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Bookku

Topic banned indefinitely from the intersection of Pakistan and Feminism, appealable after six months--RegentsPark (comment) 22:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning Bookku

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: USaamo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 14:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Bookku (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBIPA or whichever applies

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Repeatedly blamed me for victim blaming in discussions despite my clarifications (1, 2)
Told by User:Thinker78 about WP:BLPPUBLIC but still held a vague RfC blaming me for non-cooperation (3, 4)
Editors commented in the RfC about suspects to be WP:PUBLICFIGURE but still not accepting it (5)
Told about difference between WP:BLPPUBLIC and WP:NBIO but still bent on otherwise (6, 7)
Bludgeoning the process users told him to be concise but continues to create walls of texts making difficult for editors to have a say (8, 9)
Calls himself a South Asian gender studies student but his editing mostly centred around pushing POV against one country and sometimes one community (10, 11)
Accepted his POV in the topic area (12)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

N/A

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict (diff, diff)

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I have previously worked with User:Bookku over Feminism related articles and was ready to discuss the additions to 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault and expected him to assume good faith on my behalf but he made it quite a dispute. Since the start of discussion he continuously blamed me for victim blaming even though I clarified multiple times that I do not deny the happening of incident but there are other things that needs a inclusion for balancing the article and neutrality. He was not ready to accept the inclusion based on WP:BLPPUBLIC and making WP:OR and WP:SYNTH based arguments. He was also not ready to accept the other editor view who came on his notice to some project but held a vague RfC (as called by editors there) where most editors opined the suspects to be Public Figures for the purpose. He still did not accep their views and wilfully brings WP:NBIO to be criteria to include someone's name in the article which is criteria for a person to have separate article and was told about it. Bludgeoning the discussion by bringing irrelevant things to the discussion and creating walls of texts for which a couple of editors requested him to be concise but seems like he always does this as evident from his talkpage discussions. Although he calls himself South Asian gender studies student but his editing is mostly centred around pushing POV against a specific country and sometimes a community. He is even warned for shenanigans for an undue addition and singling out a specific country by User:TrangaBellam. He accepted his POV in his editing in the subject area contrary to Wikipedia is Not Advocacy and WP:NOTFORUM for which he was previously told as well. One more thing which is though a couple of years back happening but since we both were directly involved in a redirect discussion where I was called supporter of Pakistani deep state, promoting Armed Forces' narrative, wisher of soft censors by him.

In conclusion his behaviour seems like just lingering on the matter in an attempt to exhaust contributing editors by doing argument for the sake of argument, refusal to accept the other views and hell bent on resisting these changes and inability to understand the situation to follow policies and guidelines. USaamo ^(t@lk) 14:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Robert McClenon thanks for your mediation offer, you have my full cooperation. Appologies that my response got longer in last discussion but before that I tried to be as concise as possible. He kept on making long replies for which I reluctantly have to reply but still he said to me that I'm not co-operating and his concerns remain unaddressed. In last thread I just combined my responses from above in a single post as I was not in a mood to reply again and again. USaamo ^(t@lk) 10:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Deepfriedokra since @User:Johnuniq himself saying that sources does say it, on Wikipedia content needs to be sourced. I believe its inclusion for reasons I explained here esp 2nd and 3rd point. In brief Police found the said audiotape from victim's associate phone as call recording which is quite likely. The same guy later turned to be the main accused as charged by her. Also audiotapes are not denied by any party and are admitted fact in proceedings since victim charged her associate on its basis and accused himself accepted the tapes reiterating it in his statement that victim wanted to extort money and I disagreed with her so she charged me.
Anyway AE is not a place to discuss content disagreements for which I've expressed my full cooperation to RM. But other than this dispute there are POV issues with Booku's editing as well which need some kind of action. For not accepting an RfC outcome I was partially topic banned from here two years back which I accept I was wrong and happened because of my inexperienced approach but I have no agenda of any sort. I would also like to mention observations of an experienced editor User:Fowler&fowler from an AN3 thread who worked alot for NPOV in ARBIPA area for a general reference. (13, 14, 15) USaamo ^(t@lk) 11:30, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aman.kumar.goel I have abided by my topic ban from articles of wars between India-Pakistan and I haven't even appealed it after two years for which I was eligible after 6 months because I don't want to edit in that area.(16) I edited The Kashmir Files once only thinking it to be a film article and had no further intention of editing it but when I was told by User:EdJohnston that the said page also cover my topic ban, I duly abided by it. You bringing that here seems to settle the left over scores against me like always. While you yourself have been the editor mostly up on nationalistic lines as noted by editors (17, 18) and your recent undue addition of similar pattern to 2022 Pakistan floods reverted by me and subsequent edit warring by relatively new accounts to add it reverted by other editors. (19, 20)
@User:Dennis Brown the said talk page has three discussions opened by Bookku and I remained as concise as possible in first two discussions but he kept on making long comments for which I reluctantly have to reply, still he said to me that I'm not co-operating and his concerns remain unaddressed. My response only got longer in last thread where I just combined my responses from above discussions in a single post as I was exhausted after seeing another long discussion by him. USaamo ^(t@lk) 13:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bookku, My body my choice and Mera Jism Meri Marzi was another case of WP:UNDUE from you since MJMM was an Urdu slogan with no history or usage outside Pakistan while Mbmc had a global usage where that was best suited. I explained that on talkpage before removal. And that redirect discussion was not a humorous essay but a serious discussion and there was no joke happening there. USaamo ^(t@lk) 10:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Inline with TarangaBellam's observation about Bookku's drafts; he started Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai which was rejected at AFC and then he started RfC to determine the topic's notability against due process and as in his responses here too he stressed on RfCs to be the only way out(quite ironic of him since he's not accepting the RfC outcome in the ongoing dispute). I was not much opposed to the said draft but he wanted me to do it without discriminating between Pakistan India sources as South Asians only in discussion. In his article My body, my choice too he mentioned India Pakistan just as South Asia while mentioning all other countries with name. Well both Pakistan India comes in South Asia but they have distinct identities which comes first. Wikipedia policies and nationalities can't be simply ignored because he likes it this way.(21) USaamo ^(t@lk) 21:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

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Discussion concerning Bookku

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Statement by Bookku

Requesting goodfaith. Pardon me for minor hiccups, spare for bad faith attacks on my talk page some of which I might not have replied. Over all I have been following WP policies to best of my understanding.
My re to TB. (1)
Previously covered a bio regarding Public spaces. Non–military mass sexual assault (Indian incidence draft pending for very old ref books) caught my editorial attention months before Pakistan incidence (2). Noted other global incidences @ Talk:M.S.A for later expansion.
Few other examples of my editorial neutrality: ( 3, 4, 5)
See time stamps of My body, my choice was started before USaamo's Mera Jism Meri Marzi. Mb,mc is global in nature not targeting Pakistan only. @ MJMM I added Indian feminist issues and USaamo and other Pakistani users removed reserving the article for Pakistan. Can provide many more editorial neutrality examples on request.
Dif cited by USaamo (6) itself is proof I am not personalizing but the case may be otherwise (7), In another cited case ( 8) I was in light-hearted passed comment with smiley at beginning to bring a point home (then didn't know One has to specifically note humor as humor, I request pardon for.) but that too did not intend to name/ target USaamo in any way. (I have other humor related drafts too.)

Assuring you all, I am very much here to build encyclopedia constructively. Pl. let me know any other/ more clarification needed. Thanks Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 04:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra First para in my user page is already clear, I can work in whatever area of cosmos available. While I put my agencies to utilization but I am not sure the description '..seeking to right great wrongs ..' fits me well in spite of POVs, since I don't believe WP is last resort.
I do have a long list of examples of my well sourced relevant and even very neutral content being deleted or declined and I have not made even any RfCs for most of them. This time too if it would not have been serious BLP violation (agreed of being BLP violation at least 4 users by now) I would not have taken to this length. In spite BLP rules would have allowed me to delete directly or create RfC for direct deletion I am going to great length to seek mediation and best possible accommodation.
You are admins, your decisions I would surely respect and accept. The concern is this time itself a user selectively clubbed multiple bad faith attacks and came here asking for admonishment of mine. You admonish me next time some one like them will have more authentic admonishment to add in their list and corner me. WP political realms can do very well without my contributions. How many nonBLP consistent contributors WP has on women's rights front?
Even if some content is believed to be WP:Undue why it can not go through content dispute resolution mechanism at respective talk pages and needs to be personalized and brought to this forum in this fashion is not entirely clear to me.
Your admonishments are not an issue, the users keep finding it easy unquestioned route to personalise issues in stead of preferring talk page resolutions of content disputes, concerns me more.
You all are experienced admins you must have gone through all such discussions earlier too, it is all for you to decide. I will respect and accept whatever you decide. Thanks Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 12:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Deepfriedokra I read through Aman.kumar.goel. For some one like me academically sourced edits like this ( 9) giving all sides can be example of ideal neutrality. But when narrative of every side gets affected, people tend to trade some strange adverse charges. Why all those content disputes can't go through RfCs ? rather than clubbing all strange misrepresentations and corner or oust uncomfortable neutral user.
- Why don't we have a condition every one bringing up charges over here prove neutrality of respective strangely charging users first. I know that inconvenient won't happen here.
- Is not that usual Wiki gaming. I understand admins too have to grow and live through same environment and systems. And I would understand whatever your decision you take. As of now I bow out. Many thanks Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@El C, The whole thing is simple content disputes and 'we don't like it' so 'we will take ARE shortcut' attitude of some users. If you do not agree with me I will take 72 hours break on my own. This is primarily case of a BLP policy violation in plain sight. Other 4 users seem to classify it as BLP policy violation 1a, 1b, 2 (This user says ".. still fails BLP on other grounds .."). If proper BLP protocol would have been followed, I would not have needed to write a single sentence. See time stamp @ Wikipedia talk:Dispute resolution noticeboard I said ".. It is close call. .. I am seeking guidance in writing briefly and systematically the way it happens in DRN ..".

Bookku (talk) 16:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also while I am very much following protocol mentioned WP:DDE guideline the accusing side seem to miserably fail the protocol mentioned in the guideline. Bookku (talk) 12:06, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply with details 2

Statement by Bookku (2)

This is additional subsection for ease of navigation and reading.

^[Humor] In Textbook case things seem going on lines, where mob ready to WP:BLUDGEON even a dead horse alleging WP:BLUDGEON. Group of triggered pupils in the school pressuring their hall monitors to clip the wings of fellow student alleging the student has flaws in completion of assignments (he simply writes what we don't like!) hence that student's behaviour ought to be considered bad and punished for. Every one would not understand such parallel or may not like it they might call names bully more, that is fate of that student. They can also take this opportunity to say that this user even does not understand Wikipedia is not forum or standup comedy stage and trail show must reach to it's decided **logical end. :) End of humor note.
If this ARE is the ultimate forum for content decisions then why not officially acknowledge that. And when big pile of charges is being brought by multiple users against a single one that single one need to get reasonable time to provide response at least for mental satisfaction.

Following is more for my own mental satisfaction and record.

I have already submitted whatever closing admins action would be I shall co operate constructively.
At times whether to respond back or not is quite catch-22. On one hand lectures being handed over to me being asked to be concise, to their long list now even funny charges being added, idk, intends to just mock me or subvert the system. Now usual content deletions of my sourced contributions like at even Non-vegetarian are being cited as great examples of my bad personal record. I am confused Idk whether to laugh or cry.
Here roughly 9 months before TB wrote to me ".. Love in Pakistan and Urdu Feminist Literature are fascinating (and valid) topics - if you need resources, give a ping. I will take up the article on forced conversion. .." But as soon as women's issues are covered at Public spaces their patriarchal structure and power on Wikipedia feels threatened.
Take google.com, books.google.com, scholar.google.com search for "Public spaces" "women" and various countries names including Pakistan, for many countries including Pakistan entire WP articles can be written and substantial part can be criticism, Let global women know why a sections dedicated to women issues in public spaces can not be there in Public spaces article and all women related issues are to be compulsively restricted to special for women articles. Why public spaces article can not be opened. Was there any restriction to begin with Pakistan and later adding others? Some one already covering those sources will naturally cover that. Show me existing article talk page RfC consensus against. Is that affecting male power structures on Wikipedia that I am being mansplained and dislodged. For that they bring me to ARE with repeating fake bad faith attacks of proven long duration sock accounts? (More details on request or visit later User:Bookku/ARE for updates)
One likes or not likes or not, as of this day 1969 Rabindra Sarobar Stadium en masse sexual violence controversy is first known on record non conflict time en masse sexual violence controversy with multiple reliable sources for notability. Idk why any one should be afraid that to be covered.
Examples after examples (17) like this one show my best possible editorial neutrality. With all humility I submit, if any one feels my content is not perfect then should have been discussed on article talk pages without resorting to personalization tactics.

I would request discussion closing admin to let me know if they want any specific content related clarifications from me for the baseless pile of them submitted by USaamo AKG and TB. Any detail logical scrutiny will prove most of that to be just frivolous much of it making mountains out of molehills intending to smear and hound for their own POVs being hurt in some way. As such I shall update my detail submission with detail study at User:Bookku/ARE as time permits me.
Last but not least, in any case, let me wish best luck to ongoing hounding and synchronized symphonies for times to come. I repeat I have already submitted whatever closing admins action would be I shall co operate constructively.

Bookku (talk) 13:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Own sign is updated with fresh to avoid bloating

Reply with details 3

Statement by Bookku (3)

The latest reply of T.B. 18 shows continuation of unnecessary diatribe proves their WP:IDONTLIKETHEM strategy, to respond or not is quite catch 22 to me. If I don't respond they shall continue take ARE forum and Admin confidence for granted, continue bypassing regular content dispute mechanism by making blatant misrepresentations here, not only for me but multitude of other users in times to come. If I respond admins will need to enter in detail content analysis and end up saying detail content analysis is not my job at this forum. This way TB and company seems to be manipulating and misusing ARE in plain sight.
Any ways topic is raised I address as brief as possible. If you do not want to take google search yourself, Ask @ WP:Reference desk/Humanities if they can find any other notable 'non conflict time en masse sexual violence controversy' before the Calcutta controversy. The day you find one, ignore my words and update the article Mass sexual assault for the same, I will be first to thank any one for any such efforts. If not then one ought to examine Calcutta controversy thoroughly and not just by selective reading. An autobiography or authorized biographies written by any one how those can be last word in themselves. How do you ignore what other reliable sources are saying just like that. The controversy had been covered by multiple reputable Indian print media and analysts. The quote TB is giving weight to, itself says, ".. and catcalls soon turned to more physical expressions and .. . Women too were allegedly molested.". Jyoti Basu's biography does not ignore controversy but includes it and you want to censor it?

Words 'alleged' and 'controversy' means this really happened as claimed or not we don't know. We Wikipedians can not sit on judgement, if reliable media and sources are covering it it has to be on Wikipedia. You are not supposed to sensor. Would you not consider what women parliamentarians said ?
".. On 14th April 1969 members of Lok Sabha debated various incidences and situation in West Bengal. In respect to Rabindra Sarobar stadium incidence Congress leaders namely Sucheta Kripalani, Sharda Mukherji and A. K. Sen, former Law Minister, criticized unconstrained hooliganism at the Rabindra Sarobar stadium in which many women were molested and subjected to every forms of humiliation. .."
".. The issue came again in Lok Sabha on 10 th December 1970 Ila Pal Chaudhari asked who was author of the Rabindra Sarovar incident? Jyotirmoy Basu said a High court judge has given lie to that. Ila Pal Choudhury responded back saying it is it is a heart-rending; women came to her crying; they showed their clothes which had been torn. Pal Chaudhari says, in reality, commission of inquiry headed by the High Court judge turned out to be a farce since it was not allowed to function freely, because witnesses and the lawyers including including Pal Chaudhari's own counsel were intimidated with grave threats as none will be left alive in their family if any one gives evidence. .." ~ Ila Pal Choudhury * Lok Sabha is India's parliament and person with similar name 'Jyotirmoy Basu' is parliamentarian of Jyoti Basu's party. You don't know Jyoti Basu was not chief minister but just home minister then. His then Chief Minister Atulya Ghosh himself publicly protested against own ministers and later resigned.
At least one contemporary leftist Calcutta newspaper too criticized incidence. Another leftist investigative journalist from another Indian state traveled to Calcutta plays down with words rapes not likely to have happened but agrees incidence of molestation likely to have taken place. Then other news papers including Indian Express with then reputable editor Frank Moraes, Reputable Bengali Journalist Barun Sengupta and at least one research paper of North Bengal university discusses the controversy. You are free to deny what you did not see yourself, how you can deny notability of controversy widely covered in contemporary media and books?

Do you want all those paragraphs and references at this forum itself or you will sincerely address the topic looking for old references including those you don't like and discussing at appropriate talk pages first.

It is whose mistake I had to type wall of text here itself. Will you blame me for providing logical credible presentation too?

I am not used to personalizing content disagreements in this way, though I do have more proofs against such questionable maneuvers. "I repeat, manipulation and misuse of this forum to oust unwanted content and contributors is quite frustrating. Problem is not me getting unfairly punished likelihood of other genuine users too may keep suffering concerns me much more." (Please read again 10000 times.)

Bookku (talk) 06:59, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by TB

Will make a statement in support of a logged warning. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Booku is essentially trying to right great wrongs - that is what I perceived of his rambling reply to RegentsPark's AC/DS alert, prodded by me. Such a political stance is not condemnable —much less, blockable— in itself and is the raison d'être of acclaimed Wiki-projects like Women In Red etc.

However, as the mindboggling edits on Public Space (diff-ed by Johnuniq), Drowning (link), and Tourism in Pakistan (link) show, Booku either does not understand our core content policies concerning DUEness of content or chooses to flout them intentionally. Besides, there are inane article creations like Superstitions in Sikh societies (check history) filled with dubious sources and dubious content derived from illogical synthesis. To compound things, their walls of text are mostly irrelevant to the issue at hand, makes for painful reading, and only serves to digress.

All in all, I think a good case is made for an indefinite TBan, at least from all topics connected to Pakistan, and women. Alongside a logged warning that any further shenanigan will extend the Topic Ban to include India. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:56, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rosguill, thanks for the query. I meant the latter option (union); not certain that my choice of punctuation was appropriate. The intersection won't work - see RegentsPark's evidence of strange drafts lying in his user-space.

I express my firm disagreement to Deepfriedokra's and Dennis Brown's idea of a time-limited TBan. This is not some garden-variety case of edit-warring to necessitate a cooling-off penalty! As RegentsPark — one of the few administrators who patrols S. Asian topics — notes, there is a borderline CIR issue at play and it is irrational to expect the problems to go away in a span of few months! Booku has been here for years and he has been made aware of these issue by multiple editors (see evidence by AKG). My proposed scope of topic ban is quite narrow and if Booku can edit competently in other areas, I won't oppose an appeal as and when it is filed. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:54, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Came across Booku's edits at Non-vegetarian and yet again, a fundamental disregard for NPOV, DUE etc. Much of those additions have been removed by others. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will add another (the last; please bear with me) evidence and expand in some detail, which exemplifies everything that is problematic with Booku's editing. Over the course of a few many edits, Booku added the following paragraph in wikivoice to Rabindra Sarobar Stadium:

Analysis

In the first quarter of 1968 at the Rabindra Sarobar Stadium, a scheduled musical night of large gathering, called 'Ashok Kumar Nite', failed to take place due to faulty amplifiers; mob went unruly, women attending the gathering were molested and sexually abused en masse. [...]

Now, what do the (three) cited sources say?

The first source is the (unofficial) mouthpiece of the political party, which governed the state during the incident. I won't rely on it for anything and even then, it contains a single (indirect) reference:

There is still an enquiry in progress on certain reported incidents in Rabindra Sarobar stadium in July when there was to be held what was called Ashok Kumar "nite", in aid of the reputed Bombay actor. Brassieres were alleged to be all over the place, as the whole show broke up in chaos.

The second source is a contemporary speech by Hem Barua, a legislator from an opposition party, belonging to another state (Assam). He taunts the Government of West Bengal to launch an enquiry on the incident, albeit to deflect from a discussion that centered on another issue (firing on workers who striked):

If you are so enthusiastic about holding inquiries [on the firing], why don't you hold an inquiry into the incident that happened in Rabindra Sarobar Stadium where women were made naked, women had to return home in a state of nakedness? Then what happened, Sir? After this discovery, a large quantity of torn sarees and torn brassiers were found there on the spot. The incident at the Rabindra Sarobar Stadium was a ghastly incident and I want to say that, instead of holding a parallel inquiry into the Cossipore firing incident, the State Government, if it is so enthusiastic about holding an inquiry, can hold an inquiry into the incident at the Rabindra Sarobar Stadium where women were humiliated and insulted. Even today I hear - this is my report; I do not know how far this is correct - that 30 women are missing because of this incident. Whatever that my be, that was a ghastly scene or a ghastly spectacle and I say that an inquiry should be held into it.

It shall be obvious to not rely on partisan political tirades, though they might be true.

Now comes the relatively-decent third source - a biography (albeit, official) of the-then Deputy Chief Minister by an academic:

The first major problem he had to deal with occurred in April 1969 and threatened to tarnish the reputation of his ministry. A musical soirée, Ashok Kumar Night, at Rabindra Sarobar stadium tumed ugly. The immediate cause of the audience's restiveness was faulty amplifiers. Boos and catcalls soon turned to more physical expressions and an angry audience started to throw chairs at the stage. Women too were allegedly molested.
The police, who were attacked with grenades, crackers and other missiles, were compelled to open fire and fifty people were injured. The media played up the incident and reported several deaths, claiming that corpses had been fished out of the adjoining lake. Maverick politician Raj Narain, ever willing to fish in troubled waters, issued an official statement saying that the police found two truckloads of women's undergarments. [compare with Hem Barua's speech.]
At the time, Basu was in New Delhi where a deputation of women belonging to the Jana Sangh came to meet him to protest against the incident. In reality, the audience had turned unruly and had completely ignored the police orders to stay calm. The police action was the only way to restore order. The United Front government ordered a judicial enquiry into the incident. By now the Congress Party, aided by the Centre, as well as some members of the ruling front itself, had begun efforts to dislodge the United Front government. Accusations of the misuse of government machinery were voiced and the United Front was accused of being dictatorial and non-cooperative. The Centre fanned the flames.

Do you see anything of this in the original paragraph, added by Booku despite the citation? I leave it to you to decide whether Booku is plainly incompetent or .... TrangaBellam (talk) 15:20, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

is first known on record non conflict time en masse sexual violence controversy

Somebody ban this editor from anything that has to with women, please. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:34, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RegentsPark, Deepfriedokra, Johnuniq, and Dennis Brown:: This has been stale for over a week. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Robert McClenon

I became aware of the dispute over 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault and of Bookku on 11 September, when Bookku posted to the DRN talk page asking for mediation; see Wikipedia_talk:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Mediation_help_request_@_article_talk_page. The posts of both Bookku and USaamo are too long, didn't read in detail. Bookku was saying that they would be requesting assistance at DRN and at BLPN. I advised Bookku against forum shopping and said to file in one place. Bookku replied and said they would also need help from other pages. It appears that Bookku is running around in a panic and not helping things. Both Bookku and USaamo need to be civil and concise. I haven't researched the details of the article dispute. If there is a content dispute, I am willing to try to mediate, but will impose word limits and other restrictions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

This may be a restatement of the obvious, but if a topic ban is imposed, I will not be mediating a dispute over an area where the subject is not permitted to edit. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Aman.kumar.goel

@Deepfriedokra and Johnuniq USaamo remains topic banned from conflicts related to India and Pakistan,[1] and has violated that topic ban as recently as May 2022.[2] USaamo treated allegations as facts on this diff and wrote it in wikivoice. That was a BLP violation. On talk page, USaamo tells Bookku to "be concise in discussions as your comments are bludgeoning the process by creating walls of text and are a cause of exhaustion for editors"[3] but USaamo himself wrote walls of texts.[4][5]

Topic ban of USaamo should be extended to cover whole ARBIPA.

Bookku is not understanding about the nature of their POV pushing. He has been already warned over WP:UNDUE, NotAForum, bludgeoning in the recent months. However, the activity of Bookku on Public Space,[6] and 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault[7][8] shows he has ignored these warnings and above message confirms great chances of similar disruption.

Bookku should be topic banned as well. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 12:06, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Replies from both editors, Bookku and USaamo, to my above comment reinforces my view that both of them need a topic ban to cover whole WP:ARBIPA. They simply don't see what is wrong with their own editing. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 22:43, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Bookku

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Awaiting statement by TG. Noted Robert's statement. Hopefully, this can be resolved without AE action.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Willing to go with a logged warning per TG, and in hopes of dispute resolution with Robert. Unless someone has a better idea. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bookku I'm afraid it is glaringly obvious you've brought a personal point of view and possibly an 0ff-Wiki agenda into the encyclopedia. Your latest post makes me feel that while you are capable of leaving that agenda out of your editing, you have at times chosen to include it. I'm willing to "admonish only" if it is clear you will cease and desist from the POV pushing moving forward. USaamo, it looks like your edits have been unfortunate as well. I echo what Johnuniq has said below. More concise and clear information is always useful. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@TrangaBellam: I thought you would be arguing for a warning. Now I must reëvaluate. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Read it all, and I support Dennis Brown's short-duration (about 1 month) TBAN proposal. The intersection of Pakistan and women/feminism seems a good starting point. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:24, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@TrangaBellam: Point taken. Will defer to my colleagues on indef vs time limited. The time limited seems a happy middle ground between a warning and an indef. @Bookku: If we go with short duration TBAN, please see it as a boon and an opportunity. If we must address this matter again, the result might be more than a indefinite duration TBAN, considering issues TG has raised. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I will ask my colleague El C to close this. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bookku added a section on Pakistan at Public space (diff). That was totally WP:UNDUE in that article and indicative of someone seeking to right great wrongs. However, USaamo's edit at 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault (diff) with claims of "alleged audiotapes" (with a handy ^dubious tag!) in the lead is worse (yes, the sources said that but don't add "dubious" material to the lead merely to repeat gossip—how likely is it that someone has an audio recording of a conversation showing criminal intent on their phone?). I would like to see if there is further commentary that might enlighten us regarding whether something stronger than a logged warning is needed. I agree that other editors need relief from walls of text. Johnuniq (talk) 03:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Couple of points: Aman.kumar.goel, does raise some interesting questions, that this may be the pot calling the kettle black, but more importantly, I want to point out that writing one or two TLDR comments is not the same thing as WP:BLUDGEONing (itself a subset of WP:DE), as bludgeoning is a pattern of doing so, usually in the same thread or topic. From what I see, this looks like someone trying to Right Great Wrongs, and while a logged warning is ok, I guess, I get the feeling we will be back here soon enough. This is where I differ from my compatriots, and think timed tbans can be effective, as a month off a subject but with the promise of being able to return may provide incentive. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to formally weigh in on this case based on past interactions with editors party to it, but I do have a clarifying question: TrangaBellam, is your intended suggestion for a TBAN of the topical intersection of Pakistan and women, or of separate TBANs for topics pertaining to Pakistan and topics pertaining to women? _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I support some sort of topic ban. TrangaBellam brought Bookku to my attention and a look at their contributions shows a focus, not necessarily misplaced, on womens rights issues in India and Pakistan. However, the steamroller approach demonstrated in Public space, Talk:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault, Draft:Hermeneutics of feminism in Sikhism, other declined drafts, and the rambling response to my templated notice are problematic and borderline WP:CIR. Perhaps a topic ban on topics related to women? A timed one like Dennis Brown is suggesting? That might give them some space to explore other topics, get comfortable with incremental editing, and then return to the gender area which appears to be of significant interest to them?--RegentsPark (comment) 23:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. On responding to an ECP edit request, I came cross this hard-to-figure-out discussion. I'm beginning to think that we may have a CIR issue.--RegentsPark (comment) 17:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DFO asked me to close this, but I probably owe closure to WP:AE#Jargo Nautilus before any other report on this board. But I'll make 2 notes, a general one and one specific to this complaint.

First, the general one: my view on timed TBANs is that rarely, if ever, they're useful. Could this be that one rare exception? I suppose it's possible, but there would have to be a good reason.

My 2nd note that's specific to this complaint concerns its length. Which is to say: disregard for this board's 500-word limit rule. As it stands, USaamo and TrangaBellam each exceed it by more than double, while Bookku by over 4 times. So I don't know what to do about that at this point, as it's a bit late in the day. Still, if parties and reviewers really want fresh eyes on this, then I dunno, maybe work to collapse...? Good luck! El_C 14:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to close this with the narrowest of sanctions (Pakistan and feminism) appealable in six months. Will leave this open for a bit in case there are other views. --RegentsPark (comment) 15:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

USaamo

This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning USaamo

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Aman.kumar.goel (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 03:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: USaamo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBIPA

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it: "Topic ban from wars between India and Pakistan".[9]

30 September: Violates the topic ban by removing content about "sub-nationalities of Pakistan, with Bengalis seceding from Pakistan after the Bangladesh Liberation War in 1971", the same page (Bangladesh Liberation War) about which he was warned back in 2020 for topic ban violation.[10]
6 October: Same as above.

Apart from 2 of these diffs, he has also violated his topic ban on August 2020,[11] and also on May 2022.[12] Both times he was clarified that the topic ban is broadly construed.

I hadn't reported either violation, only asked him to back off, but both times he was not understanding how he is violating the topic ban.

When he violated it last week, I reported at User talk:EdJohnston#Continued topic ban violation by USaamo, where he again failed to accept the topic ban violation. WP:IDHT again.

Few weeks ago, I already provided my comment just above at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Statement_by_Aman.kumar.goel that why USaamo needs a broader topic ban himself, given his long-term inability to edit in this area. These recent topic ban violations just prove it further. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 03:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Topic ban from "Topic ban from wars between India and Pakistan" in July 2020.[13]

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts): See his comments just above at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Bookku

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

@RegentsPark: A topic ban violation is a topic ban violation. Why a warning? This is USaamo's 4th topic ban violation since he has been topic banned. He deliberately violated the topic ban on 6th October even after being told about it. You can take a look at his response here. He is still not accepting his topic ban violation and assuming bad faith with his WP:BATTLEy response. I still recommend extending topic ban or a block for violation at minimum. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 17:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Swarm, EdJohnston, and RegentsPark: After "highly" regretting the edit wars here, USaamo has initiated a meaningless edit war on Talk:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault [14][15] to reduce !vote of another editor in the RfC. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 13:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vice regent: With this falsification of evidence, you are complying with a WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior for which you were already warned by WP:ARBCOM during Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian politics#Vice regent warned.

Contrary to your false claims, this report was filed not after "getting into content disputes" but a number of topic ban violations by USaamo because he is refusing to understand the definition of his topic ban.

The content was added by a sock months ago. Not to mention the sources are weak and even cite unreliable ones. I made many attempts to describe USaamo a few times on his talk page but he was ignoring it.[16] To claim that "Aman.kumar.goel's edits violated policy" and "Usaamo modified the article text to match the sources", is absurd because it was already made clear to USaamo that Pakistan is not a regional power and it has been already extensively discussed but he ignored all inputs and continued to edit war, just like he did on 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault and is now edit warring at Talk:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault.

This edit is not a revert, neither this edit is any BLP violation or undue.

If you seriously thought that these diffs are going to divert from USaamo's behavior then your behavior is even more concerning. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 02:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: [17]

Discussion concerning USaamo

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Statement by USaamo

A useless report and yet another attempt to drag me to AE to frustrate me out. I suggest AE should have a preliminary scrutiny for reports to be formally accepted for proceedings here. It will not only save their time but will also protect users from being dragged into baseless and frivolous reports.
AKG already filed a complaint against me with the enforcing admin EdJohnston who viewed in there that I assume this is a political issue and not military issue. [18] It should have been over for him after this clarification but he still chooses to edit war with me and went on to revert me and that too with a misleading summary.[19] I didn't want edit war so I haven't reverted him back rather alerted admin [20] and waited for a couple of days for his response and since no further response came so I assumed his previous reply to be his view and went ahead with reverting AKG which he at once reverted back and started edit warring. [21] The content I removed was totally undue POV pushing based on original research. As to whether topic ban applies to it or not, I sought clarification from admin which he actually did and I very much intend to abide by my topic ban. For previous allegations of violation, I've already replied in an above report to AKG where he showed up and my answer is still the same to that extent. [22]
His another undue addition of similar pattern to 2022 Pakistan floods was also reverted by me and subsequent edit warring by him and other relatively new accounts to add it back was also reverted by other editors. [23] [24]
I requested a warning for these shenanigans by AKG and behaviour suggesting Wikihounding me and up with a battleground mentality but now it seems like he's so desperate to get me topic banned from ARBIPA and has dragged me uselessly to here, so I ask for proper action against him for this behaviour which doesn't belong here. USaamo ^(t@lk) 17:51, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update (Please allow it if it gets past 500 words)
Swarm, first of all edit war is highly regretted. Although there was no 3RR violation but it shouldn't have happened anyway from my side. I straightforwardly accepted it in my unblock request as well if it was a necessary administrative action, what else do you think I would have done. Rest it happened from both sides if you see the edit histories of those articles [25] and as Seraphimblade said in above report that it takes two to make an edit war. Aman.kumar.goel is still edit warring on Pakistan article [26] to remove the sourced content that has been there for years with misleading summaries without any effort to build consensus which has been totally disregarded in this report. I reverted him because there has already been a consensus when dispute arised in 2016. Now if he wants to remove it, onus is on him to build a new consensus on article talk but instead he kept on reverting me and other users and editwarred. In one of his summary he linked a 2018 discussion from another article as overriding consensus but that actually ended with no result and went to Dispute Resolution Noticeboard and there too, editors arrived at no new consensus so how is it due to use that discussion to remove sourced content.
Also it's wrong to say there was no effort to build consensus from my side. I was very much on Talk:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault trying to explain my edits and previously too I had 14,000 words long discussions including an RfC for these edits which I mistakenly called formal consensus instead of informal consensus. But it's clearly mistaken to say that I'm trying to present the incident as ploy in Wikivoice while I have said this in talkpage discussions repeatedly that incident did happen and was unfortunate but it's the later developments after coming of audioleaks where both were discussing to use it as a ploy to extort money and it's from here that it took a turn when according to girl the one who was her saviour in the incident was charged by girl herself for blackmailing and the guy also blamed her for same. It's all pretty much sourced and I explained it all in length in previous discussions at talk but that's an edit dispute either require DRN or mediation as offered by User:Robert McClenon in a report above which I welcomed.
EdJohnston there has been no balatant or intentional topic ban violations from my side and I very much intend to abide by my topic ban and not appealing it for almost two and a half years while I was eligible after 6 months shows my resolve to stay away from topic. As to the reported violation on Two-nation theory, I did not revert after I was reverted for second time and in my responses on your talkpage while I explained my side, I kept on saying I'm seeking further clarification and same I said in earlier response in this report as well. Had there been a more explicit response by you earlier, it won't have to come here as I already ceased my editing from article even before this report.
Vanamonde93 while I did assume from EdJohnston's reply but before and after that I still sought clarification if you see my responses at his talkpage and here in this report. I earlier believed that topic of wars between India-Pakistan only include the direct wars(which is quite obvious from wording as the dispute which brought these sanctions was about 1965 war) and really didn't know that it does include all military conflicts between India-Pakistan until it was further elaborated by EdJohnston after Kashmir Files comment. As to Two Nation Theory while there is a mention of war but context was political as RegentsPark said, Hut 8.5 explained and EdJohnston assumed it was political issue. My edits on Kashmir Files and Two Nation Theory were not meant to be disruptive nor do meant intentional or balatant violation so requesting good faith. I believe it's pretty much excessive to get me sanctioned from ARBIPA or from all the pages that give any mention of war when I'm up on abiding the already enforced topic ban, maybe it's better to make its wording more elaborative. USaamo ^(t@lk) 19:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I really intended no edit war from start but somehow I was dragged into it as some editors with no prior editing history at 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault (but significant interaction history with OP[27]) showed up and reverted me one after one but I shouldn't have involved in edit-warring from my side which I highly regret, perhaps I should have been more patient in the process. As to the new edit-warring allegations brought up by Aman.kumar.goel on behalf of one of those editors, I only meant to improve the RfC discussion at talkpage as I filed for RfC close after editors suggested for convenience of the closer and gathered relevant responses as the discussions have been quite long and messy over there per WP:TPG. As to the moving one of comment below I wasn't sure that RfC can be restarted after template was removed month prior and the editor who started it also viewed about summing it up month ago. I even asked about it from other editor whose comment was being moved. USaamo ^(t@lk) 17:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston:, @Swarm:, @RegentsPark:, @Hut 8.5: I showed my resolve to abide by topic ban and regretted edit-warring from my side but still if it's necessary to sanction me and that will make Wikipedia better, fair enough. But there's an important note at the top of this AE which states:

If you make an enforcement request or comment on a request, your own conduct may be examined as well, and you may be sanctioned for it.

I don't understand even after highlighting the problematic behaviour of the OP from edit-warring to POV pushing, see VR's statement and report below for further illustration, there's not a single word from Admins, not even mere warning against him. Best of luck for AE's neutrality! USaamo ^(t@lk) 09:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Vanamonde

I recommend not expanding this to "pages that mention an India-Pakistan war"; that's a recipe for wikilawyering, and giving opponents a chance to play Gotcha. Is there a reason to prevent Usaamo from editing Henry Kissinger? If Usaamo is skirting the edge of the ban, I recommend broadening to an Indo-Pakistani conflict TBAN, or enforcing the ban with escalating blocks. If there's confusion about the edges of a TBAN, Usaamo ought to be aware that asking is better than assuming the TBAN doesn't apply. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

KoA, your statement is an egregious misreading of what I've written, as I have nowhere argued that the ban as it exists is unclear, only that the proposed revised scope is. Please re-read what I've written. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by KoA

Vanamonde, I was curious to dig a little after seeing your comments, and your thoughts would directly contradict the topic ban. Here was EdJohnston's close After a discussion at the user's talk page I am proceeding with an indefinite topic ban of USaamo from all wars between India and Pakistan. This ban includes any page anywhere in Wikipedia including talk pages and noticeboards.[28]

That's not to comment on the merits of this request at all, but I am wary of DS sanctions being undermined by those claiming the DS are being weaponized, playing gotcha, etc. when the broadly construed boundaries of those sanctions were already laid out. This topic ban was pretty clear as day, and broadly construed sanctions like that are done for a reason. If someone is pushing the boundaries, that is on the topic banned person regardless of if they are being WP:HOUNDed or not. KoA (talk) 18:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Robert McClenon

I was quoted above (correctly) as having offered to mediate a dispute. I will only mediate any dispute between editors who are free to edit in the area in question. I will instruct the editors not to edit the article in question, but the editors must be in good standing to edit. The editor to whom I made that offer has been topic-banned, so that that offer is moot. I am again willing to try to mediate another dispute, but only if there are no topic-bans. So I was probably pinged above merely as a courtesy note. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Vice_regent

IMO, admins should not levy any sanctions until the behavior of all users in this dispute has been examined. There is a pattern of behavior of Aman.kumar.goel getting into content disputes and then using this board to have their opponents sanctioned. In fact, Black Kite observed this pattern earlier: "I note that the person who is edit-warring with Bringtar is the filer [Aman.kumar.goel], and I also note that the filer has brought multiple previous AE cases to try to remove their ideological opponents from the subject area". Same thing happened here. Swarm notes below Usaamo edit-warred at Pakistan; so did Aman.kumar.goel ([29][30][31]), and neither of the users made a single comment on the article's talk page while continuing to revert the other. And, at first look, Aman.kumar.goel's edits violated policy because the multiple citations([32][33]) immediately after the changed text (assuming they have been quoted correctly) actually call Pakistan a "regional power". I have no opinion on whether Pakistan is a regional power, but it seems Usaamo modified the article text to match the sources cited, while Aman Kumar Goel did the opposite.VR _talk 20:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Consider also the behavior of CapnJackSp; it was their report of edit warring after which Swarm blocked Usaamo. In that report CapnJackSp pointed out that Usaamo reverted 4 times between 15:22 12 Oct and 11:26, 14 Oct (45 hours). Yet CapnJackSp themselves reverted 3 times[34][35][36] between 8:24 12 Oct and 7:37 14 Oct (47 hours). More recently, they added text to the lead[37] that is not just undue but also a possible BLP vio.VR _talk 23:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EdJohnston can you clarify if the topic ban would ban Usaamo from editing all articles related to Pakistan, or only those at the intersection of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan? I ask because I was going through their contributions and find they've created good uncontroversial Pakistan-related content, such as Dosso case, Mera Jism Meri Marzi, Mela Loot Liya etc. Is it possible to carve something that would allow them to continue to be productive on non-controversial articles relating to Pakistan? VR _talk 05:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
An example would be to restrict them to 1RR or 0RR in the ARBIPA area (since a recurring issue is edit-warring).VR _talk 01:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Oriental Aristocrat

AKG's own conduct is questionable and they seem to be a serial disruptor. Let's take for example this revert they made. They call other's edit as disruptive editing without assuming good faith and make a revert that removes large chunks of long-standing text without giving any reason. I see that a WP:BOOMERANG is in offing as they clearly show a behavior of someone who's WP:NOTHERE. Oriental Aristocrat (talk) 00:18, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Fowler&fowler

I don't know anything about U Saamo, but I have just edited the lead of Two-nation theory and disabused it of its exceptionally deliberate and deep-rooted pro-India-POV, and by that I mean a pro-India slant that is nowhere to be found in the scholarly consensus. It was so deliberate and so pervasive that I was left aghast. Whatever U Saamo's antecedents maybe, removing POV from a toxic Wikipedia article should not be considered a violation of a topic ban. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning USaamo

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@Aman.kumar.goel: I haven't looked at the earlier diffs (probably stale) but the two diffs you've provided seem like a stretch re the topic ban. Yes, there is a reference to a war but the context is not war related. Regardless, USaamo, you need to be careful because "broadly construed" is a very wide net and is subjective in interpretation. I suggest closing this with a warning to be more careful. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
After looking at the recent edit war at Pakistan I think some sort of sanction is necessary (though neither USaamo nor AKG bothered to take their case to the talk page, from what Vanamonde says above, AKG read the consensus correctly). While an all topics from ARBIPA may be excessive, I'll support it with an "appealable in six months" slapped on. --RegentsPark (comment) 15:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Bangladesh Liberation War is in scope for the topic ban, although the conflict was mainly between Pakistan and what's now Bangladesh the war saw extensive Indian intervention against Pakistan in the closing stages, and judging from our article the Indians basically won the war by overwhelming the Pakistani forces in Bangladesh. The edits in question removed content which mentioned the war in passing and doesn't deal with any aspect of the Indian intervention. Also one of them took place after this edit from the admin who imposed the sanction. I suspect EdJohnston might have missed the fact that the edits related to the Bangladesh Liberation War but USaamo might not have realised that. I suggest a warning to stay away from that topic. Hut 8.5 18:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing that USaamo's edits have been causing concern since at least 2020 I am not optimistic that a reminder or warning will be sufficient. My impression is that USaamo is willing to follow very precise rules. So I would modify my previous topic ban from wars between India and Pakistan by adding a ban from all articles that mention any wars between India and Pakistan. This would exclude him from editing the Two-nation theory. EdJohnston (talk) 16:41, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the light of User:Swarm's observation below about USaamo's behavior at 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault, I propose that User:USaamo be banned from all topics covered by WP:ARBIPA. As Swarm observes, "There is both history and a clear pattern of current disruption in AE topic areas". USaamo's responses to this AE complaint do not suggest he is mellowing out or becoming more interested in achieving consensus with others. EdJohnston (talk) 01:30, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's necessary, EdJohnston. There is already a standard explained at WP:TBAN that explains how TBANS are apply in situations where an article is not inherently about the subject but covers or mentions the subject in a lesser way. However that is not even the case here, so I'm not sure why we're so hung up on it. The violation is unambiguous; the editor is directly removing a mention of a war fought between India and Pakistan from the article. It is not a case of them simply editing an article that happens to mention such a war. I think most of the time maybe we would factor in that this is a minor violation on a tangentially-related article and cut someone a break, but I reviewed this user's conduct at 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault earlier today in response to an AN3 report and I got the impression that they are completely out of control. They were basically trying to forcibly reframe the article to state, as fact, in Wikipedia's voice, that the attack was staged by the victim. They edit warred over this in spite of a unanimous and specifically articulated local consensus objecting to the change based on verifiability, synth and RS grounds. They outright falsely claimed that they were enforcing a formal consensus and that they were not to be reverted without consensus, and continued to do so even after a warning. They were also edit warring over at Pakistan quite disruptively as well. I blocked them for disruptive editing before even seeing this report. There is both history and a clear pattern of current disruption in AE topic areas. This should be actioned. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 21:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I’d be fine with expanding the TBAN as proposed, given the unapologetic unblock request I don’t think this user is moving in the right direction. I think this is a textbook case of why we have these sanctions in place to begin with. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 14:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since I don't find User:USaamo's response above to be convincing, I'm planning to go ahead within 24 hours and widen their topic ban to all of WP:ARBIPA. If admins disagree please let me know. The topic ban would be indefinite but could be appealed in six months. EdJohnston (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dallavid

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Request concerning Dallavid

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Abrvagl (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:56, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Dallavid (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBAA2

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

15 September 2022‎ - Restored their edit without reaching consensus
20 September 2022 - Restored their edit without reaching consensus
19 September 2022‎ - Restored their edit without reaching consensus
17 October 2022‎ - Restored their edit without reaching consensus
17 October 2022‎ - Restored their edit without reaching consensus

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

24 March 2021 - Blocked from a user page for Personal attacks or violations of the harassment policy.
19 September 2022 - Blocked for 72 hours from the September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes article for edit warring.

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Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above 15 October 2022
Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on 5 October 2022
Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on 5 October 2022.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

On September 14, 2022, Dallavid made this contentious edit to the September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes article, after which they started a talk page discussion on Talk:September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes#Undue weight. They also made a similar edit to the 2021–2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis article. Dallavid's edit on the September 2022 clashes article was reverted by another user (Viewsridge) who also replied at the discussion Dallavid had opened. On September 15, while the discussion was still going on the talk page, Dallavid restored their own edit. This time, I undid their edit and requested that they first reach a consensus within the edit summary. I also commented on the discussion to further explain my objection to the edit. Another user then restored Dallavid's edit, but the user Sandstein reverted it with this edit summary: No opinion on the merits, but this version of the lead is confusing and a stylistic catastrophe; see MOS:LEAD. On September 19, Dallavid restored their edit once more. I asked Dallavid to go back and reach a decision first in accordance with WP:ONUS. On the same day, Dallavid again restored their edit after another user had undone it. On September 20, I restored stable version of the lead and asked the involved editors to reach consensus. Dallavid stopped reinstating their edit for about a month after that. A number of editors improved the lead during that time. On October 17, however, Dallavid abruptly reinstated their edit once more, citing the edit summary no additional discussion in the talk page about the lead's undue weight. as justification. They also reinstated same edit on the 2021–2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis. article

Dallavid most likely did not even check edits made to the lead during their absence and simply copy-pasted their edit, because by reinstating their edit, Dallavid also reverted a number of edits from other users without any explanation. For example, their edit also reverted this edit, which was made based on a consensus between several editors.

Dallavid appear to have engaged in edit warring behavior, which continued even after they was blocked and warned for it. This could also be a case of tendentious editing, because Dallavid is not only pushing their POV and not dropping the stick after being opposed by a number of editors, but they continue to do so even after being told that their edit doesn't comply with Wikipedia's MOS. The version of lead Dallavid proposed, which contains things like The Azerbaijani Defence Ministry and Turkish media falsely claimed..., ...which was disproven by multiple third-party sources, delivers no new information, but was written in a tendentious way rather than in encyclopedic and neutral tone.

Since I made the report, Dallavid has continued their tendentious editing and edit warring:

26 October 2022 - Dallavid partially restores their edit, justifying it with a very clear consensus despite the fact that there are three users actively opposing Dallavid's change.
24 October 2022‎ - Dallavid restores a category by the name "Azerbaijani war crimes" in an article about Nazi massacre in Poland simply because of the participation of some ethnic Azerbaijanis.
26 September 2022 - Although not done after the report, this is a good example Dallavid's tendentious editing: Dallavid removed a whole section from the Ruben Vardanyan (businessman) article, which was supported by reliable sources such as RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty, Eurasianet, OCCRP and The Guardian, justifying it with only "alleged" by one source with no evident reliability, is a BLP violation. Yet two days later, on 28 September 2022, Dallavid adds contentious material to an article about Nasimi Aghayev, a living person, and supports it with a bunch of Twitter links and a Fox11 source. A b r v a g l^(PingMe) 20:26, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: Done

Discussion concerning Dallavid

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Statement by Dallavid

How is my September 14th edit "contentious"? It was reliably sourced and, as Abrvagl admits, I opened a talk page discussion right afterward to further elaborate and so anyone that wanted to dispute them could discuss it. Abrvagl is incorrect in saying that I reverted Viewsridge, who had claimed there was an issue with my sources in his edit summary but never elaborated what that was, and his removal of my edit also broke several reference tags. Viewsridge was instead reverted by User:Blaylockjam10.[38] Abrvagl also neglected to mention that, in edition to my edit, Abrvagl was also reverting the edits of several other users,[39][40][41] and that User:UserXpetVarpet restored my edit that Abrvagl reverted.[42] When I restored the edits on September 19th, that had been two days after User:Knižnik (himself being reverted by Viewsridge) made a talk page post agreeing[43] that the "both sides accused each other" wording was very undue, given that multiple third-party politicians and organizations confirmed Azerbaijan was the aggressor. These false balance points were further agreed on by User:XTheBedrockX.[44] That is why I restored a version making it clear that Azerbaijan attacked Armenia; there was a clear talk page consensus to do so. But I didn't restore the exact same header, as I had taken care to reword it in order to address Sandstein's stylistic concerns. The user who reverted me was Viewsridge again[45], who bizarrely claimed "Changes opposed by multiple users and discussed against inclusion in the talk page" even though the False balance discussion showed the opposite was true; multiple users opposed the changes Viewsridge was making and he never even replied to them on the talk page. Abrvagl's September 20th edit was not the stable version, and it is very odd for him to have said "lets achieve consensus version at talk fist", because there had already been a talk page consensus established by Knižnik, XTheBedrockX, and myself. Abrvagl and Viewsridge continued to revert other users and asking them to "achieve consensus" while at the same time not participating in the talk page consensus they were reverting. Abrvagl was then reverted by Blaylockjam10 again[46], and Abrvagl continued to remove other user's edits such as User:Vanezi Astghik.[47]

As both the Undue weight and False balance discussions show, Abrvagl and Viewsridge never responded to any of the other users explaining to them why the "both sides" wording is undue after September 16th and 17th, respectively, but they both continued to revert other users well after those dates who were simply including what the talk page consensus decided on.

This is clearly just a content dispute, mostly from over a month ago. It's a shame that Abrvagl's first thought was to make an enforcement request instead of joining the talk page discussion he neglected to reply to for over a month. If he had bothered to read the talk page, he would know that the version he claims I proposed was actually a consensus established by multiple other users. --Dallavid (talk) 20:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I trimmed parts of my statement with invisible HTML Comments to meet the 500 word limit. I would like to be given permission to included those parts as well so that I can fully defend myself against the large amount of false accusations Abrvagl made. --Dallavid (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Vanezi Astghik

Dallavid had only made changes that the talk page consensus had already decided on. It is actually Abrvagl who has engaged in edit warring behavior, both with me and with other users on this article. --Vanezi (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Olympian

@User:Vanezi Astghik If you took the time to read the evidence listed by Abrvagl, you'll find that in fact, Dallavid didn't adhere to talk page consensus at all. – Olympian ^loquere 17:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Blaylockjam10

The main thing I remember about this is reverting edits that removed text and references that supported that text. It seemed like those edits were done to remove text and references that made Azerbaijan look bad. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 04:46, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by XTheBedrockX

I definitely agreed with Dallavid that it was likely WP:UNDUE to state that both sides blamed each other without mentioning that a number of third party sources also claimed that Azerbaijan was encroaching into Armenia. The non-regional perspectives were important, and also, I think, notable enough to mention in the lead. In any case, though, I don't thank an arbitration request was necessary to resolve this. Contentious reverting without consensus is certainly uncalled for - but questions and debates about WP:NPOV and consensus-building are also a normal part of Wikipedia. I believe Dallavid was acting in WP:GOODFAITH, and I simply don't agree that Dallavid was being anywhere close to disruptive enough to warrant this. User:XTheBedrockX (talk)

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Result concerning Dallavid

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Saucysalsa30

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Request concerning Saucysalsa30

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: TheTimesAreAChanging (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 01:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Saucysalsa30 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2 or Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds and Kurdistan

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

18:37, 29 October 2022: Revert 1.
21:58, 29 October 2022: Revert 2.
23:01, 29 October 2022: Revert 3.
03:09, 27 October 2022: Talk page comments that may run afoul of WP:BLP.

As explained in greater detail in my report at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard, Saucysalsa30 has reverted three times in less than 24 hours to accuse prominent Vermont Democrat Peter Galbraith (who sought the gubernatorial nomination in 2016) of singlehandedly concocting ("his claim of") additional Iraqi chemical attacks on Kurdish civilians shortly following the end of the Iran–Iraq War (during Galbraith's tenure on the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations), but "Despite Galbraith's claim, physicians from the United Nations, International Red Cross, and Turkey did not find any evidence of chemically inflicted wounds." Saucysalsa30's reverts actively remove the subject's direct response to this accusation (i.e., "To dismiss the eyewitness accounts, however, would require one to believe that 65,000 Kurdish refugees confined to five disparate locations were able to organize a conspiracy to defame Iraq and these refugees were able to keep their conspiracy secret.") and incorrectly portray Galbraith as the only source for the chemical attacks reported.

Meanwhile, at Talk:Peter Galbraith (albeit prior to being notified of the AP2 sanctions), Saucysalsa30 made additional unsourced claims that Galbraith acted as "a politically-motivated and controversial politician making a claim and attempting legislative action on something that wasn't true to push his long-running political agenda that he would eventually and profoundly benefit from financially". Furthermore, Saucysalsa30 incorrectly labelled my own edits to the article as "vandalism" and "self-admitted disruptive editing."

To me, this behavior is shocking and unacceptable in any article that falls within the AP2 topic area. And, while I originally drafted this as an AP2 complaint, I doubt that the Kurds and Kurdistan topic area benefits by having an editor who incorrectly states that only 100 people died in the Halabja massacre (which is not consistent with declassified Iraqi military intelligence documents), or that the Anfal campaign was "made up" by Kanan Makiya (citing a source that directly, repeatedly contradicts this assertion).

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

18:09, 29 November 2020: Blocked 60 hours by Drmies for edit warring following a BOOMERANG at WP:AN3.

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Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above, as well as these diffs: [48], [49].

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

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Discussion concerning Saucysalsa30

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Statement by Saucysalsa30

(Kindly requesting more than 500 words from admins, and requesting admins to review this in full. It demonstrates TheTimesAreAChanging starting edit warring and 3 reverts in less than 24 hours by him, refutes both other misconstrued accusations, and shows examples of related personal attacks and hounding by TTAAC, and the inappropriate edit summaries with false accusations/attacks).

First, I'd like to point out TheTimesAreAChanging made this enforcement request right after an edit with personal attacks and falsities about me, including the very first sentence[50]: "Saucysalsa30 has a reputation as a remarkably extreme pro-Iraqi Ba'th Party partisan editor". I have no such "reputation", and his basis for this absurd insult and WP:PA violation? That I use American (generally anti-Iraqi and especially anti-former Baath Party regime) mainstream media, academic works, and so on, as sources, and have proven some of his fringe theories wrong in the past with said sourcing.

To give some background, TheTimesAreAChanging hounds me whenever I'm active on the site (including to the Anfal campaign article he has links to where his first entrance to the Talk page a comment for nothing on topic, just to attack me when I and other editors were discussing information and consensus building [51]), and engages in false accusations, disruptive editing often with a refusal to engage on the Talk page and has been overruled by multiple editors such as this example [52] (this RfC only came after he engaged in substantial disruptive editing despite repeated consensus against him, and his Talk page comments largely comprising uncivil behavior and attacks), and edit warring. He has been given a formal warning before by an admin to stop this kind of behavior against me,[53] but it hasn't stopped him from continuing on multiple occasions since then including now. There is lots to say about TheTimes' questionable editing behavior, and every misrepresented accusation he's made against me in his last paragraph has been challenged and refuted by myself and other editors previously, such as [54], but they're not very relevant to this topic.

In this latest instance of hounding, TheTimesAreAChanging followed me to an article on which he had no prior activity, and directly engaged me in his edit summaries. He evidently noticed that just a couple days ago I had activity on Peter Galbraith [55] in which I fixed a mix of failed verification, OR, and information about Galbraith that is a direct violation of BLP and is factually wrong about him, where I explained my changes in the Talk page with sources and explanation.[56] TheTimes evidently saw my activity, followed me to the page, and his action was edits with summaries comprising false accusations and false information, already sourced and explained in the Talk page. Since this enforcement request is based on false accusations he made, I'll address those.

1. First, TheTimesAreAChanging's edit warring:

It's strange that TheTimesAreAChanging charges this when his very first back-to-back edits on the article were a partial revert of changes I made.[57][58]

TheTimesAreAChanging has engaged in 3 reverts in less than 24 hours (strange he reports me of this, when he started reverting/"fixing" my edits in the first place),

Revert 1: 08:18, 29 October 2022: His first editing on the Peter Galbraith article. Partial revert of my edit and adding in other info with no justification than a false accusation/attacks in the edit summary
Revert 2: 21:22, 29 October 2022: Full revert by TTAAC
Revert 3: 22:45, 29 October 2022: Reverting all additions I made to the article entirely

He saw no purpose in explaining his changes in the Talk page, either, like I had, demonstrating an unwillingness to build consensus.

2. TheTimesAreAChanging's two false accusations in the body

This accusation by TheTimes is completely false: Saucysalsa30 made additional unsourced claims that Galbraith acted as "a politically-motivated and controversial politician making a claim and attempting legislative action on something that wasn't true to push his long-running political agenda that he would eventually and profoundly benefit from financially". and he deliberately misrepresents it by leaving out the last part of the quote: ", already noted in this Talk page and article."[59] It's clear that TheTimes' didn't bother to read the Talk page and article before making this accusation. Galbraith's controversial relationship with and financial benefits from Iraqi Kurdish groups was thoroughly discussed in two Talk page sections, and there's a whole section on the article about it.

TheTimes' other accusation of me of singlehandedly concocting is likewise disingenuous. I never said he "singlehandedly concocted it", and his embellishment further demonstrates the deceptive nature of this enforcement request. The reality is, Galbraith drafted a bill making the claim he championed before the US government[60]. Even if we say he wasn't the original claimant, he did adopt and champion and did make this claim before the US government. Saying "his claim" is not inaccurate at all, because it's something he was saying after all. Here is a definition of "claim" [61]: a statement that something is true although it has not been proved and other people may not agree with or believe it. Yes, Galbraith made a statement that something was true, with the addition of not being proven. He literally introduced legislation in the US government.

I should point out that in a desperate attempt to defend himself in an ANI section about his conduct, he even accused me of making real-life threats before, claiming that I somehow know or care where he lives and sending him hate mail.[62] He got his dates wrong too in this ludicrous accusation, claiming "during the height of our previous dispute in 2021, and which I can email to anyone who is interested. Dated March 15, 2021". The dispute TheTimes described happened in January 2021 (not March 2021 as he falsely claims), and ended when EvergreenFir temporarily locked 3 articles as a result of their actions and issued a warning to TheTimes [63]. I was happy about the admin intervention ending that mess in Jan 2021. I only had 2 edits in the entire month of March 2021 to fix a typo on a movie article and another on my Talk page[64][65] (you can verify this on my contribs), so this "during the height of our previous dispute" is already a provably false statement that TheTimes made that false accusation with. Curiously, he says he's "terrified" of me, yet relentlessly hounds and harasses me on Wikipedia.

3. Let's take a look at some of TheTimesAreAChanging's false accusations/disruption in edit summaries to justify his reverts:

"to the potentially serious WP:BLP/WP:SYNTH claims—such as the implication that Galbraith is a liar with a financial conflict of interest—introduced by User:Saucysalsa30" [66]

First, he accuses me of introducing something that's been on the article since 2009, as linked above. I added nothing about his conflict of interests to the article, and such information has been discussed in this Talk page multiple times as linked above and has been on the article since at least 2009. [67] After all, I removed proven BLP/SYNTH violations from this article as pointed out in the article's Talk section.

Considering that topic about oil interests/financial gain was exactly the target of disruptive editing by Devotedamerican, as summarized in a news article about it [68], it's strange TheTimes is defending disruptive editing.

"Dropped unnecessary and inaccurate WP:WEASEL language about "his claim"" [69]

Already explained earlier about the definition of "claim" and yes, it is a claim he made, but this is is an unsourced claim on TheTimes' part that it is "inaccurate". Galbraith went back to the US from Turkey, championed this claim, and immediately drafted a bill for the US Senate precisely on this claim he set before them. Why is TheTimes engaging in WP:OR by saying it is inaccurate with no sourcing to back it up?

"RV unexplained content removal." [70]

Another false claim. This point is made and sourced in the Talk section, with a good source focused solely on the topic, not a bibliographical note that somehow manages to make multiple errors in a couple sentences. In fact, these were more or less little more than general administrative/state records. Linking the source from the Talk page again. [71]

"You may object to the term "secret police" but, for the record, the description of Ba'thist Iraq as a dictatorship with secret police is a widespread view in mainstream reliable sources; if anything, the opposite view that Ba'thist Iraq was a benevolent democracy with normal police would be WP:FRINGE"

No one said otherwise... the point is that sources, especially those focused on it, and like linked above, denote them as state records/government records/regime records and so on. It's incorrect and loaded, at best, to give the label TheTImes insists on. They aren't specifically police or secret police records as already shown with sourcing. This does bring up a good point: it shouldn't be labeled as "police" in the first place. That is another case of controversial wording/BLP vio TheTimes is attempting to have on the article.

4. TheTimesAreAChanging Enforcement History on American Politics

When he realized he couldn't bludgeon into getting his way, it appears he turned to this forum. Considering TheTimesAreAChanging had been indefinitely blocked before on the topic of American politics [72] with the explanation "TheTimesAreAChanging placed on indefinite probation in the topic area for refusal to gain consensus before making controversial edits.". In this case he did not seek consensus either. He was also blocked for violating the topic ban [73]. He later requested for it to be lifted, and given his continued behavior on Peter Galbraith and other articles of what the the original topic ban was for, it appears justified to reinstate it. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle Just pointing out a critical error in your statement. You linked specifically to stats on the Peter Galbraith Talk page, not the article. Did you mean to do that? Yes, the Talk page has been largely inactive since 2016. Yes, things like URLs add a lot of characters too. The link for the article tells a much different story. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Peter%20Galbraith

Same with Anfal campaign, you linked to stats on the the Talk page. Why are you saying "in the entire existence of the article" when it's not on the article but on the Talk page? And yes, most of that was addressing personal attacks, insults, and false accusations by TheTimesAreAChanging, and again, lots of sourcing/URLs in the Talk page.

I should also point out on the topic of the DS awareness, you were formally warned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds_and_Kurdistan#Paradise_Chronicle_warned, yet you still make POV, unilateral edits on articles including on Anfal campaign without discussion or consensus such as [74]. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 08:15, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by RAN1

I'm only filing this statement since I DS-alerted Saucysalsa30 (in fact, my alert is the only one that appears in the DS tag search). I only became aware of Saucysalsa30's actions through TTAAC's BLP post. The post ran long, so I didn't look through any of the 10+ diffs in it, and assumed this was a recent development and that Saucysalsa30 hadn't been alerted before today. I researched the relevant citation, verified it and reverted Saucysalsa30 because they claimed the material failed verification before their edit summary war with TTAAC. I then alerted both them and TTAAC on the Kurds DS. I didn't think there would be a prior deleted notice if this was at BLPN, so I didn't see Saucysalsa30 had been alerted 3 months ago until after this AE section showed up in my watchlist. RAN1 (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RAN1 Just want to point out for the sake of balance that TheTimesAreAChanging received the same alert before from the same editor ParadiseChronicle on July 31. [75] Saucysalsa30 (talk) 03:18, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Paradise Chronicle

As I have been mentioned I want to explain a bit. I gave the DS awareness note on Kurds and Kurdistan to both editors here and here as they appear to have an issue in the topic area and if only one knows about the DS the other editor might be surprised (blocked, TB'd) that there apply different rules for the topic area than in the "normal" wikipedia.

That said I believe the issue escalated into an ArbCom case per email in which case some Admins might be more familiar with the issue between the two.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:27, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the AE side for Kurds and Kurdistan. I also have noticed that Saucysalsa30 is rather doubtful of Kurdish victims during the Halabja chemical attack or during the Al Anfal campaign. For the Admins and also the reporting and discussing editors sake I'd say its more efficient to strongly warn (once more and a temporary block is in place) them for bludgeoning and disruptive editing as their numerous talk page edits are often of 1000s of bytes with a lot of text not really on the topic and to produce and read the diffs is rather a tiring work.

At Peter Galbraith they are number 1 Here and assembled a 30% share of added content in 3 days.

and at Al Anfal they are way off the top here with a ca. 2/3 share of added content in the entire existence of the article within less than 2 months. This is way more than all editors together in the top 10 combined.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:27, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Saucysalsa30, yes I meant to link to the talk pages. Talk page edits is what WP:BLUDGEON is about. To find your argument which is at best one or two lines within the several WP:WALLOFTEXTs doesn't help to find consensus. Read WP:WALLOFTEXT, its very descriptive of your talk page edits.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 11:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning Saucysalsa30

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@Saucysalsa30: A 1500+ word response is not even close to 500, and permission to exceed limits should be requested first, not ignored and blown through. Please reduce your comments to the required limits, or your comments may be truncated. Verbosity is not a virtue, and your history of talkpage discussions includes walls of text that are not appropriate in this venue. Acroterion (talk) 13:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Toa Nidhiki05

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Request concerning Toa Nidhiki05

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: FormalDude (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 12:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2 § Discretionary sanctions (1992 cutoff)

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

03:57, 27 October 2022 – Not assuming good faith and casting aspersions by telling other editors they'd be better off on a fringe wiki.
15:30, 28 October 2022 – "But given how utterly divorced from reality your argumentation has been, this doesn't surprise me. I'll once again advise you to head to RationalWiki, where your hyperpartisan arguments and information will be accepted readily with open arms."
01:14, 28 October 2022 – "I am going to hastily dismiss your "facts" because they aren't that. Bite me. Take your partisan talking points to RationalWiki or somewhere else where they will be respected."
15:22, 28 October 2022 – Another WP:PA.
00:47, 27 October 2022 – Insulting others with ad hominems.
01:43, 27 October 2022 – Accusing others of "ridiculous political tirades".
03:10 27 October 2022 – "There's no point in having discussion with a brick wall that is dogmatically shouting partisan talking points like they are the be-all, end all of reality."
16:21, 29 October 2022 – Making a WP:PA in their edit summary.
17:35, 29 October 2022 – Calling the ACLU a "left-wing think tank".

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

07:28, 1 June 2022 – Previous block for personal attacks in AP.
16:30, 28 April 2021 – Previous block for edit warring in AP.

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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Toa Nidhiki05's participation in these two discussions (Talk:Republican Party (United States) § Voter rights in the body and Talk:Republican Party (United States) § Add a wikilink at the top of the Voting rights section) amounts to nothing less than disruptive editing and has the effect of stonewalling their progress. There is seemingly no condition under which they would accept this edit resulting from the second dispute, regardless of any baseis in Wikipedia policies or guidelines, and which appears to already have a rough consensus in favor of it. ––FormalDude (talk) 12:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Now Toa has followed me to a page they've never edited before in order to oppose an unrelated RfC I recently opened. ––FormalDude (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

12:31, 30 October 2022

Discussion concerning Toa Nidhiki05

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Statement by Toa Nidhiki05

What a ludicrous report. There’s no consensus for this edit (numerous others have rejected it), as others have noted, and more importantly it isn’t backed up. I should be a bit nicer, but frankly my patience for regurgitation of base hyperpartisan talking points (which both FormalDude and Viriditas have insisted on making}} to justify inflammatory and unproductive edits is minimal. Repeated claims like “this is a fact” while citing to left-wing think tanks are not what I’d consider to be productive discussions. What's abundantly clear is that FormalDude either does not understand that partisan think tanks are not reputable sources of fact, or he doesn't care. And now it’s clear that, rather than actually present quality referencing or engaging, FormalDude just wants to remove me. This case should be summarily closed and returned to the talk page.

For some examples of what's been going on on the page, which includes less-than-polite discussion from both sides.

The Four Deuces noted that FormalDude's claim that all of his sources are objective and none are opinions is untrue; the Washington Post piece was an opinion piece, and another (from Robert Griffin) is from an author whose entire background is working with hyperpartisan partisan organizations like the Center for American Progress. Would we cite the Heritage Foundation to establish that Democrats are bad? No, we wouldn't.
Viriditas making the ludicrous, hyperpartisan claim that "Voter suppression is a policy position of the Republican Party", then making a statement so ridiculous ("The Republican Party is a far right, anti-democratic, authoritarian, pro-Russia political party that believes that one person, one vote should be repealed by a constitutional amendment. They receive much of their funding from the Koch Network, a collection of American oligarchs in the oil, gas, armaments, and industrial sectors who believe that corporations, not individual citizens, should direct the political future of the United States. They wish to rebuild and remake America in the image of authoritarian regimes like Hungary and the Russian Federation. Their primary political positions for achieving these stated goals involves anti-democratic behavior and policymaking that opposes labor unions, Social Security, supporting voter suppression and privatization, and placing impenetrable barriers to popular and social democracy.") that I suggested RationalWiki as a better outlet.
Viriditas making a hypertpartisan political rant ("So when the majority of Republicans openly tell journalists why they don’t want most Americans to vote, and then help pass hundreds of voter suppression bills throughout the country based on the Koch-financed philosophy of economist James M. Buchanan who was against majority-based voting and advocated a constitutional amendment overturning one person one vote—you’re actually telling me that when the evidence is documented, historically demonstrable, and has dark money funding sources tied directly to the GOP donors, you’re going to sit there with a straight face and say "voter suppression is not the official policy of the GOP"? I’m sorry, but there is no higher standard of evidence. Voter suppression is the official policy position of the GOP. Those are the facts."), which I described as such.
FormalDude repeatedly mischaracterizing arguments made by Jayron32, including making incorrect claims about things Jayron32 said.
FormalDude said that "SCOTUS has been killing the VRA softly for decades anyways" and implied that's why we should reject all court cases that don't indicate voter suppression. I told him to "Leave the partisan talking points out of this", to which he responded by cursing at me.
FormalDude declared in bad faith that Springee was not reading the discussion - a remark that was frankly quite rude, given Springee's long and detailed arguments.
FormalDude declared I "just make shit up about sources you don't like" and that I "have to resort to red herrings when you don't have any legitimate counterarguments", a clear violation of WP:AGF
Viriditas asked if I " have a Q drop to attend to" - literally accusing me of believing a conspiracy theory about a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles. If that's not bad faith and inflammatory, I don't know what is.

All of this because some editors object to a hyperlink in a subheading. It's clear this discussion has become heated, but FormalDude's report here is simply not helpful. At all. I urge people to actually look at the edits FormalDude has posted and see what they are responses to. We're here to build an encyclopedia - not to regurgitate the opinions of left-wing think tanks as if they are the light and truth and all that is good and beautiful in the world. We would not use the Heritage Foundation or the Cato Institute or Prager University to claim that Democrats have bad policy, nor should we. All I ask is the same thing be applied both ways.

Toa Nidhiki05 12:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify on RationalWiki: it’s a valuable resource in rejecting pseudoscience. Its page on the GOP is also kind of laughably bad, like Viriditas’s remarks. Toa Nidhiki05 15:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty rich of Valjean to complain about templating when he spuriously templated my talk page for no reason. Maybe provocations like this can be stopped, and instead a discussion can be held on the talk page instead of attempting to ram through edits. Toa Nidhiki05 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by The Four Deuces

The edits that Toa responded to were outrageous suggestions, so their edits calling them that was an accurate response. For example, in the first example presented,[76] Toa was responding to a proposal that the lead for Republican Party (United States) should be changed to begin, "The Republican Party is a far right, anti-democratic, authoritarian, pro-Russia political party that believes that one person, one vote should be repealed by a constitutional amendment." (Viriditas 03:32, 27 October 2022)

While Viriditas may have been expressing a valid opinion that would be acceptable in some fora, obviously the tone and emphasis would be inappropriate for Wikipedia. Even for articles about far right parties, the phrasing is more nuanced.

Viriditas was trolling and Toa's replies should be seen in that context. There should be some way to stop that so that discussions remain constructive. While there's a vague line between legitimate edit proposals and trolling, Viriditas has crossed it and their edits should have been included in this report.

Incidentally, RationalWiki is not a "fringe website," but a respected source that debunks pseudoscience and its supporters.

TFD (talk) 14:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by GoodDay

With the 2022 US mid-term elections just days away & the possibility of Trump becoming the 2024 Republican presidential nominee? Perhaps, administrators should keep a closer eye on the aforementioned discussion at the Republican Party's talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 15:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Andrevan

I am involved in some of the disputes with this user but I must agree they are not consistently civil and frequently make borderline or outright personal attacks. "Two wrongs don't make a right." This user frequently violates WP:AGF and makes statements questioning the impartiality or competence of editors. This user exhibits an WP:OWNership mentality about their articles that they patrol or contribute to about politics, frequently reverting without discussion with an edit warrior mentality. Their rationales are often terse such as "not an improvement" or no reason given. This user should be sanctioned. Andre🚐 16:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Nableezy

The line The Republican Party is a far right, anti-democratic, authoritarian, pro-Russia political party that believes that one person, one vote should be repealed by a constitutional amendment was not a serious proposal, and the person who said that said as much. That said, talk pages are for discussing the topic of the article, not bantering back and forth and seeing which one can make the silliest argument with a straight face. That this generated an equivalently absurd response reminds me of the adage on playing stupid games. Suggest closing this with a reminder to all parties what the purpose of a talk page is. nableezy - 16:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the comments in the diffs are pretty far out there, the ACLU is certainly not a left-wing think tank, law review journals are yes student run but the more widely cited of them are certainly reliable. And there may be reason TB the user per BK below, but I dont see it in the diffs presented here, which all read like par for the course for AP2. nableezy - 17:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Black Kite

I am not a regular editor in the AP2 area, but I am not going to post in the uninvolved admin section here either as I have argued with T05 before over their obviously POV editing. I have noted them having serious problems with Democratic female politicians of colour (see their very extensive edits to shoehorn anything negative into Ilhan Omar, Stacey Abrams and Karine Jean-Pierre - the latter article being one that they were blocked for personal attacks on other editors in June this year). Oddly, that problem doesn't extend to Republican female politicians (i.e. Mayra Flores ). A significant number of their other edits are bludgeoning debates, and not really caring about NPA whilst they're doing it [77]. A significant number of their edits are reverts, or have been reverted themselves, which suggests that they are not following WP:BRD. It is probably time that an AP2 ban arrived at this editor's door. Black Kite (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Springee

I'm certainly involved in this debate. I think it would be best if everyone toned things down a few notches. Personalizing these debates isn't helpful and neither are the over the top comments that can come across as trolling. Tongue in cheek the best thing to do would be lock the page until after the 2022 elections in just over a week. Springee (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Valjean

Toa keeps accusing other editors in a personal attack fashion of being partisan, but their own argumentation chooses partisan talking points and spin over what RS say. We are supposed to prioritize the latter, including wording. Toa is forgetting a founding principle here. "Verifiability, not truth" reminds us that personal opinions about what is "true" do not trump what RS tell us. We apply this every single day when we insist on writing "anti-abortion" rather than "pro-life" (which redirects to Anti-abortion movements). We do not adopt the deceptive talking points of those who advocate fringe positions. When RS describe the abortion stance of conservatives, they often say "anti-abortion", and so should we.

The GOP talking points and spin are that their voter suppression methods are for the sake of "election security" (based on Trump's big lie of a stolen election). When they close polling places in minority areas, forcing people who don't even own a car to travel long distances to vote in white areas, that's voter suppression, and RS call the GOP's methods "suppression". The GOP knows that minorities tend to vote for Democrats, and that there are fewer registered Republicans than Democrats. If they can make it harder for legitimate, registered, minority voters to vote, they have a better chance at winning, so they do all they can to make it much harder for them to vote. They use myriad methods: gerrymandering, closing polling stations in minority districts, limiting voting hours, voter intimidation, rejecting ballots, and purging voter rolls based on last names that sound minority. The GOP makes minorities jump through hoops not required of their privileged, white, elitist base.

We have articles about this, but Toa opposes we even wikilink to our properly-sourced articles. That's a problem. That's what started this mess. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:13, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Toa is continuing their edit warring right now. Also templating the regulars with spurious warnings. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Result concerning Toa Nidhiki05

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Hari147

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Request concerning Hari147

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Hari147 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard_discretionary_sanctions,
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it: Hari147 was topic-banned from ARBIPA topics in June 2020 [78]. As far as I can see, the TBAN was never lifted. They were blocked in March 2022 for TBAN violations [79]. Essentially every single edit they have made since is a TBAN violation: [80], [81], [82], [83], [84], and [85] are a few examples. This user clearly has no intention of abiding by their TBAN, and an indefinite block is warranted. The authority of AE to place an indefinite block is somewhat vague, but I believe any admin could place an indefinite block as an ordinary admin action: TBAN violations are sufficient evidence of disruption. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

notified. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :To clarify on RationalWiki: it’s a valuable resource in rejecting pseudoscience. Its page on the GOP is also kind of laughably bad, like Viriditas’s remarks. '''[[User:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Toa</i>]] [[User talk:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Nidhiki05</i>]]''' 15:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
+::Pretty rich of {{u|Valjean}} to complain about templating when he [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Toa_Nidhiki05&oldid=1119090289 spuriously templated my talk page for no reason]. Maybe provocations like this can be stopped, and instead a ''discussion'' can be held on the talk page instead of attempting to ram through edits. '''[[User:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Toa</i>]] [[User talk:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Nidhiki05</i>]]''' 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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