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Citing Web sources from sites that are currently unavailable

I'm trying to add citations to the page Oksana Markarova, the current Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, but I'm running into an issue where the Ukrainian government sites that I would like to cite are down/not responding.

Unfortunately, the only copy of the webpage in question which details the time she spent in her position as Commissioner for Investment that I can find online are the ones that Google has cached - would it still be possible to add them as a citation followed by a Template:Dead link? If so, how do I resolve the accessdate issue? Echohawkdown (talk) 03:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey! Generally, I'd recommend checking out the information at Help:Archiving a source and seeing if Internet Archive had a copy. However, it doesn't seem to have a copy of that page yet. So, I'd mark it with {{Dead link}} and probably just leave the access date out of the citation entirely for now. I'm assuming the site is down from cyberattacks with the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War, so I think it'll probably be back eventually when this all comes to some form of resolution. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 03:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks - as noted, the page hasn't been archived on the Wayback Machine. I'll just use Template:Dead link in the meantime. Echohawkdown (talk) 03:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Echohawkdown You can always archive the Google cache version and place that. The google cache version will eventually go away once the original version does, but the archived version will stay.

I did so before it went down: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/DbN79. Note the google cache page was text only, and I am not sure if it had the information you were looking for Rlink2 (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Echohawkdown: Hello Echo! You can see if there is an archive of the source by using the Wayback Machine (AKA Internet Archive). You can also use the Internet Archive Bot to archive all the links it can on the page which will possibly also find other dead links only in archive form. An advantage of IA bot is that it doesn't just user the Internet Archive website but a few other archival websites as well. Hope this helps! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks - as noted, the page hasn't been archived on the Wayback Machine. I'll give the Internet Archive Bot a try though, since I wasn't aware of it before. Echohawkdown (talk) 03:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Echohawkdown: If you don't know how to use it then I can run it on that page real quick. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:53, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I've gone ahead and run the bot on the page and it appears the link you found is indeed dead and has been tagged. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Thanks - I didn't have perms to queue up jobs for IAB (possibly because I need edits/contributions on MetaWiki first? Documentation was unclear). I've managed to access the page in question by using a VPN with an exit node in Ukraine, since Ukraine's Ministry of Finance has restricted access to their sites to Ukrainian IP addresses, per this article from Bloomberg (paywall).

I've updated the citation accordingly, but now I'm stuck with a different problem: the {{Dead link}} says it was dead as of Feb 2022, but the access date was 2022-03-01. Do I leave it as is? I've already left a note on the talk page about the Ministry of Finance's IP restriction policy, but I'm at a loss at how to reconcile the dates on this particular citation. Echohawkdown (talk) 10:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Echohawkdown: I would just leave it. Dunno why the access date is yesterday. However that is interesting that the website is restricted to Ukrainian IPs. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Just wanted to pop in - @Echohawkdown:, you may find archive.is more useful for tracking down dead URLs; unlike the WayBack Machine, if a URL isn't currently archived on archive.is, it will display links to check if it's archived elsewhere, or available on google cache. I've found it lifesaving many times for URLs I once thought unsalvageable.--Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 22:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you all this thread is extremely helpful - I have been running into the same issue on an author page I am working on.Earnsthearthrob (talk) 17:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

How to order different offices held by a politican

Hi! I was editing a politician's infobox and wanted help regarding the ordering of the offices he held. Should the most important office be inserted first (top-most) followed by offices in descending order of importance, or should I insert them in reverse chronological order? Or is there a third way? Toofllab (talk) 19:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it seems that the order should be chronological, so whatever their most recent held office is should be at the top. I'm not sure if there is an official ruling on this, but it seems that every politician article lists them chronologically. ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 21:17, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tunakanski what you describe is commonly called "reverse chronological order"; most recent at the top. This order is used in the infobox, but in the article text events are reported in proper chronological order; birth to death. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Not sure what the standard approach is, but William Howard Taft seems to be ordered by most notable (given that it goes President, SC Chief Justice, etc etc), despite Taft having served as President before being on the SC. Jakoats02 (talk) 10:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Golden Hours magazine has wrong content, am I taking the right steps to change it?

I am researching a future article, and wanted to see if there was an article about the children's religious magazine Golden Hours. I found Golden Hours (magazine) which seems to contain information about the children's magazine The Golden Argosy, which later became the adult periodical Argosy (magazine). My main source of reference for the magazine contents is the respected reference book Children's Periodicals of the United States by R. Gordon Kelly, published by Greenwood Press. I also have other reference sources. My plan is to move the current contents of the Golden Hours (magazine) to Argosy (magazine) and revise Golden Hours (magazine) to show the actual contents of the periodical. I checked the Golden Hour history and wrote the creator on his Talk page, asking if he had any objections to this. I also wrote on the Golden Hours (magazine) Talk page to let anyone following this article know that I plan to radically change it. I will wait a couple of weeks to see if there is any objections, and then make sure I have at least three good references for the revised article. Is there anything else I need to do before totally deleting a current article, and rewriting it? Karenthewriter (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC) Karenthewriter (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

P.S. – I wasn't planning on working on this magazine, but I am researching an old book series, written by someone who was once on the staff of Golden Hours. That's when I fell down the rabbit hole of wanting to fix an inaccurate article, so I can have good links for my new article. Karenthewriter (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Karenthewriter. I see no evidence either in Golden Hours (magazine) or in the sources it cites that it is the same magazine as The Golden Argosy. Ashley mentions Golden Hours in a footnote to the section about Golden Argosy, talking about the way that "golden" became fashionable - if Golden Argosy had been the same magazine as Golden Hours, surely he would have said so? ColinFine (talk) 19:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Whatever happens, you should add a WP:HATNOTE in the article The Golden Argosy (an unrelated book). Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine I apologize for posting here, I messed up big time. The opening line of the article is "Golden Hours was first published in January 1888." The reference, The History of the Science Fiction Magazine, states "he began publication of a children’s weekly story-paper, The Golden Argosy, first issue dated 9 December 1882 .... He decided to shift towards an adult audience, and his first move was to disassociate The Golden Argosy from the 'golden' name, shortening its title to The Argosy... That made me believe that the two magazines were being confused. But I now see that there is a footnote mentioning Golden Hours, and the date of its first issue. I didn’t take the time to read the footnote – I thought that the main body of the page was being referenced.

I learned a hard lesson – read every line of a reference before assuming there's a problem. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:31, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, Karenthewriter. We all make mistakes, and I've certainly been guilty of not reading something carefully enough when responding to it. ColinFine (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Importing CSS from another wiki into my Common.css page

Hi! I was wondering if there is a way to import CSS from a Common.css page in another language Wikipedia or wiki into my own common.css page. Is there any code for me to write in my CSS page?

Thanks!

Leejordan9 ^talk
_sandbox 01:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

You could just copy it. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 02:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Leejordan9. Please be specific in questions, e.g. linking a page you want to import. You can import a CSS page with code like this:

@import url("https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SMcCandlish/codefont.css?action=raw&ctype=text/css");

PrimeHunter (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry! Here is my situation:

Since I work on various different wikis and languages, I would like my Common.css pages on all the wikis to import the CSS from my main English Wikipedia Common.css, so that when I update this one page the changes are reflected throughout all the wikis. Currently, my Common.css pages are all slightly different and are not all up to date, but it would be ideal if I could just write a line of code that would link the CSS page to my English Wikipedia one.

Thanks for your response! Judging by these details, would the line of code you wrote still work for this situation?

Thanks! — Leejordan9 ^talk
_sandbox 15:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I actually just tried this, and seemed to have worked on the French Wikipedia!

Thanks! — Leejordan9 ^talk
_sandbox 15:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Leejordan9: This is a great example of why it's best to be specific. If your real goal is to make CSS run at all wikis then you can just use "Shared CSS/JavaScript for all wikis" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

When a user won't talk to you

Hello! I am curious to know if any of you have had an experience in which you have tried to talk to somebody, but they won't respond. A user on this site constantly reverts my edits across various articles but will never talk in human terms on any talk page, whether it be mine, theirs, or the article's. I have made a desperate plea for conversation on this user's talk page. After I added this section to their page, I still have gotten edits reversed and copy and paste things on my talk page, but no response on their talk page. I feel targeted, and I am extremely frustrated that conversation is not happening and human justification is not present, just copied and pasted tidbits about policy without any explanation. I don't want to request a block, if that sort of thing is even possible, but I just feel hopeless in that nothing will improve. These experiences with this one user have been occurring since I joined Wikipedia last year.I want to know if any of you fine people out there would be willing to give me advice on your experiences or how to deal with someone who just won't start a dialogue on a talk page. GeorgeBailey (talk) 03:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I just checked my contributions page and see that this user has reverted a dozen more of my edits in the past couple of hours. All I did was put newer photos of members of the New York State Senate. What about that calls for reversions across dozens of articles? I can't improve the website with the user essentially stalking me around. The most basic things that I do get reverted. I feel extremely disheartened, frustrated, and targeted. If there can be an end to this that isn't me leaving this website, I would love to hear it. GeorgeBailey (talk) 03:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: I notice that the user (BlueboyLINY) has been citing WP:FAIRUSE for some of the reverts, suggesting the images aren't public domain. Not sure how true this is though (i'm currently too exhausted to look into this too much). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

All images that I use for the state senators come from the same source. Most of my edits are either put as vandalism, non-constructive, or disruptive editing. GeorgeBailey (talk) 04:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: What is this source that you say is public domain? I'm only asking so I could possibly see if it is actually public domain or not. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

All the photos come from the Flickr page NY Senate photo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/182869894@N06/with/51912788929/), and they publish all of their photos under the Attribution 2.0 Generic (CC BY 2.0) license. I shouldn't say public domain, I mean the type of license allowed on this website. GeorgeBailey (talk) 04:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: I'm not a copyright expert so I"m not sure if that is actually allowed here on Wikipedia or not. I wish I could help you further but my only advice would be to report the user to WP:ANI, and i"m not actually sure if that's correct. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Please note that GeorgeBailey is not uploading the images "here on Wikipedia", but to Wikimedia Commons - see his contributions there. Some of them (e.g. commons:File:(01-20-22)_NYS_Senate_Finance_Chair_Liz_Krueger.jpg, which is on Liz Krueger) have a note stating the image "was confirmed to be licensed under the terms of the cc-by-2.0." GoingBatty (talk) 04:15, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I have asked. -- Hoary (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: While BlueboyLINY ought to respond to you, I don't disagree with all of their actions. You're very often replacing existing photos of politicians with photos in which they are wearing masks. While these may be slightly more up to date photos of the same politicians, I'm of the opinion that bemasked photos are of significantly less use in an encyclopedia, since they show only a small portion portion of the subject's face, making them harder to identify. Thus the claim of 'disruptive editing', while slightly combative, is not exactly wrong. Of course, if this is what BlueboyLINY thought about your edits, they ought to have explained themselves to you. I also think that BlueboyLINY's apparent stalking of your revision history is disruptive in itself. This could all be easily resolved if BlueboyLINY were to make a comment here. — JThistle38 (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I've gotten a response! Not to my thing on their talk page, but they have once again claimed disruptive editing on my talk page, except this time there was some good reasoning that I didn't understand before! I'm pretty happy with this simple explanation that has cleared my confusion. GeorgeBailey (talk) 13:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey:, there is a standing question about your own conflicts of interest regarding New York State politics, particularly Lee Zeldin and the New York Federation of College Republicans, that you have not answered. You also seem to have personal opinions about mask mandates that are influencing your edits. It is disingenuous to complain that other users aren't answering your queries when you yourself have failed to answer this question. A plain and honest answer would help your relations with other users. -Apocheir (talk) 01:14, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Apocheir, would that be this question (raised by Snooganssnoogans)? I note that GeorgeBailey's next edit to his talk page was to delete the question (and much else). -- Hoary (talk) 02:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Apocheir: I already clarified recently on my own talk page that I don't have any COI to affect my editing, which I should have done previously. I deleted my talk page all at once because it was getting too long. I did think the COI inquiry was more of an gotcha moment than an actual question at first, and I can see now that getting a clean slate could be misinterpreted. When you mention a "personal opinion", if you are referring to you reverting many edits about a mask mandate vote, calling it undue, I would not say that "In 2022, ______ voted with all Senate Democrats against getting rid of school mask mandates" is any personal opinion. It's an important vote that should be included in an article (but unfortunately, not a lot of votes from NY state senate and assembly have been covered over the years). In that kind of situation, I would have wanted to collaborate and discuss better wording for that phrase, or how to cover the vote better on an individual's page. What would be your fix? Should individual votes on legislation be on an individual's article? I would love to talk more about this, and I appreciate you reaching out! GeorgeBailey (talk) 03:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Situationism and disambiguation

I wanted to see the Wikipedia article on the the avant-garde arts group the Situationists, and I punched "Situationism" into my search engine. It came up with a blurb about a psychological theory above a Wikipedia link, with a heading of "Situationism" and a subheading of "Psychology." Clicking on the link leads to the Wikipedia article entitled "Situationism (psychology)." Under the title it says "for other uses, see Situationism (disambiguation)." Clicking on that leads to the disambiguation page, where one of the choices IS "A term incorrectly applied to the ideas of the Situationist International..." with "Situationist International" highlighted in blue. Clicking on that gave me the page I was looking for. I've never heard of a "controversy" over the word, and I'm sure "Situationism" is the word in common usage, and I'm sure that's what people search on. I don't think your average punter knows of disambiguation, and I don't think they'd stick around when the only thing that comes up in their seArch refers only to Psychology. I don't understand the intricacies of disambiguation or article movement, but is there a more efficient and logical way to access the arts group page while using "Situationsism" as the search term? Pete Best Beatles (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pete Best Beatles: Hi there! Here on Wikipedia, if you search for "Situationism" or "Situationists", you are redirected to Situationist International. Unfortunately, we can't control how search engines present Wikipedia data. However, if you'd like to change the hatnote on Situationism (psychology) so people coming from the search engine see a link to Situationist International, then be bold and do so. Another option is to post your concerns or suggestions on one of the article's talk pages. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:23, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I guess I want to know if there's a way to bypass the "Situationist (psychology)" page altogether by either 1) adding "Situationist International" to the clickable list People also search for that appears below the initial Wikipedia link, 2) adding something like "Situationism - art's group"" to that list and link to the "Situationist International" article, or 3) retitle the "Situation International" article based on common usage despite the controversy over the name. (My guess is you'll say choices 1 and 2 are parts you say we can't control). -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 11:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pete Best Beatles - we simply don't own Google, and can't change what they say. As for 3, that sounds like something to bring up on Talk:Situationist International. casualdejekyll 12:37, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Casualdejekyll:Thanks, I think that's what I need to know. (I guess I'll think about changing the hatnote, but that's not really the issue.} -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 14:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pete Best Beatles: We can't change search engines, but you can choose to change your behavior. The next time you want to see the Wikipedia article on the the avant-garde arts group the Situationists, go to Wikipedia (not your search engine) and search for "Situationism" or "Situationists". GoingBatty (talk) 14:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

This IP address range has been globally blocked.

I just tried to edit in en wikipedia using my account, but got a message saying there was a global lock on my IP address. "The IP address or range 58.152.200.242 has been globally blocked (disabled) by Green Giant for the following reason(s):"

It only seems to happen when I log in through my WiFi(I am currently logged in through a mobile hotspot, and see no issues editing)

I have never edited as an IP myself(only with my account, and even then, quite rarely).

Can you kindly advice what I should do in this case? I would ideally prefer not to have to always use my mobile internet account when i want to edit. Assassin (talk) 06:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Assassinx.x! it seems like the ip address assigned to your wifi has been hit by an ip block. it doesn't mean you have done anything wrong, don't worry. you can request an exemption to this through the unblock ticket request system. happy editing!  melecie  t - 07:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that comment. I went to the page you linked and hit "Submit an unblock request", however the only options there are "If you have a user account" - Appeal My Block and "If you DO NOT have a user account" - Appeal my IP Block.

In this case, I have an account, but I want to appeal/get an exemption on an IP Block...so neither seems the correct option? Assassin (talk) 07:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Please see meta:Global blocks for more information about these types of blocks. Usally, global IP blocks don't mean that you did something wrong. The (global) user right to edit through a gblocked IP is called "global IP-Block excempt" and can only be assigned by Stewards. You can request it at Steward requests/Global permissions#Requests for global IP block exemption on meta (Global IP Blocks don't affect meta) Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I have made a request at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steward_requests/Global_permissions&diff=prev&oldid=22923860

FYI I had to use my mobile hotspot to create a report at meta. It wouldn't let me create a report with the blocked IP. Assassin (talk) 07:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

(from m:SRGP) That means your IP was also locally blocked at Meta. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 08:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Clarification on edit warring

I had made one revert here, as an editor had removed a "who" notice without making any changes. The concerned editor warned me on my talk page to not edit war, and to start a talk page discussion (He had posted the warning while I was in the process of writing the talk page message). I wanted to know if the revert does count as edit warring. Thanks, Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 08:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

• @CapnJackSp: This edit was the second time Venkat TL removed the {{who}} template. Possibly they thought it had been reinstated by the same editor who put it in the first place.

More generally, the red line for edit-warring is WP:3RR, although reverts at a lower frequency can still qualify. One or two reverts in five days with useful edit summaries (so far) does not qualify in my book. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 10:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Responding to ping. @Tigraan is right in his assumption. The tag was added without any talk page thread elaborating the problem. It was re-added again without starting any talk page thread. Next time start a talk page thread first. Discuss and add the tag only after making clear that the tag is justified. This will prevent future edit war. A single revert without discussing first is indeed edit warring. Please read WP:EDITWAR and WP:BRD for details. Venkat TL (talk) 10:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Venkat, I think you need to re read the message to get what the editor said.Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 10:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

If you want to make it clear that you are edit-warring, leave messages like this edit of 07:41, 3 March 2022, falsely accusing the other editor of leaving misleading edit summaries.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:19, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

There are times when it's best just to forget it and move on. I would normally reckon that Venkat TL was swimming against the tide of consensus by insisting on removing the tag when two separate editors had, independently, reverted it back in. Venkat's edit summary was definitely not correct. But the mistake was innocent, it's easy to assume that the same person has reverted twice. Further, Venkat's removal of the "who" tag is clearly correct. The person is referred to as a disgruntled ex-employee turned whistle-blower, so it's blatantly obvious what role they fulfil and that they're almost certainly anonymous. This description is also supported by the source; there's nothing more to be said. Being accused of edit-warring hurts, but it doesn't have any consequences; no one gets in trouble for being accused, only for being guilty! This is the rich pageant of life... Elemimele (talk) 14:19, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

PICKWOOD MAGAZINE

Please kindly help me check out this article. Does it looks promotional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pickwood_Magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maybreed09 (talk • contribs) 12:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Maybreed09, I do not think the article is promotional, but instead you should be looking at the references. Information on Wikipedia must be backed with independent, reliable sources. It seems as though the article is not backed with reliable sources making it not notable. I suggest reading WP:GNG to see if your article is notable or not. Also there are some minor grammar problems. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

WP:TOOSOON in my opinion. Magazine has been in operation less than three months. David notMD (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Request help removing "biographical" and "extensively edited" tags

 Courtesy link: Gibson C. Armstrong

Dear Wikipedia, The page on myself, Gibson C. Armstrong had "This biographical article is written like a résumé. Please help improve it by revising it to be neutral and encyclopedic" posted at the top. So I removed content that I thought might seem biased and added some sources. Instead of removing the tag, it added another: "This article is an autobiography or has been extensively edited by the subject or by someone connected to the subject. It may need editing to conform to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. There may be relevant discussion on the talk page. (February 2022) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)" I think the content is neutral and, again, I added sources. Could someone therefore remove the tags, or let me know what more I need to do? Thank you for your help. Gib/Gibson Armstrong GibsonArmstrong (talk) 12:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GibsonArmstrong: Welcome to the Teahouse! here is the problem, since the article is about you that is considered COI (conflict of interest) editing. It is highly suggested that you do not edit articles of yourself or someone you know. I suggest following the steps at WP:COIEDIT. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:37, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GibsonArmstrong: Hello Gibson! In addition to the above, since you are the subject of the article (which has been confirmed according to your userpage) it's highly recommended that you don't edit the article directly yourself, but instead request changes be made to the article by submitting an edit request. That way you can still contribute to the encyclopedia while not having any issues with a COI. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GibsonArmstrong: Maybe you could suggest a change to the "Political career" section, which states "Armstrong was elected to the Pennsylvania House of Representatives in 2006, defeating John Barley. When Barley resigned, he was elected in a special election on July 16, 2002." You were elected in 2006, and served until November 30, 2006? It would be better for this section to be in chronological order. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Feedback for my article

Hi everyone, I appreciate your feedback to this article - Communion at Home Should it be a separate page or a section in an existing page and how it can be improved. Thanks for your time and input. Elenatina (talk) 14:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elenatina: I feel as though the article should just go in eucharist, which weirdly the article name for communion, as a separate section. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 15:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elenatina: Agreed. The "Preconditions" section of your draft is unreferenced, and hopefully that is covered in detail in the Eucharist article. GoingBatty (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks! I've added reference to the Preconditions section and also corrected the spelling consistency feedback and added this as a section to the Eucharist article. How do I delete this page? Elenatina (talk) 11:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elenatina: You can nominate the page for deletion, but since it is a draft we usually just change the draft into a redirect to another article. So for your instance draft:communion at home needs to be a redirect page for the section communion at home in the article Eucharist. You can do that by blanking the draft and putting #REDIRECT [[Eucharist#Communion at home]] in it. The # is there so it redirects you into that section, so it basically stands for in the section. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 12:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: Ok, I've copied the text you sent. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elenatina (talk • contribs) 13:03, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit in Visual Editor

I have completed my draft and I now need to add my references. It was rejected due to there being no references. I want to edit the page in Visual Editor. How do I call up my Draft in Visual Editor, as it currently sits in Source Editor? Mysky2blue1 (talk) 14:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mysky2blue1: are you from a mobile device or from the app?

If you are using the app, the Visual Editor is not available. I suggest you scroll down to the very bottom of the page and click on "view on browser" or similar.

Otherwise, if you are not editing from the app, in the top right corner of the source editor, you should see the pencil symbol; by clicking on it you will call up a menu which will permit you to use said editor.

--Llaaww (💬|📝) 15:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mysky2blue1: Welcome to the Teahouse. If you are unable to use the visual editor, ensure that Preferences → Editing → Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta is unchecked. I would suggest changing Editing mode beneath that to Show me both editor tabs, so that when you're at the top of an article, you can click on Edit this page (which is right next to Edit source) to open the visual editor. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mysky2blue1: See also WP:VISUALEDITOR, and if you need help on on how to add references see WP:REFB. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 15:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mysky2blue1: Drafts and articles do not "sit" in the source editor or VisualEditor. The editor you choose depends upon your device and the preferences you set in Wikipedia. In the browser, there are "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs, so you can choose which editor to use for each edit. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Changing inaccurate information with no reference

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § Changing inaccurate information with no reference

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

If some inaccurate information is reported as true and then it can find its way onto Wikipedia and then reported as truth in secondary sources even though it is not the case. How can these be corrected?

For example, a person was announced to be on the board of a certain, however this was never the case. There are no sources to say they have left the board as they never joined it in the first place. The absence of them from the board list on their own website isn't enough to overturn the existing information in Wikipedia. How is is possible to get these types of situations corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occasionalpedestrian (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Occasionalpedestrian This is the talk page for the Teahouse, not the Teahouse itself. Questions should be posted to the main Teahouse page(Wikipedia:Teahouse). That said, if the sources in an article are summarized accurately, but the sources are incorrect, you must either contact those sources directly and request a correction, or offer more current independent reliable sources that have more current information. If the sources are not being summarized accurately, please describe the nature of the corrections needed to more accurately summarize them on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 11:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

My mistake, thanks 331dot this makes more sense now Occasionalpedestrian (talk) 12:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Occasionalpedestrian: If this is a COI edit for another company via the organization that you work for - like the Heineken COI declaration - you need to follow WP:DISCLOSE again for each company. - X201 (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

makimg articles

Hello I need help with making articles and by the way my username is Xephrax. I have attempted getting ideas but everything I can think of already exists. Should i help edit articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xephrax (talk • contribs) 17:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Xephrax Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for your enthusiasm. It's not required that you create new articles- which is extremely challenging without experience and knowledge. Many editors do lots of work here without creating a single new article. There are over 6 million articles to maintain here. Please contribute to those that interest you. You may want to use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 17:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Xephrax, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. I remember when I started editing Wikipedia, I was desperately trying to find something I could make an article on. More than fifteen years later, with 20 thousand edits, I've only ever created about a dozen articles. If you try to create an article before you have understood how Wikipedia works - most particularly, how we require that a subject meet our definition of notable - you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing time. You can add much much much much more value to Wikipedia by making small improvements (especially finding and citing sources) to many existing articles than by trying to create a new article before you are ready. ColinFine (talk) 20:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

My page keeps being declined

Why does my page keep being declined. It is supported by Wikipedia Information. I tried citing it but it appears as a red link Theavengerssalacia (talk) 17:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

The content is already here on Wikipedia at Elizabeth_II#Issue you are welcome to add to it. Theroadislong (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

how to "pipe" the name of a section link?

I am trying to link to a concept described in a section of a longer article. How do you link to a section without using the exact name of the section and the section link symbol? Jaireeodell (talk) 18:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jaireeodell. if I understand you correctly, examples

• [[Wikipedia:Teahouse#how_to_"pipe"_the_name_of_a_section_link?|This thread]] =This thread
• [[Wikipedia:Teahouse#how to "pipe" the name of a section link?|This thread]] =This thread

The first is copypasted from the url. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa SångThanks! That worked. I was overthinking it and using a section link template. Jaireeodell (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

username change

Hello, i was wondering if there was any way to get a new username that doesnt require logging out? i like Xephrax but i want my username to be Slice565. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xephrax (talk • contribs) 18:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Xephrax: Please see WP:CHUS, however, since you only have 4 edits gobally, it might just be better to log off and create a new account with the new username, since changing the name is almost not worth the effort. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Xephrax I agree with what @Victor Schmidt says. Simply forget the username of your current account, never use it again, and simply create a new account with the name of your choice. Far less work for everyone. Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Bulk update of deprecated links

I represent an academic journal publisher that has legacy URLs appearing as external links on at least 80,000 Wikipedia pages. Due to a change in both domain name and URL structure, all of these URLs are now deprecated but the citation is still valid and the content is still available. Most URLs result in a 301 or 302 redirect to the correct page. However, redirects are not a permanent solution and may fail in the future.

The affected pages include the most trafficked and most influential pages on Wikipedia including, for example:

• Artificial intelligence - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
• Africa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa
• Cororonavirus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus
• Internet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
• Vietnam War - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

What is the best way to inventory and update these external links en masse? SibeliusHicks (talk) 20:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, SibeliusHicks. You can request they be updated at WP:URLREQ. ColinFine (talk) 20:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, ColinFine. SibeliusHicks (talk) 23:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Help creating page

I've been studying at berklee college of music for three years, at the end of december my single is on the market and I still can't create my wikipedia page, can you please help me to create my personal wikipedia page? Dilara Ç. Tanır (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Dilara Ç. Tanır, unfortunately it is highley suggest that you do know create an article about your self as that would be considered a conflict of interest (COI). Secondly you would need to be considered notable and have independent, reliable sources covering you to pass the general notability guideline. Im sorry to say, but please do not create an article on yourself. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 21:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Dilara. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Promotion of any kind is forbidden in Wikipedia. If at some point you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then somebody (preferably not you) could create an encyclopaedia article about you. This article would not belong to you, would not be under your control, would not be for your benefit except incidentally, would not necessarily say what you wanted to say, and should be based nearly 100% on what people unconnected with you had published about you in reliable places, not on what you or your associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

No references = no article David notMD (talk) 22:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Resolving "Multiple Issues" on a page when I have a close connection/COI

Hi, I'm in Marketing with Thompson Coburn LLP. We have "multiple issues" flags at the top of our page from years ago when we were less knowledgeable about how to request outside help with edits to our page. We've since shifted to addressing requested edits on the Talk page. Could someone provide me some actionable tips for how to move toward having those those flags removed from our page? Anything else we can do to address/improve those issues? Many thanks! Spencecomms (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Spencecomms Welcome. I have copy-edited the article and removed a load of trivia, uncited material and other content sourced to the company's own press releases. As a result, I think it's OK for me to have also removed the templated messages about "multiple issues" you refer to. I hope this meets your wish to see a properly encyclopaedic and non-promotional article. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Gun

Disregard

 – User indefinitely blocked

Please add Dmam6 to the article list. --RandomGiratto127 (talk) 22:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC) RandomGiratto127 (talk) 22:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

RandomGiratto127 Hello. Could you please clarify your request? Holduptheredawg (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry - user since blocked for disruptive editing. Nothing to see here... Nick Moyes (talk) 23:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I can't log in or create an account

I can't afford to log in or create an account, because it's the password thing. I tried every password I can find, but it does not work. I might stay unregistered forever. Someone help me. 2603:8000:F400:FCEA:6CF5:AACE:D8CC:C5CB (talk) 00:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP! What is the specific issue you're having? Tell us any error messages you're receiving if you can. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:26, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I sent you a welcome notice on your talk page that has a button called create an account if that helps you. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 00:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Inquiry of account usage

Dear Wikipedia users, I would like to get your advice for two pieces of inquiries below.

1. If the several controversial photos registered to Wilkimedia were uploaded by the different accounts, but they are for a specific political purpose, and were uploaded in the same region with the same mobile phone model, can we ask Administrators to investigate whether this is a puppet account?

2. Is there an expiration date for circumstantial evidence of using someone's Puppet account? (I,e, only evidence from within 3 or 5 years ago can be investigated) Goodtiming8871 (talk) 01:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

When you speak of "controversial photos", do you mean that there is a controversy (that several users are arguing over them), or just that they might be controversial? When you say that they're "for a specific political purpose", do you mean that a consensus has determined this, or merely that this has been alleged, or just that they'd be compatible with this purpose? If there genuinely is a controversy, and it's widely believed that the uploads were for a political purpose, then you might proceed. Were the photos first uploaded to Wikipedia, or to Commons? If Wikipedia, then you should go to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations; if Commons, then commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard. Either way, be clear and concise. Evidence from three years previously is unlikely to be of interest. -- Hoary (talk) 02:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear Hoary,

Thank you for your kind and professional response to my inquiries. From my understanding, there was a controversy (that several users are arguing over them). However, the issues were not managed properly concerning other factors Goodtiming8871 (talk) 05:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Goodtiming8871, it's an unfortunate fact about Wikipedia that all sorts of issues aren't handled properly. If there is, now, a controversy over the value of a set of photographs, and if one side in this controversy (e.g. those who uploaded them in the first place) has been pushed by multiple user accounts and you have good reason to believe that these have been created and used to give a false impression that multiple people have the same point of view, then you're welcome to bring up the matter. But please read the explanation and instructions on whichever page of the pair of pages (Wikipedia or Commons) I link to above, make sure that bringing up the problem there would be appropriate (possibly it would be better to propose deletion of the photographs, and there may be other paths besides), and try hard to follow the (perhaps tedious) directions. This isn't just a matter of etiquette: the people you're hoping will take action are likely to be overworked and will be much more likely to click on the links you provide to specifics than they'd be to invest time in trying to find what you seem to be referring to. Good luck! -- Hoary (talk) 06:25, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear Hoary, Thank you for the insight that you have learned over a long period of time. If I request that the photo file to be deleted, and if it is deleted, can I still request an investigation against the user according to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations if necessary? Concerning the allegation of the user, It seems that the user has uploaded the several "controversial photos" using three additional user accounts. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 10:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Goodtiming8871, it seems to me that if the only problematic thing a particular user ID has done is to upload a file, and this file has been deleted, then there's not much point in a sockpuppet investigation. -- Hoary (talk) 12:41, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response Hoary, I am planning to request the review of Sockpuppet accounts issues via Administrators' noticeboard of Commons. As it is more serious problematic thing that the user's other malicious behaviors in other wikipedia spaces. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

How can I start a merge request?

I want to start a merge request for COVID-19 recession and Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. I don't know how to start one though. Thanks! Jishiboka1 (talk) 04:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

For information about merging, see WP:Merging. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Article review

Hi I just adjusted the suggestion about my article how long to get the approval? Thank you 🙏🏻 Aftdo (talk) 05:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Aftdo, a notice at the top of Draft:Tony Garcia (racing driver) tells you: This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. This means what it says. Incidentally, I notice that the draft reads: At the end of his career, Tony had raced more than eighty professional races; but NB for our purposes he's not "Tony" but instead "Garcia". -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Aftdo: I just declined the draft again because of incomplete references. Also, I see you uploaded the photos as your "Own work". Did you take these photos yourself? If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it on your user page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

All five of the images you posted to Commons as your "Own work" are nominated for deletion as suspected copyright violations. Expect those to vanish from the draft. The presence of images improves articles, but arenot a factor in a draft being accepted - that rests of references and notability. David notMD (talk) 16:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Help meeting standards for references

Hi! I prepared a draught submission about a local airline, Draft:Renegade Air, and it was declined for notability. I've since added independent references, and added a few details to the (admittedly sparse) article. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Renegade_Air&diff=1075179685&oldid=1075170470 for the diffs since the rejection.

Is this enough for resubmission? I don't want to waste anyone's time, but I think I've cleared up the problem. Thoughts? Advice? NdotoYaKenya (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@NdotoYaKenya: Any substantial change is enough for resubmission, and you did bring it closer to meeting WP:Notability (transportation)#Airlines. ––FormalDude talk 12:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Add Drafts to WP:FOSS Core tasks

I want to have the AfC cases in our domain FOSS listed on our WikiProject page. I already did some tinkering and I think I was able to add AfC under Article alerts. But the row Drafts is still missing under the section core tasks. Can someone show me where I have to change something to add it?

Furthermore: It seems like not all AfCs are listed. Where I can set up what articles should show up in our feeds? I'm a bit confused between the {{portal |Free and open-source software}} template and {{wikiProject Computing |class=Start |importance= |free-software=yes |free-software-importance=Low}} template from the talk page. Are there any other ways to associate something to our space? How do they differ?

Also I don't know how to cite templates without triggering them. I tried the Help:Colon_trick GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 10:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I can't help with the first questions, but I can answer the last: Either use normal Wikilink syntax (eg Template:ping) or us the {{tl}} family of templates to cite other templates (eg {{tl|ping}} displays as {{ping}}. --ColinFine (talk) 11:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! It worked and I implemented the change in my post thanks to your advice! GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 12:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello again, GavrillaDmitriev. Im not an expert on this, but I can at least see wht you're trying to do now! Portals are a facility for Wikipedia readers, and shouldn't point to drafts at all, only to accepted articles; so the {{portal}} template should never go on an AFC draft, as far as I can see. I think what you want is {{WikiProject Computing}}, as you say. ColinFine (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I understand now that the Portal template is just for reader and that we don't do any grouping/sorting/assignment with it besides that might affect the portal landing page.

Your comment helped me once again. You are great in adding partial help while stating that you are not an expert :) GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 19:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

How to improve article to get accepted?

Hi, I am start to contributing Wikipedia and my first article about a film producer (Draft:Parisa Zehtabian) which her data is available on imdb.com but my referenced data was declined. How can I improve my article to pass review? Jirayeni (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jirayeni: In order for the article to meet notability guidelines (WP:PRODUCER), it needs sources that are independent, reliable, and significant. IMDB is not a reliable source. The subject's own website is not an independent source. ––FormalDude talk 11:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@FormalDude: Thanks to your response. Is websites like filmfreeway ok? https://filmfreeway.com/899101 and also there are some certifications of film registration to international festivals is it good idea to use these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirayeni (talk • contribs) 08:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jirayeni: FilmFreeway is a website for filmmakers to submit their films to film festivals, so it's not independent. The page also does not provide significant coverage of Zehtabian. GoingBatty (talk) 16:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: This page is refers one of Zehtabian films. The credits tab contains information about all people involve film production. in this tab you see Zehtabian as producer. Also this is this document (https://parisazehtabian.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Seyyed-1-1920x2485.jpg) reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirayeni (talk • contribs) 17:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jirayeni: The fact that the document is on Zehtabian's web site doesn't help, and it's not significant coverage. Anyone could watch the credits of each film and confirm Zehtabian's role in the film, so that's not the issue. Please find multiple independent reliable published sources that provide significant coverage of her work. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Can I use non-english news agencies news'?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirayeni (talk • contribs)

sure, provided they meet the requirements... Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft: About the climate of Fukushima City

I wrote a Draft:Climate of Fukushima City. But my English is limited, and it is cumbersome to look up climate-related information, and this article needs your assistance, thank you! Albert Tachibaña (talk) 12:02, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Albert Tachibaña, I'm puzzled by the need for such an article. Much of its content can be inferred from the regular climate table. I realize that there's an article Climate of Los Angeles; but LA is far larger and more populous than Fukushima, and its climate is widely commented on: I seem to remember reading non-technical yet perceptive commentary by Joan Didion and Reyner Banham. The climates of certain less-than-enormous cities in Japan are commented on: Kumagaya is among them. Is Fukushima too? -- Hoary (talk) 12:53, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

There is no need whatsoever for this article because all of it was copied from the Climate subsection of Fukushima (city). I recommend that you request your draft be deleted and that you continue to work on improving the existing article. David notMD (talk) 13:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Furthermore, in the future, if you do copy content from one Wikipedia article to add to or create another article, it is required that in the Edit summary that you attribute which article the content came from. Otherwise, what you did is considered plagiarism. David notMD (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

(And a copyright violation, which is very serious) {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 14:09, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

To elaborate on this, I think the reason it would technically be a copyright violation is that all content on Wikipedia is copyrighted by the editors of the site as a body, and is licensed for use under CC Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0. While copy-pasting content into another place on Wikipedia satisfies the 'ShareAlike' part, it violates the 'Attribution' part unless sufficient attribution is given (which hasn't happened here). — JThistle38 (talk) 14:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Correction: not copyrighted by the editors of the site as a body - each contribution is individually copyrighted by the editor who made it. casualdejekyll 16:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Am I in "community good standing"?

Hello. Just recently, I self-requested a block, only for it to be lifted ~6 hours later.

However, I have this question: is "community good standing" mean no behavioral blocks/bans in the past 6 months, or no blocks/bans regardless of whether or not it was self-requested?

Also, to add to its complexity, I do have a complex unblock discussion at my talk page here. Use that to give you a better answer.

Now, I ask you: Do you think I'm in "community good standing"? — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:39, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

A lot of people screw up with tools from time to time. You already have the rollback permissions back, so that's a good sign that community good standing is something you're in. casualdejekyll 17:02, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't think you have to worry about self requested blocks. For the purposes of any discussion the fact it was self-requested would be noted. Rlink2 (talk) 19:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Temperature Converter (Bot?)

Some too-clever-by-half editors have been going through and applying the {convert} function to all instances of temperature. While I appreciate the spirit and it is often helpful to have °F temps next to the °C, when it's done indiscriminately it can cause problems: I was on the page for Pikas the other day, and saw a sentence that went "For every change of 1°C (34°F) in average temperature..."

Which is obviously not right. I changed that instance and left a note on the responsible editor's talk page, but it's the second time I've seen such a thing and I assume it's a widespread issue.

Can someone who's more deft with coding than I am find a way to pull all instances where, e.g. "difference" or "change" appears within 5 words of a {convert}, to allow us to manually review such instances (and hopefully identify any convert-bots that have gone rogue?) WhichDoctor (talk) 17:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

This actually seems like a good idea; I wouldn't be surprised that this happens a lot. But @WhichDoctor:, just a quick note you left that message on their user page, not their talk page... --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Ohp! My mistake, thanks for the catch. Will go correct that when I have a minute. WhichDoctor (talk) 17:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@WhichDoctor: I looked through difference of \{\{convert and change of \{\{convert, and found only one article to change, which I did in this edit.

Nothing to change in difference of [A-Za-z]+ \{\{convert and change of [A-Za-z]+ \{\{convert GoingBatty (talk) 18:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC

Brilliant, thanks! What's going on with the the [A-Za-z] notation, and where can I learn more about that kind of thing? WhichDoctor (talk) 18:24, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@WhichDoctor: From the search bar, I performed a few insource searches with regular expressions, where [A-Za-z] means any letter and + means one or more characters. (e.g. "difference insource:/difference of [A-Za-z]+ \{\{convert/"). See Help:Searching#insource: and WP:Regex for more information. GoingBatty (talk) 18:41, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thank you! WhichDoctor (talk) 18:57, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

This kind of syntax (/difference of [A-Za-z]+/) is called a regular expression (or "regex"). Programmers use them to search for complicated patterns in text. In simple terms, the expression means "match an uninterrupted string of characters consisting of letters A to Z, uppercase or lowercase". In other words, match a single word. Therefore, GoingBatty's searches would find instances where an editor had written, for example, difference of roughly 10 °C (50 °F), difference of about 3.2 °C (37.8 °F), and difference of fhqwhgads 3.2 °C (37.8 °F), et cetera. Help:Searching/Regex provides an in-depth (though not very accessible) guide to searching Wikipedia using regex. You might find a more helpful explanation by searching the web for articles like /Learn Regex in [0-9]+ Minutes/. Hope this helps! RoxySaunders (talk · contribs) 19:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

You have to be careful, however, because the Wikipedia search bar doesn't allow you to search using all regex, like \s for a space/newline or \b for a word boundary. GoingBatty (talk) 20:37, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Knight Skywalker

Is there any way to make the images, side by side, instead of vertical?

While replying editors use this :: but sometimes they add * before : why?

I saw once that when too many replies are given instead of adding too many :::::, some people add some format, so that it appears as an arrow mark. How is that done? Knight Skywalker (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Knight Skywalker: I think you're referring to Template:Outdent, which wraps text that gets too long. Also, the * creates a bullet. You see this in the articles for deletion discussions. Also, for the images, see the {{multiple image}} template. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Userbox

How do I make it so that my userbox appears normally on desktop as it fills the whole page and it's so huge. User:Pizzaplayer219/Userboxes/PS5 THE Pizzaplayer!^{TALK TO MEE!!} _contribs 18:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pizzaplayer219: Welcome to the Teahouse! Template:Userbox#Usage states that "image size should normally not exceed 90x45px", so I reduced the size of the image in this edit. The link text on a black background is very hard to read. When you're done with the userbox, you might want to add it to Wikipedia:Userboxes/Games/Video games/Platforms so others can find it. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Advice on dealing with overly-referenced and detailed article

I was looking at the list of articles with the most references and came across History of the Jews in Kingston upon Hull. It surprised me that such a regional topic would have more than 1000 references, so I decided to take a look at the article. I'm still pretty new to editing WP, so please correct me if I'm mistaken, but it seems to me that this article is, on the whole, an extreme case of WP:OVERCITE. For one particular example, take the section Charities and clubs. One utterly non-controversial sentence has 15 references to back it up.

That's all more or less easy enough to deal with, but my larger concern has to do with the level of detail in the article (WP:BLOATED). I'm Jewish, I understand the importance of making our history known, but this feels gratuitous. Upon further inspection, I also found History of the Jews in Leeds#Notable_people, which has also been turned into a list of possibly-notable Jews, and now has more than 1000 references as well. I'm concerned this problem could extend to other articles, and I'm not really sure how to proceed. Deleting huge sections of each article is likely what is called for here, but that feels both extremely radical and punishing to the well-meaning editor who has invested considerable time into expanding both articles significantly. Any advice? Maybe the articles could each be split into History of the Jews in X and List of Jews from X? Other suggestions? More generally, how should I bring this up with the editor involved?

Thanks, Lkb335 (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Lkb335- One would be to discuss with Philip Sugarman, the editors whose virtually entire history is the Leeds and Kingston Hull articles. Two, yes there is massive over-citing and a generally bloated article that makes no attempt to curate information. As it stands, I'd be amazed if any reader has bothered to read more than a few lines because I found it impossible to do more than skim with all the blue distractions.Slywriter (talk) 19:33, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi. I note your discussion. Early on in the development on Hull there was a sharp debate, which was referred by an experienced editor up to a "grandmaster" editor. The advice was given was that there was no limit to the length of the article, as long as everything was referenced. I took this to be in good faith. I hope you will feel that the articles are well-written and researched. The Hull one starts with more general and brief sections designed to more than meet the needs of most readers, the full article is designed to a fill the gap as there is nothing like it on line for this particular niche. For the Leeds history, I have kept this much shorter as there is good coverage elsewhere, but expanded the notable people list as, again, there is nothing else in that niche. In the rare instance that is highlighted of an expanded list of references, on hull charities, I could not find a neater way to reference evidence of my assertion than links to historic newspaper articles. The detail is there for those who want it, I don't expect most readers to do more than skim or search the article. I have put in 1000's of hours to make this info widely available to others, to me it would feel like vandalism to start erasing chunks. As it happens I have a little more to add to the Leeds history and then I am finished with substantial input to wikipedia. Hope this helps. Philip Sugarman (talk) 20:24, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Philip Sugarman, 1000s of hours isn't an excuse to WP:OVERCITE. There is no reason for 15 citations to support one line. Either there is relevant information in those citations to be used or they should be culled. And while it may feel like "vandalism", I would not use that term again as its connotation on Wiki is very specific and no one WP:OWNS an article. I'd suggest taking a hard look at the citations used and see which can be removed, otherwise someone from the community is likely to do it. Also you may want to consider whether this should be multiple articles as WP:PAGESIZE is a thing and could be time to split, rather than having all the work on one page.Slywriter (talk) 21:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Philip, what would you think about splitting each article into a history article and a list? For what the lists would look like, see List of Jews in sports.

Thanks, Lkb335 (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I’m having trouble deleting templates in reading 2102 Union Pacific 4466 and Union Pacific 3985 can you please delete them for me please

I’m having trouble deleting templates on Reading 2102 Union Pacific 4466 Union Pacific 3985 can you please delete templates for me please 70.189.24.158 (talk) 19:25, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Your edits to Reading 2102, Union Pacific 4466 and Union Pacific 3985 have repeatedly been reverted, including your template removals, and you have been cautioned on your Talk page. The proper place to make a case for removal of template is on the Talk pages of the articles in question, not here, to Teahouse hosts unfamiliar with train articles. David notMD (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Splitting an article

Re: Situationism and disambiguation above, I'm going to follow the advice and move to the Situationist International talk page. After consideration, I think I'm going to suggest taking sections from that article (Main Concepts, Political Theory, and Reception) and creating a new article entitled "Situationism." This is new territory for me, but I know the ensuing discussion will entail using some data. I can count Google hits for terms, but I'm not sure that proves anything here. How do I find out how many searches have been done on specific terms? Is there other information useful for such a discussion? And are there any help pages about article splitting? Pete Best Beatles (talk) 21:03, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Pete Best Beatles. See WP:Splitting. ColinFine (talk) 22:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

User page

I've only been a Wikipedia editor for a few months. Still a novice. I was just wondering why my username still shows up red with no userpage, only a talk page. How does one actually go about getting their own userpage, or is it something that has to be requested? 🤔 I feel like a ghost! 👻👻👻 PetSematary182 (talk) 21:29, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@PetSematary182: Click on the red link, and it will redirect you to the page editor, and from there you can write it like any other page. You may want to write a bit about yourself, add some fun userboxes, maybe show off your awards if you have any. I think this page may be of help. Hope this helps! QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 21:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

PetSematary182 an easy way to do it is this: First, search "User:PetSematary182" (and EXACTLY that) in the search bar. Then, a message will show up, saying "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name" and so on, then click "edit" and you can go on from there. Another way to do it is to search your talk page, in this case, "User talk:PetSematary182" in the search bar, and then click on the "User Page" tab, and the editor will automatically open. Once you have text in your user page, your user page link will appear blue. You can change your signature in Preferences (Like me :D), although I can't explain that right now because it's a long and complicated process. Anyway, I hope you have found this helpful. Sincerely, CertifiedAmazing2 wanna chat? 21:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the help, CertifiedAmazing2 and QuickQuokka! PetSematary182 (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182

Moving a draft

Hello,

I think the draft Draft:Tukhlia (Ukraine) should be moved to Draft:Tukhlia. The parenthetical disambiguation is not needed since there is no other article with that title.

(What I'm less sure about is whether "Tukhlya" or "Tukhlia" should be preferred. The version with ya has more hits in English on Google, but the ia version has considerable usage too (including in some of the Ukrainian government's English texts). The Ukrainian National romanization system says я => ia when not in word-initial contexts, so I'm inclined to favor that, but I have no strong opinion.) 70.172.194.25 (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The exact title of a draft is not vitally important to the submission process. You may leave a note for reviewers on the draft talk page regarding the title; if the draft is accepted, the reviewer will place it at the proper title. 331dot (talk) 21:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree with the title being better without the dab, and moved it. Thanks for the heads up. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Can someone help me replace some images?

I vectorized File:That Poppy Signature.png into File:That Poppy Signature.svg.

I want to replace all instances of the former, with the latter, but I cannot do so currently.

Can someone do it for me, if it is not a problem? QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 21:41, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, QuickQuokka. I'm not sure what your problem is. File:That Poppy Signature.png shows all pages that use the image - it only lists one page on en-wiki, Poppy (entertainer), but there are a dozen pages on other wikis that use it. I don't think there is any way to rplace them without going into each one to edit it (though I may be wrong). ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I didn't mean all at once, I was just busy at that time. Now I can do it myself :) QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 09:10, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Article reports conflicting (unsourced) information but I can only find non-conflicting sources.

(Sorry. Not sure if this is better suited for the article's Talk page, but I'm also asking generally.)

I'm working on getting sources for Robert Kinoshita's article. He made Robbie the Robot, and the article currently says Robby was "Created at a cost of anywhere between $125,000 and $1,000,000 — depending on which source is quoted ". Every source I've found has been in the $100k-$150 "reported"/"estimated" range. Nowhere near $1 million unless we're talking about inflation. Would it be better to remove the "and $1,000,000 — depending on which source is quoted" and just have the $100k-$150 range with multiple sources?

In situations where an article claims a wide range for something, but I can only find sources for something very different, what should I do? There may be actual sources with the extreme/outside values that I just haven't been able to fine, so I don't feel like I should remove it entirely. But it seems odd to me if I leave it with the sources giving a very limited range.

Not sure what I should do. Rourensu (talk) 22:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Rourensu: I'd remove it, with an edit-summary explaining you can't find a source to justify a cost that high. If anyone knows one, they can put it back in, this time with the source. If you're feeling really timid or worried that your search may not have been sufficiently exhaustive, then by all means play it safe and put a message on the article's talk-page first, or a citation-needed tag, and wait a few days before zapping the offending information. But ultimately there is no place for material supported only by the vague feeling that there ought to be a source somewhere if only we could find it. Elemimele (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elemimele: Alright. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rourensu (talk • contribs) 16:02, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Please help me with the reference using Google Books

I would like to display page 8 (1.2. Cauchy–Riemann equations), but the displayed page is the Roman numeral "x". thanks !

link (ref 1): Function of several complex variables#Top

display:Ohsawa, Takeo (2002). Analysis of Several Complex Variables. ISBN 978-1-4704-4636-9.

code: {{cite book |isbn=978-1-4704-4636-9|title=Analysis of Several Complex Variables|last1=Ohsawa|first1=Takeo|year=2002|url={{Google books|IXhoWbo1oCkC|title=Analysis of Several Complex Variables|page=8|plainurl=yes}}}} SilverMatsu (talk) 01:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Help with adding Citations

I'm currently adding citations to the Letitia James article. I was searching for a citation for this specific quote: "In the 2013 election campaign for Public Advocate, James was endorsed by many of the city's important labor unions, NOW, Planned Parenthood, Democracy for NYC, League of Conservation Voters, Amsterdam News and El Diario." and I found an old 2013 article on the electoral campaign for Public Advocate. However, the source is the Daily Kos, a left-wing news/blog website that does not have the best track record with trustworthiness. Should I use this source even if it might be heavily biased? Thanks. :D ShiriEdits (talk) 01:06, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@ShiriEdits: Your instincts are correct. The reliable sources noticeboard recommends against using Daily Kos at all. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Daily Kos. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

IAbot inserting bad wayback links

I do not precisely follow the operational details of IAbot (I have no personal experience with bots whatsoever), but I noticed in the 4 March 2022 revision of Sexual intercourse that archive links for Google Books were added, even though such archive links generally do not seem to provide useful content, or at least don't provide the expected content. In some circumstances, they produce an error message, or they may produce a web page that doesn't render the book content that was present in the original link.

Either way, it seems like a bad idea to incorporate these dysfunctional archive links into Wikipedia. Does this indicate that IAbot was configured incorrectly, or does logic need to be incorporated into IAbot to bypass archives for certain kinds of links? Fabrickator (talk) 01:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fabrickator: Hello Fabrickator! Yes logic does need to be used when using IAB. I know there's some way to fix these but I'm not able to find it at the moment. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fabrickator: Welcome to the Teahouse! Are you looking for {{cbignore}}? GoingBatty (talk) 04:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I thought they had fixed this. I think archive.org stopped archiving new Google Books URLs, but the bot may place links to old Google Books URLs. You can always file a bug at Phab. Rlink2 (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Finding pages that cites a certain website

I've noticed that this article cites the BBC live news for Europe/Ukraine. When it was added by another user, it was not archived. As newer news were published, the relevant piece was pushed to older pages. web.archive.org is not working for the BBC live news. Despite archiving several snapshots, they return an internal error. I could archive it using archive.today, and that reference is fixed.

However, i think other articles about the Russian invasion of Ukraine might also use that page as a reference, and they are probably not pointing to the correct page. Another problem is that the live page only shows a limited number of articles, and it seems that everything older than 27 February is lost. Because of that, i would like to know if it is possible to search for all the articles that use a certain url (a bbc live news) as a reference to properly archive them. Is it possible, or do i have to manually look at every page? Ridanbp (talk) 01:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ridanbp: How about going to the Wikipedia search page and enteing a query like insource:"www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe" ... where "insource" means you are searching on the Wikitext and not on the visible content, which you need to do since the urls typically aren't included in the rendered content. Experimenting with this is probably the best way to understand the idiosyncrasies of how it works (e.g. how word boundaries affect results). Fabrickator (talk) 02:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. the insource: worked. I tried the advanced options, and since it didn't work, i thought it might not be possible. Ridanbp (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Texas Lane's new article

I'm just trying to make an article but it keeps getting deleted. Texas Lane (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey, Texas Lane! It seems the article is being deleted as it's very short and doesn't show why it's notable enough for inclusion here. This doesn't have anything to do with laws as you mentioned on your talk page, but rather concerns our guidelines for what actually belongs here. {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 03:55, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Sample:

Sides include Popcorn Chicken, Popcorn Shrimp, Crinkle Cut Fries, Waffle Cut Fries, Onion Tanglers, Mac'n Cheese, Applesauce, Texas Toast, Coleslaw, Cottage Cheese and Mashed Potatoes (with or without Butter).

Wikipedia is not a trade directory, Texas Lane. Please do not attempt to re-create this stuff in Wikipedia. Spoon Diner can put this material on its own website. -- Hoary (talk) 04:16, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Consider creating a draft first, and do listen to the raised comments. Dege31 (talk) 13:49, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hoary, Then tell me, how come there are so many OTHER articles that DO say things like that? I've seen several other articles that literally say Menu or Products, so anotherwards this stuff has just became pretty confusing... Texas Lane (talk) , 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what exactly this is about, but read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Even if you see it elsewhere, it might not be appropriate. Dege31 (talk) 16:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Other languages on Wikipedia

Please advise me whether there is a super admin for other languages on Wikipedia. If there is an unfair treatments by other Korean language admins to the users: i,e,) Concerning clear circumstantial evidence or , obvious violation of the rules on Wikipedia, it was generally disregarded if it happens to the specific users, however other users were blocked although it was quite vague circumstantial evidence. How the user can get some review for the biased administrative actions? Goodtiming8871 (talk) 06:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Goodtiming8871. Each language version of Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines. If you are having difficulties on the Korean Wikipedia, then you will need to address those issues there. English Wikipedia editors and administrators have zero influence there, unless they are active contributors to that project. And very few of us are active there. Cullen328 (talk) 06:22, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Cullen328, Thank you for your kind response. In my view, English Wikipedia is the root of other languages of Wikipedia. Please kindly advise me my two inquiries when you are convenient. 1. Would you please kindly advise me the link in English Wikipedia if the user feels the administrators uses the biased administrative actions?

After reading the policies or reviewing opportunities about biased administrative actions in English Wikipedia, I can provide Korean administrators with my input. 2. If there are very few of English Wikipedia administrators who are involved in Korean Wikipedia, please kindly provide me with the user ID(s): preferably non native Korean speakers as per NPOV concerning the political agenda in South Korea. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 10:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Goodtiming8871: as Cullen has explained to you, nothing in English Wikipedia has any authority in another Wikipedia. English Wikipedia is the root of other languages of Wikipedia is true historically, but not for any current purpose. Your request is akin to saying "I have a problem with the Korean authorities: please tell me who in the British Government I should talk to". You might well find somebody who can speak Korean, but they will have zero authority in Korea. ColinFine (talk) 11:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Goodtiming8871, traditionally the place to report systemic issues is Meta-wiki (Swedish and Croatian wikis are recent examples). Be prepared for a long process with counter-accusations. In the future, UCoC Enforcement and U4C may be an option. WMF/T&S did intervene with a conflict among Chinese and Hong Kong users, but in that case there were affiliates involved. For Korean-speakers here who might be willing to get involved, have you tried asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea? ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 20:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

little advice

hey can someone please tell me if The Tribune is Reliable source or Not? Akb bhatia (talk) 07:32, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Akb bhatia, hi! I suppose you're talking about The Tribune (Chandigarh)? Yes, they are a generally reliable source. Although, be cautious too, as RS are not always reliable all the time. GeraldWL 07:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

AWB editing

Finally thought to ask a question at the Teahouse after many days. I have been using AWB for many days now. What I mostly do is fix new pages, using the source as new pages and then making out a list. But, AWB is supposed to be a much powerful tool. Actually the problem is with me. I cannot fully unleash the power of this super piece of software. I have read the manual of AWB, but it is just a detailed explanation of how to use it. The manual mainly contains information about all the different toolbars and options. But recently I have found out about the typo fixing feature, and have started using it well. But I want to know, what else I can do with this. I know many things can be done, and many people know what more can actually be done. I am under the mentorship of FormalDude, but he said that he doesn't have much knowledge about AWB. So I thought to ask the question at the Teahouse, to get information about AWB from multiple users. I would really be glad if some AWB expert user tells me what else I can do with this tool. Regards.

Note: Anyone answering this question (or trying to answer) can see my contributions to see what type of AWB edits I am making presently, to give me more new ideas. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 09:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: This is probably a question best asked at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser. Your question is a bit like someone asking how to unleash the full power of an MS Access database, without knowing what tasks they wish to perform with it. That should be your first thing to identify, and then to decide if AWB is the best tool for the job. A multi-tool is a wonderful device, but no good if you want to hammer a nail into a piece of wood. I used AWB quite a lot a few years ago, but was (and still am) rather scared by the many areas I do not understand how to use, so I stay well-clear and you should too. If you do serious harm with it, you could be blocked from editing, so proceed with care. Looking at your edits with it, you seem to be using it as I did. If I remember rightly, I created a list of articles within a certain group or category, and attempted to fix all the typos and grammar errors within each one. I then focussed on fixing just one specific typo or grammatical issue (doesnt -> doesn't; 1960's -> 1960s; off of -> off, for example) across all articles. At that time, Lupin's spellchecker was working, and I used that to monitor live edits and then fixed errors particularly frequently-occurring typos with AWB that I first saw being flagged up by Lupin.

Bottom line: If you don't know what you're doing with elements of AWB, and can't find out how to do it properly - don't do it. Good luck with your journey. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse

What is teahouse for? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:4E:8B1C:8D65:FA35 (talk) 10:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

A friendly place where you can ask questions to get help with using and editing Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 10:32, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

A sort of friendly place. At times, editors find that asking a simple question at Teahouse acts as an unintended invitation for experienced editors to look at all of their article contributions. David notMD (talk) 11:42, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Creating an article i am having troubles creating one

I am having troubles creating an article  Newzlighter (talk) 13:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Newzlighter, virtually everyone has troubles creating a draft (let alone an article), if they don't already have experience in improving and augmenting existing articles. So I suggest that you try your hand at the latter. (Always base your contributions on reliable sources, and always cite these clearly.) -- Hoary (talk) 13:26, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Newzlighter, welcome to the Teahouse! Writing a WP-article that isn't quickly deleted is difficult if you have no experience in how to edit and what is demanded per WP:s rules (there are quite a lot.) WP:TUTORIAL is a good place to start. On how to start an article, pick a topic that meets the demands here: WP:GNG, otherwise you are wasting you're time. Then move on to Help:Your first article. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Are these sources reliable?

-- Karsan Chanda (talk) 14:15, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Reliable for what purpose, Karsan Chanda? For the theory of managing tourism, maybe (though it's written in something which is almost, but not quite, English); but I'm dubious that it is reliable for historical information about tourists sites. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

References

Karsan Chanda that's a difficult question to answer. The book is published by IGI Global, and since I'd never heard of that company I did a little research and found conflicting opinions on whether or not it was a reputable publisher. I would say that if you had several other good references it would be acceptable to include the book you linked as one of many references. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Karenthewriter It is written in this book that Amber fort was built by Meena dynasty. So is this source valid? -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 16:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I would say, no. The authors of the book are (presumably) experts in tourism. There is no reason to think that they are reliable as historians. Why don't you consult a work by a historian for information about the Amber fort? Maproom (talk) 17:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Karsan Chanda I have no knowledge of Amber fort, or who built it. You cited a published book, and I didn't even read what the book said. I just looked at the publisher, and saw there were different opinions about whether this is a reputable publisher or not. So I can't say if anyone at the publishing company checks facts before agreeing to print a book. Your first article has a Gathering References section that stresses the importance of using reliable sources, and I was unable to find out if IGI Global was considered a reliable publisher. I would advise you to find a backup source for which dynasty built Amber fort, in case it is deemed IGI Global books are not considered reliable. Karenthewriter (talk) 17:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

There are other fellows who want to express their opinion on this draft. So please do give your opinion. -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 18:33, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Karsan Chandra, you appear to have spent weeks trying to find a single reliable source for this article. My opinion (without looking at the draft again) is that if you haven't found a source by now, you're not going to, and you should give up on this draft. ColinFine (talk) 19:53, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

In my opinion a touring guide is not a reliable source. David notMD (talk) 20:19, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Making a template

Header added by ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I make a template? (Btw, I use Wikipedia on my phone) Texas Lane (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Texas Lane. Please see Help:A quick guide to templates. (and please add a section header when you're started a new section on a talk or dicussion page). ColinFine (talk) 16:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

what is the annual revenue of SimpleTire, llc

 71.223.187.87 (talk) 17:06, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello User with the IP adress 71.223.187.87 and welcome to the Teahouse. This place is for asking questions about how to use and/or edit Wikipedia. General knowlegde questions can be asked at the reference desk. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

creating user boxes

hello!! i wanna create my own user boxes but i'm confused and i really don't know how to start. can you please give me pages to check that can help me out with this matter? thank you in advance :)

 Sanarghzl (talk) 19:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Of course. Take a look at Template:Userbox, and it should explain the process for you. Make sure to create a subpage to put it on. ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 20:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Writing

How do I create an article? ObnoxiousNox (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@ObnoxiousNox

See Help:Your_first_article Rlink2 (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)