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Leland Wright

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Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. The only sources currently in the article are either blogs or are primary to the teams the subject played for, and I can't find anything better to support notability. Let'srun (talk) 17:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Eli Lockaby

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Subject lacks the necessary WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. Let'srun (talk) 17:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samira Awad

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Clear fail of GNG. Lacks WP:SIGCOV Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Nehme1499 Are there not more sources? From her stats she looks like she should be an important part of the history of the Lebanon national woman's team. Govvy (talk) 18:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo Bárcena

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Fails in WP:GNG, only 4 professional matches for clubs of third level in Spain and Greece. Svartner (talk) 00:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:54, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, not even a claim to notability. Geschichte (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Taka SC

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It this a notable location? Right now this is unreferenced (WP:V failure, single EL to Facebook...). On pl wiki some editors tried to create an entry with some refs, but there is confusion whether they talk about the same entity, or different... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I at least wanted to point out that this article is about a football club, not a "location". (I have no opinion on the article or its current lack of sourcing.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wcquidditch Good catch, I came here via interwiki to Stade Al-Taka Kassala which redirects here, but yes, the club itself is just as bad, GNG-wise. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:44, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Ngouba Singh

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Ngouba Singh had a very brief career and I can't find any evidence of a WP:GNG or a WP:SPORTBASIC pass. He doesn't seem to have played since 2015 so not likely to have any notability in the future either so no point in sending to draft space. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lalrinchhana Tochhawng

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Poorly sourced BLP with no indication of passing WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. The closest thing to significant coverage in my searches was Inkhel, which is a brief transfer announcement. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:03, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ningthoujam Samananda

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Footballer with a very short career and no sign of meeting WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. The best that I can find is Mumbai Mirror, which is standard match report coverage rather than anything that we can build a biography from. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:27, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Barlow

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It appears the highest level the subject played for was the third tier of American soccer and he had a brief and non-notable career. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Barlow

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The highest level the subject played at was the third tier of American soccer, failing to make an appearance in MLS. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:23, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stephan Barea

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Barea earned a single cap for Puerto Rico, but otherwise had an insignificant career, the highest level he played at was the fourth tier of the United States. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Syd Protheroe

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Biography of a footballer, not properly sourced as passing WP:NSPORT. As always, footballers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to be shown to achieve certain notability benchmarks supported by WP:GNG-worthy third-party reliable source coverage about their careers -- but this literally just states that he existed without saying anything about his career above and beyond the simple fact of existing, and is referenced to two unreliable source directory entries that aren't support for notability and a brief mention of his name in a book on the overall "official history" of one team he played for, which isn't enough to get him over GNG all by itself.
As I don't have access to archived British media coverage from the 1930s, I'd be happy to withdraw this if somebody who does have such access can find better sourcing with which to say more about him than just "he was a player who existed, the end", but simple existence isn't "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from needing better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:01, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for your reasoning.--Burroughs'10 (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article is only three days old, did you not consider asking the creator to improve the article first? I did struggle to find sources, I found his name on an old archive score card here, but from whats written on vintagefootballers.com there could be some stuff to look up. He was then called up to WW2, so he might also have information on him from that time. I'd have to say, just because you can't find stuff on the internet doesn't mean there isn't offline resources like the old newspapers. I wouldn't call this an open and shut case. Govvy (talk) 18:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for the reasons stated by the nominator and lack of anything I can find independently from my own searching. The argument put forward that the article is only three days old so should be kept is illogical. It should have been researched properly before being published. As for "he was in WW2 so there must be coverage", that's nonsense too as millions of people were involved in WW2 without getting any media coverage for their efforts. Finally you can't just say "there must be offline coverage", you have to prove it or at least show it is more likely then not and even then offline coverage still needs to meet the SIGCOV threshold, not just be brief mentions in a match report or a line about a transfer to a new club. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Anxioustoavoid: You should read what I wrote again, because one, I never said the article should be kept, two I said there maybe possible coverage of his time in WW2, and three, there will be offline coverage of him, maybe you need to also read what you wrote!! Govvy (talk) 22:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There "will be offline coverage" because you said so. Righto. Good stuff. Nice use of exclamation marks by the way. Always adds to the gravitas of a discussion. I've read what I wrote and I'm quite happy with it thanks. It's only an online discussion about an online article about a bloke who's been deceased 43 years. Try not to get too worked up. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am curious, you're previous account was Renamed user ac8ad20534e6799c8dc59f4ac091f579 account (obviously a changed username) which is globally locked. That was only there for six months. And before that? Are you some kind of professional sock? Govvy (talk) 08:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I owe you an explanation but here it is. I asked for my previous account to be closed after getting really mad one day over an issue with a user who was clearly using multiple accounts and IP addresses to continually incorrectly change a group of boxers nationalities and no-one would intervene to stop this. I lost my head so to speak and quit, then decided to come back with this account a few weeks later. Never had an account before then. Going to attack the editor because you can't attack my argument I presume? Another thing which factored into my quitting Wikipedia previously. My username refers to me being anxious to avoid all the pettiness on Wikipedia but it seems I have become embroiled in it for a second time. Partly my fault for engaging with you I accept but there we go. I will not be engaging further with you so say/do what you like. As you will see from my edit history - which since you went to the effort of tracking down my previous account I'm sure you have already looked at - I'm not exactly prolific on here so if it makes you happy to seek to have me banned then go right ahead. I won't fight it and you can get a warm feeling inside. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 10:23, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:49, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Sias

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Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only references in the article are primary and I couldn't find anything better elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 12:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:52, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Pena

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3 professional appearances, nothing on the Romanian wikipedia. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete I had a look at the Romanian wiki and nothing really there either apart from it says Roma actually loaned him to Dinamo București only for them to shove him in their reserve squad. He was then sold to Bari from Roma but didn't really make any success. And there is a retirement post. What I found was pretty much WP:ROUTINE and no where near enough to show WP:GNG. So I honestly don't see enough unless someone proves me wrong. Govvy (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of WP:SIGCOV. I just found this. Svartner (talk) 22:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Could not find any SIGCOV. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 13:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Iike

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Previously nominated. 6 professional league appearances, hasn't played since 2014. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 16:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Barajas

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The subject appears to have played at the highest level for the developmental team of Atlanta United before eventually going to the fourth tier of German football where he is no longer listed as a member of the team. He may have possibly retired. https://lsk-hansa.de/mannschaften/1-herren-landesliga-lueneburg/ WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Yet more non-notable footyspam. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Barajas

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The subject appears to have only played four games for LA Galaxy's developmental team before switching to collegiate soccer and then afterwards he does not appear to have signed with any team. The article seems to have been made with the expectation that the subject would be notable. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Career sadly did not pan out. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 17:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Banks (American soccer)

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The subject appears to have only played a single season in the third tier of American soccer before possibly retiring from the sport. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't look to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Virgara

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The only piece of in-depth coverage that came up in my searches was this transfer announcement. I am unable to access it (might be dead) but even if it were WP:SIGCOV, it would not be enough to meet WP:GNG without at least another quality source. JTtheOG (talk) 00:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nomination. Luis7M (talk) 00:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: All refs fail WP:SIRS, so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 23:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nomination. Lijil (talk) 16:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AC Horatiana Venosa ASD

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Football club that fails WP:GNG. No significant coverage was found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, resided low in the pyramid, no notability or references indicated. Geschichte (talk) 19:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Could possible be able to pass GNG, however I don't see it. I don't know Italian or how to search for sources. On what's available it's a delete unless someone can provide the sources to change my mind. Regards. Govvy (talk) 21:51, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete the name is "Oraziana Venosa" if it helps looking for sources. I could only find some local coverage about the club closing and nothing more [1][2]. Not enough WP:SIGCOV Broc (talk) 14:26, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Search for sources finds very little mention of the subject, only a page with rankings and some links to the existing Wiki page (including its Vietnamese translation) Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:38, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wigan Athletic F.C. 8–0 Hull City A.F.C.

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Appears to fail WP:SPORTSEVENT. While an extraordinary scoreline given the circumstances in my (admittedly non-neutral) opinion, the result has no lasting impact or significance, and I was unable to find any coverage other than in the immediate aftermath of the game. J Mo 101 (talk) 17:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Certainly worthy of a note on Wigan and Hull records pages and even the Championship league page and mention on season articles. Notable enough, however this does not need a match day article. Govvy (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per WP:NEVENT: "A game that is widely considered by independent reliable sources to be notable, outside routine coverage of each game, especially if the game received front page coverage outside of the local areas involved." It is necessary to demonstrate repercussions/impact after the match, not just impressions that occurred immediately afterwards (WP:LASTING). Every match with a large goal difference generates immediate repercussions and this in itself is not notable. Svartner (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete no evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage in the almost 5 years since the match. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to 2019–20 Wigan Athletic F.C. season as possible search term. Giant Snowman 18:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2019–20 Wigan Athletic F.C. season as an ATD. मल्ल (talk) 04:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't personally support this redirect, as there are multiple places it is mentioned e.g. also the Hull season article. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's illogical to redirect to a Wigan season page, as Joseph points out we also have 2019–20 Hull City A.F.C. season and other locations. No consideration for the search feature on wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 08:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Having multiple suitible redirect targets is not a valid reason to choose neither and delete anyway. Frank Anchor 19:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's mentioned more prominently in the lede of the Wigan article but I wouldn't be opposed to a delete and leaving it to search. मल्ल (talk) 11:25, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and selective merge to 2019–20 Wigan Athletic F.C. season. Unusual score of a game makes it a reasonable search term. Open to another target if a better option comes up. Frank Anchor 19:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ithamar Romanos

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Clear fail of GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources (such as [3]) are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 16:05, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Just one is too little for WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I suppose the one source in the comment above is fine, but that's all we have .I can't find any about this individual, so this fails notability requirements by not having enough coverage in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 01:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aristelle Luise Yog-Atouth

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Contested prod. The added references do not meet GNG or represent significant coverage. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no significant coverage. (Of added sources: source 5 - database entry, S6, S7, S10 - some kind of standard game update/PR notice with no significant info on this person, S8 - voting results, S9 - rankings, none of which show WP:SIGCOV.) A search didn't turn up anything much better; just a lot of stats. GoldRomean (talk) 02:40, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reiss-Alexander Russell-Denny

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unnotable football player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft Possibly one for the future, I suggest moving to draft space for now. Certainly needs a little more for even WP:BASIC. Govvy (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify Hasn't made his first team debut yet - could be notable in the future however. RossEvans19 (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 18:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify- Currently not notable but its most likely to be notable in future, i suggest draftying. MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify This is a borderline case. Given the sources, this is certainly a rising star player. However, I agree with the prior assessments, it does not seem to be ripe for primetime. WP:TOOSOON.Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 23:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yaw Danso

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Ghanese footballer with spells at the NASL and USL clubs, but lacks of independent coverage. Svartner (talk) 17:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 14:05, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Williams (soccer)

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Player with some matches disputed in USL Championship, but who lacks in WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 16:48, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Very common name, hard to search for this person. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:17, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - though my searches found him being quite searchable, having articles about him and his career, lacks SIGCOV though.Lorraine Crane (talk) 21:53, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Riley McGovern

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Played some professional matches in the USL, but does not have WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 19:17, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Allison (footballer)

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Completely fails GNG. I searched the BNA and couldn't find anything on him. Dougal18 (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I think it should be tagged as PROD as per WP:BLPPROD. Fade258 (talk) 14:42, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BLPPROD only applies to living people. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am shame on myself, How do I misunderstood? Well I will be more carefull in forthcoming days. Fade258 (talk) 15:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Played two Football League games for Gainsborough Trinity in the 1907/08 season. Debut vs Lincoln City on 7th March 1908 --Kivo (talk) 15:19, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And how does that demonstrate that they pass WP:GNG? Joseph2302 (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no evidence they pass WP:GNG, and a reasonable WP:BEFORE has been done by the nominator. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Could be a redirect to 1907–08 Gainsborough Trinity F.C. season but that article does not exist... Giant Snowman 17:21, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Can be written about in other articles, however his career does not appear noteworthy. Not even enough for WP:BASIC. Govvy (talk) 18:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Appears to fail WP:BASIC and WP:GNG, even accounting for the leeway given to players of this age. Anwegmann (talk) 19:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Albania vs Serbia (2026 FIFA World Cup qualifying)

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Fails WP:NOTNEWS, WP:LASTING, and similar guidelines. Devoid of broader impact and meaning. Geschichte (talk) 13:57, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Nothing really of importance happening here, the match doesn't really stand out. Govvy (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Albania–Serbia football rivalry – As Gowy said, nothing relevant happened. Svartner (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. No evidence this is a notable game and therefore no reason for a redirect. Why would anyone search for this? Esolo5002 (talk) 22:49, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Discourages the recreation. Svartner (talk) 00:51, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Per Svartner, I am surprised how this got an article in the first place, since nothing happened that becames this match notable (not like the 2014 one). Protoeus (talk) 02:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Albania–Serbia football rivalry the match itself isn't notable. All of the content is about the football rivalry in general and related politics, not about the match itself, as the match was routine. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:52, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and do not redirect. Uneventful matchup between two nations which happen to share a rivalry. "Albania vs Serbia (2026 FIFA World Cup qualifying)," or any variation thereof, is a highly unlikely search term. I also disagree with the claim that redirecting would discourage the recreation of an article. I think the exact opposite would be true since a redirect retains the current article history. If recreation becomes an issue, then WP:SALTing can be considered down the road. Frank Anchor 15:34, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I also feel redirecting would accomplish nothing. Govvy (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kaharuddin Rahman

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Seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. [sukanz.com/202114465/ This] is clearly a passing mention, this is about a selected team but only has two sentences, and this is over 50% quotes. Geschichte (talk) 14:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Webber

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Non-notable footballer. Fails SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. J Mo 101 (talk) 13:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Obscure English footballer who only played in lower leagues. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Bales

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Subject appears to not have played higher than the third division of American soccer before switching to indoor soccer, and he has/had a non-notable commentating job for a collegiate men's soccer team. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:34, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Clearly fails WP:GNG via WP:SIGCOV and even WP:BASIC. Anwegmann (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nate Baker

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The subject appears to not have played more than a few years in the third tier of American soccer. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 06:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I think that he probably meets WP:GNG with the combination of his pro soccer career followed by his coaching career. The USL-2 is a bit of a fringe case here as it merged into the USL Pro around the time that this guy's career ended, many of the sides were professional including his. A few quick results: [4], [5], [6] (played in the US Open Cup). Mountaincirque^talk 10:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Transfermarkt is not a reliable source, and in any event databases are not SIGCOV. Giant Snowman 11:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you play in the third tier and you're good enough to get regular game time you're likely to make appearances in the U.S. Open Cup, so playing in the U.S. Open Cup is not notable. Raskuly (talk) 13:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Above sources are either WP:PASSING or database, and not even a reliable database at that. Clearly fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 19:47, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Baker (soccer, born 1988)

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It does not appear the subject played any higher than the third tier of American soccer. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 06:09, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Golden

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Subject doesn't meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The current sources are primary or databases, and a BEFORE didn't reveal anything else to support notability here. Let'srun (talk) 02:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:35, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:32, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Refs fail a check of WP:SIRS, so the article fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—There's nothing here. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—lacks SIGCOV so far, asides from the copious passing mentions from sports stats pages.Lorraine Crane (talk) 12:31, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gui Brandao

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The article is currently only referenced to primary sources while a BEFORE only came up with a brief blurb at [[7]], which is not enough for this subject to meet the notability guidelines. Let'srun (talk) 01:57, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:35, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:32, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Refs fail a check of WP:SIRS, so the article fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Rather clear failure of WP:SIGCOV/WP:SIRS and thus WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 19:48, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryujiro Yamanaka

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Previously prod deleted and re-created. 24 professional appearances in Singapore before going into coaching in 2021. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 18:57, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG, needs more WP:SIGCOV. This might be a case of WP:TOOSOON. If there are more sources provided, please let me know. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 20:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Christelle Bedran

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Clear fail of WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, contested prod. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources (such as [8]) are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:31, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lebanese Football Association is a primary website. One source is not enough to demonstrate notability, even if it contains IRS SIGCOV. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FA Lebanon is not the Lebanese Football Association. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 14:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:24, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep—Although I recognize that FA Lebanon is not the Lebanese Football Association, and thus I believe the above source is valid, I'm not sure it's enough to bring this article fully into WP:SIGCOV compliance. That said, if we take the policy exactly by its letter, I think this article creeps barely over the line. Anwegmann (talk) 19:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samuel Biek

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Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The best I could find was a few sentences at [[9]] and an interview at [[10]], but without better sourcing this subject doesn't meet the notability guidelines. Let'srun (talk) 15:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article from Oberhessische Presse looks like SIGCOV: https://archive.is/2hKhp Robby.is.on (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:23, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alopua Petoa

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Was deleted before by discussion, and the talk page of the article indicates SIGCOV has still not been met. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Tuvalu national football team#Player records – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 04:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Svartner: Tuvalu has limited media and the fact that he was clearly one of the pre-eminent athletes of Tuvalu and has received international coverage (as shown in the article) speaks for itself. Clearly significant figure in Tuvalu with sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Clearly fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anwegmann:, @Svartner:, He does have sources, also See what I said above, also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Okilani Tinilau (2nd nomination). Thanks, 21:43, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

There is no source with in-depth coverage, but as I said above, it is possible to redirect to the player stats section, since he is one of the players who scored the most goals. For Tuvaluan footballers, a list of athletes who served the national team seems more appropriate to me. Svartner (talk) 23:20, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG and SIGCOV. The existing references are either brief mentions in match reports, non-independent as they are from the Tuvalu FA or are brief transfer reports about him joining a Dutch Sunday League team which is hardly a notable thing as there are many thousands of Sunday League footballers who do not warrant an article on Wikipedia. I can't find anything substantial on him independently either. I also suggest something is done to stop this being recreated as it has already been through AFD twice and deleted only to be recreated and brought back to AFD. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Dutch sources literally say he is the best Tuvaluan footballer and all-time top scorer of national team. Again, this is about context and he was clearly one of Tuvalu's pre-eminent athletes who even received foreign coverage. Defnitely a signifcant figure in Tuvalu overall. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Okilani Tinilau (2nd nomination). Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 09:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - As stated above, He gets a lot of media for someone who comes from a country with barely any media, let alone football media. Again, context is everything. He is likely one of most prominent Tuvaluan athletes in history and is likely well-known in Tuvalu. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:02, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Das osmnezz makes a good point. "Significant" coverage is relative. For a country like Tuvalu, his coverage in international (Dutch) media is significant. 24.170.37.45 (talk) 01:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assile Toufaily

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Fails GNG; lacks WP:SIGCOV. Contested prod Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:17, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Nehme, appears to have enough sources to show notability. Giant Snowman 09:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep' passes WP:NSPORT per the career stats. Patre23 (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody can pass any guideline through stats. Geschichte (talk) 13:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jovan Trnić

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Serbian men's footballer who spent his entire career at the lower levels. Corresponding article on the Serbian Wikipedia is slightly longer, but even secondary sources are just passing mentions while the last is an interview without independent analysis, if I could read them correctly. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – There is more than 44 sources in sr.wiki article, it's should be checked carefully. Svartner (talk) 06:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep He didn't play his entire career in the lower leagues, in fact he played a good number of games in the second tier. (However Serbian First League is not a fully pro league like it says it is, in fact that league is semi-pro. Which also counts against some notability in my opinion.) I had a look at both articles and a lot of the citations between the two wiki's. I am somewhat confused about the, on loan for five seasons? I thought I read he was on loan for only two and then signed. There are a number of oddities with his career and the sources. Saying all this, with the amount of citations, they are pretty routine and some are really not acceptable in my opinion. However there is a build of them, and that builds up the story, along with it's oddities. I could have easily just said delete however my keep is very weak. Govvy (talk) 13:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (stronger) - the many, many sources on the Serbian page, even though many are short, are exactly what we would expect of a player who is notable in Serbia, as sports news in the area doesn't really do American-style feature stories on players. SportingFlyer T·C 16:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.
1,3,6,9,10,11,14,15,20,22,24,30,32,33,34,37,41,43,45: non-independent N.
2: interview, almost zero secondary coverage N.
4: passing mention N.
521: trivial coverage in routine transactional news N.
7: passing mention in quote N.
8121316: not mentioned N.
171823242627283643: name drop N.
19: trivial mention N.
25313542: passing mention in primary match report N.
29: passing, non-encyclopedic mentions N.
38: passing mention N.
39: teammate's video on YouTube N.
40: primary highlight reel on YouTube, unknown provenance N.
Literally nothing even approaching non-trivial coverage, let alone GNG. The Serbian page is cobbled together from passing mentions and non-independent accounts from his own clubs. I would estimate there are no more than 15 non-quote/interview-based, prose sentences on him across all 25 sources that aren't from the federation/club, and that's even including the ineligible primary match recaps like
Except for before the break, when goalkeeper Trnić and Benjamin collided while chasing the ball, there was no excitement before the goals, which confirmed what the table shows – the inefficiency of both teams.
As soon as the second half started, the guests were left with a player less, the referee showed a red card to goalkeeper Trnić.
Then Admir Kecap entered the scene, who on three occasions had more than a reasonable chance, but Trnić managed to prevent the advantage of the home team.
and routine transactional reports like
Trnić, who is 18 years old, spent the previous season in Partizan's branch Teleoptik.
there is also the youngster Jovan Trnić who is gaining experience in Teleoptik.
the contracts are for three years, and were signed by goalkeepers Jovan Trnić (1996) and Đorđe Vukanić (2000), as well as striker Nikola Nović (2000).
JoelleJay (talk) 17:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is absolutely fucked analysis from the most extreme sports deletionist on the website. You are trying to read Western standards into Serbian journalism. Trnić is clearly a notable Serbian football player. SportingFlyer T·C 18:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JoelleJay: "Let alone GNG" ? What do you mean? All articles must meet that guideline.

@SportingFlyer: Please follow WP:CIVIL and refrain from using swear words. You could said you agree with source analysis that none of the references provided contain significant coverage, but don't start WP:JUSTNOTABLE argument.

⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:20, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not making a WP:JUSTNOTABLE argument. Sources like this and this are normal coverage in Serbia - there's not a lot of feature stories about players, we have coverage detailing his entire career, he made almost 100 appearances and would be expected to be found in an encyclopedia of notable Serbian football players. The GNG requirement came about for sportspeople who had nothing written about them except for database entries. That is not the case at all for Trnić, who received media coverage pretty much every single time his team played, and there is absolutely no shortage of mentions or coverage of him. The only thing we are missing is what I call an "American-style feature article" like the ones small towns write about their otherwise entirely non-notable minor league baseball players, which is what Wikipedia seems to require now instead of common sense. SportingFlyer T·C 15:47, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So we're supposed to exempt second-tier Serbian footballers from our global consensus requiring GNG and citation to a source of significant coverage because you agree Serbian newspapers don't give them significant coverage...? You linked to two routine transactional reports that are ubiquitous and typical for footballers anywhere in the world, that doesn't make that the normal extent of coverage for notable Serbian footballers, but if it is, that would just mean these subjects are not actually notable to wiki standards. We deprecated NFOOTY precisely because too often appearances in a given league did not correspond to GNG (and it sounds like his 37 second-tier apps wouldn't have even counted toward NFOOTY as it's not actually fully-professional).
Mentions in primary match reports do not count toward GNG or even BASIC, nor does the routine coverage of transactions that often comes directly from press releases. Building an article around those sources would violate our policies on PRIMARY and NPOV. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not an exemption. There are lots of sources covering his career, over a long period of time, which are independent of him - for instance some of the ones that you've tagged as non-independent actually are, even if they have other problems. What I linked are not "routine transactional reports" - the fact he's getting coverage on him at all is a big deal, you are trying to apply American standards to Serbian media. SportingFlyer T·C 14:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None of these sources provide IRS SIGCOV. We don't have different standards just because you claim media coverage is less comprehensive for these subjects in Serbia. Of course a goalkeeper will be mentioned in many primary match reports where goals are attempted, that doesn't make those mentions significant or secondary. Which sources are you saying are actually independent? JoelleJay (talk) 20:42, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should interpret that sentence as "there isn't even one single secondary independent source providing more than passing mentions, let alone the multiple such sources required for GNG".
I disagree with policing SF's swearing. JoelleJay (talk) 18:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also disagree with putting just one secondary independent source. At least two of them are sufficient enough. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:41, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let's keep in mind that civility is a policy and one of the five pillars. It is non-negotiable. The notability that we are debating is just a guideline. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:08, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SportingFlyer:, I have been trying to say this football media difference between countries stuff for a long time. For instance, I have noticed Zimbabwean, Irish, Polish, Peruvian, Vietnamese and Indonesian media among other countries tend to have larger emphasis on profiles about players in their articles while Serbian, Cypriot, Filipino, North Korean, Finnish, and Saudi Arabian media among other countries tend to have very little (which does not necessarily detract from those countries' players notability). Life is not black and white, many countris have different football media cultures... Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 04:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and there's less of an individualist culture of media coverage in Serbia, probably for historical cultural reasons. It remains that there's far more than enough coverage to have a reliable article on him, and he would clearly be in an encyclopedia of Serbian footballers. I also apologise for any incivility, I was stressed for other reasons and very frustrated about this AfD. SportingFlyer T·C 08:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep – After two relists very little was presented for the deletion of a well-referenced article in Serbian. Svartner (talk) 17:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Svartner, where is the IRS SIGCOV source required to be cited in the article? Aside from meeting SPORTCRIT, the state of the article also has no bearing on whether the topic is notable, and in this case there isn't a single source providing more than a passing mention or primary match coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 20:36, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per Svartner. RossEvans19 (talk) 18:37, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per above. Has sources and 30+ appearances in a fully pro league. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 10:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Carry

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Ian Carry meets WP:COACH through notable roles including head coach at NCAA Division I level, interim coach of a national team, goalkeeping coach of a national team, and current head coach of the U.S. Men's Beach Soccer National Team.[11][12] He has held multiple verified coaching and technical[13]positions at national and[14]collegiate levels.[15] The article is not AI-generated and is improvable. Wq4m820 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Notable as per reasons given by Wq4m820. I have no opinion on the AI issue. Sarah777 (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The sources provided by the article's creator are either primary ones or routine announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Per WP:COACH, Ian Carry meets the inclusion criteria by virtue of serving as the head coach of the U.S. Men's Beach Soccer National Team (a national side under the U.S. Soccer Federation and FIFA-sanctioned discipline of soccer) and previously as head coach of the University of Kentucky women's soccer team (a NCAA Division I program) among other coaching roles (previously linked). "Coaches... are presumed notable if they have held the top position... at the national level." These positions are consistent with notability standards set for professional and national team coaches. However, I acknowledge that coverage is currently limited to primary sources (e.g., ussoccer.com, Kentucky, cmuchippewas). While these establish verifiability and roles held, it is difficult to locate multiple independent, reliable secondary sources that provide significant coverage beyond basic announcements. Few found include 1. 2. 3. 4. (trivial) . 5. etc. If more sources are uncovered, they would strengthen the case for retention as done so already. In the meantime, the article is verifiable and improvable, and merits expansion rather than deletion (Additional secondary coverage, though limited, can be gradually incorporated). Wq4m820 (talk) 23:55, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I... can't understand these words. Passing and trivial mentions do not count towards notability. This definitely needs better source analysis from other users. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As the article creator, if you're unable to "locate multiple independent, reliable secondary sources that provide significant coverage beyond basic announcements", in the words you used, you shouldn't be creating articles. WP:V ≠ WP:N. And you can't vote twice. C 679 15:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, I didn’t intend to cast two votes, only to expand on my rationale. I’ll step back now and let the discussion focus on the article’s merits. Wq4m820 (talk) 21:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Per above. Coach of national soccer team with ongoing career with many sources like [16]. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 10:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Although in more words, the article creator has essentially admitted there is not WP:SIGCOV. WP:SPORTCRIT says that To non-athletes associated with the sport (or athletes whose main claim to notability is non-athletic activity), significant coverage is likely to exist if they meet the following criteria: [...] (emphasis added). Even if one or more of the indicative criteria for a coach's notability present, this only creates a likelihood presumption. If, in fact, we can produce no WP:SIGCOV, then WP:GNG rules the day and the subject is not notable. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 18:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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