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Shenzhen Future Access Technology

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Fails WP:NORG and entirely promotional Amigao (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This is just spam. Not finding any sources at all. FalconK (talk) 02:53, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The page is genuine. The personalities and organization do exists. May I what more sources are required to get the page going? Joah Cho (talk) 05:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you think there should be an article about this at all? I don't dispute that it exists; I posit that its purpose in being here is just to raise the profile of the company, which is backwards and makes it spam. The company needs to be notable; see for instance WP:NORG as another commenter mentioned. FalconK (talk) 06:37, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - promotional and not notable, plus severe conflict of interest issues (User:Joah Cho is the cofounder of this company). --Iiii I I I (talk) 18:04, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zhao Wei (basketball)

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This athlete was a member of the Chinese Olympic Basketball team in 1988. Her team placed 6th. She did not compete again, and quite logically has no WP:SIGCOV. The only source in the article is a Sports Reference entry, which is trivial coverage per WP:SPORTCRIT. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 15:56, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to China at the 1988 Summer Olympics#Basketball – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 21:27, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chen Yanran

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Not notable; no serious sources. Ponazzi (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - The sourcing is very weak for this emerging artist, three sources are what seem to be puff pieces in China Daily, which was nearly determined to be a deprecated source per WP:CHINADAILY. The other sources are thin as well, and two seem to be blogs (SICKY), (COMPLEX) neither of which have a byline so they might be churnalism. I'm not sure about the Sina Fujian piece, it also looks like churnalism. This leaves one decent source the ELLE China piece, which is not enough for GNG nor NRTIST. I'm holding off on !Voting for now to do a BEFORE search to see what might be found. Netherzone (talk) 23:12, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Netherzone: The ELLE China piece is quite promotional; it is a paid press release (the piece says "photo credit: Chen Yanran [陈嫣冉]"). The Sina Fujian piece is a more promotional paid press release. Ponazzi (talk) 10:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for your insight on this, I'll have a deeper read when I find a moment in the next day or two. What would help is to find a copy of the original press release(s) that were marked as such, or the PR firm. You might want to look for those and post it here. Netherzone (talk) 14:08, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The Elle China source is good, and there are these as well: Vogue HK, L'Officiel, Luxuo. I'd say that was enough to establish notability and write a decent encyclopedia article. There are others (e.g. Nasty Magazine, 1833 Magazine) but I am a bit less sure myself of their reliability. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 07:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SunloungerFrog: The Elle China source is a quite promotional paid press release (it says "photo credit: Chen Yanran"). The Vogue HK source is also a promotional paid piece (it says "Photo: Courtesy of the artist [a.k.a. Chen Yanran]"). The L'Officiel and Luxuo sources are what seem to be puff pieces. The Vogue HK source is the best source, but it is a paid press release. Most of the sources listed here are not independent of the subject. WP:NRVE says "The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability. No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: the evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity, nor is the topic unsuitable for any other reason." Ponazzi (talk) 10:57, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I stand by my keep; you are of course entitled to your opinion. That the artist provided photos of their work does not, for me, necessarily make it a "paid press release" or "promotional paid piece". Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 11:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving aside the images provided by the subject herself, the content of both ELLE China and Vogue HK sources is promotional in nature. Ponazzi (talk) 11:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SunloungerFrog: Since the photos in ELLE China and Vogue HK sources were provided by the subject herself, the two sources are clearly not independent of the subject. Ponazzi (talk) 11:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I omitted to include this Harper's Bazaar Vietnam source in my earlier list. It's from 2022, so indicative of sustained coverage. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:55, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Bartek, Marek (2024-12-16). "In Conversation with Yanran Chen". Numéro Netherlands. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Yanran Chen is a rising star in the art world. She made a striking debut at ComplexCon 2024 in Las Vegas, unveiling six sculptures from her latest project in collaboration with Liu Cixin, the Hugo Award-winning author of The Three-Body Problem. Yanran's artistic vision reflects profound introspection and a keen awareness of the complexities of the external world. Her work is deeply influenced by the bold storytelling of Japanese manga and the avant-garde aesthetics of experimental French cinema. She has also collaborated with renowned global brands and media outlets, including Balenciaga, Songmont, and R13."
2. David, Fito (2023-02-13). "Yanran Chen: Exploring the Dream W". Vanity Teen.
  I cannot link this article because it is on the global backlist at meta:Spam blacklist. See meta:Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2024-11#vanityteen.com. I see no evidence that the magazine is unreliable. The article notes: "Yanran Chen @yanran_chen_ is a Chinese artist known for her surrealist illustrations that explore the dream world, where time and space have no limitations. She is only 17 years old, but her surrealist drawings have already led to collaborations with Balenciaga, Issey Miyake, and Moleskin. Her colorful, modern, manga-leaning style is infused with feelings of anxiety, fear, and horror, and is influenced by old Japanese horror comic artists Kazuo Umezu, Shintaro Kago, and Suehiro Maruo. Her art reflects her worldview as a teenager and artist in the 21st century, mixing beautiful and ugly, bizarre and real, and opposing forces and concepts that coexist in her work."
3. "Chinese teen's sci-fi art series showcased in Las Vegas". China Daily. 2024-11-21. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "The Playpower Collection, an innovative art series by 19-year-old Chinese artist Chen Yanran and her studio Accro Studio, was presented at ComplexCon 2024 in Las Vegas over the weekend. ... Chen, born in 2005, serves as the lead designer for the Playpower Collection. Her distinctive, postmodern sci-fi aesthetic aligns seamlessly with the themes of Supernova Era."
4. Patidar, Natasha (2025-06-12). ""Neon Dreamland": A Journey Into Yanran Chen's Surreal World". The Beijinger. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Last weekend, I stepped into a space that felt like stepping into someone else's subconscious – a neon-hued, oddly tender and strangely futuristic dreamscape. Yanran Chen's first solo exhibition, “Neon Dreamland,” housed in the newly opened ART FOCUS space in Beijing's vibrant 798 Art District, is less of an art show and more of a portal into an alternate dimension. At only 20 years old, Chen has already established a distinct visual language: rooted in surrealism but infused with the glossy, fast-moving energy of anime, science fiction, and digital culture. Walking through the exhibition, I found myself repeatedly stopping, not just to admire the technical detail, but to process the emotional tension in the works. It's a world where innocence and eeriness coexist – where childhood nostalgia meets artificial intelligence."
5. Wilson, Abbie (2025-05-28). "Artifice as Emotion: The Posthuman Aesthetics of Yanran Chen". Our Culture Mag. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Yanran Chen’s Neon Dreamland, her first solo exhibition in China, isn’t a debut — it’s a simulation of one. Hosted in the new immersive art space ART FOCUS, nestled in Beijing’s 798 Art District like a glowing node in the city’s nervous system, the show feels less like stepping into a gallery and more like logging into someone else’s subconscious — someone raised on anime, speculative fiction, and the ambient dread of being terminally online. Chen, born in 2005, doesn’t make work that suggests influence — her sculptures, installations, and illustrated avatars breathe the language of the posthuman without needing translation. She doesn’t channel the digital age — she excretes it. The exhibition opens with her personal work — The Mechanical Lifeform, Dinner, pieces that first turned heads at ComplexCon LA, though even that setting now feels quaint compared to the eerily calm, ultra-designed zone in which they’re currently housed. These works don’t explain themselves — they glisten."
6. Payos, Alyanna Raissa J. (2025-05-28). "Yanran Chen's First Solo Exhibition In China Is Out Of This World". Vogue Hong Kong. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Yanran Chen’s artistic universe is a world without borders. Cyberpunk chimeras, peculiar female figures, and surrealist scenes beyond imagination are brought to life in her latest exhibition. Titled “Neon Dreamland”, it marks the 20-year-old artist’s first ever solo show in China and is also the opening exhibition of the newly launched ART FOCUS space by Tang Contemporary Art."
7. Hu, Denni (2025-03-28). "Gucci's Bamboo Universe Unveiled in Shanghai Exhibition". Women's Wear Daily. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Also included in the exhibition are four figurines created by Yanran Chen, the 19-year-old Chinese sculptor known for her work that blends body horror and surrealism. Marrying fashion and fantasy, Chen’s dolls, perhaps her alter egos, are seen carrying miniature bamboo bags and modeling looks from recent collections. "
8. Trang, Quỳnh (2022-10-06). "Discuss with Chloe Chen, the young artist, on her amazing surrealistic illustrations". Harper's Bazaar Vietnam. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "Emerging illustrator Chloe Chen (Yanran) is only 17 years old, but her surrealist drawings have already led to collaborations with brands like Moleskine and Balenciaga. Studying in Japan, the young Chinese artist first picked up a paintbrush at three. By 13, she had started to create extraordinary illustrations rich with imagination and creativity. Most of her work excavates the dream world, where time and space have no limitations. At first glance, Chen’s artistic universe might seem playful and light, often featuring girls submerged in the intangible space between childhood innocence and jaded adolescence. But lean closer to the canvas and you’ll plunge headlong into a quizzical realm where nightmares and mysteries swirl alongside soul-deep ruminations on the self. Chen’s colorful, modern, manga-leaning style is entirely infused with feelings of anxiety, fear, and horror."
9. "陈嫣冉的超现实主义插画，来自于漫画、梦境、人与时间的灵感交集" [Yanran Chen's Surrealist Illustrations Draw Inspiration from Comics, Dreams, Humanity, and Time]. Elle China (in Chinese). 2022-09-19. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "新锐插画师陈嫣冉（又名Chloe Chen）只有17岁，但她的超现实主义画作已经促成了与Moleskin、巴黎世家等品牌的合作。这位年轻的中国艺术家3岁时第一次拿起画笔，13岁就可以创作出充满想象力与创造力的插画作品，而如今，她正于日本深造。她的大部分作品挖掘了不受时间与空间限制的梦境世界。"
  From Google Translate: "Emerging illustrator Chen Yanran (also known as Chloe Chen) is only 17 years old, but her surrealist paintings have already led to collaborations with brands such as Moleskin and Balenciaga. This young Chinese artist first picked up a paintbrush at the age of 3, and was able to create imaginative and creative illustrations at the age of 13. Now, she is studying in Japan. Most of her works explore the dream world that is not restricted by time and space."
10. Dai, Xiaoli 戴小橦 (2024-03-23). "国际潮流文化盛事ComplexCon来港点燃时尚消费新热度" [Global Street Culture Event ComplexCon Comes to Hong Kong, Igniting a New Wave of Fashion Consumption] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "除了潮流品牌，展区内还有来自世界各地的艺术家们携最新作品亲临现场与公众交流。来自北京的05后新锐艺术家陈嫣冉的作品展位成了不少参观者打卡的热门点，她这次特别带来了新作品“梦魇机器人”。记者注意到，她作品的主人公大都是留着短发的少女，陈嫣冉表示，少女的想象一定程度上源自于她对于本我的追溯，“部分是我艺术人格的视觉化呈现，但并不是说这些角色完全代表我自己。”这次的“梦魇机器人”则是希望通过赛朋博克的机械外壳，探索敏感纤细的人心变化。"
  From Google Translate: In addition to trendy brands, artists from all over the world also visited the exhibition area with their latest works to communicate with the public. The booth of Chen Yanran, a post-05 emerging artist from Beijing, became a popular spot for many visitors to check in. This time, she brought a new work "Nightmare Robot". The reporter noticed that the protagonists of her works are mostly girls with short hair. Chen Yanran said that the imagination of girls to a certain extent comes from her tracing back to her true self. "Part of it is the visual presentation of my artistic personality, but it does not mean that these characters completely represent myself." This time, the "Nightmare Robot" hopes to explore the sensitive and delicate changes in people's hearts through the mechanical shell of Cyberpunk."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Chen Yanran (simplified Chinese: 陈嫣冉; traditional Chinese: 陳嫣冉), also known as Chloe Chen, to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 12:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources found by @Cunard. Madeleine (talk) 17:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep WP:Hey as new relialbe sources with significant coverage have been added. --Cinder painter (talk) 04:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - based on the sources found by Cunard's excellent research. Netherzone (talk) 14:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huayi Publishing House

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Reads like a press release and it may be better to WP:STARTOVER. Amigao (talk) 01:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Lei, Ben 雷奔 (2001). "书业 "黑马" 细说生意经——华艺出版社的陋巷传奇" [Publishing Industry 'Dark Horse' Shares Business Secrets — The Alleyway Legend of Huayi Publishing House]. 文化月刊 [Cultural Monthly] (in Chinese).
  This is a citation from Google Scholar.
2. "华艺出版社：我们是怎样包装崔永元(1)" [Huayi Publishing: How We Packaged Cui Yongyuan (Part 1)]. china.com [zh] (in Chinese). 2001-07-30. Archived from the original on 2007-02-03. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "华艺出版社因成功包装名人图书而在出版界享有盛誉。虽然，金丽红认为，华艺出版的大多数书并不是名人书；但事实上，华艺成功推出了不少名人书，如吴小莉的《足音》、敬一丹的《声音》、白岩松的《痛并快乐着》等，还有姜文、徐静蕾、高峰等人的书，而且，这些图书几乎是推出一本畅销一本。另外，著名作家如刘心武、王朔、王蒙、刘震云等人的重要著作，差不多也都是华艺率先推出的。" From Google Translate: "Huayi Publishing House enjoys a good reputation in the publishing industry for its successful packaging of celebrity books. Although Jin Lihong believes that most of the books published by Huayi are not celebrity books; in fact, Huayi has successfully launched many celebrity books, such as Wu Xiaoli's Footworks, Jing Yidan's Voice, Bai Yansong's Pain and Happiness, etc., as well as books by Jiang Wen, Xu Jinglei, Gao Feng and others, and these pictures The book is almost a best-selling book. In addition, the important works of famous writers such as Liu Xinwu, Wang Shuo, Wang Meng, Liu Zhenyun and others are almost all pioneered by Huayi."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Huayi Publishing House (simplified Chinese: 华艺出版社; traditional Chinese: 華藝出版社) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 11:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 11:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Ji (Ming dynasty politician)

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Unreferenced article with little verifiability. Not much to expand on and demonstrate sufficient notability against possible deletion. Go D. Usopp (talk) 03:09, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: His article in zh.wp is more fleshed out, but sourced almost entirely to History of Ming vol. 171 ([1]). Curbon7 (talk) 00:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve sourcing per per zh.wikipedia refs. Wang Ji was apparently an important figure in his day. Even if most of what we know comes from one ancient, prominent source, this is a useful article. This sourcing issue is true of many historical figures from very long ago who may be sourced only to Josephus or Thucydides yet we keep them. The article needs to explicitly state in the text that what we know comes from one ancient text. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 02:42, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NPOL. He was Minister of War of the Ming, according to the Ming Shi via Wikisource, and as summarized in his zhwiki article. Thus, he was a politician who held national office. Toadspike [Talk] 09:58, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Xiaochuan

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Fails WP:BIO. Little reliable significant coverage online, with Baidu and Bilili being cited in a majority despite being clearly unreliable sources. Go D. Usopp (talk) 08:53, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Have you checked the sources on zh:孙笑川? IgelRM (talk) 18:41, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No SIGCOV in RS. No awards, contributions or anything that shows notability. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 16:16, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Hu, Zhengda 胡正达 (2018-09-13). "新津青年孙笑川：是全网通缉的带明星，也是月入3500的小主播；是口若悬河的哲学家，也是好吃懒做的心机怪；是直播兴起时代观众捧出的网红，也是与粉丝关系破裂后新型网络暴力的受害者。人人都骂孙笑川，人人都是孙笑川。" [Xinjin Youth Sun Xiaochuan: Both a wanted online celebrity and a small-time streamer earning 3,500 yuan a month; both a silver-tongued philosopher and a scheming slacker; a web idol elevated by fans during the rise of livestreaming, and a victim of new-age online abuse after falling out with them. Everyone curses Sun Xiaochuan, and everyone is Sun Xiaochuan]. Chuapp [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-06-16. Retrieved 2025-06-16.
  The article notes: "高中时的孙笑川毫不起眼。话少，相貌平凡，成绩不突出，性格也不淘气。孙笑川觉得自己就是那种每个班都会有的低存在感男生，很多年后同学聚会时，大家连他的名字都记不清。读书时，孙笑川最大的爱好是周末和同学结伴去网吧打游戏，要么就是去同学家里聚餐。四川高考难度不小，但他并未感受到太大压力。他成长于单亲家庭，母亲卖零食、卖童装，忙于生计，从不对他的成绩提要求，他也乐得轻松。2008年，高三模拟考试，孙笑川的成绩总在三本线附近晃荡，老师判断他是“保三本、争二本”的材料。"
  From Google Translate: "Sun Xiaochuan was unremarkable in high school. He was quiet, ordinary-looking, not outstanding in grades, and not naughty. Sun Xiaochuan felt that he was the kind of low-profile boy in every class. Many years later, when classmates reunited, no one could even remember his name. When he was in school, Sun Xiaochuan's biggest hobby was to go to the Internet cafe with his classmates to play games on weekends, or to have dinner at his classmates' homes. The Sichuan college entrance examination was difficult, but he did not feel too much pressure. He grew up in a single-parent family. His mother sold snacks and children's clothing. She was busy making a living and never made demands on his grades. He was also happy to relax. In 2008, in the senior high school mock exam, Sun Xiaochuan's grades were always around the third-tier line. The teacher judged that he was a material for "keeping the third-tier and striving for the second-tier"."
2. Heidi 海蒂 (2018-12-26). "既在场又不在场的带带大师兄，拥有社交网络海洋里最棒的泳姿" [Daidai Dashi Xiong: Both Present and Absent, Mastering the Finest Swim in the Ocean of Social Networks] (in Chinese). Vice Media. Archived from the original on 2019-01-30. Retrieved 2025-06-16.
  The article notes: "带带大师兄，真名孙笑川。做过工地监理的他，听说直播很火，便摘下安全帽，戴起电竞耳机，无缝跳槽成一名游戏主播。现在的直播界已经形成了两条潜规则：要么长得让人想送钱，要么游戏打得让人想送钱。长得不帅，游戏水平也一般的孙笑川并没有试图讨好观众 —— 他骂粉丝。粉丝们爱听他骂人，更享受在直播里通过弹幕被他骂。在直播中大骂队友的孙笑川就像他们的室友一样触手可及。他没想到自己牵了个头，粉丝们追随着他，戏谑性地宣泄着平日生活中被自己隐藏了的情绪。"
  From Google Translate: "Daidai master brother, real name Sun Xiaochuan. He has been a construction site supervisor. He heard that live broadcasting is very popular, so he took off his safety helmet, put on e-sports headphones, and seamlessly switched to become a game anchor. Now the live broadcast industry has formed two unspoken rules: either you look good enough to make people want to give money, or you play games well enough to make people want to give money. Sun Xiaochuan, who is not handsome and has average game skills, did not try to please the audience - he scolded fans. Fans love to listen to him scolding people, and they enjoy being scolded by him through barrage in live broadcasts. Sun Xiaochuan, who cursed his teammates during the live broadcast, was as accessible as their roommate. He didn't expect that he would take the lead, and fans would follow him, playfully venting the emotions that they had hidden in their daily lives."
3. Miao, Zonghan 繆宗翰 (2020-04-06). Zhou, Huiying 周慧盈; Zhu, Jianling 朱建陵 (eds.). "中國網軍假訊息何處覓眾文都指孫笑川" [Where Do China's Internet Trolls Get Their Disinformation? Many Point to Sun Xiaochuan] (in Chinese). Central News Agency. Archived from the original on 2025-06-16. Retrieved 2025-06-16.
  The article notes: "「孫笑川」原是一名中國大陸網紅，由於直播期間與粉絲及網友經常發生辛辣爭執，引發中國大陸網路社群一波「孫笑川」亞文化（次文化）與網路迷因（meme）風潮。這股風潮近來也被中國網軍所利用。推特（Twitter）、臉書（Facebook）等社群平台在2019年間出現一系列「孫笑川」帳號，個別帳號名稱有些微差異，並有不同背景個資，並有節奏地對台發動訊息攻勢。"
  From Google Translate: ""Sun Xiaochuan" was originally a Chinese Internet celebrity. Because of the frequent spicy disputes with fans and netizens during live broadcasts, a wave of "Sun Xiaochuan" subculture and Internet meme (meme) trend was triggered in the Chinese Internet community. This trend has also been used by Chinese cyber army recently. A series of "Sun Xiaochuan" accounts appeared on social platforms such as Twitter and Facebook in 2019. Some of the accounts have slightly different names and different background information, and they have launched information offensives against Taiwan in a rhythmic manner."
4. Yan, Weiqi 颜维琦 (2018-08-27). ""狗粉丝"背后的新型网络暴力亟需遏制" [The New Form of Cyberbullying Behind 'Dog Fans' Urgently Needs to Be Curbed]. Guangming Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2020-02-11. Retrieved 2025-06-16.
  The article notes: "“狗粉丝”并非爱狗人士，而是源于斗鱼主播李赣、“带带大师兄”孙笑川的粉丝群体。由于他们直播时常常“出口成脏”，同粉丝进行骂战，采取各种博眼球的手法吸引流量，从而招惹了一大批“黑粉”，“狗粉丝”这个名称就是从直播间的口水骂战中而来。与那些真心支持偶像明星的粉丝不同，“狗粉丝”经常宣扬孙笑川为各种社会负面事件的“罪魁祸首”，将其塑造为无恶不作的形象，从而吸引其他群体对他进行声讨。"
  From Google Translate: ""Dog fans" are not dog lovers, but fans of Douyu anchor Li Gan and "Big Brother Daidai" Sun Xiaochuan. Because they often "swear" during live broadcasts, engage in verbal battles with fans, and use various eye-catching methods to attract traffic, they have attracted a large number of "black fans". The name "dog fans" comes from the verbal battles in the live broadcast room. Unlike those fans who truly support idol stars, "dog fans" often promote Sun Xiaochuan as the "culprit" of various negative social events, shaping him into an image of doing all kinds of evil, thereby attracting other groups to denounce him."
5. ""国潮第一人"专访：人人都说抽象话，无人再识孙笑川" [Exclusive Interview with the 'Pioneer of Guochao': Everyone Speaks in Abstractions, but No One Remembers Sun Xiaochuan]. China Youth Network [zh] (in Chinese). 2019-01-16. Archived from the original on 2019-01-30. Retrieved 2025-06-16.
  The article notes: "被p上众多潮流品牌型录的孙笑川。“上身”过的潮牌比任一个业界KOL都多。孙笑川被动成为潮流圈的代表形象之一。他也顺势自创了服饰品牌NMSL。潮流圈内人士总是和说唱圈关系密切。孙笑川也不例外。他的直播片段被网友当做素材。剪成各种鬼畜rap抽象圣经。从而有了“成都地下说唱皇帝”的称号。他成立了音乐厂牌NMSL。旗下已结集了十几位新生代说唱歌手"
  From Google Translate: "Sun Xiaochuan has been photoshopped into many trendy brand catalogs. He has "applied" more trendy brands than any other KOL in the industry. Sun Xiaochuan passively became one of the representative images of the trend circle. He also took the opportunity to create his own clothing brand NMSL. People in the trend circle are always closely related to the rap circle. Sun Xiaochuan is no exception. His live broadcast clips are used as materials by netizens. They are cut into various ghost rap abstract bibles. Thus, he has the title of "Chengdu Underground Rap Emperor". He founded the music label NMSL. It has gathered more than a dozen new generation rappers."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Sun Xiaochuan (simplified Chinese: 孙笑川; traditional Chinese: 孫笑川 to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 06:49, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Outside of the Vice China and CNA articles, the other three websites' reliability are questionable at best. CNA, Guangming Daily and China Youth Network are closely associated and operated by their respective governments; while CNA being Taiwanese isn't problematic in this rehard, the two latter are operated directly by the CCP and thus have significant reliability concerns. Go D. Usopp (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources found by Cunard. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:19, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Cunard's work suffices for GNG. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 12:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huyou

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Subject appears to either not be notable or be dictionary content. Wikipedia:Dictionary Ike Lek (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Hou, Zhanxiang 侯占香 (August 2011). ""忽悠"新义进入《现代汉语词典》的可行性分析" [A Feasibility Analysis of Including the New Meaning of 'Huyou' in the Modern Chinese Dictionary]. 江汉大学学报（人文科学版） [Journal of Jiangsu University (Humanities Science Edition)] (in Chinese). 30 (4): 69–72. ISSN 1006-6152. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
  The article notes: "从2002年开始，忽悠一词因小品《卖拐》而为人们熟知。经过赵本山连续三年在春节晚会上大力推广，忽悠以空前的速度迅速传播开来，并引起了语言学者的关注。目前，学术界对忽悠词大多定义流行新词，也有学者大胆作出预测，作社会流行语的新词，随着使用频率的提高和流行范围的扩大，也许在不久的将来会被收入词典，成为个固定的义项。如今，九年的时间过去了，忽悠似乎已被社会大众认可并广泛使用，那么，在语言学范围内，它究竟处于何种地位，未来发展趋势如何？本文将就这个问题进行分析研究，探讨忽悠新义进入《现代汉语词典》的可能性。"
  From Google Translate: "Since 2002, the word "Huyou" has become well-known due to the skit "Selling Crutch". After Zhao Benshan's vigorous promotion at the Spring Festival Gala for three consecutive years, "Huyou" has spread at an unprecedented speed and attracted the attention of linguists. At present, most academics define "Huyou" as a popular new word. Some scholars have boldly predicted that as a new word in social buzzwords, it may be included in the dictionary in the near future and become a fixed meaning as its frequency of use increases and its popularity expands. Now, nine years have passed, and "Huyou" seems to have been recognised and widely used by the public. So, in the scope of linguistics, what is its status and what is its future development trend? This article will analyze and study this issue and explore the possibility of the new meaning of "Huyou" entering the "Modern Chinese Dictionary"."
  The article notes: "在赵本山的小品中出现之前，人们对“忽悠”一词的使用范围仅限于东北方言，意义也只有晃动、恭维和迷迷糊糊三种，其中，“晃动”的使用频率略高，以方言词的身份被收人现代汉语词典。小品《卖拐》将“恭维”与“迷迷糊糊”结合起来，演绎出了一种新的含义，即带有中性色彩的“蒙骗。这种全新的含义来源于方言词却又超越方言词，无论是文献资料还是群众口语，都缺乏足够的证据证明这一含义曾被人们使用过。但是，这并没有影响人们对这一词语的喜爱之情。从普通百姓用语到网络语言到媒体语言再到书面用语，忽悠一词以前所未有的速度迅速普及开来，继而持续稳定地为人们使用。"
  From Google Translate: "Before it appeared in Zhao Benshan's skit, people only used the word "huyou" in the northeastern dialect, and its meanings were only shaking, complimenting, and being confused. Among them, "shaking" was used more frequently and was included in the modern Chinese dictionary as a dialect word. The skit "Selling Crutch" combined "complimenting" with "being confused" to interpret a new meaning, that is, "deceiving" with a neutral color. This new meaning comes from the dialect word but transcends the dialect word. Whether it is literature or mass spoken language, there is insufficient evidence to prove that this meaning has been used by people. However, this did not affect people's love for this word. From the language of ordinary people to network language to media language and then to written language, the word "huyou" has spread rapidly at an unprecedented speed and has been used by people continuously and steadily."
2. Ma, Xiaoqin 马晓琴 (2010). ""忽悠"浅析" [A Brief Analysis of 'Huyou']. 宁夏师范学院学报 [Journal of Ningxia Normal University] (in Chinese) (1): 94–95. ISSN 2097-5708. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15 – via CQVIP [zh].
  The abstract notes: "赵本山"忽悠"系列小品的推出,让"忽悠"这个习焉不察的词语引领了时代的潮流。从文化语言学的角度可以分析"忽悠"的初源及这一语言现象形成的原因、语用特点。"
  From Google Translate: "The launch of Zhao Benshan's "Huyou" series of sketches has made the word "Huyou" a trend of the times. From the perspective of cultural linguistics, we can analyse the origin of "Huyou" and the reasons for the formation of this language phenomenon and its pragmatic characteristics."
3. Hu, Jiangang 胡建刚 (2007). "表达空位与"忽悠"流行" [Expression Gaps and the Popularity of 'Huyou']. 语言文字应用 [Applied Linguistics] (in Chinese) (2): 88–95. doi:10.3969/j.issn.1003-5397.2007.02.012. ISSN 1003-5397. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15 – via Wanfang Data [zh].
  The abstract notes: "在表达空位的补位机制作用下,方言词语"忽悠"以[+带有笑谑、诙谐语气]为补位要素,进占现代汉语"骗"类系统"中性化表达欺骗义"这一表达空位,从而迅速成为一个流行新词.共同语吸收方言词汇填补其表达空位的机制进一步证明了共同语和方言的共生关系."
  From Google Translate: "Under the mechanism of filling the expression gap, the dialect word "Huyou" takes [+ with a joking and humorous tone] as the filling element, occupies the expression gap of "neutral expression of deception" in the modern Chinese "cheat" system, and quickly becomes a popular new word. The mechanism of common language absorbing dialect words to fill its expression gap further proves the symbiotic relationship between common language and dialect."
4. "公众如何看待官场中的"大忽悠"" [How the Public Views the 'Huyou' in Officialdom]. 人民论坛 [People's Tribune] (in Chinese). No. 4. 2018. pp. 14–21. doi:10.3969/j.issn.1004-3381.2018.04.003. ISSN 1004-3381. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15 – via Wanfang Data [zh].
  The abstract notes: ""忽悠"是北方俗语,既有胡说、欺骗的意思,也有吹牛、煽动、鼓动、怂恿等含义,用意广泛,但与"诈骗"一词相比,性质更温和一些.人们对诈骗犯非常痛恨,对"大忽悠"则很多时候一笑了之.如果说熟人之间的"小忽悠"是一种调侃说趣,那么官场中的"大忽悠"则危害极大."
  From Google Translate: ""Huyou" is a colloquialism in northern China, which means nonsense, deception, bragging, incitement, agitation, and instigation. It has a wide range of meanings, but compared with the word "fraud", it is milder in nature. People hate fraudsters very much, but often just laugh it off for "big liars". If "small liars" between acquaintances are a kind of joke, then "big liars" in official circles are extremely harmful."
5. Wang, Wuxing 王武兴 (2010). "从"忽悠"和"不折腾"的翻译谈汉语和英语文化之间信息的转换" [On the Translation of 'Huyou' and 'Bu zheteng: Cultural Information Transfer Between Chinese and English]. 北京教育学院学报 [Journal of Beijing Institute of Education] (in Chinese) (3): 74–76. doi:10.3969/j.issn.1008-228X.2010.03.016. ISSN 1008-228X. Archived from the original on 2025-06-15. Retrieved 2025-06-15 – via Wanfang Data [zh].
  The abstract notes: "两种语言文化之间信息的转换,最难把握的细微差别往往是词语包含的微妙意义、某种韵味和多重语义内涵.本文以汉语北方方言"忽悠"和"不折腾"为例,结合语境中的文化因素,就英译文如何表现原文的本意、引中和联想意义进行了探讨."
  From Google Translate: "When converting information between two languages and cultures, the most difficult nuances to grasp are often the subtle meanings, certain flavors, and multiple semantic connotations of words. This paper takes the northern Chinese dialects "huyou" and "bu zheteng" as examples, and combines cultural factors in the context to discuss how English translations can express the original meaning, citation, and associative meanings of the original text."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Huyou (Chinese: 忽悠) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:46, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I may be wrong to say that it might not be notable; however it still seems to fall under the Wikipedia is not a dictionary caveat. An argument could be made that this would be considered an acceptable Neologism for its own article, but it seems better fit to only be a Wiktionary entry. Ike Lek (talk) 16:55, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary#When a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject says:

In some cases, a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject. In these cases, the word or phrase in and of itself passes Wikipedia's notability criteria as the subject of verifiable coverage by reliable sources. As with any subject, articles on words must contain encyclopedic information. That is, such articles must go beyond what would be found in a dictionary entry (definition, pronunciation, etymology, use information, etc.), and include information on the social or historical significance of the term.

Multiple academic sources have discussed the "the social or historical significance of the term", showing that it is "an encyclopedic subject". Cunard (talk) 06:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How is this different from the thousands of words that have had their etymology studied? Surely not every word that is written about gets its own article. Most of your sources seem to be using the word to demonstrate linguistic concepts rather than ascribing any particular significance to the word itself. That being said, I admit this may fall into a grey area. Ike Lek (talk) 04:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary).

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete, this is one of those cases where sourcing is largely irrelevant. We are not an etymological dictionary of Chinese language. More deeply, there are rare occasions in which a foreign word's underlying culture is sufficiently well-documented that it becomes a subject independent of its mere existence as a piece of foreign vocabulary with an origin attached. An example would be Gemütlichkeit. The bar for proving this is quite high. Normally, foreign sources are fine for a foreign subject, but that's when the subject isn't the word itself (we can use Indian sources to talk about an Indian film). When we want to talk about the foreign word itself, it helps if we can demonstrate cultural significance that's meaningful to someone who doesn't speak the language, and non-native sources become valuable. Gemütlichkeit passes because not only are the Germans very proud of it and inclined to write about it, but German-speakers have tried to sell it to the rest of the world (and been Sued for not supplying enough), and its meaning has been adopted into some non-German contexts. I don't think Huyou comes anywhere near this standard. Elemimele (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Pingdingshan mining explosion

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Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 15:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/redirect to List of coal mining accidents in China#2020s per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 08:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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2024 Nanjing building fire

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Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 17:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, non-notable news story. The basic details can be sufficiently covered in the table at List of fires in high-rise buildings. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 04:58, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Zhou, Jie 周洁; Wu, Xue 吴雪 (2024-04-01). "无处安放的电动自行车一场大火牵出的治理难题" [Electric Bikes With Nowhere to Park: A Fire That Exposed a Governance Dilemma]. Xinmin Weekly (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-06-09. Retrieved 2025-06-09.
  The article notes: "元宵节前夜，2024年2月23日4点39分，一场电动自行车引发的大火，让南京市雨花台区明尚西苑小区居民，经历了一场噩梦。起火楼栋位于6栋2单元，由于该小区的垂直天井连通各楼层与1楼架空层，大火通过天井一路往上蹿至二十多层高。接到报警后，20多台消防车赶赴现场救火，直到约清晨6时，明火被扑灭。官方数据显示，这场事故共造成15人遇难，44人受伤。"
  From Google Translate: "On the eve of the Lantern Festival, at 4:39 on 23 February 2024, a fire caused by an electric bicycle made the residents of Mingshang Xiyuan Community in Yuhuatai District, Nanjing City experience a nightmare. The fire building is located in Unit 2, Building 6. Since the vertical patio of the community connects each floor with the overhead floor on the first floor, the fire jumped all the way up through the patio to more than 20 floors. After receiving the alarm, more than 20 fire trucks rushed to the scene to put out the fire until about 6 o'clock in the morning, when the open fire was extinguished. Official data shows that the accident caused a total of 15 deaths and 44 injuries."
  The article notes: " 在收治受伤人员的一家医院中，记者见到了此次火灾的伤者之一张小姐。她告诉《新民周刊》，自己在南京工作，去年下半年刚刚拿到明尚西苑的房本，原本以为是美好生活的开始，没想到，一切就像做了一场梦。在明尚西苑小区，记者看到包括发生火灾的6栋在内，小区内的住宅均设置了多个天井，在一楼与架空层相邻。部分住户为自家窗户安装了防盗窗、搭建了顶棚，也有人在上面放置了一些杂物。"
  From Google Translate: "In a hospital that admitted the injured, the reporter met one of the injured in the fire, Ms. Zhang. She told Xinmin Weekly that she worked in Nanjing and had just received the property title of Mingshang Xiyuan in the second half of last year. She originally thought it was the beginning of a good life, but unexpectedly, everything was like a dream. In Mingshang Xiyuan community, the reporter saw that including the six buildings where the fire broke out, all the houses in the community were equipped with multiple patios, adjacent to the overhead floor on the first floor. Some residents installed anti-theft windows and built ceilings for their windows, and some people placed some sundries on them."
  The article notes: " 南京火灾发生后，上海多个街道都开展了电动自行车安全宣传，市公安部门、消防部门、物业管理部门等都在开展专项检查，相关违规现象、消防隐患正被整改。"
  From Google Translate: "After the Nanjing fire, many streets in Shanghai have carried out electric bicycle safety publicity. The municipal public security department, fire department, property management department, etc. are carrying out special inspections, and related violations and fire hazards are being rectified."
2. Jing, Ming 景明; Mao, Jun 毛俊 (2014-11-27). Wu, Zhichao 伍智超 (ed.). "南京"2·23"15死44伤火灾事故调查报告公布，10人被处罚" [Investigation Report Released on Nanjing "2·23" Fire That Killed 15 and Injured 44; 10 People Penalized]. The Paper (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-06-09. Retrieved 2025-06-09.
  The article notes: "涉事电动自行车车主、非法生产销售锂离子电池个体经营者、南京某物业管理公司项目部负责人等10人因涉嫌犯罪，被公安机关依法采取刑事强制措施。涉事电动自行车生产销售、物业服务等7家企业，由政府相关部门依法依规进行处理。对事故中存在失职失责问题的地方党委政府及有关部门的公职人员进行严肃问责。"
  From Google Translate: "The owner of the electric bicycle involved, the individual operator who illegally produces and sells lithium-ion batteries, the project manager of a property management company in Nanjing, and 10 other people were taken criminal compulsory measures by the public security organs in accordance with the law for suspected crimes. The seven companies involved in the production and sales of electric bicycles, property services, etc., were dealt with by the relevant government departments in accordance with the law. Serious accountability will be held for the local party committees, governments and public officials of relevant departments who have failed to perform their duties in the accident."
3. Shen, Rufa 沈汝发 (2024-11-27). Jiao, Peng 焦鹏 (ed.). "南京"2·23"重大火灾事故调查情况发布 10人被采取刑事强制措施" [Investigation Results Released for Major "2·23" Fire in Nanjing: 10 People Face Criminal Charges] (in Chinese). [[[Xinhua News Agency]]. Archived from the original on 2025-06-09. Retrieved 2025-06-09.
  The article notes: "事故发生后，江苏省成立“2·23”重大火灾事故调查组，省纪委监委成立事故追责问责审查调查组。调查组查明，火灾原因为小区某住户停放在6号楼2单元东侧架空层的电动自行车锂离子电池热失控起火，引燃周边电动自行车和住户天井内违章搭建并堆放的可燃物，在烟囱效应作用下，燃烧产生的火焰和高温有毒有害烟气快速突破天井内部分住户外窗至室内，多种因素叠加导致火势扩大蔓延，造成人员伤亡。"
  From Google Translate: "After the accident, Jiangsu Province established a "2.23" major fire accident investigation team, and the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection and Supervision established an accident accountability review and investigation team. The investigation team found out that the cause of the fire was that the lithium-ion battery of an electric bicycle parked on the east side of Unit 2 of Building 6 of a resident in the community ran away from control and caught fire, igniting the surrounding electric bicycles and the combustibles illegally built and stacked in the patio of the residents. Under the chimney effect, the flames and high-temperature toxic and harmful smoke generated by the combustion quickly broke through the outdoor windows of some residents in the patio to the indoors. The superposition of multiple factors caused the fire to expand and spread, causing casualties."
4. Bo, Xiaozhou 薄晓舟, ed. (2024-02-25). "15死44伤，南京居民楼火灾为何伤亡严重？" [15 Dead, 44 Injured: Why Was the Nanjing Apartment Fire So Deadly?]. China Newsweek (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-06-09. Retrieved 2025-06-09 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "明尚西苑小区是于2010年建成的安置房，位于南京市南部地区，共有6栋。据官方通报，此次发生火灾的是第6栋第2单元，有256户，居住人口762人。起火点是2单元一楼的架空层。架空层，多出现在南方城市的建筑中，一楼潮湿，往往不住人，而是被设计为没有外围墙的开敞空间层，便于通风，隔潮。一些开发商会将此处开发为公共活动空间，比如游泳池、会客厅。但不少小区的架空层，最终是用于停放住户的电动车、自行车等。事故所在明尚西苑小区，便是后者。"
  From Google Translate: "Mingshang Xiyuan Community is a resettlement housing complex built in 2010. It is located in the southern part of Nanjing and has a total of 6 buildings. According to official reports, the fire broke out in Unit 2 of Building 6, which has 256 households and a population of 762. The fire started in the overhead floor on the first floor of Unit 2. The overhead floor is mostly found in buildings in southern cities. The first floor is damp and often uninhabited. Instead, it is designed as an open space without outer walls to facilitate ventilation and moisture isolation. Some developers will develop this place into a public activity space, such as a swimming pool or a reception room. However, the overhead floors of many communities are ultimately used to park residents' electric vehicles, bicycles, etc. The Mingshang Xiyuan Community where the accident occurred is the latter."
5. Less significant coverage:
  1. Chen, Rongmei 陈荣梅 (2024-08-07). ""电鸡"停满人行道行人"蛇形走位"穿行有企业推出电单车立体停车库尝试解决占道问题" [E-Bikes Crowd Sidewalks, Forcing Pedestrians to Weave Through Some Companies. Try Multi-Level Parking Solutions to Tackle Obstruction Problem]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-06-09. Retrieved 2025-06-09.
    The article notes: "南京雨花台区“2·23”火灾事故后，为防止电单车停放小区内引发火灾，全国各地的小区陆续禁止电单车进入小区停放，深圳也不例外。"
    From Google Translate: "After the "2.23" fire accident in Yuhuatai District, Nanjing, in order to prevent fires caused by motorcycles parked in residential areas, communities across the country have successively banned motorcycles from being parked in the communities, and Shenzhen is no exception."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the subject to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Duration of coverage, which says, "Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle." The event happened on 23 February 2024. The subject received significant coverage in April 2024 and November 2024. Cunard (talk) 07:13, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Significant coverage has been received in news channels and newspapers such as The Guardian [2], BBC [3], DW News [4], The Hindu [5], Al Jazeera Media Network [6], and CNN [7], as well as investigations in The Paper [8] and China Daily [9]. According to the reports, new regulations regarding the safety of electric bicycles (e.g., bans on charging and parking of electric bicycles) indicate long-term impacts that meet the criteria of WP:EVENTCRITERIA. It is mentioned that safety inspections have been intensified in Nanjing and Jiangsu Province, and the investigation held 10 individuals accountable for the fire, including the electric bicycle user, the property management company, and local administration officials. SachinSwami (talk) 15:49, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the sources found by @Cunard and @SachinSwami. Madeleine (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chen Zhehan

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No sources to support notability Stvbastian (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chen Yongrui. --Iiii I I I (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But the article fails basic critera WP:SPORTBASIC. Stvbastian (talk) 02:54, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If every article ever created through passing NBAD gets quick deletion unless GNG is proved immediately, then what's the point of NBAD? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:49, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After NFOOTY was thrown out, I believe there is little to no point to any of the sport SNGs. All NBAD says is that "coverage is likely to exist". It's not a policy or guideline. Geschichte (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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del no coverage. --Altenmann >talk 20:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result is no consensus. --Discospinster (talk) 11:24, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chen Yongrui

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No sources to support notability Stvbastian (talk) 15:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Chen meets WP:NBADMINTON, as he and Chen Zhehan have won a Super 100-level tournament together. --Iiii I I I (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But the article fails basic critera WP:SPORTBASIC. Stvbastian (talk) 02:11, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've found a little coverage [10][11][12] but not much. The Asian Junior Championships medal seems promising, until you realize that it's just a team event where he was one of 16 players [13]. (For non-badminton folks, the format is kinda explained here. Surprising that we don't have an article on it.) My best argument against deletion is that these are young players and my illegal crystal ball says that there is a decent chance they will garner more coverage in future. Toadspike [Talk] 10:36, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per @User:Toadspike explanation, that means this artilce is WP:TOOSOON and fails SIGCOV. So, for now this article should be archive or delete. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 17:23, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop pushing for this discussion to be closed as soon as possible in your favor. I've already explained that Chen Yongrui meets notability standards, Toadspike has provided sources, and here are some more: [14][15][16].

Looking at your past deletion nominations, you are clearly aware of what NBADMINTON says, and yet you still nominated this page. These recent nominations appear to be motivated by a personal grudge against the page creator. If you can't be objective, you should step away from editing Wikipedia for a while. Iiii I I I (talk) 00:06, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have read all the sources that you given, but i can't found any articles that pass the notability for Chen Yongrui page. GNG clearly said "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Im just follow the Wikipedia rules, and hope that the Wikipedia articles looks better. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 06:17, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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del insufficient in-depth coverage. --Altenmann >talk 20:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There's content, but it's effectively just a list of results and barely more. This doesn't seem to be a good enough BLP for inclusion in article space, considering that there's no biography part, and just a fact repository. Page needs WP:TNT to progress, if there are any good enough sources. The Troutinator - Slap me | 09:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jingyi Jessica Li

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Promotional biography. Article author has moved this to mainspace after several declines at AFC, and has resisted re-drafticiation, so here we are at AFD. The only independent reliable source cited is for a listing on Innovators Under 35's regional China sublist. The rest of the citations are written by the article subject. I have looked and not been able to find better sourcing. One source is not enough to hang WP:GNG on, and they do not appear to meet any of the criteria in WP:NPROFESSOR, so I think this one ought to be deleted. MrOllie (talk) 22:14, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - her citation record (h-index over 30, 13 publications with 100+ citations) looks OK for WP:NPROF#1 (maybe a bit borderline) but I would say that her Overton Prize and recent Guggenheim Fellowship (I just added that information to the article) count for WP:NPROF#2. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 08:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Overton Prize and the Guggenheim Fellowship both contribute to WP:PROF #2 ("highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level"). After receiving the Overton Prize, there was an extended article on her in the journal Bioinformatics [17], which also contributes to notability. I did a little tidying up to make this less resume-like and more appropriate for Wikipedia. DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, WP:TOOSOON. While the awards are relevant, they are all early career to at most mid-career, so not the type of major peer awards for WP:NPROF#C2 IMO. When I look at her citations, I think we need to ignore the first (consortium) source. With just the others she has an h-factor of 33, which by comparison to some of her co-authors such as Peter J. Bickel, Steven E. Brenner or Kai-Wai_Chang is not that impressive, it is not a low citation area. (The first two are more senior, but Chang is not.) I am not impressed by just having a few articles with > 100 cites, my benchmark is more > 1000. Perhaps I am harder to impress... Ldm1954 (talk) 21:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NPROF#C2 literally names the Guggenheim Fellowship as a qualifying honor. Keep on that basis. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, passes WP:NPROF#2a; the Guggenheim Fellowship is limited to mid-career (and later) academics (not students, even postgrads) and is even listed as an example for prestigious awards. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I am convinced by the argument that the Guggenheim Fellowship is listed in WP:PROF#C2 as an example of an honor that passes that criterion, but also I think her citation record (discounting the consortium paper and instead focusing on first-author papers with 351, 196, 118 citations etc) is good enough for WP:PROF#C1, unsurprisingly for someone with a full professorship at a high-ranking research university. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Guggenheim Fellowship is enough. Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction (talk) 20:22, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. Guggenheim Fellowship is explicit WP:PROF#C2 as is Overton Prize and (w/ admission of COI), Radcliffe Fellowship is also a WP:PROF#C2-level mid-career/later prize. Agreeing also with what Eppstein said about citation record for WP:PROF#C1 -- but noting that this community should be calibrating our idea of what's an obvious C1-citation-count pass based on what full profs at places like UCLA have, rather than vice-versa. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 13:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yuquanying

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Non-notable intersection. In attempting to source this article, I was unable to find any valid sources about this particular intersection, much less anything that would contribute to notability. Garsh (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. It seems odd to me that the article is focused on an intersection. Isn't Yuquanying a major road, not just an intersection? (There seem to be many articles about the road and building complexes on the road via Google News.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no evidence of notability and I couldn't find sources to pass WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 09:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no indication of notability. Jeepday (talk) 11:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Yuquanying Subdistrict. The Chinese name here is 玉泉营, which seems to refer to a variety of topics in that area, but I think all can be covered at the main subdistrict article. That article could be expanded with this source, which covers the history of the area in depth, though its reliability could be debated [18]. Toadspike [Talk] 11:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Sources have been added, focus has been expanded to mention Yuquanying's 800 years of history as one of the 18 floricultural villages of the Fengtai district of Beijing before becoming the site of a major highway intersection and overpass. (OK I'm still in the process of untangling how best to cite and/or edit that section, which could still take several days as I try to work on other things.) Sincerely appreciate the pointer to the administrative subdistrict page provided by Toadspike (not to mention their spirit of investigation which is what makes these geography AfD puzzles interesting), but the modern administrative subdistrict article can remain separate from the Yuquanying article about the history of the village since the Jin dynasty. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have mixed feelings about this – I considered expanding this article, but decided that Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article about a populated place, is more suitable for this information. I don't mean to be rude, but you have effectively hijacked this article and changed its topic to one that we already cover elsewhere. Toadspike [Talk] 09:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The 800-year history of the village of Yuquanying, where there is now also a highway overpass, is not covered at all in the current article about Yuquanying Subdistrict, which focuses on an administrative region established in 2021. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:18, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can only have one topic claiming notablity per GEOLAND on this, and here it should be the legally-recognized subdistrict. Of the three sources you link, the first is about the subdistrict, the second lists Yuquanying among other subdistricts like Majiapu Subdistrict and some places that don't seem to have legal recognition, and the third is a mathematical analysis of traffic at the intersection that doesn't actually tell us anything about the intersection. I am not convinced this shows the need for a split from the main subdistrict article. Toadspike [Talk] 10:42, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, we can still keep looking for more sources; those were just indicative and as I said, it's still a work in progress. The first source actually leads with the modern Yuquanying subdistrict but the third paragraph is about the historical village of Yuquanying and its 800-year history as a flower town. The second source is interesting because it references the historical (centuries-old) concept of the 18 villages of Fengtai district, which is discussed elsewhere in books and suggests a fruitful line of research, and also provides more context about the floricultural history of the region. (Actually not sure what to do with "Beijing Yuquanying highway" in the third source; not even sure if it's actually about the actual intersection or overpass. Is it? Very unclear from looking at the article.) Anyway Wikipedia is full of multiple articles about the same geographic location. We could easily keep splitting this article into sub-topics and at minimum, Yuquanying would have to be retained as a disambiguation page. (And yes, you are correct: it is more polite to assume good faith per WP:AGF.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge: per Toadspike, I don't see a convincing argument for keeping both Yuquanying Subdistrict and Yuquanying, the history part of this article, which I guess was added post-nom, can be put in the subdistrict article and this can redirect there. Moritoriko (talk) 09:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not even clear that the administrative region is geographically in the same place as the old village! In fact, it subsumes several old neighbouring villages, possibly. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chinese geography and naming is a bit outside my wheelhouse, but would you say it is likely that the name of the subdistrict was chosen because of the old village? Doing further research on the "18 villages of Fengtai" is not showing me much of anything either, perhaps that information should be put in that article instead. Moritoriko (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly the kind of assumption that leads to misinformation on Wikipedia, particularly with regard to geographical history. Every claim made on Wikipedia should be verifiable per WP:V. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is why I am asking you if this is true, and doing it in the AfD instead of putting it in the article. I'm not going to put unverified information out there >( Moritoriko (talk) 05:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. At minimum, this discussion could be closed as no consensus and if other editors seriously want to pursue a merge discussion, they can start one, though I remain unconvinced from the arguments made above that the now significantly expanded and referenced Yuquanying (covering the 800-year history of Yuquanying village and the surrounding area through the early 21st century) should be merged into the Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article focused on the governance and boundaries of a modern administrative region that was created in 2021. Also, WP:HEY. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Going through the sources added since my last comment here:
- [19] mentions Yuquanying market once, among a list of others. Not SIGCOV.
- [20] mentions that a segment of the Beijing–Kaifeng highway starts at the Yuquanying interchange. Not sigcov.
- [21] is about the local government of Yuquanying Subdistrict, which already has its own article.
- [22] Two photos of Yuquanying, with captions that tell us nothing about the place. Not sigcov.
- [23] mentions Yuquanying Flower Market among a list of others, alongside its opening hours. This is not sigcov; often such coverage promoting businesses/events is also not considered independent.
- [24] is a passing mention, not sigcov, though it does provide the interesting factoid that the Yuquanying Flower Market was "[Beijing's] largest potted flower wholesale market" at the time (in 2003).
- [25] is a government report on a fire at a business (玉泉营环岛家具城, 'Yuquanying Roundabout Furniture City'), not really about the town.
The article Yuquanying Subdistrict doesn't have to meet the GNG because it meets NPLACE, but we can't make the same carveout twice for the same place. I remain unconvinced that we need two separate articles and strongly stand by my original position that these articles should be merged. Toadspike [Talk] 14:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Independent Schools Foundation Academy

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I tagged this article about an independent school with notability concerns in 2023. I have now carried out WP:BEFORE and added a reference to a book which has half a sentence about the school; but I have not found significant coverage in independent secondary sources. I don't think the school meets WP:GNG or WP:NCORP, although I am aware I may be missing sources in Chinese. It was established in 2000 or 2003, so it may be WP:TOOSOON for notability to be demonstrated. Possible redirect targets: List of secondary schools in Hong Kong and the founder, Charles K. Kao. Tacyarg (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Chen Cheng-kuan

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No sources to support notability Stvbastian (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - meets WP:NBADMINTON. --Iiii I I I (talk) 09:22, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But the article fails basic critera WP:SPORTBASIC. Stvbastian (talk) 02:54, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Similarly to Chen Yongrui, delete for lack of sources or actual description about the player. Just because they have won a Super 100 doesn't mean that it's guaranteed for there to be sources about them. The Troutinator - Slap me | 09:40, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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