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Ricardo Javier Ponce Herrera

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Non-notable biography. The article is currently a brief puffery about the subject's work in spiritual/self-healing, sourced to one newspaper advertisement for his trademarked version of spiritual healing. However, when trying to find if sources exist for Ponce, I found quite a bit of coverage; however, it's almost all WP:BLPCRIME so might not establish notability for the encyclopedia: a tabloid(?) article about a 2021 allegation of Ponce leading a cult masked by his healing work^[1] followed by quite a bit of coverage in what appears to be reliable sources of the government taking the allegations seriously and conducting an investigation^[2]^[3] including in some American media^[4] followed by coverage of Ponce's denial of the allegations in Mexican^[5] and American^[6] media. However, I can't tell if there's lasting coverage of this allegation: the most recent information, a 2025 tabloid(?) article, describes por supuestos antecedentes penales de Ricardo Ponce, translating to "Ricardo Ponce's alleged criminal record". Without a conviction, including any of this would probably run afoul of WP:BLPCRIME although a case could be made that the spread to international news might make it notable nonetheless. I'd welcome an editor with better knowledge of Spanish to chime in on the sourcing here. Also worth noting that an article on Ponce has been repeatedly deleted for notability from the Spanish Wikipedia.

References

^ "La youtuber Maire Wink acusó a Ricardo Ponce de crear una secta y abusar sexualmente de mujeres". Infobae (in Spanish). 2021-05-29. Archived from the original on 2021-05-30.
^ Martinez, Rafael (2021-06-03). "Catean hotel en Bacalar tras denuncias de abuso sexual en contra de Ricardo Ponce". El Sol de México (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 2025-06-12.
^ "Indagan denuncias de abuso contra gurú Ricardo Ponce en Quintana Roo". El Siglo de Torreón (in Spanish). 2021-06-03. Archived from the original on 2024-05-04.
^ Pérez, Jazive (2021-06-03). "Del paraíso al infierno del abuso sexual: Revelaciones en un grupo de autosanación en México" (in Spanish). KVEA. Archived from the original on 2021-06-04.
^ Omar Fierro, Juan (2021-06-14). "Ricardo Ponce, el 'gurú de la autosanación', pide no ser crucificado tras denuncia de abuso sexual". Proceso (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 2021-06-14.
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- "Expareja de Ricardo Ponce responde a las acusaciones de abuso sexual en contra del conferencista". Hoy Día (in Spanish). Telemundo. 2021-06-08. Archived from the original on 2021-06-08.
- "Ricardo Ponce se defiende de las acusaciones de abuso sexual y dice que son 'un montaje'". Hoy Día (in Spanish). 2021-10-15. Telemundo. Archived from the original on 2025-06-12.

Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 17:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I know little of Afd, but the sole reference ("First human being to scientifically prove the ability to self-heal", indeed -- same article twice, and the second iteration is 404) reeks of a paid newspaper insert. Moscow Mule (talk) 00:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The sources included in this AFD are reliable sources. The sources in the article appear to be sponsored content as they were written (even one has a "branded content" caption): "La Hekalogía®, "ciencia del poder sanador interior"..." Why would a newspaper add a registered trademark symbol if it weren't being paid by the trademark owner? El Heraldo is archived here. Both shouldn't be considered as reliable here because of that as they fail WP:RSMED as they make the questionable assertion that Hekalogía "demonstrated 'progressive chakra alignment, improved coherence in brain waves, and an increase in the body’s energy field'", in a study that have not been published or peer reviewed. Regarding the sexual abuse accusations, he won his case, so the sources will unduly focus on something that didn't happen. If es.wiki didn't accept this 5 times, and they have a lot of trash, then, why would we? (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:09, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

William Bennest

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WP:BLP of a criminal, not reliably sourced as passing the intentionally high WP:PERP bar. The criminal assertions here are from the 1990s, with absolutely no evidence shown that they're still of any enduring importance in 2025, and the article is referenced entirely to unreliable sources rather than WP:GNG-worthy ones. As always, we are not the town stocks or the sex offender registry, and permanent naming and shaming of otherwise low-profile criminals is not really what we're here for — so as one of the most widely-read websites in the world, we shouldn't be tattooing scarlet letters on a guy who's done his time without much stronger evidence of permanent notability, and much stronger sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete per WP:BLP, WP:BLP1E and per nom, while I could find a dozen news article discussing this case from September 1996 to Feb 1997 and nothing after that, so clearly there is no long term impact of this case. Also these were local newspapers (Medicine Hat News and Lethbridge Herald) so no international coverage. --hroest 18:36, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - while outrageous, this is not encyclopedic. Bearian (talk) 19:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Las Cruces shooting

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Routine gang shooting, no lasting significance WWGB (talk) 01:30, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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On the event, delete gang shootings specifically are very common and virtually never get WP:NEVENT passing coverage. Coverage now is not sufficient and there is no indication this is really unusual.

HOWEVER: What on earth is this page history? This was made in 2011. This appears to have been a page on a park called Young Park, that was then hijacked and had the park information deleted. I have no clue if the park page is notable but I feel uncomfortable deleting it in such a roundabout and improper way. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:39, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy @Albanianrapper: who created the article under discussion. No issue with the nom, the script thought the creator was Doncram because of the original draft he created that was subsequently converted. Star Mississippi 01:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restore this version as a viable draft about Young Park and if the shooting is to be retained, split the histories essentially per nom. The Park's draft should not be impacted by the event. Star Mississippi 01:52, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Restore as suggested by User:Star Mississippi. This was a page about a local park, which was swept up in an event. While the event may not be notable and might well deserve deletion per NEVENT, the local park still exists and its notability is not based on the event. BusterD (talk) 11:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (selectively) into to Las Cruces, New_Mexico#History. We have too little information on the event to sustain the event page and the shooting skipped Las_Cruces, New Mexico#History, where it should first have been mentioned. Without prejudice. There is an interesting proposal above to roll all changes back, yet the park article is way too short to be sustained. Retarget that redirect that to Las Cruces, New Mexico, where it is mentioned. Also without prejudice. gidonb (talk) 22:21, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Qabusiye massacre

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Per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Average kurd and DataNomad, again and it fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NOTNEWS. I couldn't find any sources on this other than the ones currently in use 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:27, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete if no sources besides the one in the article exist. The first source was published two years before the event. The second source is fine, but every source after it is intellectually dependent on it, so that's one total source for sigcov in my eyes. Anerdw (talk) 12:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Skitash (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Seventy-second firman of the Yazidi

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I accepted this at WP:AFC in good faith, but having seen comments on the talk page it seems that the article is contentious, and possibly misleading so bringing it here for a community discussion. Theroadislong (talk) 17:52, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stubify or redirect to persecution of Yazidis. It is likely possible to write some sort of article on this topic, but this one would to be scrapped and rewritten to satisfy WP:VER. I don't object to deletion. On second thought just delete the article; content has enough issues that preserving is more harmful than helpful and I've begun to doubt the notability since all the sources I've found are either passing mentions or derivative of the Six-Hohenbalken paper. It's a shame this topic is not better documented or researched, but we can't change that. (t · c) buidhe 18:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I don't remember well but This article was first named as "Yazidi genocide" and as I do remember it was drafted because of multiple problems, I can see that they changed everything in the draft and then moved to article (Or maybe requested for moving it to articles), and I am right about this, you can check the history editing of the article for my claims about it's old title and topic. Since the creator has been involved in Creating hoax content, I support the deletion of the article, and maybe another good faith editor can re-create it with a better version. R3YBOl (🌲) 18:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Skitash (talk) 18:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The article's creator is known for creating hoaxes here 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:35, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draft this article speaks on a real event but could have some more improvements which is why it should be made into a draft Eternalhk (talk) 15:46, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move to draftspace. The article is clearly not ready, which I thought it was, which was why I submitted the draft for review. I am still trying to make sure the article can work and be on Wikipedia. If you have any problems with the article, please contact me. I will try to fix every part of the article, as I don't believe this article is a hoax either. Thank You.Spino-Soar-Us (talk) 11:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Allegations of ethnic cleansing by Kurdish forces in northern Syria (2015–2016)

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Reads like AI and is created by a user who recently got indeffed for creating hoaxes. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Average kurd and DataNomad, again 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep only if WP:RS are found. Wynwick55gl (talk) 09:05, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Escape of Traitors Act 1572

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Couldn't find any independent reliable secondary coverage. Topic doesn't meet WP:GNG. Legend of 14 (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:HEYMANN. Satisfies GNG and much expanded and improved. Apart from the sources already in the article, it has significant coverage in other books in Google Books and the Internet Archive. For a random example, I could point to Bellamy's Tudor Law of Treason [1]. James500 (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That source only appears to provide a passing mention. Legend of 14 (talk) 22:08, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The source contains significant coverage. James500 (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's like half a paragraph about the act. Legend of 14 (talk) 22:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The coverage in that paragraph is not brief, let alone "a passing mention", and the coverage continues in the next paragraph (so more than half a paragraph). And there are other sources: Willis-Bund is already in the article. James500 (talk) 22:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; have expanded and appears to me to satisfy GNG. Andrew Gray (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Satisfies WP:GNG. It's an Act of Parliament, for crying out loud. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:10, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Treason Act 1399

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Couldn't find sufficient reliable, independent, secondary coverage that this warrants inclusion on Wikipedia under the GNG. Legend of 14 (talk) 14:39, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Satisfies GNG, with significant coverage in books and periodicals in Google Books and the Internet Archive. For random examples, I could point to pp 97, 98 and 130 of Boyer and Nicholls [2], Willis-Bund [3], Stacy [4] and Cox [5]. The Act repealed the Treasons created by Richard II [6] (and his judges). James500 (talk) 13:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY (although as usual I prefer the sources to be added to the article). AfD is not for clean up. If you're really bored and want to clean up articles, go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/June 2025. Bearian (talk) 23:04, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Satisfies WP:GNG. It's an Act of Parliament, for crying out loud. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Legislation about High treason in the United Kingdom that dates from 1399 is notable because of its age and longevity. Finding (on-line?) sources is likely difficult because this legislation pre-dates printed books, so any sources or commentary is likely to be found only in rare books that might not readily available. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 07:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Gabriel

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Has only one source, which is not independent. A before search found [7] and [8], the second of which is the only source I could find which could be considered secondary. Even that, however, is not WP:SIGCOV, as it's about the show rather than the character. He is mentioned in a few books from the show's era, but even those only mention him for a sentence or two (i.e., [9], [10], [11]). I should also mention there is a quicklet produced for the series, but this is just summarizing the plot and it's unclear whether it was produced independently or by the network. Subject fails WP:GNG and is not notable. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Closer#Main cast and characters - I agree with the nomination that there is not sufficient significant coverage of the character in reliable sources to support an article. But redirecting to the cast/character list on the main article on the show is a reasonable WP:ATD. Rorshacma (talk) 19:35, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge to the main article to The Closer#Main cast and characters is sensible, as finding RS seems scarce for this as a standalone, this maybe the closest I found so far , but unfamiliar with the site's Independence or weight.https://www.backstage.com/magazine/article/closers-corey-reynolds-tackles-whatever-role-comes-way-58516/ Lorraine Crane (talk) 22:23, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pirated movie release types

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Fails WP:NLIST, largely original research and what sourced material does exist within the article is sourced to unreliable sources. Previous AfDs were just a WP:VOTE without actual policy debate. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: It's very informative. 2804:38A:A03C:FC45:340D:BFFF:FE2C:5120 (talk) 19:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC) — 2804:38A:A03C:FC45:340D:BFFF:FE2C:5120 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep: 2603:7000:8800:EE11:6D92:F6D9:CF13:FA06 (talk) 23:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC) — 2603:7000:8800:EE11:6D92:F6D9:CF13:FA06 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep: I also agree that it is very informative. This article provides encyclopaedic value by documenting terminology and release patterns that have been widely used and referenced in digital media communities for decades. While improvements in sourcing and structure may be needed, the topic itself is verifiably notable through its sustained use in torrenting platforms, piracy-related discussions, and tech journalism. Deletion appears to be motivated, at least in part, by ideological opposition to the subject matter rather than a neutral assessment of whether this information is citable and informative. Wikipedia’s purpose is to document what exists in the world—not to legitimise or condemn it.— SBWalkerP (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 21:02, 7 June 2025 (UTC) (UTC).[reply]
I am not sure where in the nomination one would find "ideological opposition to the subject matter". If you are implying this is due to edits outside of the discussion, that is a WP:ADHOMINEM personal attack. You have also not provided sources as evidence for your claim it is notable. WP:SOURCESEXIST is not a viable argument. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:06, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It’s clearly an LLM-written vote ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:20, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: We can probably combine all of this into Online piracy. -OXYLYPSE (talk) 17:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: policy based input please
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Merge into Online piracy. May be informative but Wikipedia is not a guide. मल्ल (talk) 04:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I'd argue that this does comply with WP:NLIST. Release types are defined standards complied with by major scene groups - this topic is notable enough to have several papers written that discuss release groups and standards. I absolutely agree with you that new sources need to be found and that this article needs to be rewritten, but deletion isn't the way to go and I don't see a merge as able to do it justice. Manwithbigiron (talk) 16:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed; keep. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sahim Alwan

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WP:BLP1E, the event being Buffalo Six. Article subject has no independent notability outside the Buffalo Six case, where all pertinent information can be covered. WP:SIGCOV is only in the context of the Buffalo Six case.

Also nominating the pages of the other Buffalo Six associates for the same reason:

Longhornsg (talk) 01:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/redirect all there (aka add the sources). No comment on thereoeticsl notability but none of these talk about anything else at the moment. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per BLP1E and GNG. _Dgw|Talk 01:19, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well going by BLP1E we would redirect. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:41, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: We need some more feedback here, especially given that it is a bundled nomination. Merge? Redirect? Or deletion? Or....?
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Trevor Casper

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Tragic but WP:BIO1E and WP:NOTMEMORIAL apply. Sadly law enforcement die while doing their jobs too often. Lost in Quebec (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Wisconsin State Patrol#Fallen officers Noting a possible COI as the subject and I may have crossed paths at the college we attended, but never spoke. I do think with only eight officers of note who died in the line of duty, it would be proper to expand the section regarding their deaths in the WSP article, including Casper's, but the circumstances of his death and youth should result in a redirect to his agency at minimum. Otherwise I do share the nom's issues regarding this being more of a memorial page than a bio. Nathannah • 📮 23:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Crime Proposed deletions

Deletion Review

[Infobae_2021_allegation-1] "La youtuber Maire Wink acusó a Ricardo Ponce de crear una secta y abusar sexualmente de mujeres". Infobae (in Spanish). 2021-05-29. Archived from the original on 2021-05-30.

[Martinez_2021_investigation-2] Martinez, Rafael (2021-06-03). "Catean hotel en Bacalar tras denuncias de abuso sexual en contra de Ricardo Ponce". El Sol de México (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 2025-06-12.

[Siglo_2021_investigation-3] "Indagan denuncias de abuso contra gurú Ricardo Ponce en Quintana Roo". El Siglo de Torreón (in Spanish). 2021-06-03. Archived from the original on 2024-05-04.

[Pérez_2021_investigation-4] Pérez, Jazive (2021-06-03). "Del paraíso al infierno del abuso sexual: Revelaciones en un grupo de autosanación en México" (in Spanish). KVEA. Archived from the original on 2021-06-04.

[Proceso_2021_response-5] Omar Fierro, Juan (2021-06-14). "Ricardo Ponce, el 'gurú de la autosanación', pide no ser crucificado tras denuncia de abuso sexual". Proceso (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 2021-06-14.

[Telemundo_2021_response-6] 
"Expareja de Ricardo Ponce responde a las acusaciones de abuso sexual en contra del conferencista". Hoy Día (in Spanish). Telemundo. 2021-06-08. Archived from the original on 2021-06-08.
"Ricardo Ponce se defiende de las acusaciones de abuso sexual y dice que son 'un montaje'". Hoy Día (in Spanish). 2021-10-15. Telemundo. Archived from the original on 2025-06-12.

[7] "Expareja de Ricardo Ponce responde a las acusaciones de abuso sexual en contra del conferencista". Hoy Día (in Spanish). Telemundo. 2021-06-08. Archived from the original on 2021-06-08.

[8] "Ricardo Ponce se defiende de las acusaciones de abuso sexual y dice que son 'un montaje'". Hoy Día (in Spanish). 2021-10-15. Telemundo. Archived from the original on 2025-06-12.

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