk) 04:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Interceptions:

{\frac {overturned\ closes}{closes}}

Incomplete passes:

{\frac {questioned\ closes}{closes}}

Overall quarterback rating:

{\frac {closes-overturned\ closes-questioned\ closes}{closes}}

Think of being an RM-administrator as something like a quarterback. Your goal is to improve your "quarterback rating". Successfully closed RMs, which nobody objects to, are like completed passes; they increase your rating. Editors complaining on your talk page are like incomplete passes. Being taken to Move Review is like a pass that is almost intercepted, having your close overturned at Move Review, that's a "pick 6". Really bad for your rating.
— User:wbm1058

I would count "close" as any reviewable close. (I saw this on someone else's talk page and it stuck with me.) Leviv ich 04:55, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Levivich:

Interceptions: 0
Incomplete: 7 (ish)
- User talk:DannyS712/Archive 1#Stale - not a real incomplete, just a question
- User talk:DannyS712/Archive 1#Inappropriate close - see Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/November 2018#(Closed) Anchorage earthquake
- User talk:DannyS712/Archive 1#Consensus not to move? - endorsed at move review
- User talk:DannyS712/Archive 2#AfD closes - I just misread times, nothing serious
- User talk:DannyS712#CfD closure - not questioned per se
- User talk:DannyS712#Relisting low-participation AfD for 3rd time with no rationale
- User talk:DannyS712#nac
Overall: Lots, I'd really rather not count them all

--DannyS712 (talk) 05:09, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barkeep49, you know I have actually thought about this quite a bit. Unlike Danny, I have waded into some more contentious discussions. I sometimes wonder if people will begin to discount the legitimacy of my closings because I do them so often. My conclusion has thus far been that I should really be concerned about the opposite. I fear a possible future where people give extra weight to a closure just because I was the one to close it. Thus I take extra precautions when deciding which discussions to close. However, to your main point, I have found that as the work of admins becomes more unequally divided, that they must face these questions too. If you look back, a lot of discussions were historically closed by not a lot of users. It's a weird phenomenon to say the least. ―MattLongCT -Talk-^☖ 05:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Hey (faux angry tone) - I can close contentious discussions too! --DannyS712 (talk) 05:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MattLongCT Thanks. That's a really thoughtful answer to my question. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 06:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49 and MattLongCT: +1 - yeah, its a really good explanation that I wouldn't have been able to articulate --DannyS712 (talk) 06:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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DoNotArchiveUntil tags

Hi DannyS712, and thanks for closing so many discussions at WP:RFCL. It's great to see less than 10 discussions in the backlog.

I'd like to bring your attention to the {{Do not archive until}} tag, which is sometimes inserted into discussions on highly active noticeboards and talk pages to prevent them from being automatically archived before they are closed. If a DoNotArchiveUntil tag is in a discussion that needs to be closed, please try to remove these tags after closing the discussion. An in-page search for "DoNotArchiveUntil" should quickly reveal it in your web browser.

For example, two WP:RSN discussions had DoNotArchiveUntil tags that looked like this. The "TO CLOSER" part was manually added by me, but the User:DoNotArchiveUntil line is what prevents the discussion from being archived.

Thanks! — Newslinger talk 11:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Danny: I apologize for not writing a note in User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/DiscussionCloser that reminds users that the script does not automatically remove RfC or DoNotArchiveUntil tags and I've added it just now. Hope I can add this feature to the script in the future. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 12:15, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Newslinger and Abelmoschus Esculentus: AE, no need to apologize, your script has been exceedingly helpful. Newslinger, thanks for the note, I'll be sure to do that in the future. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo de la Peña Topete

Cgherrera (talk) 20:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DannyS712, I have added the necessary references to the page I have been working on for Dr. Guillermo de la Peña Topete (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Guillermo_de_la_Pe%C3%B1a_Topete). Could you please check that it is alright please? It was deleted because I had not worked on it for the past 6 months, I would like to have it published. Thank you CgherreraCgherrera (talk) 20:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cgherrera: If you would like to submit the draft to be published, please see WP:AFC. But, I see that the draft is written in spanish, not in english, so I can tell you now that it won't be accepted. However, if you translate it into English, that solves the problem, or you can try to add it to the spanish version of wikipedia (es.wikipedia.org). Also, if you want to recover the work you had before it was deleted, just follow the directions at WP:Requests for undeletion/G13. Hope this helps, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Recent attempted edit to the page "Juggernaut (comics)"

You had said to inform you if I had a source for my addition of Juggernaut's legal name. My source is Deadpool 2. The timestamp for the information is 1:25:02 when Juggernaut says "LetsFuckSomeShitUp is my legal middle name." Hence, his full legal name must be Cain LetsFuckSomeShitUp Marko. 162.247.87.105 (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the movie, but without a reliable source that he was being serious I'm inclined to think that it was a joke. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being a contributor

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