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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 21:41, 28 May 2023 (UTC). Currently, there are 141 open requests (. )
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Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Northern Irish female badminton players to Category:Female badminton players from Northern Ireland – C2C: Per Category:People from Northern Ireland. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Northern Irish badminton players to Category:Badminton players from Northern Ireland – C2C: Per Category:People from Northern Ireland. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Northern Irish baseball players to Category:Baseball players from Northern Ireland – C2C: Per Category:People from Northern Ireland. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of Northern Irish football transfers to Category:Lists of Northern Ireland association football transfers – C2C: Per Category:Association football in Northern Ireland. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Herbs and Spices participants to Category:Herbs and Spices task force participants – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Herbs and Spices Taskforce templates to Category:Herbs and Spices task force templates – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Herbs and Spices Taskforce to Category:Herbs and Spices task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Desserts Taskforce templates to Category:Desserts task force templates – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Desserts Taskforce participants to Category:Desserts task force participants – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Desserts Taskforce to Category:Desserts task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cheeses Taskforce members to Category:Cheeses task force members – C2B. Gonnym (talk) 18:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cheeses Taskforce to Category:Cheeses task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Serial Killer Task Force members to Category:Serial Killer task force members – C2B. Gonnym (talk) 18:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2025 Winter World University Games to Category:Winter World University Games – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Norfolk Island to Category:COVID-19 pandemic by dependent territory, Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, Category:2020 in Norfolk Island, Category:2021 in Norfolk Island and Category:2022 in Norfolk Island – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:01, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Roman Catholic Diocese of Las Vegas to Category:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Las Vegas – C2A: elevated as archdiocese Noel baran (talk) 11:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2023 American Athletic Conference baseball season to Category:2023 NCAA Division I baseball season and Category:American Athletic Conference baseball seasons – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 11:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Dukes of Prussia to Category:16th-century dukes of Prussia – C2A per MOS:JOBTITLES – Fayenatic London 10:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:30 Days of Night to Category:30 Days of Night (franchise) – C2D: Per main article 30 Days of Night (franchise). ★Trekker (talk) 06:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2000–01 Biathlon World Cup to Category:Biathlon World Cup, Category:2000 in biathlon and Category:2001 in biathlon – C2F –Aidan721 (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2001–02 Biathlon World Cup to Category:Biathlon World Cup, Category:2001 in biathlon and Category:2002 in biathlon – C2F –Aidan721 (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Works about Nanjing Massacre to Category:Works about the Nanjing Massacre – C2A. 1857a (talk) 22:33, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC to Category:Mohun Bagan SG – C2D Geregen2 (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC matches to Category:Mohun Bagan SG matches
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC seasons to Category:Mohun Bagan SG seasons
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC-related lists to Category:Mohun Bagan SG-related lists
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC managers to Category:Mohun Bagan SG managers
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC players to Category:Mohun Bagan SG players
- REDIRECT Category:ATK Mohun Bagan FC templates to Category:Mohun Bagan SG templates
- Category:Kotohira Shrines to Category:Kotohira shrines – C2B: shrines does not need a capital. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cycling at the 2023 Southeast Asian Games to Category:Cycling at the 2023 SEA Games – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cycling at the 2017 Southeast Asian Games to Category:Cycling at the 2017 SEA Games – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Hockey at the 2017 Southeast Asian Games to Category:Hockey at the 2017 SEA Games – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Finswimming at the Southeast Asian Games to Category:Finswimming at the SEA Games – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cycling at the Southeast Asian Games to Category:Cycling at the SEA Games – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Dukes of Skåne to Category:Dukes of Scania – C2C: Category:Dukes of provinces of Sweden Category:Provinces of Sweden C2D province of Scania Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Bilderberg Group to Category:Bilderberg Meeting – C2A: as per Bilderberg Meeting and official website Gjs238 (talk) 13:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Drafts about Comics to Category:Drafts about comics – C2A: "Comics" should not be capitalized. ★Trekker (talk) 00:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Governors of Gotland to Category:Governors of Gotland County – C2D: List of governors of Gotland County Kaffet i halsen (talk) 21:56, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:KK Crvena zvezda youth players to Category:KK Crvena zvezda (youth) players – C2D per KK Crvena zvezda (youth) – Fayenatic London 21:56, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Athletes by city or town in Canada to Category:Track and field athletes in Canada by city or town – C2C: Category:Canadian track and field athletes Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Banana boats to Category:Banana boat (ship) – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 09:32, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: Totally support matching the main article but, since it's a WP:SETCAT, I think we should keep it plural to Category:Banana boats (ships). Thoughts? - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Olympic alpine skiers of Macedonia to Category:Olympic alpine skiers for Macedonia – C2C this discussion (redirection categories whose target structure changed). I don't know if Britian is really needed? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 21:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Olympic athletes of Canada to Category:Olympic athletes for Canada
- Category:Olympic athletes of Chinese Taipei to Category:Olympic athletes for Chinese Taipei
- Category:Olympic athletes of the Ottoman Empire to Category:Olympic athletes for the Ottoman Empire
- Category:Olympic athletes of the Republic of Macedonia to Category:Olympic athletes for the Republic of Macedonia
- Category:Olympic athletes of Upper Volta to Category:Olympic athletes for Upper Volta
- Category:Olympic athletes of Zaire to Category:Olympic athletes for Zaire
- Category:Olympic basketball players of Zaire to Category:Olympic basketball players for Zaire
- Category:Olympic canoeists of Macedonia to Category:Olympic canoeists for Macedonia
- Category:Olympic cyclists of Zaire to Category:Olympic cyclists for Zaire
- Category:Olympic field hockey players of the Unified Team of Germany to Category:Olympic field hockey players for the Unified Team of Germany
- Category:Olympic figure skaters of Georgia to Category:Olympic figure skaters for Georgia
- Category:Olympic figure skaters of the United Kingdom to Category:Olympic figure skaters for the United Kingdom
- Category:Olympic footballers of South Africa to Category:Olympic footballers for South Africa
- Category:Olympic judoka of Macedonia to Category:Olympic judoka for Macedonia
- Category:Olympic karateka of United States to Category:Olympic karateka for United States
- Category:Olympic rowers of Netherlands to Category:Olympic rowers for Netherlands
- Category:Olympic shooters of Macedonia to Category:Olympic shooters for Macedonia
- Category:Olympic skateboarders of Netherlands to Category:Olympic skateboarders for Netherlands
- Category:Olympic skeleton racers of the Virgin Islands to Category:Olympic skeleton racers for the Virgin Islands
- Category:Olympic swimmers of Macedonia to Category:Olympic swimmers for Macedonia
- Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers of Australia to Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers for Australia
- Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers of Great Britain to Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers for Great Britain
- Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers of New Zealand to Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers for New Zealand
- Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers of South Africa to Category:Olympic synchronized swimmers for South Africa
- Category:Olympic track and field athletes of Great Britain to Category:Olympic track and field athletes for Great Britain
- Category:Olympic track and field athletes of Great Britian to Category:Olympic track and field athletes for Great Britian
- Do we actually need these redirects? If the categories were to be moved now and not in 2015 the redirects were not even created.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:54, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Synchronised swimming, track and field and football may have a future need as there will probably come new entries in 2024 and further on. I think all possible articles for Zaire categories are already there. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I am fine with having categories, but I doubt we need redirects to them. Ymblanter (talk) 17:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- No problem deleting them but I guess that needs full CFD? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- My guess is that they are amenable for speedy deletion as redirects to non-existing pages. @Fayenatic london: what do you think? Ymblanter (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- I support moving most of these category redirects as nominated. They redirect to existing pages which have just been renamed from "of" to "for". These redirects are for local alternative names e.g. old country names, spelling "synchronized"/"synchronised", "track and field athletes"/"athletes". But delete the last as a spelling error ("Britian"); delete Olympic track and field athletes for GB, as "track and field" is only required for territories using American English; delete Netherlands and United States which were created as duplicates missing the word "the". – Fayenatic London 22:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- My guess is that they are amenable for speedy deletion as redirects to non-existing pages. @Fayenatic london: what do you think? Ymblanter (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- No problem deleting them but I guess that needs full CFD? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- I am fine with having categories, but I doubt we need redirects to them. Ymblanter (talk) 17:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Synchronised swimming, track and field and football may have a future need as there will probably come new entries in 2024 and further on. I think all possible articles for Zaire categories are already there. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:10th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:10th-century kings of the Romans – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLE. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:11th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:12th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:12th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:13th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:13th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:14th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:14th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:15th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:15th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:16th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:16th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:17th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:17th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:18th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:18th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:19th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:19th-century kings of the Romans
- Oppose these, King of the Romans was exclusively a title, it had nothing to do with the Romans. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Women's Australian rules footballers to Category:Women's players of Australian rules football – C2C per Category:Players of Australian rules football. S.A. Julio (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Australian rules footballers by state of origin to Category:Players of Australian rules football by state of origin
- Category:Australian rules footballers by league to Category:Players of Australian rules football by league
- Category:Australian footballers at the 1956 Summer Olympics to Category:Players of Australian rules football at the 1956 Summer Olympics
- Category:Australian rules footballers by city or town in Australia to Category:Players of Australian rules football by city or town in Australia
- Category:Lists of women's Australian rules footballers to Category:Lists of women's players of Australian rules football
- Category:Australian rules football players that played in the NFL to Category:Players of Australian rules football that played in the NFL
- Category:Australian rules football players from Cairns to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Cairns
- Category:Fictional Australian rules football players to Category:Fictional players of Australian rules football
- Category:Australian rules footballers from South Australia to Category:Players of Australian rules football from South Australia
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Tasmania to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Tasmania
- Category:Australian rules footballers from New South Wales to Category:Players of Australian rules football from New South Wales
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Western Australia to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Western Australia
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Queensland to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Queensland
- Category:Australian rules footballers from the Australian Capital Territory to Category:Players of Australian rules football from the Australian Capital Territory
- Category:Australian rules footballers from the Northern Territory to Category:Players of Australian rules football from the Northern Territory
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Victoria (state) to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Victoria (state)
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Perth, Western Australia to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Perth, Western Australia
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Geraldton to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Geraldton
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Launceston, Tasmania to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Launceston, Tasmania
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Melbourne to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Melbourne
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Geelong to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Geelong
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Ballarat to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Ballarat
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Bendigo to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Bendigo
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Sydney to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Sydney
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Hobart to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Hobart
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Adelaide to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Adelaide
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Albury to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Albury
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Fremantle to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Fremantle
- Category:Australian rules footballers from Brisbane to Category:Players of Australian rules football from Brisbane
- Category:Australian rules footballers from the Gold Coast, Queensland to Category:Players of Australian rules football from the Gold Coast, Queensland
- Oppose "Players of Australian rules football" is such a clunky way to say footballers. It's not in common use. It's a waste of time and effort. Categories should be concise. The proposed women's cat reads like it's been translated by Google translate. Very unnatural. If anything, the parent cat should be changed back. The-Pope (talk) 12:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Changed back? The title of Category:Players of Australian rules football has remained the same since its creation in 2009. S.A. Julio (talk) 12:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- The parent category was thus renamed at this cfd in 2009, for good reasons. — Oculi (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Emigrants from Canada to Transvaal Colony to Category:Canadian emigrants to Transvaal Colony – C2C within Category:Immigrants to Transvaal Colony – Fayenatic London 09:57, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose' The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation. Also oppose the others listed abovefor the same reason. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:49, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Category:Emigrants from Canada to Transvaal Colony has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 18:10, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Emigrants from Barbados to Trinidad and Tobago to Category:Barbadian emigrants to Trinidad and Tobago – C2C: per Category:Barbadian emigrants. Oculi (talk) 12:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to British Overseas Territories to Category:British emigrants to British Overseas Territories – C2C: per parent Category:British emigrants (and all the subcats use 'British emigrants'). Oculi (talk) 12:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Emigrants from Albania to Lebanon to Category:Albanian emigrants to Lebanon – C2C: per convention in Category:Albanian emigrants. Oculi (talk) 23:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- All of the above are dependent on this full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 18:08, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Tucana (constellation) to Category:Tucana – C2B. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Tucana is ambiguous. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Counter-refutation: Looking through Tucana (disambiguation), I have no reason to believe that any topic other than the constellation is the primary topic, in which case disambiguation is not needed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- I support processing this under WP:IAR. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Armbrust has a fair point. Occasionally we add additional disambiguation in category space compared to article space, hardly ever the reverse happens. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Considering that most other constellation categories with unnecessary disambiguation were renamed unopposed in CfDS, I will take this to full CfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Armbrust has a fair point. Occasionally we add additional disambiguation in category space compared to article space, hardly ever the reverse happens. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- I support processing this under WP:IAR. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Counter-refutation: Looking through Tucana (disambiguation), I have no reason to believe that any topic other than the constellation is the primary topic, in which case disambiguation is not needed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Tucana is ambiguous. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:10th-century BC Kings of Syria to Category:10th-century BC kings of Syria – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLE. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:9th-century BC Kings of Syria to Category:9th-century BC kings of Syria
- Category:8th-century BC Kings of Syria to Category:8th-century BC kings of Syria
- @Hey man im josh: the 8th-, 9th- and 10th- BC categories should also be changed from Syria to Aram-Damascus. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: the 8th-, 9th- and 10th- BC categories should also be changed from Syria to Aram-Damascus. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Assassinated politicians in the Americas to Category:Assassinated Pan-American politicians – WP:C2C Consistency with the other categories in the tree. Thinker78 (talk) 04:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, in Category:People of the Americas. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 07:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think it should be moved to Category:Assassinated politicians of the Americas.★Trekker (talk) 10:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- It should rather be split to Category:Assassinated politicians in North America and Category:Assassinated politicians in South America, there is no specific reason why the two continents should be combined here. We would not do this for Eurasia either. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- That would be fine too. But I just want it to be clear what the category is for, is it for people from or of those continents or is it for any politician assassinated in the continents?★Trekker (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Fair point, as the category only contains subcategories by nationality, "in" is obviously wrong. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Originally I intended it to be for events in the continents. But I later realized there was already categorization by nationalities and I thought it would be pointless to duplicate by geography if very few differences existed anyway. For example, I can only think of Leo Ryan as an American politician assassinated abroad in South America.
- There was a discussion about it in the thread of the request "Category:Assassinated politicians in North America to Category:Politicians assassinated in North America" [1]. Thinker78 (talk) 06:12, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- There are three categories in Category:Assassinated politicians in the Americas and maybe there should be four, including Central Americans. Another difference with Eurasia are the names. North America, South America, Central America. Meaning different parts of the continent America (as it is known in Spanish and other languages except in the United States).
- Therefore, the similitude is more with Asia – South Asia, Europe – Western Europe. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- That would be fine too. But I just want it to be clear what the category is for, is it for people from or of those continents or is it for any politician assassinated in the continents?★Trekker (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- This discussion shows that we better have a full CfD.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Eureka (American TV series) to Category:Eureka (2006 TV series) – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 09:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Main article was only recently moved and without discussion, and thus C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you user:Armbrust for your constant vigilance. I suggest that this should go ahead under C2B instead, as we should follow the article's disambiguation from its current ambiguity, cf. other uses at Eureka#Film_and_television. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support moving, "American TV series" is obviously too ambiguous. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you user:Armbrust for your constant vigilance. I suggest that this should go ahead under C2B instead, as we should follow the article's disambiguation from its current ambiguity, cf. other uses at Eureka#Film_and_television. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Main article was only recently moved and without discussion, and thus C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:European sports federations to Category:Continental sports governing bodies in Europe – C2C: Category:Sports governing bodies in Europe/Category:National sports governing bodies in Europe Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedily adding the word "Continental". This category doesn't has a parent that uses that word. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 16#Category:European sports federations Kaffet i halsen (talk) 15:48, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedily adding the word "Continental". This category doesn't has a parent that uses that word. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Dual internationalists (football) to Category:Dual association football internationalists – C2C per Category:Association football players. S.A. Juliro (talk) 21:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Dual men's international footballers to Category:Dual men's association football internationalists
- Category:Dual internationalists (women's football) to Category:Dual women's association football internationalists
- S.A. Julio, why not Category:Dual internationalists (association football), Category:Dual internationalists (men's association football), Category:Dual internationalists (women's association football) TSventon (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I guess I am not sure why the brackets are needed, there is no article titled Dual internationalists (football) or Dual internationalists (association football). S.A. Julio (talk) 15:30, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I think it is natural to keep "dual internationalist" as a phrase. "Dual men's association football internationalist" sounds unnatural and get no Google search results. According to WP:NCDAB,
Natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation
, but "dual men's association football internationalist" is neither natuiral nor commonly used. TSventon (talk) 09:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)- @TSventon: True, maybe "Men's association football dual internationalists" or "Dual men's international association football players" would be better? Probably worth a full discussion. S.A. Julio (talk) 03:34, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I think it is natural to keep "dual internationalist" as a phrase. "Dual men's association football internationalist" sounds unnatural and get no Google search results. According to WP:NCDAB,
- Comment: "internationalists"? Isn't internationals? HandsomeFella (talk) 18:45, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Categories were moved to full discussion by nominator. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Portuguese Mozambique to Category:British emigrants to Portuguese Mozambique – C2C: per parent Category:British emigrants to Mozambique, grandparent Category:British emigrants and cfd 2023 April 8#Emigrants. Oculi (talk) 14:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support but with correction to the typo [[Category:British emigrants to Portuguese Mozambique]] Wozal (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- The 2 recent cfds on this exact topic have been closed in favour of the 'fooian emigrants to boo' format: 2023 April 12#Category:Liechtenstein emigrants and 2023 April 8#Emigrants. — Oculi (talk) 23:11, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Treasure hunt television series to Category:Television series about treasure hunting – C2C: Per parent category, Category:Works about treasure hunting ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Treasure hunt films to Category:Films about treasure hunting
- Category:Treasure hunt comics to Category:Comics about treasure hunting
- Oppose speedy There is no clear convention for the proposed format. (Also the main article of the second category is List of treasure hunt films.) Armbrust The Homunculus 15:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also Category:Works about treasure hunting was created today by user:ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. — Oculi (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Almost everything in Category:Works by topic is in the exact same "works about X" format. This is not some kind of random invention on my part. And it goes to follow the child categories should be in the same format. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also Category:Works about treasure hunting was created today by user:ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. — Oculi (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no clear convention for the proposed format. (Also the main article of the second category is List of treasure hunt films.) Armbrust The Homunculus 15:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. players to Category:Maccabi Tamra F.C. players – C2D Geregen2 (talk) 12:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose this also. This might be an issue with all Israeli teams. The category name here is correct based on this. Not sure why the article titles are incomplete. Gonnym (talk) 12:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Don't think so for this one. Their own logo as per this just says "Maccabi Tamra". Their socials do not say "Ironi" in it either, just "Maccabi Tamra". The name of the article should be commonly used one, not the formal full legal name (unless some sort of disambiguation is needed, which it is not in this case).
- Thanks. Geregen2 (talk) 12:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Geregen2 (talk) 12:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Don't think so for this one. Their own logo as per this just says "Maccabi Tamra". Their socials do not say "Ironi" in it either, just "Maccabi Tamra". The name of the article should be commonly used one, not the formal full legal name (unless some sort of disambiguation is needed, which it is not in this case).
- Oppose this also. This might be an issue with all Israeli teams. The category name here is correct based on this. Not sure why the article titles are incomplete. Gonnym (talk) 12:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Supporters of the Aryan idea to Category:Aryanists – C2E: Author request Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 21:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Shukuyodo deities to Category:Sukuyodo deities – C2E: Author request Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: fixed the category. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 21:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion (WP:NONDEF). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:14, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: fixed the category. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 21:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Governorates of Ukraine to Category:Governorates of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic - C2D, C2C, C2B per parent Category:Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and Administrative divisions of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. --Vladis13 (talk) 00:13, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- This should be a full discussion. The move was already reverted (by me), and concerns were raised at Special:Permalink/1151418211#Category:Governorates of Ukraine. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:13, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- JJMC89 Please open a discussion according to the instructions in the template on Category:Governorates of Ukraine. I can't discuss in the diff you provided on the user talk page. I don't know where to discuss, here? And delete the Category:Governorates of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic page, as your incomplete reverted has created some chaos. And yes, in the diff you cited, the user wrote absurdity, there is a violation of the WP:SUBCAT - see parent category, he claims that the provinces of the Russian Empire == the provinces of the Ukrainian SSR, from which it follows that he identifies Ukrainian SSR, Russian Empire and the moder Ukraine, which have not governorates. His statement that the Ukrainian SSR is Ukraine, according to the law of modern Ukraine, is a criminally punishable statement and cause of the current war, since by doing so he denies state borders (the Ukrainian SSR did not had Crimea and Western Ukraine). I would advise you to make categories like in uk:Category:Губернії України of the Ukrainian Wikipedia. --Vladis13 (talk) 04:36, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't need to open a discussion, and the template doesn't instruct me to. If you want to discuss it, see WP:CFD#HOWTO. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Opened Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 28#Category:Governorates of Ukraine. --Vladis13 (talk) 03:33, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't need to open a discussion, and the template doesn't instruct me to. If you want to discuss it, see WP:CFD#HOWTO. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- JJMC89 Please open a discussion according to the instructions in the template on Category:Governorates of Ukraine. I can't discuss in the diff you provided on the user talk page. I don't know where to discuss, here? And delete the Category:Governorates of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic page, as your incomplete reverted has created some chaos. And yes, in the diff you cited, the user wrote absurdity, there is a violation of the WP:SUBCAT - see parent category, he claims that the provinces of the Russian Empire == the provinces of the Ukrainian SSR, from which it follows that he identifies Ukrainian SSR, Russian Empire and the moder Ukraine, which have not governorates. His statement that the Ukrainian SSR is Ukraine, according to the law of modern Ukraine, is a criminally punishable statement and cause of the current war, since by doing so he denies state borders (the Ukrainian SSR did not had Crimea and Western Ukraine). I would advise you to make categories like in uk:Category:Губернії України of the Ukrainian Wikipedia. --Vladis13 (talk) 04:36, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- This should be a full discussion. The move was already reverted (by me), and concerns were raised at Special:Permalink/1151418211#Category:Governorates of Ukraine. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:13, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94 to Category:Flanders campaign – C2D: per Flanders campaign. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, that will do. The too narrow dating was my biggest concern. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: The main article Flanders campaign was renamed yesterday to Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition, after Marcocapelle and I reached an agreement on this title at Talk:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition#Name and periodisation (I had already written down several observations and objections in June 2022, but nobody responded to it until now). I agree with WP:C2D as an argument for speedy renaming the cat, but that means the resulting new name will now be Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition. Because this significantly changes and complicates the nature of the discussion, and Marcocapelle and I have already been discussing reorganising the category tree on the talk page (where I already wrote down a lot of proposals), I think it's best to stop this speedy nom and make it a regular CfR to discuss this properly. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fauna of the Amazon to Category:Fauna of the Amazon basin – C2C per parent and sub-cats. I am not sure whether the Flora sibling should follow suit. @Couiros22 and Gonnym: I nominated this one following Biota which was just renamed, but I see you are still discussing the Birds subcat below. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think they always match, because flora categories follow World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. But Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants/World_Geographical_Scheme_for_Recording_Plant_Distributions#Category:Flora_of_South_America does not have an Amazon-based region. Shall we take this hierarchy to a full CFD, from Biota down? – Fayenatic London 13:33, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- the category should be renamed Fauna of the Amazon rainforest... the Amazon basin does not encompass all of the Amazon rainforest... therefore some species might be situated inside the Amazon rainforest but outside the Amazon basin --Couiros22 (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Birds of the Amazon Basin to Category:Birds of Amazonia – more pertinent category ; some eastern parts of the Amazon rainforest (Amazonia) are located outside of the Amazon Basin Couiros22 (talk) 20:43, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- yes, the Amazon rainforest (synonym=Amazonia cf. article). alternatively we could just rename it as "Birds of the Amazon rainforest" --Couiros22 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- In that case the category should use "Amazon rainforest" as that is what the article uses as its title. Gonnym (talk) 21:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like this is not a speedy case. Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- the bare-eyed antbird is located inside the Amazon rainforest but outside the Amazon basin. --Couiros22 (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted at CFD 2023 March 11. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted again at CFD 2023 May 3. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- the bare-eyed antbird is located inside the Amazon rainforest but outside the Amazon basin. --Couiros22 (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like this is not a speedy case. Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- In that case the category should use "Amazon rainforest" as that is what the article uses as its title. Gonnym (talk) 21:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- yes, the Amazon rainforest (synonym=Amazonia cf. article). alternatively we could just rename it as "Birds of the Amazon rainforest" --Couiros22 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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