Jump to content

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"WP:MFD" redirects here. For media for deletion, see Wikipedia:Files for discussion. For modules for deletion, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion.


Deletion discussions
Articles
Templates and modules
Files
Categories
Redirects
Miscellany
Speedy deletion
Proposed deletion

Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of the page are available at

Information on the process

[edit]

What may be nominated for deletion here:

  • Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS: (in the unlikely event it ever contains a page that is not a redirect or one of the 6 disambiguation pages), Event: and the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
  • Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletion

[edit]

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace
  • If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} if it is a userpage, or {{db-author}} or {{db-g7}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?
  • Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace
  • Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding {{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~  to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}.
  • Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
  • Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages
  • Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere.
  • Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages
  • It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.
  • WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication.
  • Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD
  • Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

[edit]

How to list pages for deletion

[edit]
Shortcut

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.
Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd}}

or

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.
If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use {{subst:mfd-inline}} so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.
Use {{subst:mfd-inline|GroupName}} for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
    For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    {{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~

    to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions

[edit]
XFD backlog
V Mar Apr May Jun Total
CfD 0 0 37 31 68
TfD 0 0 12 9 21
MfD 0 0 0 0 0
FfD 0 0 1 7 8
RfD 0 0 0 23 23
AfD 0 0 0 0 0

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions

[edit]

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions

[edit]
Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

June 17, 2025

[edit]

Draft:EA Sports FC IOS Edition2

[edit]
Draft:EA Sports FC IOS Edition2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

This draft is just a duplicate of Template:IOS and is not a plausible redirect to the template. GTrang (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Delete - This is not an article draft because this is a template draft. There is no guideline about template drafts because draft space was not designed for template drafts. There is no guideline that says that we should delete this thing, but there is no reason to keep it. The benefit of keeping it is zero, and the confusion from keeping it is minimal. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Unsolicited advice

[edit]
Wikipedia:Unsolicited advice (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Not a useful addition to project space. Manifesto of an insufficiently collaborative and now indefinitely blocked editor, explaining their divergent attitudes about editing and conduct, that are contrary to the the norms and conventions of the Wikipedia community. If you find feedback, advice, and criticism controlling and demeaning, you can't participate in this encyclopedia-building collaborative project. While this is not an appropriate page for project space, I am not opposed to userfication.—Alalch E. 13:42, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy as a disputed single-author essay. SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:10, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Participation optional

[edit]
Wikipedia:Participation optional (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Not a useful addition to project space. Redundant to Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a volunteer service. And while it appears as if the essay would be explaining the same thing about Wikipedia as that established explanatory essay, the text quickly loses focus and becomes incoherent, as the creator is actually describing some unsatisfying experience they had as a new editor of Wikipedia with no discernible relation to Wikipedia being a voluntary service and participation being optional. —Alalch E. 13:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy as a single-author disputed essay. SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 16, 2025

[edit]

Wikipedia:Not a law library

[edit]
Wikipedia:Not a law library (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

I feel like the contents of this essay can just be merged with WP:NOT. Not to mention it was made by the same blocked editor that made the other essays currently on MfD. Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ critique me 14:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete under criteria 5 of the deletion policy as a WP:BADFORK. Basically, this adds nothing to existing policies and guidelines, namely the lead of WP:NOTREPOSITORY (which already says we are not a digital library) and criteria 3 of that policy and WP:NPS (which already tell us we don't include the full text of every statute because we are not Wikisource) and criteria 5 of WP:PRIMARY etc. The essay is badly written, and the restatement of existing policies and guidelines is not entirely accurate. But the most important problem with this essay is its excessively narrow scope, which would set a precedent for massive numbers of similar essays: We cannot have an essay for every type of library eg "not a physics library", "not a botany library", "not a cricket library", "not a morris dancing library", "not a garden gnome library" etc. A single essay on WP:Wikipedia is not a library might be acceptable if it was well written and told us something we don't already know, but this essay has reached the point of spam. James500 (talk) 15:09, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This essay is actually wrong. There is no reason why Wikipedia cannot contain a stub or Start-Class for every statute passed by a national legislature that has been discussed by reliable sources, and national statutes usually have been described by reliable sources. I mostly agree with the nominator and with James500, but they understate the issue. This essay is contrary to the purpose of a general encyclopedia. There is no reason not to have stubs referring to national laws. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The author of this essay nominated a large number of Acts of the Parliament of England and Parliament of Great Britain for deletion, and criticism of those nominations resulted in the author losing their temper, and then their privilege of editing, so that this essay is sort of a boomerang. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - An encyclopedia is not a library, but an encyclopedia can and should have entries for the books in a library, including physics textbooks and botany textbooks, as well as an entry for each species of plant described in the botany textbooks. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:06, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy as a disputed single-author essay. I read the nom’s “can be merged with” as “is redundant to”. People writing essays do not get the right to influence the policy WP:NOT. As a userspace essay, there are no problems with it, and it is irrelevant that the user is blocked. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sometimes patience is better

[edit]
Wikipedia:Sometimes patience is better (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

I'm am disputing the usefulness of this single-author essay in projectspace. There's no coherent argument. It says that blanking-and-redirecting may "make the page your editing hard to find", but the guideline about blanking-and-redirecting already says It is good practice to notify the article creator or significant contributors using {{uw-blar}} Similarly Wikipedia:Merging says: Any editor can perform a merge. No permission or discussion is needed if you think the merge is uncontroversial; just do it (but it might get reverted). Otherwise, the merge should be first proposed and discussed (emphasis mine). Also, Wikipedia:Be bold § Be careful is an entire section about how sometimes "patience" is better. It might be that the creator of this essay, who is a relatively new user, had some of their articles turned into redirects and wrote about their dissatisfaction with this. —Alalch E. 11:09, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy. A reasonable useressay. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Tag updating

[edit]
Wikipedia:Tag updating (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Not a useful addition to projectspace. Redundant to Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems and Help:Maintenance template removal. Includes sentences such as "You cannot solely rely on the tags themselves, the article content itself is relevant." —Alalch E. 10:51, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy. Per nom. No reason to delete over Userfying. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:DAB (disambiguation)

[edit]
Wikipedia:DAB (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Hatnote is sufficient per WP:TWOOTHER. There was no consensus to use this page at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation/Archive 55 § Redirects in WP:DABCOMBINE? —Bagumba (talk) 07:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Hatnotes are low quality information in the prime real estate of the page. DAB pages are better. SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:43, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Notified: Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation. —Bagumba (talk) 10:04, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This page can be used in the hatnote to make it more concise: {{Redirect|WP:DAB}}, which yields...
"WP:DAB" redirects here. For other uses, see WP:DAB (disambiguation).
P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 10:48, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 14, 2025

[edit]

Draft:Lies about chemtrails, the big coverup on wikipedia

[edit]
Draft:Lies about chemtrails, the big coverup on wikipedia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

This doesn't meet any CSD but, in my view, warrants an MfD delete. WP:SOAPBOX applies in draft space and I believe that this violates WP:NOTADVOCACY or WP:NOTOPINION or both. The user did submit the article through AfC as well, which I know means we should scrutinise it a bit more than if it were unsubmitted per points raised at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Lil star(artist). I would also say that this is similar to Draft:Djanildo Vicente or Draft:We Are One: Our Nepali Roots Can Never Be Erased. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:32, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete Nonsense soapbox, without even any attempt at sourcing. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:19, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Elon Musk e Israel Robles Sánchez

[edit]
Draft:Elon Musk e Israel Robles Sánchez (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Spanish language WP:NOTESSAY, appears to be some LLM drivel about nothing in particular. Strongly suspect creator is WP:NOTHERE and that this is created as promotion for the creator or their pet project. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 09:00, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as per nominator - There are at least three problems with this page:
  1. This doesn't appear to be a draft encyclopedic article.
  2. This is in Spanish (and this is the English Wikipedia), and it isn't worth translating (having machine-translated it).
  3. This reads like it was generated by a large language model.

June 13, 2025

[edit]

Draft:Miss Charm 2025

[edit]
Draft:Miss Charm 2025 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

There is no evidence in the references that this event exists or will held. Sciencefish (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NDRAFT. MfD is not a forum for examining bad drafts. All bad pages in draftspace will be managed by the G13 process. MfD is not a forum for responding to sockpuppetry, not unless requested by an SPI clerk or checkuser. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 12, 2025

[edit]

Talk:Progressive scan DVD player

[edit]
Talk:Progressive scan DVD player (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Orphaned talk page with no discussion. Proposed for speedy deletion under CSD G8 which was contested —danhash (talk) 15:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to match the subject. G8 does not apply. SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Legend of 14/Civility is optional

[edit]
User:Legend of 14/Civility is optional (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Civility is the fourth pillar of Wikipedia. Reasonable editors may disagree reasonably as to how to enforce civility, and we may fall short in maintaining civility, but civility is not optional. This essay is contrary to Wikipedia policy and should not be in user space or project space. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Old business

[edit]


Closed discussions

[edit]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&oldid=1296074424"