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Discussion at Talk:Visual Culture of the Nation of Islam § Requested move 8 May 2025

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Visual Culture of the Nation of Islam § Requested move 8 May 2025. Thanks, Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I have identified the issue with the instructor, but it would also be nice if additional instruction could be given on MOS:AT as well as {{essay-like}} without having to hound all the pages listed in the RM. This course in particular may benefit from having articles reviewed at AfC in the future. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Quickly to clarify that I'm referring to Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Oberlin College/Modern and Contemporary Islamic Art (Spring 2025), as none of the talk pages identify it as such. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Unregistered student translation from Chinese

Hello. Shelterbelt destruction at Yangguan Forest Farm is a new translation from Chinese by an unregistered university student. The article needs work for organizational structure, better/more citations, and more. Knowledge of Chinese would be a help, but plenty of room for improvement without it. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

cc @Hanyangprofessor2 SCP-2000 05:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mathglot @SCP-2000 Yes, that's one of mine. For my feedback on that article see my talkpage and/or archives (User_talk:Hanyangprofessor2#Deadline_5_(Week_9)-_ZHANG_XIAOTONG). Btw, what do you mean by "an unregistered university student"? That student is registered in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Hanyang_University/Sociology_of_Everyday_Life_(2025)/students/overview _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 04:08, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:End of course week leaves unclosed div tag

Template:End of course week leaves an unclosed <div>, which is causing a plethora of missing end tag lint errors. Please discuss at Template talk:End of course week#Template leaves trailing <div>, no need to discuss it here also. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Best practice for trasnlation assignments?

Do we have any guides for students on translating articles? I am familiar with general guides (Wikipedia:Translation or User:TheLonelyPather/Essays/Guide for a translator, as well as the excellent, IMHO, meta:OKA/Instructions for editors), but I don't recall one aimed at students.

I am also curious what do you think about the requirement to check translated content (stable on another wiki) for Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Recently several of the articles translated by my students (from zh to en) have been found to contain close paraphrasing. To be clear, the students did not add it - they simply translated content from zh wiki, where it was stable for many years, but where also apparently nobody noticed this problem. Do you think the students and/or the instructors should be required to check for close paraphrasing in the articles they select for translation? Or should it be mentioned as a best practice? It is not, as far as I can tell, even suggested as a best practice in the guides linked above. Should it be added to them (or to a guide for students on translations, if we have one and it isn't there already)? _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 08:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

First, I always like to put in a shameless plug for WP:ASSIGN. For the specific question of close paraphrasing, as I see it, translation does not provide a "pass" for our copyright policy, or for the important teaching principle of not plagiarizing. If the learning experience is going to focus on translation, as opposed to researching and writing from scratch, it seems to me that instructors should insist that students check the zh source material for close paraphrasing, and remove or correct any such content, before beginning to translate. I can also observe, from back in my own days as a university professor (in the US, but teaching many international students), that different parts of the world have very different cultural assumptions about paraphrasing. I had many international students who were surprised that it was a "thing", because they had previously been taught that imitating the instructor or the text book was the best way to demonstrate mastery of the assignment, so they were taken aback when I told the class that copying and close paraphrasing were unacceptable. So my personal opinion is that it's a good educational objective to have students be attentive to it (and thus, learn the concept of credit-where-credit-is-due for scholarly work), as well as being a community expectation on the English Wikipedia that close paraphrasing should not find its way into mainspace. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:46, 21 June 2025 (UTC)