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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of the page are available at

Information on the process

What may be nominated for deletion here:

  • Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS: (in the unlikely event it ever contains a page that is not a redirect or one of the 6 disambiguation pages), Event: and the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
  • Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletion

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace
  • If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} if it is a userpage, or {{db-author}} or {{db-g7}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?
  • Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace
  • Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding {{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~  to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}.
  • Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
  • Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages
  • Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere.
  • Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages
  • It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.
  • WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication.
  • Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD
  • Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

How to list pages for deletion

Shortcut

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.
Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd}}

or

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.
If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use {{subst:mfd-inline}} so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.
Use {{subst:mfd-inline|GroupName}} for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
    For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    {{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~

    to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions

XFD backlog
V Mar Apr May Jun Total
CfD 0 0 37 42 79
TfD 0 0 12 10 22
MfD Lua error in Module:XfD_old/AfD_and_MfD at line 34: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil). Lua error in Module:XfD_old/AfD_and_MfD at line 34: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil). Lua error in Module:XfD_old/AfD_and_MfD at line 34: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil). Lua error in Module:XfD_old/AfD_and_MfD at line 34: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil). Lua error in Module:XfD_old/AfD_and_MfD at line 34: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil).
FfD 0 0 2 7 9
RfD 0 0 0 35 35
AfD 0 0 0 0 0

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.


Active discussions

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2008-07-10

2008-07-09

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The result of the debate was keep because the user removed the questionable content, making the original nomination moot. --Jaysweet (talk) 12:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jtankers

Blatant WP:SOAP violation. Jaysweet (talk) 17:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you have some common civility and request compliance. I am more than happy to comply with any admin request. I immediately removed any content I thought might be in violation of WP:SOAP as soon as this was brought to my attention via this action. --Jtankers (talk) 01:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Background: I am and editor of Safety_of_the_Large_Hadron_Collider fighting censorship of papers from professors of Math, Physics and other theoretical sciences questioning safety arguments made by CERN. I also assist with legal efforts in US Federal Court against defendent in default CERN seeking reasonable proof of safety prior to operation. I also am the founder and co-administrator of LHCFacts.org. I have been reported today by CERN supporters including a CERN employee who is also a Wikipedia admin. Does this smell like WP:COIN to anyone else?)
  • Keep - User is a single purpose account with a strong bias toward a particular set of fringe theories. His talk page was a problem before because it was cluttered, but that's been cleaned up now. His user page helps to make his POV known. (Aside: Jtankers, please drop the persecution hyperbole - it's unbecoming). -- Mark Chovain 02:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep. Tikiwont (talk) 07:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:A.Z./Imagine

Personal essays of an editor indef-blocked for pedophilia advocacy and wikilawyering. Not useful in any way.

Also included -
  • User:A.Z./Administrators
  • User:A.Z./Give examples - JohnnyMrNinja 09:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep These essays don't have anything to do with pedophilia, and looking at his talk page, there appear to be a couple of people who disagree with the indef block. I'm not willing to erase all traces of his presence on Wikipedia and turn him into an unperson. --Groggy Dice T | C 20:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. We do not practice damnatio memoriae on Wikipedia. --Carnildo (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - It was inappropriate of me to mention pedophilia and I apologize. My main point was that the user in indefinitely blocked, and these essays only serve to add further clutter to Category:User essays. Imagine and Administrators are just standing points against administrators. Give examples was moved from WP space because it was felt that it wasn't useful there, so what (with the User gone) makes it useful here? JohnnyMrNinja 04:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd agree that of the essays, only "Administrators" (which is not a criticism of specific admins, but of the process for promoting and demoting them) develops its points in detail. However, low quality is not normally grounds for deleting userspace essays, and I'm simply not comfortable with deleting the contents of a user who was not a vandal or spam account, and whose only block before the indef block was a 24-hour block from months before. We can agree that pedophilia is bad, but what's next? We already have a former Arbitrator who thinks it should be an indef-blockable offense to doubt global warming. I'd hate to think that if I ran afoul of some hot-button topic of the future, I could suddenly be indef-blocked for "pro-yellowist advocacy," and then have my userspace exterminated. --Groggy Dice T | C 12:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Per WP:UW, "Talk pages of indefinitely blocked users should be cleared of all content except the block notice.". While this isn't a user talk page, is there any reason we SHOULDN'T simply blank the page? DigitalC (talk) 07:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I'm pretty much opposed to deleting user pages of indef users that are not problematic. -- Ned Scott 05:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - The block had nothing to do with bad faith, trolling, etc.; there'd be no point in deleting these subpages. — xDanielx T/C\R 06:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. A block, and reasons for the block, are not relevent. The pages have clear use. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but remove from categories. The essays are in userspace, and (at least somewhat) fall within such guidelines. That said, essays of an indef blocked user should probably not be categorised. - jc37 21:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Time to clean up extended. I don't feel that this counts as a "well-written essay" (looks like a longwinded rant), but regardless, it dosen't seem that too much care has gone into this piece. Let's compromise: those folks who really wish to see it retained, take one week to clean it up a bit (sections, links, emphases, tone, etc.). If, however, no one bothers, the page will be deleted. Remind me. El_C 11:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more-or-less satisfiedwith the cleaning efforts, now it's a bit more readable. It is unfortunate that some people treat policy as an end in itself rather as an instrument to an end. Those who did provide help are thanked. The amended result of the debate was page kept. El_C 18:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:C.m.jones/Wikipedia:I bid you adieu

Personal "essay", a story about why the user would rather use non-free images of living persons. User is an indef-blocked sock puppet. JohnnyMrNinja 08:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Personal ramblings of a sock puppet. No use in keeping around. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per TenPoundHammer. DigitalC (talk) 07:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Better than "personal ramblings," this is a well-written essay that explains the frustration of many editors with our fair-use policy. It's helpful in reminding us old hands that there are many people who begin editing who don't understand the GFDL, who don't understand "free as in freedom," who don't understand that their contributions can be used in for-profit derivative works, and thus who don't understand why Wikipedia can't follow "educational" standards of fair use. If he weren't indef-blocked for alleged sockpuppetry, there would be no question of deleting this essay. --Groggy Dice T | C 12:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per TenPoundHammer. Garion96 (talk) 13:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Wikipedia-related essay. -- Ned Scott 05:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but rename to remove Wikipedia: from the page name essentially per Groggy Dice. Our rationale for deleting talk or user pages of indef banned users (sockpuppets and others) is based on two tenets - a) do not provide a platform for (or recognition for) disruption, and b) often no need to maintain detailed records of a communication channel with users who are no longer part of the community. We do not go and delete their reasonable contributions to the mainspace or their past contributions to discourse on policy, only sometimes reverting their future contributions if they avoid their ban and no-one who is not banned is willing to take responsibility for those edits. This is a perfectly reasonable essay on a topic of some importance. It is one person's essay and so it is correctly housed in user space. There is no compelling reason to delete it. Martinp (talk) 13:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Martinp puts it very well. — xDanielx T/C\R 06:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now, per Groggy Dice. Although, this appears to be fake. I checked the contribs of this sockpuppet, and the puppeteer, and this does not appear to have happened. --Pwnage8 (talk) 18:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete —Reedy 16:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Tales of

Also nominated: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tales of.

This is another clean up effort for the Video games' inactive project clean up task force. The page nominated has been tagged as inactive since February 2008 and has no substantive edit history on either the main page or the talk page, which similarly indicates little to no interest. Should interest arise, I also believe that it would work better as a task force of WP:VG.

If someone wants to, they can recreate it in the future, but with so few edits (12 in total?, a few of which are bot edits), I see no reason to do so. Even redirecting isn't really plausible with no sizable edit history, I feel. Izno (talk) 05:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Non-proposed or supported project. It doesn't even appear to be filled-out properly. Note that the editor in question still appears to be very active in "Tales of" articles, though when the project was mentioned at WT:VG (by myself) there was no other interest expressed. If, at some point, interest does arise, it can be re-created. JohnnyMrNinja 08:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I'd equate this to the WikiProject Dynasty Warriors (MfD). It is a small scope project that never really got off the ground for what ever reason. There is no discussion history (2 edits: 1 bot notice and 1 page move), the project page only has a short history of design edits and Wikipedia related maintenance. At the very least, it could be moved to a task force under WP:VG, but I'm in favor of deleting it. And as Izno has stated, it would probably work better as a task force should interest increases down the road. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
    I actually borrowed some of your phraseology from that particular MfD. Hope you don't mind. :) --Izno (talk) 21:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not at all. The wording and reasoning work here as well, and I agree with it completely. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
  • Delete: For the reasons above. I think that it's lack of history, content and inactivity means that it is unnecessary and unsuitable to redirect. Natcong (talk) 20:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Unsupported project that can easily be recreated if interest picks up. DigitalC (talk) 07:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Page deleted. Unfortunately, we've done more than enough to accommodate difficulties with learning curve. Userpage displaying fairuse image, and several deleted ones, compell me to send a more stern message. El_C 11:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Maybelyn02

This user is copying other articles (such as Central Nervous System) and pasting the entirety of them into the user page, categories and all included. This adds the user page to several categories in which it does not belong, and a quick glance at the user's talk page shows that this person is not receptive to any sort of advice or warnings, regardless of how many times the categories are removed from the page. Proposing deletion, and a blacklisting of the user page's name so it cannot be recreated. kaoskastle (Talk) 04:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't seem like anyone's explained anything related to the categories on their userpage. -- Ned Scott 04:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note, a few days ago I posted on their talk page saying "Hey, this is the problem, please fix it", and, well... They edited the user page again, adding five more categories and completely erasing the deletion template. --kaoskastle (Talk) 16:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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2008-07-08

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The result of the debate was Keep as already blanked. — MaggotSyn 23:48, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Risnangl

Wikipedia is not a social networking site. § Lights talk 18:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep it's a user talk page of a user who's just become active. Remove the chatter and leave them a note about not using the talk page for non-wikipedia chit chat. If they keep it up then we at least have a record of them doing it before, and it will be easier to real with the problem in the long run. -- Ned Scott 04:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ned Scott. DigitalC (talk) 07:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Deleted. Inactivity. Feel free to recreate when activity seems more likely. El_C 11:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tristam/WikiProject Dragon Quest

Starter page for a now inactive Wikiproject (not the project page itself. Appears to confuse the bots and places itself in real categories. Hasn't been touched since 2006. If the editor wishes keep it, it should be renamed to not include "WikiProject" and not confuse the poor bots. JohnnyMrNinja 16:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom.--§ Lights talk 18:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep If a bot is editing this simply because it contains the word "WikiProject" then that is a different problem altogether. Normally I would say delete, since there really isn't anything to keep that would be of interest, but since it's in the userspace I don't see the need. -- Ned Scott 04:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete (this isnt going to get kept...) —Reedy 16:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Linuraj

Wikipedia is not a free webhost. User has made no contributions except to create and maintain his resume on this page. Peacock (talk) 12:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Page kept. Consensus is that this (indeed, superfluous) individual setup isn't causing any harm or confusion. El_C 11:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:LAAFan/Wikipedia Welcome Squad

Just a copy of the Wikipedia Welcoming Comittee. There isn't any need for this. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign Listen 12:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note This was nominated for deletion before User:LAAFan was renamed. Look at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Fan/Wikipedia Welcome Squad. Thank you. -- RyRy (talk) 12:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Since I'm the creator of the page, I'm not sure my !vote will mean much, but I believe the Squad should be a keep. While the page itself needs to be renovated, I am actively trying to get new members. (Two see my welcomes, go to the talk page of the bottom four or so's talk pages). After enough members sign up, I would work on the page. When the first MFD took place, and users wanted the name to be changed, I didn't know exactly how to do that. I do now, though. If users still do want a name change, how about Welcome Cabal. Other suggestions are welcome. The squad's goal is to welcome actively, something which, again, I haven't kept track of. However, I do believe, with a little push, members can welcome actively. I have already given a barnstar to Le Grand Roi Coutrilles (Sorry if I spelled it wrong) for welcoming. Thanks for comments in advance.--LAAFan 16:46, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If a user wants to take a different approach to welcoming users in their own userspace, even if it's just slightly different, and it's not being problematic, then there's no reason to delete. Sometimes this is how we get new ideas for the main project space counterparts. -- Ned Scott 04:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But there is already a main project counterpart. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign Listen 15:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If this Squad could welcome only one person that wouldn't normally be welcomed, then I'd say that merits being kept. If this were projectspace, it would be different. But it's userspace, it's helpful, and it should be kept. Mastrchf (t/c) 05:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete Since when do we need another welcoming committee? And a "tournament"? I mean, welcoming users is fine, but we're building an encyclopedia here. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 11:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shapiros, I can understand your reasons for delete. The page itself hasn't been updated; I'll give you that. The tournament thing I added when I was brand new to Wikipedia. I'm going to go remove that. As for a "copy" of the committee, I guess I can't really help that. What if I start to develop a renovation of the page?--LAAFan 15:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Although I might change to merge...and the goal of welcoming every user is a bit obsessive. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 19:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I made all of those comments when I was brand new. It really does need an update.....--LAAFan 20:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Although, since the focus here is building an encyclopedia, there really doesn't need to be multiple welcoming committees. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 20:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shapiros, this is what Jimbo said "Anything that builds a spirit of friendliness and co-operation and helps people get to know each other as human beings seems to me a good thing"[1] This page is exactly what it does, and I see no problem with that. -- RyRy (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<-- I must ask, why is welcoming every user "a bit obsessive"? I'd really hate for every user that joins Wikipedia to be knowledgeable on how the project works and have someone they could go to with a question.... I realize that sounds rude, but why shouldn't we strive for perfection? Why shouldn't we welcome every user? Mastrchf (t/c) 17:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Ryan, I hate to disagree with you, but esperanza met those exact criterion. There's alreayd a WP:WC. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 21:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So I guess it would be better for every user that this program would've welcomed to go out into the encyclopedia inexperienced, without direction, and with questions. I understand that we come to build an encyclopedia, but there is no way we can build such a momentous project without interaction, discussion, and through both, learning. Welcoming helps inform a new user, it helps he or she learn about the encyclopedia, and it gives he or she someone who is happy to answer a question. For every new user that comes to the project and is welcomed, I am sure that there are ten more that aren't welcomed. I echo my earlier comments, If this Squad could welcome only one person that wouldn't normally be welcomed, then I'd say that merits being kept. Mastrchf (t/c) 00:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mastrchf, not my point. There doesn't need to me multiple programs for welcoming users. There's already a WP:WC. i mean, we don't have duplicate copies of WikiProjects, do we? Shapiros10 contact meMy work 01:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You still haven't stated why it is detrimental to the project to have multiple programs. It's not as if this program is detracting from the other. Mastrchf (t/c) 04:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I never said it was detrimental. I'm just saying that it's not needed. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 20:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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2008-07-06

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The result of the debate was Delete —Reedy 16:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/Box office

Empty maintenance list, intended for red links but consisting of only a few external links. Untouched since December 2006. PC78 (talk) 02:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete —Reedy 16:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mossman railway

User:Seymor1000/Mosman Central railway station and User:Seymor1000/Mosman Line are a series of pages about a railfan's fantasy railway. It would be on a personal website not affiliated with Wikipedia, having it here may confuse the less than all there members of the community. Wongm (talk) 12:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete. Stifle (talk) 15:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:SurvivorFANFIC and subpages

Sub-pages included in MfD:

User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: Guatemala
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: Panama
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: Cook Islands
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: Fiji
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: All-Stars Belize
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: China
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Survivor: Micronesia
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Sims Survivor: The Australian Outback
User:SurvivorFANFIC/Sims Survivor: Africa

Fan fiction of Survivor (U.S. TV series) seasons. Wikipedia is not a web hosting service. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested in using the wiki technology for a collaborative effort on something else, even if it is just a single page, there are many sites that provide wiki hosting (free or for money). You can also install wiki software on your server. See the Wiki Science wikibook for information on doing this. Scratchpad Wiki Labs also allows personal wikis.

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2008-07-04

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The result of the debate was Delete —Reedy 16:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject VideoGames/General

Not used, not edited since 2004 MrKIA11 (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete What is this page? Looks like a talk page but it is in the main WP space. I have no idea what the discussion (such as it is) is even about. Sounds like an essay that got off on a false start and never actually got written. Delete as nonsense. Ham Pastrami (talk) 05:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete —Reedy 16:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject VideoGames/Template

Not used, not edited since creation in 2004 MrKIA11 (talk) 14:08, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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2008-07-03

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The result of the debate was delete. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Israelbeach

Abandoned LTA subpage. This vandal hasn't been active for over a year, and this page hasn't been touched for over a year either. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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2008-07-02

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The result of the debate was delete. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ksvaughan2/Alteratives

Userfied copy of article deleted via AfD; has not been edited at all since it was userfied in February 2008; editor appears inactive. MastCell Talk 20:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Initially challenged PROD on what I thought was technical grounds, but as it turns out, user pages are eligible for PROD under certain limited circumstances. So yeah, my bad... SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete, as a redirect wouldn't solve anything here. Inactive, no visitors, no need to redirect to an active portal. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Marvel

Inactive portal. First nomination (Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Marvel) was too short after the creation, but way over a year later, the portal has seen no more activity at all and is seriously outdated (e.g. the News section). I have first raised the issue at the Comics project (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/Archive 33#Portal:Marvel), where no one seemed interested in retaining and reviving it. People looking for this portal and/or editors active on Marvel Comics should better be directed to the Portal:Comics, which has an active workgroup for Marvel Comics. Fram (talk) 11:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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2008-06-30

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The result of the debate was keep. Marking as historical also. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Discussion Camp

An old proposed project (to 'improve discussion techniques') that never went anywhere; inactive since October 2007. The creator, User:WAS 4.250, has no interest in reviving it, and I see nothing worth keeping for historical reasons. Terraxos (talk) 00:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete per WP:CSD#G6. If the user returns, I can always restore them. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zappaz/scrapbook/Controversy surrounding new religious movements and their critics

Housekeeping. This is in the user space of an editor that has not edited since January 2006 and this page has not been touched since December 2004. Justallofthem (talk) 16:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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2008-06-29

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The result of the debate was delete per WP:CSD#G6, idle duplicated page. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zappaz/sandbox/List of groups refered to as cults by the media

Housekeeping. This is an old copy of an article that is now deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of groups referred to as cults (6th nomination). The user has not edited since January 2006. Per guideline, user space "is not intended to indefinitely archive ... previously deleted content". Justallofthem (talk) 13:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete, redirecting to talk per WP:CHILD. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hatsuyoko

Inappropriate userpage content. Is basically an extended personal essay/social networking profile. Wikipedia is not a myspace, free webhost or a place for long essays about yourself. This is the users only contribution despite being here for a month other than attempting to post it in the mainspace, so I think it's safe to say she's unlikely to become a useful contributor. It is inappropriate to be included in mainspace, so can't be considered an article being developed. Ironholds 13:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was moot, now marked with a sockpuppet tag. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Guitar Hero Games Setlist

Apparently using userspace for an article that, to quote User:Legotech, "would never get past new page patrol". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 04:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

feel free to chat him up, however he just blanked his talk page of my welcome message and the MfD notice. Doesn't appear to be a user that would like help. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 00:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was No consensus Lenticel (talk) 06:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long term abuse/VaughanWatch

Suggesting deletion per LTA. Vandal hasn't been active for a long time now, page last edited Oct. 2007. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. WP:DENY doesn't apply to the VaughanWatch abuse: VaughanWatch's motivations were to influence an election as much as possible, not general abuse of Wikipedia, not attention-seeking. And the inactivity is probably due to the fact the election passed, but other elections will come in the future. Mangojuicetalk 14:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete Lenticel (talk) 06:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Verdict

Old entry for an inactive vandal, hasn't been touched since November '07. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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