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List of Pokémon characters

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So to clarify here; this list is discussing the human characters in this series. The fictional species are covered at a variety of lists, most notably List of Pokémon. With that out of the way, let me elaborate.

WP:LISTN defines that the notability of lists is inherently dependent on the notability of the group; i.e, a list of human characters in this series needs to have sources discussing human characters as a whole. From my WP:BEFORE search, the only sources covering this as a group are WP:VALNET sources, which do not confer notability per our guidelines. Most hits for things like "Pokémon characters" are discussing the fictional species of Pokémon, not the human characters in the series, and the few that do discuss humans are either not discussing them as a group, discussing only one particular character (Such as Team Rocket), or are VALNET sources. Every Books or Scholar hit I could find was discussing how the Pokémon species have been interpreted, not any of the human characters. The only real potential hit I found is Newsweek discussing LGBT characters [[1]], but even that is just a summary of stuff existing more than an actual analysis.

Compared to the other human character list for this series (List of Pokémon anime characters), which at least has the potential for a WP:SIZESPLIT given how long the anime's gone for with such a large recurring supporting cast, the Pokémon games comparatively have fewer recurring characters. The bulk of the characters, and indeed the bulk on this list, largely only appear in one game, and are relegated to cameos after their debut. While there are a select few recurring entities like Professor Oak or Cynthia (Pokémon), these few characters are exceptions more than the norm. The vast bulk of these characters could easily be redirected to their debut game, with the few recurring characters easily able to be slotted into a smaller, more condensed character list at Pokémon (video game series) that I'd be willing to work on myself. This list should easily be able to slot into that article without causing bloat once all of the one off characters are redirected back to their original articles, which should prevent UNDUE concerns.

In brief, while the Pokémon species are notable, this separate list for other recurring human characters does not have the same group discussion, nor does it have a valid SIZESPLIT spinout rationale. This list could easily be condensed to slot into another article, and thus overall is unnecessary. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and redirect/incorporate characters to their relevant video game articles per nom. -- LWG ^talk 18:45, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Major franchise, several characters (human) are notable, LISN is easily met, I don't see a problem here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:40, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom and LWG. I think I see the logic here. The games never had a 'cast' of characters like one would expect in a conventional narrative game and as such there's not a lot of depth of coverage one would expect for WP:NLIST. Sure, there's a small number of independently notable characters, but in terms of reception and coverage relating to in-game characters, their depth leans much more heavily on how they are portrayed in the anime. There are conventions around the character archetypes of professor, rival, and Elite Four characters from game to game, but:

1. not that many characters actually are notable by the looks of it, and those that are have been subsumed into archetypes rather than specific characters (i.e. Rivals)
2. there aren't really that many sources comparing, discussing or evaluating the broader casts of characters;
3. the characters really aren't that in-depth - for one, Red, a character whose appearance has attracted much secondary coverage, infamously has no dialogue at all in the game; and concurrently
4. this is all fairly simple stuff that can be embedded in a character list as a subsection to the plots of each game article, and the archetypes in the series article.

As the nominator notes, few if any characters really appear consistently across the iterations of the games, with a handful of notable exceptions. So this does feel like an instance where WP:NLIST is arguably not satisfied. What would change my mind on this is if sources are found showing that there is indeed some coverage on the characters as a class. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 05:32, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of international trips made by Humza Yousaf

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Fancruft Polygnotus (talk) 08:05, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Humza Yousaf, there isn't enough there to have a separate article Giuliotf (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Calling this "fancruft" is rather preposterous and not a rationale for deletion. These sorts of lists are common for world leaders nowadays and I would consider a speedy close if you can't bother writing more than one inapplicable word. But I agree with Giuliotf that this is quite short and can be speedily merged to the main article – Premiership of Humza Yousaf#International visits is the obvious place for this. Reywas92^Talk 17:55, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reywas92 So you are saying this is important information that deserves its place in an encyclopedia? Can you explain why? Yousaf went on 4 short trips abroad, nothing of note happened, and he returned safe and sound. I see it as similar to overly detailed descriptions of Pokemon. It would be worth merging if there was something to merge, but there is nothing of substance here. Am I missing something? Was there a diplomatic incident I am unaware of, was he attacked by a rabbit, did he invent Cubism during one of these trips? Polygnotus (talk) 18:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So make that argument upfront, not some meaningless "fancruft." Not sure why you need to make up this random crap about Cubism. Category:Lists of diplomatic trips, Category:Lists of diplomatic visits by heads of state, and Category:Lists of diplomatic visits by heads of government have dozens of these lists, and few of these folks got into diplomatic incidents. So I agree that 4 short trips don't need a standalone article, but yes, this is still certainly encyclopedic information relevant to his premiership and inclusion in that article is more than appropriate. I'm rather baffled by the suggestion that there's nothing of substance here: the Brussels trip is already covered at Premiership of Humza Yousaf#European Union, and working on climate issues and British–Irish collaboration are important actions taken by a premier. — Reywas92^Talk 19:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reywas92 British–Irish? I guess that would be worth reporting on. Yousaf is Scottish. Would it surprise you if I told you that those cats are full of unencyclopedic fancruft?

If nothing out of the ordinary happened during those trips, and he just went there, shook a few hands and had a few conversations (which is his job) and then returned home without any incident, then what is there to report on for an encyclopedia, other than the bland fact that it happened? And we certainly don't need a separate article for what can be described in a sentence or two on the BLP.

If he invented Cubism, got attacked by a rabbit, or got caught on a hot mic calling Kim Jong Il "adorable" which caused a diplomatic incident then at least there would be something to write about and then we could have a stand-alone article about the North Korean declaration of war against Scotland. Polygnotus (talk) 20:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"full of unencyclopedic fancruft" Okay, feel free to nominate them all for deletion. Sorry people think it's relevant to report what our political leaders do for their jobs. Bye! — Reywas92^Talk 20:19, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it is relevant to report what he does for his job, which is why I haven't nominated Humza Yousaf for deletion, but I don't see why we need a separate article about his 4 trips. If he had made 50 trips and there was a lot to say about each one and a lot of media coverage then WP:SPLITTING would be a good idea. I don't think that is the case here. Please see Wikipedia:Splitting#When_to_split. Polygnotus (talk) 20:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And I already agreed that a separate article is unnecessary... — Reywas92^Talk 05:10, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of U.S. states and territories by median wage and mean wage

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Page is nearly empty. There is a better article for this: List of U.S. states and territories by income. Timeshifter (talk) 14:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment It looks like it had a table before. diff The table was removed due to a lack of verification. – The Grid (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch. Since the tables all used US Bureau of Labor Statistics data, their removal appears to have been in error. I will go ahead and restore them so that we can accurately review this article. Rublamb (talk) 16:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rublamb. It was not an error. See my comment below. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Before it removal, the text indicated that the tables used statistics from the US Bureau of Labor. This is an allowable way to cite a source. Thus, the deletion was in error. Regardless, the content now has adequate, reliable sources. Rublamb (talk) 23:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rublamb. See my reply to you farther down. The 2 sources you added do not apply. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Keep per the WP:HEYMANN, as the article now has content that makes sense and is sourced. Rublamb (talk) 17:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but definitely needs maintenance to bring it up to 2025. --Burroughs'10 (talk) 17:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. @Burroughs'10 and Rublamb: I think you all are missing the point. List of U.S. states and territories by income is a much better, and longer article with more tables. I removed the poorly referenced median wage map and table (that I created) from that article too. The CNBC reference for them mentions US Bureau of Labor Statistics in passing but it doesn't link to the exact source, nor mention whether it is for full-time workers, or both full and part-time workers. I assume it is both, because as someone pointed out on the talk page there is a firm BLS source showing a much higher median full-time wage for the US as a whole. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:59, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case, than there are two options that are preferable an AfD, according to WP:DELETE. One is to MERGE the two articles, making sure that the content here is included or updated in the other article. (See WP:ATD-M). The other option is to tag this as needing to be updated. (see WP:ATD-T) The content is not that out of date, since U.S. Census data always runs at least a year behind its release date. For example, the 2023 data cited here was published in 2024. As it stands, your nomination for lack on content has been addressed. Rublamb (talk) 23:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rublamb. The map and tables you added back do not meet WP:Verify, as I said in my edit summaries, and on the talk page, and here. The 2 references you added do not apply to the map or the tables you added back. Household median income is not personal median income. And the other link did not have any state data. Could you please revert your additions. Then I can merge the empty page easier via WP:ATD-T as you suggested, and then redirect the page. And please change your vote to delete. So that when I redirect the page there will likely be no objections. Otherwise I may have to merge bad tables/map, only to have to delete them (again) from the better article. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since I added a source for median income to a table about median income, I don't understand your objection. I think you need to wait to see the outcome of the AfD. WP:DELETE specifies that merging cannot be used as a way to delete content or to delete an article. Rublamb (talk) 00:03, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rublamb. I previously wrote: "Household median income is not personal median income." The 2023 annual media wage table is for personal, not household, median wage. Do you know the difference?

The link you just added for the 2022 annual mean wage table does not have data matching the table. Look up Alabama for example in your reference. The data does not match the table data. None of the references for the 2022 table support WP:Verify for that table. WP:Verify says: "Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one may be removed." That is why I removed that table previously. It still does not have a reliable citation. Why are you adding back unverified tables? That is a violation of Wikipedia policies. Please self-revert. I could remove it and not violate any rules, but I don't want an edit war with you. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:53, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of philosophies

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WP:LISTCRUFT with no clear inclusion criteria, but generally when someone uses the plural "philosophies" it means they're selling you something that doesn't work on daytime tv, this should be soft-deleted/redirected to Outline of philosophy Psychastes (talk) 23:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge. Lots of overlap with Glossary of philosophy, could merge there. I’ll keep it, though. Hyperbolick (talk) 00:53, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
got any rationale for keeping, or WP:JUSTAVOTE? Psychastes (talk) 01:27, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure it meets WP:NLIST by leaps and bounds. Hyperbolick (talk) 03:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Redirect: this page is like the outline or glossary pages but worse because it is just alphabetical with no additional information. If the ability to hover over a link to see a preview didn't exist it would be useless. Moritoriko (talk) 03:45, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Would be happy with a redirect if missing items were added to the glossary. They have hundreds more links in common then disperate. Hyperbolick (talk) 03:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - Though the list needs a better format, I think there is no reason for deletion. Koshuri ^(グ) 13:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Belgian provinces by life expectancy

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WP:NOTDATABASE，the article looks like data tables? 日期20220626 (talk) 00:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The page really has a weak point that it contains little description. But that means that the description should be added. Deletion of the whole atricle with true and virified statistics for the topic, designed in convenient form, instead of adding the description is not a good strategy.

Possible solution: mark the page as a stub. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Possible solution: blow it up and start over again. Bearian (talk) 22:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there is a person who will start it over again. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of words with the suffix -ology

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Articles for deletion/List of words ending in ology

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary. There is already a suitable page for redirect. Insanityclown1 (talk) 21:57, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to -logy. There is no great and compelling reason why this content could not be maintained as a section of the existing article with that header. BD2412 T 21:59, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The compelling reason is WP:NOTDICT, which I elaborate on below. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep or Merge: WP:NOTDICT allows for articles such as this. I think the confusion here is that this is a list article that happens to include definitions as secondary information. That is easy to solve as WP:NOTDICT says: "Both dictionaries and encyclopedias contain definitions." Quoting from WP:WORDISSUBJECT: "In some cases, a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject. In these cases, the word or phrase in and of itself passes Wikipedia's notability criteria as the subject of verifiable coverage by reliable sources. As with any subject, articles on words must contain encyclopedic information. That is, such articles must go beyond what would be found in a dictionary entry (definition, pronunciation, etymology, use information, etc.)". This "article on words" includes an introduction with secondary sources, many of which cover the general topic of ology words. This meets the threshold for notability and WP:STANDALONE. This could be even better met by merging as suggested above. Furthermore, the majority of the terms in this list are already in Wikipedia, indicating notability above that of typical Wiktionary entries. Finally, there is a long precedent for lists relating to words in Wikipedia. Lists of English words provides some examples, as will a search for the various categories for lists of words. Rublamb (talk) 01:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is a misreading of NOTDICT. Please see my explanation below. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I requested this at WT:AFD, but apparently someone else nominated it without my nom statement, which I'm copying below:
Contested WP:BLAR. This list is a clear violation of WP:NOTDICT. There is no underlying concept for the list here, merely words that share a particular suffix. We shouldn't have this list more than we should have lists for every possible suffix (or prefix) in English (not to mention German, Swahili, etc etc). There's nothing special about this particular suffix that warrants a list like this. The little bit of possibly encyclopedic content in the intro is already covered at the article on -logy (which I'm still a little skeptical about, but it's at least near the border, not 20 miles past it).
To elaborate on the NOTDICT failure a little, note that this is akin to the example there which indicates that "rocket" has a single entry at Wiktionary, while it has multiple pages at Wikipedia (salad rocket, rocket engine, rocket vehicle, etc). Here we have words like both "biology" and "technology", which have the same suffix, but that suffix has a different meaning in each -- indeed, the lead of the list even points out this fact.
Likewise, there are words which share the same underlying suffix of -logy (which -ology is merely a form of), like wikt:archelogy (not archaeology!), which is still a field of study, but has the alternate form of the suffix. This is akin to another red flag indicated at NOTDICT (words with different spellings but the same meaning should be at the same article). Ditto for words like "trilogy".
And to add a bit based on the above merge proposal, I would specifically oppose that, since there's nothing to merge here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 02:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thems the breaks. If you want to nominate things without another editor exercising discretion in the process you can register an account. Jahaza (talk) 02:30, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As described in the article's lede, the connection between the components of this list is that words ending in "ology" or "logy" are about a field of study or discipline. There might be a few exceptions that are included for completionism and educational purposes, but these do not diminish the overall concept behind this list. The differing meanings come from the front half of the word, not the suffix. Rublamb (talk) 05:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Except that's not the connection, as I mentioned above, as there are words with this suffix that are not a field of study or discipline, such as "technology" (there are others, too). And there are plenty of fields of study that don't use either suffix, such as physics, economics, etc etc. The only actual link here is a suffix, which violates NOTDICT, both in letter and spirit, for the reasons I explained above. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 11:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The common thread is defined in the cited secondary sources and in the topic's main article. Oxford Languages dictionary defines technology as "the branch of knowledge dealing with engineering or applied sciences". Thus, it is a field of study. We could essentially rename this article "List of fields of study" which is actually an interesting approach. Then, this would be a glossary that has a more obvious reason for being complied. The definitions, which are secondary content in this article, could also be removed, which is something I considered doing a while back. I believe that would also solve your dictionary-ish concerns. Rublamb (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: The article in question was nominated for deletion previously. This AfD should likely be updated to mention that more prominently. DonIago (talk) 04:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, but you could have just done so yourself. Note that it was speedily kept more on procedural grounds than anything else, running only about 90 minutes, so is more than ripe for a new discussion. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 04:15, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I could have, if I'd known how to. DonIago (talk) 06:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or merge, based upon the above discussion. Bearian (talk) 17:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and do not merge. Merging this indiscriminate list would damage the proposed target, and it is a clear case of WP:NOTDICT. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think this is best thought of as a set index WP:SETINDEX and is useful for navigation. Jahaza (talk) 18:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SIA pretty clearly explains why this isn't one. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid pointing to an entire article doesn't really explain what your objection is. Jahaza (talk) 22:20, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge Redlinks that don't go to an article about a respective study should probably be removed, but this is an appropriate navigational list. Reywas92^Talk 19:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not valid as a navigational list any more than "Articles that end in -ism" is valid for the reasons I described above...or articles that start with "metro-" ...or pick any old random prefix or suffix. Are you saying "technology" should be removed? What about "archelogy" (the example I gave above, which doesn't end in -ology, but is a field of study). What about "physics"? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not even a dictionary would touch this. -logy only lists relatively frequently used words like trilogy, tetralogy, etc. It doesn't branch out further afield, nor should it begin now (or ever). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube suspensions

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Fails WP:NLIST—I cannot find any sources discussing persons or channels suspended from YouTube as a group. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article also appears to contain factual errors—at random, the inclusion of Shane Dawson is false, as the source says his channel was demonetized, not suspended. Such falsehoods could constitute BLP violations. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:05, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is okay to delete this list. If there is a lack of reliable, secondary sources about how many channels have been suspended from YouTube, then it might be strange to have an article listing YouTube suspensions. Plus, this article has been so big that, unless if one watches it, it has been hard to detect the multiple issues against Wikipedia's policy on the biographies of living persons that the article attracts. The suspensions from YouTube may already be mentioned on articles about channels or people with YouTube channels.

So...

you can delete this. CarlFilip19 (talk) 08:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I really couldn't find anything on this list as a whole. Granted, some of the individual entries on this list are cited with legitimate sources, I feel their entries should not constitute a whole article list. Conyo14 (talk) 16:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:LISTN. Someone will surely argue it's important soon. But it really isn't. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of television and radio stations owned by TV5 Network

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Fails WP:NLIST as sources do not talk about the stations as a whole. Most of the stations do not have Wikipedia pages and some that do should be sent to AfD as well (including some that have no sources at all). CNMall41 (talk) 07:19, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom + WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Possibly Merge summary/overview (not yet written) into TV5 Network Inc. Jdcooper (talk) 22:57, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The TV5 Network Inc. does not provide any listing TV stations on their annual reports. Only on the NTC TV stations as of December 2024. Vineyard93 (talk) 02:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does the NTC list count as reliable? RandomMe98 (talk) 09:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia requires reliable sources. IP range blocked for tiresome pinging. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:20, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ohnoitsjamie: it's the same compulsive over-tagger we were discussing recently. Jdcooper (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is tough about this list is that we have to deal with infrequent NTC list updates exfiltrated through Freedom of Information Act requests. They can confirm existence at least. And then we have many many stations where there is insufficient material to pass GNG because of poor source availability, even sometimes when a station has been on for decades. This is a useful redirect target at AfD, and while I understand if people have qualms over sourcing, this page resolves lots of thorny problems. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 02:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of hospitals in the United Arab Emirates

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Does not meet WP:NLIST, is contrary to WP:NOTDIRECTORY. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 04:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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comment There are lists for most nations; I'm not seeing how this one is necessarily different from the rest. Mangoe (talk) 21:18, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd point to WP:OTHER if anyone has similar thoughts. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 22:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine if you wish to propose this as a test case for deleting the lot (which I wouldn't oppose), but otherwise I think an explanation how this one is going to be worse than the others is in order. Mangoe (talk) 01:01, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Alpha Sigma Phi chapters

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Doesn't meet WP:NLIST, because it hasn't been discussed as a group. It's a collection of links to external sites, hence WP:NOTREPOSITORY applies. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 19:40, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep I fail to see how the chapters of a National Fraternity don't constitute a group, there are *no* external Links outside the References (which is where they should be) and Alpha Sigma Phi doesn't have chartering dates at a single web page (like most fraternities and sororities do) and as such, a larger number of references are needed, which doesn't affect whether the page should exist anyway.Naraht (talk) 20:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NLIST says: One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources I don't think the various chapters have been discussed as a group. The references are just links to individual universities that have a chapter. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 20:21, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: This nomination is in error. This article has at least two secondary sources that cover the chapters of Alpha Sigma Phi as a group. One is a Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities, the main authority on all Greek letter organizations for more than 100 years. Alpha Sigma Phi was included in every edition of Baird's, including the edition(s) cited in this article. The second source is the Almanac of Fraternities and Sororities, a scholarly project of the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. As is the typical positioning with sources that cover all entries in a table, these sources are provided in the lede above the table. In addition, the links within the table/list go to other Wikipedia articles, such as the main article about Alpha Sigma Phi and the various colleges and cities that host chapters, not external websites. Also, there is a precedent of moving long lists of fraternity, sorority, and honor society chapters to a secondary list article, rather than maintaining the list in the main organizational article. List of Alpha Sigma Phi chapters is a good example of a list that is simply too long to functionally work in the main article about the fraternity. Both WP:FRAT and WP:UNI have a preference for this type of list over including content in the main university article or the main Greek letter organization article. In short, this article not only meets the requirements for notability and a list article, but is also the preference of the main WikiProjects that oversee this content. Rublamb (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep: I also concur that this is a ridiculous nomination. The AfD nomination came out of nowhere, on specious claims of a lack of discussion and references. The references are simple to fix, and one need not delete!, delete!, delete! in such cases to resolve the problem. Our Project group fixes, polices and improves the articles in our area of interest and expertise (some 3,500) methodically and via consensus. As a significant, nationally known fraternity, with chapters on many campuses that are recognized by their student life administration, many of which have existed for more than 50 years with multiple available references, this group and its individual chapters are notable. This designation is consistent with other articles, prior editing practice, consensus, and Wikipedia editing policies. The nominator is not a Project participant, but merely is taking an arbitrary shot at the article without understanding.

Other Project editors are currently working on reference improvements, and have clarified why this article was correctly spun off as a subordinate article to the main Alpha Sigma Phi article. A very clear rationale. Jax MN (talk) 23:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdrawing nomination. It is going to be kept per WP:SNOW anyway, no need to keep it open and clutter AfD. It was a mistake to nominate it and I am going to be more careful with my AfD nominations in the future. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 13:48, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Rublamb (talk) 16:01, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Quebec Maritimes Junior Hockey League arenas

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This list fails to meet WP:LISTN for a standalone list. The only sources cited here are QMJHL Arena Guide (personal web site by a hockey fan and not reliable), and Stadiumjourney.com which is essentially a database for stadiums. Although components of this list could be cited, without independent reliable sources, this list is not notable or encyclopedic. An option would be to merge the information into the league's article. Flibirigit (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Seriously? Aside from the nom's cogent arguments, and that there's nothing out there discussing these as a group as LISTN requires, compiling this for a junior league fails the cruft test. Ravenswing 11:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of firewalls

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Only one reference of dubious reliability. The topic may arguably meet WP:NLIST, yes, but what we have here is 99% WP:OR (likely obsolete, too). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems a legit thing to have, would be surprised if no good sources compare. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Appears to be almost entirely original research, therefore its accuracy is very unclear. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This is original research. desmay (talk) 16:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Paprikaiser (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Recurring characters in the Hercule Poirot stories

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De facto a a list of minor fictional characters, but just a plot summary and comments on who played them in some movies and such. Mostly unreferenced. Not seeing how this meets WP:NLIST and such. Possible WP:ATD-R is Hercule Poirot, I assume at least one of these characters is mentioned there, and there are likely redirects to this list. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep but move and give this major cleanup. Wynwick55gl (talk) 08:34, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

— Wynwick55gl (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. . Their argument seems pointless - move to where? The user has even made a userpage "self-identifying" as a SPA, making it seem more like a block evader than anything else. Geschichte (talk) 08:45, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of tambon in Thailand - N (Part 2)

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I am also nominating the following related page:

If I understand correctly, these "Part 2" and "Part 3" articles are redundant with the content of List of tambon in Thailand (N–O). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - isn't it against Wikipedia to have "Part 2 articles"? Either way, it's unencyclopedic to have them. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 06:44, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It seems that the person who created these forks never performed a proper split, resulting in orphaned duplicates. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:33, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now that you mention it, I notice the creator's user talk page has a section about unnecessary undiscussed article splits, and the user has not edited in about 8 years. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:55, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:52, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of endemic flora of Indonesia

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This list article was started in 2011 and not much worked on after. A number of species on the list have since been renamed. A number of species are not confined to Indonesia. The basis of the list, being endemic to such a large and diverse country as Indonesia, seems contradictory to endemism's usually limited scope. There are numerous large islands of high endemism and biodiversity in the country: e.g. Sumatra, Borneo, New Guinea etc., for which there are appropriate categories, e.g. Category:Flora of Sumatra and which could form the basis of better list articles. Declangi (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete just a list, which is almost the same as the category list. --Moem-Meom (talk) 00:43, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete We have plenty of "endemic flora/fauna of X" articles, but all of those are restricted to manageable scales. This isn't - probably; I could be proven wrong. But in that case, the current unreferenced and heterogeneous mess is not a suitable basis for such an article. Delete, with no prejudice viz recreation from scratch with care and responsible sourcing. In the meantime, and probably sufficiently so, we have equivalent categories. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:41, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Uma Musume Pretty Derby characters

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Fails WP:NLIST. Character info are mostly unsourced with release info sources being unreliable. Not a plausible search term to be redirected. Go D. Usopp (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Massive plotcruft, no context given. WP:INDISCRIMINATE failed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:NLIST. I've seen similar lists survive deletion before, but that's where the sourcing covers the entire information presented, and doesn't go overboard with plot minutiae. Given the principle that plot is generally self-sourced from the work, the first part is more fatal to WP:NLIST than the latter. It is way too much though. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 12:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. The article was split from the main Uma Musume Pretty Derby article last March, which had 223k bytes prior to the split, and the character list made up a good chunk of that at the time. While I'm not sure if the list as is is particularly well written, I also don't think that merging it back in to the main article would be helpful for the average reader, let alone deleting the article outright with no explanation of who makes an appearance. --Jnglmpera (talk) 07:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the appropriate decision would have been to significantly trim the list instead of spinning it out. IgelRM (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SURMOUNTABLE. These characters are mentioned in reliable sources (as used in the article and per WP:A&M/ORS) which include Anime News Network, Nikkan Sports, Comic Natalie and Oricon. In my opinion the character list needs to be trimmed down to just the main characters with character descriptions taken from the WP:RS. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mentions alone aren't enough, the sources need to be significantly in-depth on the characters specifically for notability. IgelRM (talk) 21:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I narrowed the article's scope to just include the horse girl characters. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of military attachés and war correspondents in World War I

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What possible reason is there to join two distinct groups in a "list" that is not a list, when the two groups have their own separate lists? Clarityfiend (talk) 12:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzling: I see now in the talk page that the decision was made in 2022 to split the list in two. However, is still retaining an article (of sorts) the only way to keep the edit history? Clarityfiend (talk) 12:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The attribution history must be preserved, one way or another. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article cannot be deleted, since the historical attribution before the split must be preserved. But the article is not needed now that both lists are split. So I guess options are either pick a redirect target somehow, or turn this into a brief disambigation page. MarioGom (talk) 15:18, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Get rid of this page but in a way that enables us to preserve the attribution history. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RåFILM film collective

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Fails WP:ORG. The article seems to be created here as only for promotion with only one self-published source being repeated after RåFILM was deleted as WP:G11. Agent 007 (talk) 17:57, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ya it looks like but it also contain some information this author might change the tone and make it informative Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 18:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Manthanvashistha009 How did you know before-hand ? Agent 007 (talk) 19:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per nom. Main subject seems to be Detained (2015) which does not have significant media coverage. Everything else seems extraneous. I fixed the structure of the page, but I don't think it has a place on Wikipedia. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 01:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The organization creates impactful films on social, environmental, and humanitarian issues. Their documentaries are widely cited and used by NGOs and academic institutions. Focusing on marginalized communities and public awareness, these films serve as powerful educational tools and continue to inspire positive change through storytelling. Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 19:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Manthanvashistha009 Why are you using ChatGPT like tools to reply. Are you being paid by RåFILM or related to Eduwriter189? Agent 007 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

no i am not related to any of these Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

can u guys let me know which part make it promotional and how should i maintain the neutrality Eduwriter189 (talk) 19:15, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People have already adviced you many times on your talk-page. Agent 007 (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Article is using only primary sourcing, not acceptable. I can only find one passing mention [2].. We has next to nothing for sources, so just nothing to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - at this time way too little mentions in media. Primary sourcing is not enough.BabbaQ (talk) 08:14, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - blatant COI. Deb (talk) 08:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but Stubify - I have found several sources in Swedish media that cover Råfilm and things they have done. Even excluding coverage entirely about their films (I'm not sure if they count, it is about their productions) there are two in Sydsvenskan: [3] [4] and one in Proletären: [5].
I agree that the current article needs severe cleanup, and we should start from a clean slate by stubifying it. AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:18, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage of their films: [6] [7] [8] AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:20, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the article has been proposed for deletion because it is written promotionally, not because it's not notable. Deb (talk) 12:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ORG is a notability criteria. Stubifying solves the promotional content and I believe it is notable otherwise. AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with stubification, At least with the current title and topic. I feel Detained/Forväret (2015) is the main subject but it does not meet WP:NFILM. You can find more if you search it's Swedish title (Forväret) but I couldn't find any coverage from non-promotional sources. That would be the only path to notability for Räfilm as it has received. I don't believe the limited semi- promotional swedish language sources are sufficient for stubification. I think the Swedish language sources also support that Forväret is the main notable topic , not Råfilm. This might be a good candidate to move to the Swedish language Wikipedia. If it is retained on English Wikipedia, I think reducing it to a stub about Forväret is the best move. There are plenty of indie films on Wikipedia that are notable but do not have notable studios or creators per WP:ORG InvisibleUser909 (talk) 04:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No need to keep this list since the main article is gone. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 15:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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