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If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

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* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 02:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 56 open requests (refresh).

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

Category:Internet fax to Category:Email – C2F. ^SMason_Garrison 02:29, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:WrestleDream to Category:AEW WrestleDream – C2D, C2E. Sceptre (talk) 16:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Deputy Presidents of the Moldovan Parliament to Category:Deputy presidents of the Moldovan Parliament – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Christian Association of Nigeria Presidents to Category:Christian Association of Nigeria presidents – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Directors and Presidents of the Art Gallery of New South Wales to Category:Directors and presidents of the Art Gallery of New South Wales – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Pakistan Cricket Board Presidents and Chairmen to Category:Pakistan Cricket Board presidents and chairmen – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Chairmen and Presidents of UNICEF to Category:Chairmen and presidents of UNICEF – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Rotating Presidents of the Council for Coordinating the Reforms Front to Category:Rotating presidents of the Council for Coordinating the Reforms Front – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:25, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Lost (2004 TV series) to Category:Lost (TV series) – C2D: parent article was moved a few months ago via a successful move request grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 13:10, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bharatiya Janata Party scandals to Category:Bharatiya Janata Party controversies – C2E: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 22#Category:Bharatiya Janata Party scandals. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:LGBTQ men artists to Category:LGBTQ male artists – C2A: Correct grammar, and matches the parent categories Category:Male artists and Category:LGBTQ artists. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Plath-Hughes family to Category:Plath–Hughes family – C2A: We use an en-dash when families are not hyphenated but rather two surnames joined by family relationship. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:MacArthur family (Chicago, Illinois) to Category:MacArthur family (Chicago) – C2D: Per Chicago. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Australian indigenous rights activists to Category:Australian Indigenous rights activists – C2B: Siblings in Indigenous rights activists by nationality are all "Indigenous" ^SMason_Garrison 02:40, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Yorck von Wartenburg to Category:Yorck von Wartenburg family – C2C: Per all other family categories in Category:German noble families. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:31, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Van Heemstra (family) to Category:Van Heemstra family – C2C: Per all other families in Category:Dutch noble families. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Van Hogendorp (family) to Category:Van Hogendorp family
Category:Goblet d'Alviella to Category:Goblet d'Alviella family – C2D: Per Goblet d'Alviella family. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Nuclear weapons programme of Sweden to Category:Nuclear weapons program of Sweden – C2A following WP:ENGVAR spelling in Swedish nuclear weapons program, but keeping word order as C2C within Category:Nuclear weapons programs by country. – Fayenatic London 21:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Nuclear weapons programme of Russia to Category:Nuclear weapons program of Russia – the spelling "program" is used in Russia and weapons of mass destruction
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC templates to Category:Al Hilal SFC templates – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC seasons to Category:Al Hilal SFC seasons – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC presidents to Category:Al Hilal SFC presidents – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC players to Category:Al Hilal SFC players – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC non-playing staff to Category:Al Hilal SFC non-playing staff – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC matches to Category:Al Hilal SFC matches – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC managers to Category:Al Hilal SFC managers – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Al-Hilal Saudi FC to Category:Al Hilal SFC – C2D: Corresponding article has been moved back to Al Hilal SFC. GTrang (talk) 17:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:JKS 1909 Jarosław players to Category:JKS Jarosław players – C2D (JKS Jarosław). KibolLP (talk) 17:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:18th-century in Lisbon to Category:18th century in Lisbon – C2A. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Leeds College of Music to Category:Leeds Conservatoire – C2D (Leeds Conservatoire) Graham87 (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Academics of Leeds College of Music to Category:Academics of Leeds Conservatoire – as above Graham87 (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Alumni of Leeds College of Music to Category:Alumni of Leeds Conservatoire – as above Graham87 (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Demolished buildings and structures in the London borough of Enfield to Category:Demolished buildings and structures in the London Borough of Enfield – C2A London Borough of Enfield and C2C – T C Memoire 08:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway to Category:Union between Sweden and Norway – C2D: Union between Sweden and Norway Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Treaties of the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway to Category:Treaties of the Union between Sweden and Norway

Category:Auburn, Alabama politicians to Category:Politicians from Auburn, Alabama – C2C and C2E Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:00, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose changes scope. Category is entirely politicians who have held office in Auburn, Alabama (mayors, councilmen, president of city council), not politicians from there. Jahaza (talk) 01:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Are there similar categories for other cities that are named this way? Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Roman royalty to Category:Ancient Roman royalty – C2C: Ancient Romans by occupation is the parent ^SMason_Garrison 02:21, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This category has as a dependent category Byzantine Emperors down to the 15th century. Jahaza (talk) 20:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That subcategory should be removed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  ok... Why? Roman emperors are clearly in scope for "Roman royalty"? Jahaza (talk) 06:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  We generally do not have "Roman" categories on top of "Ancient Roman" and "Byzantine". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Countries and territories where Serbo-Croatian is an official language to Category:Countries and territories where Serbo-Croatian was an official language – C2A, item 3; Serbo-Croatian hasn't been used as official language in any political entity for quite some time (see also: Serbo-Croatian#Legal status). Looks like an obvious grammar error ("is" instead of "was"). – Aca (talk) 01:24, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aca: this conflicts with C2C, so it can't be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Mhm, agreed. Please do move to full discussion, if it works with your schedule. :) – Aca (talk) 16:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not convinced that a disambiguator is unnecessary. However a different form of disambiguation, namely Category:Public Research Organisations (New Zealand), would bring it more in line with the main article. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it would be better to delete the category and merge to Category:Research institutes in New Zealand. If the category is kept, it will at most contain 4 articles plus 1 eponymous one, only 2 of which currently exist. Gjs238 (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merging would be fine with me, but that is not for speedy either. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:42, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_May_26#Category:Public_Research_Organisations_in_New_Zealand. Gjs238 (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Telenovelas about spiritism to Category:Telenovelas about Spiritism – C2C within Category:Spiritism – Fayenatic London 09:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Category:Spiritism is only capitalized because it's the beginning of the category name. The name "spiritism" itself is not proper. See the name of the article Kardecist spiritism for example. Jahaza (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Fayenatic london and Jahaza: shouldn't it become Category:Kardecist spiritism as a matter of C2D? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Since this is opposed, a full discussion is needed along with Category:Spiritism and Category:Films about Spiritism. – Fayenatic London 21:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Now at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_May_17#Category:Spiritism. – Fayenatic London 13:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Current discussions

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WP:CFDC

June 24

NEW NOMINATIONS

June 23

Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine films

Propose merging Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine films to Category:Russo-Ukrainian War films

Nominator's rationale: Redundant unnecessary layer of categorization Gjs238 (talk) 17:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retract proposal, error. Gjs238 (talk) 18:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trilateral relations

Propose merging: Category:Canada–United Kingdom–United States cultural relations to Category:Canada–United Kingdom–United States relations, Category:Canada–United Kingdom cultural relations, Category:Canada–United States cultural relations, and Category:United Kingdom–United States cultural relations

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Canada–United Kingdom relations to Category:Canada–United Kingdom relations, Category:Trilateral relations of Canada, and Category:Trilateral relations of the United Kingdom

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral United Kingdom–United States relations to Category:United Kingdom–United States relations, Category:Trilateral relations of the United Kingdom, and Category:Trilateral relations of the United States

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of the United Kingdom by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: there may be room for categories for some specific trilateral relations that are especially notable. However, splitting them by type of relation (cultural/trade/hostile/sports etc.) and creating a hoard of empty intermediate categories for very little content does not help navigation. The only content in all this is Doctor Who in the United States and Canada. Place Clichy (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trilateral relations of Canada, Mexico, and the United States

Propose renaming: Category:Trilateral relations of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to Category:Canada–Mexico–United States relations

Propose merging: Category:Canada–Mexico–United States hostile trade relations to Category:Canada–Mexico–United States relations, and Category:Canada–United States trade relations

Propose merging: Category:Canada–Mexico–United States hostile relations to Category:Canada–Mexico–United States relations

Propose merging: Category:Canada–Mexico–United States trade relations to Category:Canada–Mexico–United States relations, and Category:Canada–United States trade relations

Propose merging: Category:Canada–Mexico–United States sports relations to Category:Canada–Mexico–United States relations, Category:Canada–Mexico sports relations, Category:Canada–United States sports relations, and Category:Mexico–United States sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–Mexico sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–United States sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Mexico–United States sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of Canada by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of Mexico by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of the United States by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of Canada

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of Mexico

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations of the United States

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations by country

Propose deleting: Category:Plurilateral sports relations by country

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Plurilateral sports relations

Propose deleting: Category:Plurilateral cultural relations by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Plurilateral cultural relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–Mexico trade relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–United States trade relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Mexico–United States trade relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of Canada by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of Mexico by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of the United States by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of Canada

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of Mexico

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations of the United States

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations by country

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral trade relations

Propose deleting: Category:Plurilateral trade relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–Mexico hostile relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Canada–United States hostile relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral Mexico–United States hostile relations

Propose deleting: Category:Canada–Mexico hostile relations

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral relations of Canada by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral relations of Mexico by bilateral relation

Propose deleting: Category:Trilateral relations of the United States by bilateral relation

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Canada–United States relations to Category:Canada–United States relations, Category:Trilateral relations of Canada, and Category:Trilateral relations of the United States

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Canada–Mexico relations to Category:Canada–Mexico relations, Category:Trilateral relations of Canada, and Category:Trilateral relations of the United States

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Mexico–United States relations to Category:Mexico–United States relations, Category:Trilateral relations of Mexico, and Category:Trilateral relations of the United States

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of Canada by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of Canada

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of Mexico by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of Mexico

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of the United States by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of the United States

Nominator's rationale: there may be room for catgeories for some specific trilateral relations that are especially notable. However, splitting them by type of relation (cultural/trade/hostile/sports etc.) and creating a hoard of empty intermediate categories for very little content does not help navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

China–Japan–South Korea sports relations

Propose merging: Category:China–Japan–South Korea sports relations to Category:China–Japan–South Korea relations, Category:China–Japan sports relations, Category:China–South Korea sports relations, and Category:Japan–South Korea sports relations

Nominator's rationale: there may be room for catgeories for some specific trilateral relations that are especially notable. However, splitting them by type of relation (cultural/trade/hostile/sports etc.) and creating a hoard of empty intermediate categories for very little content does not help navigation. the only content here is China–Japan–Korea Friendship Athletic Meeting. Place Clichy (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh–India–Pakistan–United Kingdom relations

Propose merging: Category:Quadrilateral Bangladesh–India–Pakistan relations to Category:Quadrilateral relations of Bangladesh, Category:Quadrilateral relations of India, Category:Quadrilateral relations of Pakistan, Category:Bangladesh–India–Pakistan relations

Propose merging: Category:Quadrilateral Bangladesh–India–United Kingdom relations to Category:Quadrilateral relations of Bangladesh, Category:Quadrilateral relations of India, Category:Quadrilateral relations of the United Kingdom, Category:Bangladesh–India relations, Category:Bangladesh–United Kingdom relations, and Category:India–United Kingdom relations

Propose merging: Category:Quadrilateral Bangladesh–Pakistan–United Kingdom relations to Category:Quadrilateral relations of Bangladesh, Category:Quadrilateral relations of Pakistan, Category:Quadrilateral relations of the United Kingdom, Category:Bangladesh–Pakistan relations, Category:Bangladesh–United Kingdom relations, and Category:Pakistan–United Kingdom relations

Propose merging: Category:Quadrilateral India–Pakistan–United Kingdom relations to Category:Quadrilateral relations of India, Category:Quadrilateral relations of Pakistan, Category:Quadrilateral relations of the United Kingdom, Category:India–Pakistan relations, Category:India–United Kingdom relations, and Category:Pakistan–United Kingdom relations

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Bangladesh–India relations to Category:Trilateral relations of Bangladesh, Category:Trilateral relations of India, and Category:Bangladesh–India relations

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral Bangladesh–Pakistan relations to Category:Trilateral relations of Bangladesh, Category:Trilateral relations of Pakistan, and Category:Bangladesh–Pakistan relations

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral India–Pakistan relations to Category:Trilateral relations of India, Category:Trilateral relations of Pakistan, and Category:India–Pakistan relations

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of Bangladesh by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of Bangladesh

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of India by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of India

Propose merging: Category:Trilateral relations of Pakistan by bilateral relation to Category:Trilateral relations of Pakistan

Propose merging: Category:Plurilateral relations of Bangladesh to Category:Foreign relations of Bangladesh

Propose merging: Category:Plurilateral relations of India to Category:Foreign relations of India

Propose merging: Category:Plurilateral relations of Pakistan to Category:Foreign relations of Pakistan

Propose merging: Category:Plurilateral relations of the United Kingdom to Category:Foreign relations of the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: there may be room for catgeories for some specific trilateral relations that are especially notable. However, splitting them by type of relation (cultural/trade/hostile/sports etc.) and creating a hoard of empty intermediate categories for very little content does not help navigation. the only content here is British India. Place Clichy (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Martyrs of Bangladesh

Propose deleting Category:Martyrs of Bangladesh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Martyred intellectuals of the Bangladesh Liberation War

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, there isn't any formal process for declaring these peoples martyrs. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Óscar Romero

Propose deleting Category:Óscar Romero (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SHAREDNAME, apart from the eponymous article none of the articles provides further information about the subject. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Afroasiatic

Propose merging Category:Afroasiatic to Category:Afro-Asia

Nominator's rationale: This category is currently classified as an ethnic group, and its description states that the term "refers to the Afroasiatic language family, and by extension, to the peoples and cultures associated with these languages." I find these to be misleading, as there is no single ethnic group that would define itself by this language family. Also, using an adjective for a category title is nearly always ambiguous, imprecise and syntaxically incorrect, and most such categories have been renamed. I suggest reparenting to the wider Afro-Asia region instead. Place Clichy (talk) 11:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, it is unclear what this category should contain considering there is already a Category:Afroasiatic languages. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:16th-century Danish engravers

Propose splitting Category:16th-century Danish engravers to Category:16th-century engravers and Category:Danish engravers

Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. Upmerge for now ^SMason_Garrison 04:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Triple merge, also to Category:16th-century Danish artists. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:21st-century Czech engravers

Propose splitting Category:21st-century Czech engravers to Category:21st-century engravers and Category:Czech engravers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is extremely underpopulated. ^SMason_Garrison 04:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Burial sites of the House of Beni Alfons

Propose renaming Category:Burial sites of the House of Beni Alfons to Category:Burial sites of the Astur-Leonese dynasty

Nominator's rationale: Beni Alfons is a redirect to Astur-Leonese dynasty, the more common name of the people buried in these sites. This is part of Category:Astur-Leonese dynasty. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 22

Category:20th-century Asian-American women politicians

Propose merging Category:20th-century Asian-American women politicians to Category:American women of Asian descent in politics and Category:20th-century Asian-American politicians
Propose merging Category:21st-century Asian-American women politicians to Category:American women of Asian descent in politics and Category:21st-century Asian-American politicians

Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge. There is no reason to diffuse this category by century. The undergendered parent category isn't populated enough 20th-century Asian-American politicians ^SMason_Garrison 23:24, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the lack of population of the undergendered parent category 20th-century Asian-American politicians, that category is still relatively new and not yet populated. Give it some time. There are hundreds of eligible entries for categorization.—Myasuda (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't nominate 20th-century Asian-American politicians for that reason. I think that diffusing by century for the ungendered parent is possibly viable. ^SMason_Garrison 01:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per WP:OCEGRS, which applies in this case to both gender and ethnicity. Besides quadruple intersections is something we normally do not do. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I based these categories on the African-American series. No issue with merging if its not populated enough. Moondragon21 (talk) 14:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly encourage you to review WP:OCEGRS before making more categories at multiple intersections like this. @Moondragon21 ^SMason_Garrison 01:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sports competitions in Villars-sur-Ollon

Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Villars-sur-Ollon to Category:Sport in the canton of Vaud

Nominator's rationale: merge, this is about a small village, not even a municipality. There is no Category:Villars-sur-Ollon either. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Israeli nuclear development

Propose renaming Category:Israeli nuclear development to Category:Israeli nuclear program

Nominator's rationale: There’s no other category named "x country nuclear development" so match with other categories Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:36, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The dominant pattern in Category:Nuclear weapons programs by country suggests Category:Nuclear weapons program of Israel. (The topic of the category is weapons rather than general Category:Nuclear technology in Israel.) – Fayenatic London 21:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Health fraud people

Propose renaming Category:Health fraud people to Category:People associated with health fraud

Nominator's rationale: I think this category should be renamed to something more intuitive like people associated with health fraud or Health-related fraudsters ^SMason_Garrison 01:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, we already have Category:People convicted for health fraud and I don't see why we would need something additionally. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the reasoning is that not everyone is convicted. ^SMason_Garrison 23:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If not kept in some flavor, it would need to be merged to Category:Health fraud and Category:Fraudsters. ^SMason_Garrison 23:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We usually do not put people in crime categories when they are not convicted. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not accurate. There's a distinction made in many of these categories between convicted and not. Look at Category:People convicted of cybercrime and Category:Cybercriminals as one example. ^SMason_Garrison 23:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 18:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most articles in Category:Cybercriminals actually belonged in Category:People convicted of cybercrime, I have moved them. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not my point. My point is that there are a lot of these kinds of categories Category:Criminals by crime. Deletion would isolate this category from the larger tree. ^SMason_Garrison 01:46, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mozambican Muslims

Propose deleting Category:Mozambican Muslims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Doesn’t say anywhere in their articles that they’re Muslim, only two articles Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Purge the articles per nom, then delete the category as empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I have recently added text and citation to the Amade Camal article that confirm the subject's religious profession. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 18:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, then add Amade Camal to Category:African Muslims. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sahrawi Muslims

Propose deleting Category:Sahrawi Muslims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Delete whole category tree as none of the articles in it are actually Muslim except for one in the Category:Sahrawi Islamists so I propose deleting

Category:Sahrawi Muslims
Category:Sahrawi Sunni Muslims
Category:Sahrawi Islamists Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, these people probably are Muslim but "probably" is not good enough and it is certainly not a defining characteristic in these cases. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the article Adnan Abu Walid al-Sahrawi has multiple citations and text supporting its inclusion in Category:Sahrawi Islamists. That category is the daughter category of the other two nominated, and as such none of them should be deleted. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Inter&anthro Please populate the categories you make with more than one person. Merge to Category:African Islamists ^SMason_Garrison 23:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I have tagged Category:Sahrawi Islamists.
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Fair enough, then add Adnan Abu Walid al-Sahrawi to Category:African Islamists. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former Sunni Muslims

Propose deleting Category:Former Sunni Muslims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Very few of the articles in this category’s subcategories contain people that are (or were) Sunni Muslim. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:43, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, this is not generally the case, especially not in the converts subcategories. An example is Abraham of Bulgaria. Besides just deleting the top category would not solve the problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, what I’m proposing is to delete just the former Sunni Muslims categories because the Category:Former Muslims already covers it. In other words the people in the category:Former Sunni Muslims belong in the category:Former Muslims but not category:Former Sunni Muslims. I’m sorry I guess I didn’t word correctly what I’m proposing. Basically, what I’m proposing is to merge the category:Former Sunni Muslims into category:Former Muslims since most of the articles in the category:Former Sunni Muslims are (or were) just Muslims but not Sunni Muslims. Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:18, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah ok, then I misunderstood the intention. Still, this would require to nominate all subcategories rather than just the top category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Oppose. I created this category to help clean up Sunni Muslims along with the parent category Category:Former Muslims. Category:Former Shia Muslims serves an identical purpose. So both should be nominated. If not kept, it should be merged to both Category:Former Muslims and Category:Sunni Muslims. ^SMason_Garrison 23:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Djiboutian Muslims

Propose deleting Category:Djiboutian Muslims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: None of the people in this category or its subcategory are Muslim so I propose deleting this category and the subcategory category: Djiboutian Sunni Muslims. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also add

Category:Nigerien Muslims
Category:Nigerien Islamists Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, these people probably are Muslim but "probably" is not good enough and it is certainly not a defining characteristic in these cases. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The only article in Category:Nigerien Islamists is without any doubt about an Islamist. But as there aren't any other articles in this category yet, the category is not helpful for navigation. So this is a different rationale. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the article Doundou Chefou has multiple citations and text supporting its inclusion in Category:Nigerien Islamists. That category is the daughter category of Category:Nigerien Muslims that was also nominated, and as such none of them should be deleted. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I have tagged Category:Djiboutian Sunni Muslims. The Nigerian categories should not be considered in this discussion.
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I realize I haven't been clear about what to do with Category:Nigerien Islamists. It should be merged to Category:Nigerien people and Category:African Islamists, rather than deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Children of Charles III

Propose deleting Category:Children of Charles III (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Small category incapable of expansion. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:55, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support in principle, but merge to Category:Charles III and Category:Children of English monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It would probably be more correct to have a Category:Children of British monarchs and move some of the subcategories of Category:Children of English monarchs, from Category:Children of George I of Great Britain onwards, there. Ham II (talk) 06:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
merge to Category:Charles III and Category:Children of English monarchs. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 1#Category:Children of George VI. DrKay (talk) 22:29, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Deaths by LTTE suicide bomber

Propose merging Category:Deaths by LTTE suicide bomber to Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam

Nominator's rationale: Mostly overlaps with Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, which should be renamed to "Assassinations attributed to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam" per NPOV. Petextrodon (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with nom, in principle, but rename this category to Category:Assassinations attributed to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, while Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam can become a subcategory of it. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Genetics in Africa

Propose merging Category:Genetics in Africa to Category:Genetics by continent

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer ^SMason_Garrison 00:37, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Agreed that the layer is unnecessary, but not sure which should be the preferred operation. Might make more sense to keep Genetics in Africa and upmerge the subcat since it matches the naming of Genetics by continent (in this case, Genetic history of Europe would also need renamed). Or it could go the other way around, renaming Genetics by continent to Genetic history by continent. Either way, I think the names need to be matched. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support somehow, both nom's proposal and QH's alternative may work. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Pansexual people by occupation

Propose merging Category:Pansexual people by occupation to Category:LGBTQ people by occupation

Nominator's rationale: This category and all its subcategories would seem to violate WP:OCEGRS as I am not sure pansexuality is defining as it relates to occupations. I would suggest an upmerge if necessary to the parent category or its subcategories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is also Category:Bisexual people by occupation, Category:Lesbians by occupation etc., so this requires a broader discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't want a WP:TRAINWRECK if there's something I'm missing about one of them, so preferably it can be judged separately.. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I can see how someone would write about lesbian writers differently from (male) gay writers, so I can see why those categories exist, but I'm not sure that pansexuality is more specifically defining than LGBTQ status in these occupations. So I think considering this category and its subcategories without all of the subcategories of sexuality by occupation makes sense. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:German expressionist dramatists and playwrights

Propose renaming Category:German expressionist dramatists and playwrights to Category:German Expressionist dramatists and playwrights
Propose renaming Category:German Expressionist writers to Category:German expressionist writers (added 22nd June)

Nominator's rationale: Should this be uppercase, like German Expressionist writers ? ^SMason_Garrison 15:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it be German expressionist writers instead? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the movement is "German Expressionism", but I'm not opposed to renaming the parent instead ^SMason_Garrison 23:37, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The article Expressionism does not mention German Expressionism as a specific sub-movement. I meanwhile found German expressionist cinema without capital E too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  I'm fine with renaming the parent. Let me tag it. ^SMason_Garrison 22:36, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Category:German Expressionist writers was tagged, but not added to the nomination. I have done so now.
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Category:Mayors of Tel Keppe

Propose merging Category:Mayors of Tel Keppe to Category:Mayors of places in Iraq

Nominator's rationale: Not enough entries to justify a separate category, entry would fit better in the suggested category Surayeproject3 (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge also to Category:People from Tel Keppe. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bharatiya Janata Party scandals

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename. The editor who created and populated the 1-month old category agrees to the renaming, WP:C2E applies. (non-admin closure) —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Bharatiya Janata Party scandals to Category:Bharatiya Janata Party controversies

Nominator's rationale: The entrants of this category do not meet the criteria for political scandal. These are best described as controversies. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 16:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CX Zoom Yes, I agree with you. Md Joni Hossain (talk) 17:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@মোহাম্মদ জনি হোসেন: If you agree, can I close this discussion and proceed with WP:C2E speedy rename criteria? —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 01:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. rename Md Joni Hossain (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Jewish Ukrainian politicians

Propose recosidering Category:Jewish Ukrainian politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: The name of the category is ambiguous and hence the content of the category is confusing: it lumps Jews of Ukrainian descent who are/were politicians in Ukraine, Israel, Russia and probably somewhere else. I suggest

Option 1: split the category into Category: Jewish Ukrainian politicians by country
Option 2: rename to Category: Ukrainian politicians of Jewish desent and cleanup accordingly.

For example, currently former Israeli politician Beba Idelson is in the branch Category:Jewish Ukrainian politicians <-- Category:Ukrainian politicians <-- Category:Ukrainian political people <-- Category:Politics of Ukraine, which does not feel right. --Altenmann >talk 16:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. in favor of option 2 is the existence of category:Ukrainian politicians of Korean descent and similar categories elsewhere, e.g., Category:American politicians of Polish descent. --Altenmann >talk 16:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Option 2, we do normally not categorize politicians by a nationality unrelated to their office. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Silent radio stations

Propose deleting Category:Silent radio stations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This is not an appropriate category. Being silent is a temporary characteristic of a radio station, so one would expect stations to move in and out of this category all the time. (Reasons for silence may include financial reasons, facility damage, etc.) Some stations in this category may never return to the air and eventually need switching to defunct station categories. Categorization is inappropriate for this condition. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 16:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (as category creator): Being "silent", where a station is allowed to be off the air but still retain it's broadcast license, is definitely intended to be temporary and 20 years ago I would have agreed with the nominator. But the broadcast industry is in such shambles that being silent often persists. WHNQ (AM) went off the air in 2023 for financial reasons while WVOD did so in 2024. Even with stations that went silent this year, I wonder if it would really be WP:CRYSTALBALL to add them to Category:Defunct radio stations right now: WLZR was an uneconomical daytime-only AM station and WLBG had been for sale for 8 years but could not find a buyer. Also note that these articles typically have both their infobox and and text updated to reflect they are silent, so a category doesn't seem like too much overhead.
A radio station that doesn't broadcast on the radio seems defining to me, but this could also work as a maintenance category. I look forward to other perspectives! - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films shot in Honfleur

Propose merging Category:Films shot in Honfleur to Category:Films shot in Calvados (department)

Nominator's rationale: "Films shot in X" category newly created for just one film. As always, every place that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one film with a Wikipedia article has done some shooting there -- this would be fine if there were numerous films filed in it, but is not necessary for just one film, and the departmental level is more than sufficient in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Occitan-language sportspeople

Propose deleting Category:Occitan-language sportspeople (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining intersection of unrelated characteristics. A few "Occitan-language X" categories exist for occupations where verbal language is a core feature of the occupation -- singers who sing in Occitan, writers who write in Occitan, etc. -- but language is not related to performance in sports. Sports are about physical, rather than verbal, activity, so there's no defining relationship between one's native language and being in sports, and I haven't found any other "Sportspeople by language" categories for any other language that I've checked. Bearcat (talk) 14:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sports are also about verbal activity, and there's surely a relation between language and sports, as there is one between language and culture, therefore it can happen. Moreover, telegu-language sportspeople was wrongly listed here :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Telugu-speaking_people_by_occupation this is why the redlink to consider them together, following this precedent.

There is also categories with a less relevant relation between fluency in a language and some occupations, i believe.

Still, some reorganization should be made.

Respectfully. Mirteye (talk) 21:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Linux distributions offering KDE desktop environment

Propose deleting Category:Linux distributions offering KDE desktop environment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per numerous prior discussions, it's not useful to categorize Linux distributions for the matter of which desktop environment they "offer" -- since any Linux distro can be configured to use any desktop environment of the user's choice regardless of whether it came as the preinstalled default or not, it just isn't a useful distinction between distros. You can easily install a distro that isn't here and configure it to use KDE anyway, and you can easily install a distro that is here and configure it to use Gnome or XFCE or Cinnamon anyway, so it doesn't constitute a significant difference between Linux distros. Bearcat (talk) 14:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose keep: I agree from a advanced user view, but most of users do no do that, they do search by Desktop environment. --Dadu (talk) 06:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose keep per Dadu. -- Just N. (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mikrani People of Nepal

Propose renaming Category:Mikrani People of Nepal to Category:Mikrani people

Nominator's rationale: I think that this category should be broaden/ renamed ^SMason_Garrison 00:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, it is not awfully clear whether the people in this category are Mikrani people or whether their surname happens to Mikrani. They all seem relatives of each other. (Support rename if nobody knows what is going on here.) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Purge of articles that aren't verifiably Mikrani people, then rename/delete as appropriate. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 12:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lovers

Propose merging Category:Lovers to Category:Romantic and sexual partners

Nominator's rationale: An ambiguous term. User:Namiba 18:12, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment My understanding is that "lovers" refers to unmarried partners.★Trekker (talk) 23:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per *Trekker. These are mostly lovers of royalty, in contrast to spouses. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Category:Extramarital relationships would be a better target then? I don't see a need for a separate category, especially one with an ambiguous name.--User:Namiba 14:37, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Extramarital relationships is a topic category while Category:Lovers is a set category. If anything, I'd rather merge Category:Adultery to Category:Extramarital relationships. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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At least rename somehow. Current title is too vague. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment IMHO Paul_012 is right. My proposal: Merge to Category:Mistresses. What about an appropriate category for male examples? Any ideas to fill this gap? -- Just N. (talk) 10:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CCCP provincial committee people and members

Propose merging Category:CCP Anhui Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Anhui Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of Fujian Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to Category:Fujian Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people
Propose merging Category:CCP Guangdong Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Guangdong Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Henan Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Henan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Henan Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Henan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Hunan Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Hunan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Jiangsu Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Jiangsu Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Jilin Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Jilin Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Liaoning Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Liaoning Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Qinghai Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Qinghai Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Shandong Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Shandong Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Shanxi Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Shanxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Shanxi Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Shanxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee people (1 C) to Category:CCP Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee people
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee (1 C) to Category:CCP Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee people
Propose merging Category:CCP Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee people (1 C) to Category:Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee (1 C) to Category:Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:CCP Yunnan Provincial Committee people (1 C) to Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Members of CCP Yunnan Provincial Committee (1 C) to Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
Propose merging Category:Yunnan Federation of Trade Unions (1 C) to Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

Nominator's rationale: merge, two redundant category layers (people and members) with one subcategory in every of these categories. With very few exceptions, only standing members are categorized as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, @Marcocapelle:, I will probably be able to add these subcategories and articles to many numbers very soon. But please do not merge them recklessly. TinaLees-Jones (talk) 05:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TinaLees-Jones: I do not expect this discussion will be closed within a few weeks (it may also be relisted). So please go ahead populating any of these categories and I will withdraw the nominations accordingly when you are done. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Flash games ported to consoles

Propose deleting Category:Flash games ported to consoles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This would seem to violate WP:NONDEF. If it's on a console, it can also be listed in the relevant console category. But the fact that it was ported to consoles is rarely something massively important. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I find this category quite useful. And not at all NONDEF. The nomination is IMHO aimed at wiping out valuable tracks into video game history for normal (non-scientists) people. -- Just N. (talk) 11:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:French military attachés

Propose renaming Category:French military attachés to Category:Military attachés for France
Propose renaming Category:French naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for France
Propose renaming Category:German air attachés to Category:Air attachés for Germany
Propose renaming Category:German military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Germany
Propose renaming Category:Greek military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Greece
Propose renaming Category:Greek naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for Greece
Propose renaming Category:Indian air attachés to Category:Air attachés for India
Propose renaming Category:Indian military attachés to Category:Military attachés for India
Propose renaming Category:Indian naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for India
Propose renaming Category:Italian air attachés to Category:Air attachés for Italy
Propose renaming Category:Italian military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Italy
Propose renaming Category:Japanese military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Japan
Propose renaming Category:Japanese naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for Japan
Propose renaming Category:Norwegian military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Norway
Propose renaming Category:Pakistani air attachés to Category:Air attachés for Pakistan
Propose renaming Category:Pakistani military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Pakistan
Propose renaming Category:Pakistani naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for Pakistan
Propose renaming Category:Polish military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Poland
Propose renaming Category:Romanian military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Romania
Propose renaming Category:Russian military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Russia
Propose renaming Category:Russian naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for Russia
Propose renaming Category:South Korean military attachés to Category:Military attachés for South Korea
Propose renaming Category:Sri Lankan military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Sri Lanka
Propose renaming Category:Swedish air attachés to Category:Air attachés for Sweden
Propose renaming Category:Swedish military attachés to Category:Military attachés for Sweden
Propose renaming Category:Swedish naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for Sweden
Propose renaming Category:Military attachés of the Russian Empire to Category:Military attachés for the Russian Empire
Propose renaming Category:Soviet military attachés to Category:Military attachés for the Soviet Union
Propose renaming Category:Soviet naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for the Soviet Union
Propose renaming Category:British air attachés to Category:Air attachés for the United Kingdom
Propose renaming Category:British military attachés to Category:Military attachés for the United Kingdom
Propose renaming Category:British naval attachés to Category:Naval attachés for the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: These are under the Category:Diplomats for Foo categories and are now the only role that switches back to using nationality demonyms (e.g. in Category:Diplomats for Japan, there are Category:Ambassadors of Japan, Category:Consuls for Japan, and Category:Ministers for foreign affairs of Japan). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Parks established in 1820

Propose merging Category:Parks established in 1820 to Category:Protected areas established in 1820 and Category:Parks established in the 1820s
Propose merging Category:Parks established in 2010 to Category:Protected areas established in 2010 and Category:Parks established in the 2010s

Nominator's rationale: One entry in 1820, three entries in 2010; no other Category:Parks established in YYYY. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

X-speaking countries and territories

Propose renaming Category:Armenian-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Armenian is an official language
Propose renaming Category:French-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where French is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Kashmiri-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Kashmiri is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Korean-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Korean is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Pashto-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Pashto is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Punjabi-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Punjabi is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Spanish-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Spanish is an official language
Propose renaming Category:Swahili-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where Swahili is an official language
Propose merging Category:English-speaking countries and territories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Countries and territories where English is an official language

Nominator's rationale: Prior consensus is that countries should be classified by official language only; therefore, about 3/4 of the categories were renamed as such after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_20#Category:Countries_and_territories_by_language. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Ku Klux Klan members convicted of crimes

Propose deleting Category:American Ku Klux Klan members convicted of crimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: I don't think this is a defining intersection between group and crime. There are plenty, plenty, plenty of KKK inspired murders, but those are in a subcategory. What is here is a lot of crimes that are completely unrelated to the KKK status (from the first few I picked, illegal gambling, disturbing the peace, tax issues, child molestation) so for almost all articles in the category it fails WP:CATDEF. This category is not defining - the murders one may be so I'm not nominating that. I also don't know why we're specifying American. This should be upmerged to the parent categories (I clicked delete on accident). PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:American Ku Klux Klan members per nom. That category may be nominated for upmerging too, together with its Canadian sibling, since Ku Klux Klan is almost exclusively American anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I was looking through these earlier and I thought it was weird. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Iranian languages regions

Propose deleting Category:Iranian languages regions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We don't group regions by language families spoken there. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hold on, this might qualify for G4 per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_4#Category:Countries_by_language_family, which included a category for the Iranian languages. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Speedy) delete per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Shooting survivors

Propose renaming Category:Shooting survivors to Category:Non-combat shooting survivors and do the same for all its subcategories

Nominator's rationale: This is the spirit of the category: its parent Category:Shooting victims is in Category:Crime victims. People in shot military combat are hardly crime victims. Recently I run into the case where someone included a militant into the category of shooting survivors, and this did not seem proper to me. --Altenmann >talk 05:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose A "shooting" in common parlance if a gun being used in a crime, not combat, where it would just be called a combat or war survivor. I don't see the necessity to make it more specific. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- If a soldier was shot in the chest, but survived, I think this means he "survived the shooting". During the war (surpize!) people are shooting each other and some of them survive. As I said, I made the nomination not because of pedantry, see above. --Altenmann >talk
Comment I would be inclined to delete the whole tree but, procedurally, the subcats are not nominated. - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Who prevents you from nominating the whole enchillada. Deletion is a good idea. Death by shooting cat makes sense , but surviuval of shooting is hardly a defining characteristic. Do we have category:Heart attack survivors? --Altenmann >talk 22:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - RD is right, it is pointless to nominate the top category only, without nominating the subcategories. After all, most articles are in the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well, that's what I did, see my nom. But RD makes a different suggestion: to delete them all, and I agreed. As soon as this one closes I will nominate multideletion, per RD suggestion. --Altenmann >talk 06:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      My comment is more about the mechanics actual nominating process; the subcategories don't have a tag on them pointing to this discussion. I understand that's your intent with the wording of the nomination, but people following those subcats could correctly say they got no notice of the discussion. (From there, it's common for nominations to be renamed to be turned into deletions, and vice versa, without retagging the categories.) RevelationDirect (talk) 10:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      - Right, the subcategories need to be tagged. Without tagging the bot won't do its job. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mario Kart characters

Propose merging Category:Mario Kart characters to Category:Mario (franchise) characters

Nominator's rationale: As I was adding other articles to the category, I realised that most Mario characters with Wikipedia articles are in the Mario Kart series, meaning that the articles in this category would be identical to Category:Mario (franchise) characters, likely making the Mario Kart characters category unnecessary. SleepyRedHair (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

my idea is made a Category call "Kart racing games characters" for characters appear in a Kart racing games, all Kart racing games in general not only in mario kart franchise

Aomaf (talk)

17:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Might be worth taking a look at WP:NLIST to see if this could work as a list article.- RevelationDirect (talk) 23:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Per WP:PERFCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Per nom. It overlaps too much with the general Mario series. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 21

Category:South Korean LGBTQ military personnel

Propose merging Category:South Korean LGBTQ military personnel to Category:LGBTQ military personnel

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. Please, Giovanni 0331, populate the categories you create with more than one person ^SMason_Garrison 23:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, as the article is already in Category:Transgender military personnel. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 09:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Precursors of electronic literature

Propose deleting Category:Precursors of electronic literature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary and overly broad category that could theoretically be a parent category for all literature prior to electronics. Gjs238 (talk) 19:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Hi @Gis238! The intention of the category is to include works that reliable, independent sources have identified as precursors to electronic literature - so non-linear print literature of various kinds, like Nabokov's Pale Fire or Queneau's A Hundred Thousand Billion Poems. This is a very, very small subset of print literature. Perhaps changing the category name to something more easy for non-experts to understand is appropriate, or changing the description? Also - wouldn't it be better to start this kind of discussion on the talk page of the category rather than going straight to a CfD? Lijil (talk) 20:32, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete. Not a defining characteristic. By the way right now I deleted Dictionary of the Khazars (and later nearly all the rest) from this category, because the article has no sligthest indications how it is a precursor of anything. It appears this is an original research of the category creator. --Altenmann >talk 20:47, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question - So would this be better as a list or its own article, assuming there are appropriate sources with WP:SIGCOV? This was a category I made early on, before knowing that much about categorisation in Wikipedia, and I can see that it doesn't fit very well as it stands. Lijil (talk) 08:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not start off by expanding List of electronic literature authors, critics, and works? Gjs238 (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at WP:NLIST to see if your sources would support a list article. (I don't want you to lose a category and then go through an AFD!) RevelationDirect (talk) 23:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rajiv Gandhi Manav Seva Award

Propose deleting Category:Rajiv Gandhi Manav Seva Award (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category newly created for a single person, based on their being given an award that doesn't have a Wikipedia article. (There is a draft about it at Draft:Rajiv Gandhi Manav Seva Award, but it's been rejected at AFC for lacking reliable sourcing, and absolutely none of the recipients named in it have been wikilinked, so I have no way to even figure out if there are any other potential additions to this category.)
As always, every award does not automatically get a dedicated category the moment one recipient of that award has an article to file in it -- and awards aren't all equally defining of their recipients, so even if there were many recipients with Wikipedia articles it still wouldn't be automatically guaranteed a category for them without substantial evidence that the award met a much higher bar of significance than just existing.
So it might or might not be justifiable if there were a lot of people here, but it absolutely isn't warranted at all for just one person. Bearcat (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly WP:OCAWARD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century Slovak engravers

Propose renaming Category:20th-century Slovak engravers to Category:20th-century Slovak artists
- Propose deleting Category:Slovak engravers (added 21 June)

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. Instead of merging, I think we should repurpose it to a general artists category. ^SMason_Garrison 13:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If renamed this way the article should also be added to Category:20th-century engravers. An instant merge to Category:20th-century engravers is also a possibility. Parent Category:Slovak engravers should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: adding parent category
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 16:46, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (i.e. add contents) to Category:20th-century engravers and rename to Category:20th-century Slovak artists, which should also then hold Category:20th-century Slovak painters and Category:20th-century Slovak sculptors. – Fayenatic London 16:52, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support above proposal of Marcocapelle. -- Just N. (talk) 09:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Real Book Song

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The result of the discussion was: Closing this discussion as invalid since the same category is already being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 18#Category:Real Book Song * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Real Book Song (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category for songs included in an individual songbook. The songs here are virtually all jazz standards that have potentially been included in dozens or even hundreds of songbooks, thus leading to extreme category bloat if we categorized them for every individual songbook they had been reprinted in -- so for the same reason that we don't categorize songs for every individual album that a recording of them has appeared on, they shouldn't be categorized for individual songbooks that their sheet music appears in either. And even if it were to be kept, it's incorrectly named and would have to be moved to Category:Real Book songs anyway. Bearcat (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: This discussion already took place and the consensus was to keep it. Trumpetrep (talk) 16:41, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, precisely how do you claim that categorizing songs for their inclusion in individual songbooks is any different from categorizing songs for their inclusion on individual albums, a thing we have an explicit consensus to not do?

Secondly, this category is incorrectly named according to our naming conventions — singular rather than plural class noun, categorization of "Song" — and thus would have to be renamed to a properly NC-compliant name even if it is kept, so a discussion would still be necessary to get it moved to an appropriate new name regardless. Bearcat (talk) 16:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should consult the previous discussion on this issue.Trumpetrep (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Former Meredith Corporation subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former Meredith Corporation subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Orders, decorations, and medals created by Asprey

Propose deleting Category:Orders, decorations, and medals created by Asprey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Orders, decorations, and medals created by Spink & Son (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Two newly-created categories for orders, decorations and medals on the matter of who designed and manufactured the actual physical thing that the award recipients are given. This is not defining of the awards, and is not how the word "created" would normally be understood in this context -- we would say that the Academy Awards were created by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, not that they were created by George Stanley or Cedric Gibbons, because "created" is about who launched the overarching concept of the awards program, not who the creator then commissioned to design or manufacture the trophy or medal or plaque or certificate.
As well, we don't have a single other category for any kind of award by the identity of the award's hardware designers, meaning there isn't even an "Awards by designer" tree for them to be filed in. Bearcat (talk) 16:28, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both as proposed. Gjs238 (talk) 01:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Especially since governments often change contractors. No objection to listing in the company articles though or discussing the manufacture and design in the award articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:18, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:25, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Macau film-related categories

Propose renaming Category:Macau film awards to Category:Macanese film awards
Propose renaming Category:Macau_film_people to Category:Macanese film people
Propose renaming Category:Macau_film_actors to Category:Macanese film actors
Propose renaming Category:Macau_film_actresses to Category:Macanese film actresses

Nominator's rationale: C2B WP:CATNATION. Nicholas0 (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the three people categories. Since this CFD in 2014, Category:Macau people does not use Macanese in any occupational sub-cats but rather "Macau", following the demonym "Macau" stated in the main article Macau. Category:Macanese people is for a specific ethnic group. "Macanese" is otherwise currently used only for Category:Macanese films, Category:Macanese cuisine, Category:Macanese football logos and their subcats, so if those are correct then it would also be appropriate for film awards. But see also Category:Macau architecture, Category:Macau literature, Category:Macau music. (Others use "of/in Macau".) – Fayenatic London 08:08, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like there is significant inconsistency here. I wanted to create a category for Macau film directors and stumbled upon all of the "Macanese" categories. I noticed inconsistencies, so I proposed these changes. If the CFD in 2014 resulted in only objects and organizations being called "Macanese", then I would argue that Category:Macau architecture, Category:Macau literature, and Category:Macau music should be changed to Category:Macanese architecture, Category:Macanese literature, and Category:Macanese music for consistency. I don't have a personal preference either way ("Macau" or "Macanese"), but consistency would be nice so that I know how to name the category for directors when I create it. Nicholas0 (talk) 19:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think films and football logos should use "Macau". Cuisine is more debatable because of the lead article Macanese cuisine, which is partly about cuisine of the Macanese ethnic group, and partly about wider cuisine of Macau. – Fayenatic London 20:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Unclear, not decidable. significant inconsistency has to be solved first. -- Just N. (talk) 09:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:AEW Title Tuesday

Propose deleting Category:AEW Title Tuesday (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category with a single member after the merging/redirection of other events into the article. Sceptre (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:C2F, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was honestly unaware that it was a criterion, but it makes sense. Sceptre (talk) 14:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom --Just N. (talk) 09:31, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:14th-century Spanish Jews

Propose merging Category:14th-century Spanish Jews to Category:14th-century Sephardi Jews
Propose merging Category:15th-century Spanish Jews to Category:15th-century Sephardi Jews

Nominator's rationale: merge, Spain did not exist yet and "Sephardi" already covers the fact that it is on the Iberian Peninsula. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:21, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lean opposed. This category helps with navigation. 14th-century Spanish people is a category as is 15th-century Spanish people ^SMason_Garrison 14:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In e.g. Category:14th-century Aragonese Jews they are still part of Category:14th-century Spanish people. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And your point is... ? I don't think your argument is compelling because it also applies to the parent categories. Why would we get rid of Spanish Jews in the 14th century because Spain doesn't exist if we don't get rid of Spanish people in the 14th century? I see no harm is keeping the 14th/15th century Spanish Jews as it helps people navigate between the different kingdoms. ^SMason_Garrison 01:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Defunct towns in Russia

Propose splitting Category:Defunct towns in Russia to Category:Ghost towns in Russia and Category:Populated places in Russia that lost city or town status

Nominator's rationale: This category is a mixture of two completely different entities. One is something that is not a inhabited settlement anymore, sometimes actually ruins. The other is something that used to be a city, but has now been downgraded to a village or hamlet. For the former, we already have a meta Category:Ghost towns by country. The second category can be linked to ru:Категория:Населённые пункты России, утратившие статус города - it has a lot of content, as this is quite a common case in the USSR and Russia. Solidest (talk) 11:21, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, when a town has completely disappeared it is not a ghost town either. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:32, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, places like Samosdelka or Tiversk aren't "defunct towns" either – they were never even towns. So the category needs to be cleaned up as well. Solidest (talk) 11:41, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former cities in Russia

Propose renaming Category:Former cities in Russia to Category:Former cities and towns in Russia

Nominator's rationale: In Russia, there is no distinction between cities and towns. The inclusion criteria have long specified that the category includes both cities and towns, and it is also a subcategory of Category:Cities and towns in Russia. And almost all of the contents of the category cannot be called cities either - they are mainly towns or even smaller settlements (urban-type settlement). Solidest (talk) 11:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Although, as far as I can see, in addition to Category:Former cities, there is also Category:Former towns. At the same time, the "cities" branch is rather disorganised, and many of the articles are actually about places referred to as "former towns". Therefore, it may be reasonable to rename both branches to "cities and towns" and merge them. However, unlike the situation in Russia, I am not sure how significant the distinction between a city and a town is (in the context of becoming "former") in other countries. Therefore, I am nominating only Russia here. Solidest (talk) 12:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. You rightly noted that there is no city/town distinction on Russia. Instead, all other category/article titles, such as List of cities and towns in Russia by population must be renamed, because this "c & t" naming creates misinformation, suggesting that there are cities and towns in Russia. --Altenmann >talk 15:30, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed into what? "cities or towns"? cities? towns? I don't think this creates misinformation, since in reality some places are technically could be called cities and others are smaller towns, both words are still relevant in English. But we cannot make the distinction for each case as it would be OR. And the "cities and towns" wording is still widely used in similar cases, where the local language does not distinguish between terms. But if we had to choose, town would probably be more appropriate in this case. Solidest (talk) 19:23, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

if you are saying that it includes urban-type settlements, then the proper name is category:Former urban localities in Russia. --Altenmann >talk 21:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Urban localities" is too vague and unclear a term. It is more likely to refer specifically to "urban-type settlements" – which populated places often turn into when they lose city/town status. Therefore, it won't work. Solidest (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~If not renamed, another possibility is merging to Category:Former populated places in Russia.~~ Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I still think the correct option should be renaming. If you look at the contents of the category, the settlements there have downgraded from one status to another, they have not ceased to be populated places. Solidest (talk) 08:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ok, I see what you mean. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Sandleford, Berkshire

Propose merging Category:People from Sandleford, Berkshire to Category:People from Greenham

Nominator's rationale: merge to parent category. After renaming and purging (see earlier discussion) there are only two articles left. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom -- Just N. (talk) 09:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ambassadors of Iran to Switzerland and Liechtenstein

Propose merging Category:Ambassadors of Iran to Switzerland and Liechtenstein to Category:Ambassadors of Iran to Switzerland

Nominator's rationale: Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:44, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, we do one receiving country at a time. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:40, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom -- Just N. (talk) 09:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:European traditionalist Catholics

Propose merging Category:European traditionalist Catholics to Category:Traditionalist Catholics by nationality
Propose merging Category:North American traditionalist Catholics to Category:Traditionalist Catholics by nationality
Propose merging Category:South American traditionalist Catholics to Category:Traditionalist Catholics by nationality

Nominator's rationale: redundant category layers. there are only a handful of country categories in each one. ^SMason_Garrison 04:23, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that this is not very helpful, but we can simply move article Míne Bean Uí Chribín under Category:Traditionalist Catholics and delete the continent categories because the subcategories are already in Category:Traditionalist Catholics by nationality and the article does not belong there. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom -- Just N. (talk) 09:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Classical Wikifauna

Propose renaming Category:Classical Wikifauna to Category:Classical WikiFauna
Propose renaming Category:Medieval Wikifauna to Category:Medieval WikiFauna
Propose renaming Category:Modern Wikifauna to Category:Modern WikiFauna
Propose renaming Category:Postmodern Wikifauna to Category:Postmodern WikiFauna

Nominator's rationale: Correct capitalization as used at Wikipedia:WikiFauna. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:05, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support rename. lgtm, consistency and all that. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support for consistency Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 04:27, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support for consistency. -- Just N. (talk) 09:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 20

Category:Spring King songs

Propose deleting Category:Spring King songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category of redirects all pointing to the same article. Redundant then to Category:Spring King albums and providing no navigational benefit. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 20:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:48, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian UFO religions

Propose deleting Category:Christian UFO religions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This was done in good faith and does not have the same problems as previous categories in this manner, but still have issues. Most UFO religions adhere to some form of Christian narrative, but that is not the defining intersectiom of them, and we don't have enough that don't adhere to Christian elements for this to be worth diffusing our relatively small UFO religion category in this manner. Almost all of them incorporate Christian elements and if we are going to OR our way into saying they are Christian then we would have none that aren't in this category because almost all of the groups in this category are. This is also unnecessarily specific. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:47, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the article The Urantia Book is hardly about a UFO religion and it is not worthwhile to keep the category for the other article only. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Entertainers by populated place in Montana

Propose merging Category:Entertainers by populated place in Montana to Category:People by populated place and occupation in Montana

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sweden–Serbia relations

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete G7 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:08, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Sweden–Serbia relations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We already have Category:Serbia–Sweden relations. DB1729^talk 00:20, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I created this category by mistake, not realising it already existed. Apologies for the duplication. -Aeengath (talk) 08:08, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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June 19

Category:Fictional characters in the DC Universe (franchise)

Propose deleting Category:Fictional characters in the DC Universe (franchise) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Misleading category and WP:Overcategorization. The cat creator has made similar cats like this, so nominating in accordance with the consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 19#Category:Characters adapted in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This cat is being placed on the articles for the comic book characters because they appear or will appear in the DC Universe (franchise), but there are no articles for the characters from that franchise adaptation specifically. The category creator has previously been warned about making these cats and has clearly ignored that. Should any DCU adaptation character receive a separate article, Category:DC Universe (franchise) characters already exists. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 23:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, redundant as the articles are already in the tree of Category:DC Comics characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:24, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:35, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT. -- Just N. (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Japanese yogis

Propose merging Category:Japanese yogis to Category:Yogis
Propose merging Category:Brazilian yogis to Category:Yogis
Propose merging Category:Pakistani yogis to Category:Yogis

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated. Upmerge for now ^SMason_Garrison 22:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for now, with no objection to recreate the category when there is a handful of articles that may be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Information and Broadcasting Services ministers of Zambia

Propose renaming Category:Information and Broadcasting Services ministers of Zambia to Category:Information ministers of Zambia

Nominator's rationale: This ministry changed its name after the 2021 election. Since this is a ministry that may change its name each time we elect a new leader, I believe it should have a general name, just like Category:Transport ministers of Zambia and Category:Energy ministers of Zambia. GeographicAccountant (talk) 20:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Towns in Ukraine by classification

Propose merging Category:Towns in Ukraine by classification to Category:Populated places in Ukraine

Nominator's rationale: They are not rural settlements. Moreover, Ukrainian law does not recognize "towns" as a specific type of populated place. Hassan697 (talk) 18:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:05, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Subang

Propose deleting Category:People from Subang (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:People from Dawuan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Two people-from categories, newly created with the same single person duplicate-categorized in both of them simultaneously even though the second is already a subcategory of the first. As always, a place does not automatically get one of these just for one person -- it would be fine if there were numerous people from there to file in the category, but it doesn't aid navigation to obsessively microcategorize everything down into the narrowest possible microcategories of just one thing. So I'd be happy to withdraw this if somebody with more knowledge of Indonesia than I've got can find several other people to file here, but they're not needed just for one person. Bearcat (talk) 18:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now, with no objection to recreate the category when there is a handful of articles that may be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:30, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:21, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rachael MacFarlane albums

Propose deleting Category:Rachael MacFarlane albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Accidental misfile at DRV by IP 2600 who said Hayley Sings is her only album she's made and she hasn't done another album 13 years since. Refiling on their behalf, no opinion on merit. Star Mississippi 14:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be consensus to keep every Albums by artist category even with only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:34, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
but she only has one album. There is no point to have the category if she has just the one album in this category after almost 13 years 2600:8801:8E:9900:F5DC:FFCA:9970:9220 (talk) 18:03, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Personally I agree with you, to me it would (also) make more sense to merge 1-article albums categories to more general categories by genre, nationality or language. But there are tons of these 1-article albums categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per precedent. I find it much easier to scroll through a genre/nationality set of categories (e.g. Category:Jazz albums by English artists) by one's name to find new interesting readings than I would if there were a few dozen miscellaneous random articles in them. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Performing arts companies established in 2004

Propose deleting Category:Performing arts companies established in 2004 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT This is the only year subcategory in Category:Performing arts companies by year of establishment and contains only 4 articles. Gjs238 (talk) 13:27, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably merge to Category:Entertainment companies established in 2004 and Category:Performing arts companies, rather than straight delete, right? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, merge to parent categories. Gjs238 (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to parent categories per Marcocapelle. -- Just N. (talk) 16:32, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former AT&T subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former AT&T subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:38, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:AT&T subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:35, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former PepsiCo subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former PepsiCo subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:37, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:PepsiCo subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former Rio Tinto (corporation) subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former Rio Tinto (corporation) subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Rio Tinto (corporation) subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former CBS Corporation subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former CBS Corporation subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:CBS Corporation subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former Paramount Global subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former Paramount Global subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Paramount Global subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former General Motors subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former General Motors subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:General Motors subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former TelevisaUnivision subsidiaries

Propose deleting Category:Former TelevisaUnivision subsidiaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF; per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 23#Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:TelevisaUnivision subsidiaries ... being former or current is a temporal issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are/were subsidiaries, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. The subsidiaries categories should be atemporal, with the articles explaining the circumstances of being subsidiaries -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Beauty pageant contestants from Regina, Saskatchewan

Propose merging Category:Beauty pageant contestants from Regina, Saskatchewan to Category:People from Regina, Saskatchewan

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support/Additional Merge Support but Camille Munro should also be merged to Category:Canadian beauty pageant contestants. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Volleyball players from Ehime Prefecture

Propose merging Category:Volleyball players from Ehime Prefecture to Category:Sportspeople from Ehime Prefecture

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:45, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose, this would leave a gap in Category:Volleyball players by prefecture in Japan. Rather upmerge the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose is a valid container category for Category:Volleyball players from Matsuyama, Ehime, which is substantially populated. Inter&anthro (talk) 12:41, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Volleyball players from Aomori (city)

Propose merging Category:Volleyball players from Aomori (city) to Category:Sportspeople from Aomori (city)

Nominator's rationale: Also merge to Category:Volleyball players from Aomori Prefecture. Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably also merge to Category:Volleyball players from Aomori Prefecture, right? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Double per M. -- Just N. (talk) 16:09, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Kiyosu

Propose merging Category:People from Kiyosu to Category:People from Aichi Prefecture

Nominator's rationale: Category with just three entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 08:10, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Three entries is not bad. The Japanese language article for the town has a list of over 18 people with Japanese Wikipedia pages from that place, about handful of them have articles in English Wikipedia. There is potential for growth, WP:SMALLCAT & WP:NARROWCAT do not apply here. Inter&anthro (talk) 12:52, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Little chance that lots of articles will be translated soon. -- Just N. (talk) 16:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indexes

Propose renaming Category:Indexes to Category:Indexes (publishing)

Nominator's rationale: Rename to better describe the actual scope; Index is a dab page. Then create a disambiguation page at Category:Indexes and move articles actually about Index (statistics) to Category:Index numbers (currently up for speedy renaming) instead. This is currently contributing to several loops at User:SDZeroBot/Category cycles/6 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:21, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, also per article name Index (publishing). Marcocapelle (talk) 20:01, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename, also per article name Index (publishing). -- Just N. (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sumo wrestlers who died while active

Propose merging Category:Sumo wrestlers who died while active to Category:Sumo wrestlers

Nominator's rationale: Vague, and possibly undefining ^SMason_Garrison 04:38, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific? At first glance, I have the opposite impression that the category allows you to take into account elements present in the article, which makes its referencing more precise. - OtharLuin (talk) 13:33, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete rather than merge, since the articles are already in Category:Sumo people by prefecture in Japan. We have categories for military personnel who died in battle, but in this case death and occupation aren't interrelated. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per M. -- Just N. (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Judoka people by prefecture in Japan

Propose merging Category:Judoka people by prefecture in Japan to Category:Japanese judoka

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer ^SMason_Garrison 04:34, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 08:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Better nominate the subcategory too. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:07, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:14, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Intercontinental relations

Propose deleting Category:Intercontinental relations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Africa and other continents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Africa and Europe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Africa and South America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Asia and other continents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Asia and North America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Europe and other continents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Europe and North America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:North America and other continents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:South America and other continents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Intercontinental sports (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale Misbegotten tree, forming unavoidable category loops of the form "Africa -> Foreign relations of Africa -> Africa and other continents -> Afro-Asia -> Africa". More generally these are too loosely related and/or contain too little content to support a category, and invert the standard categorization logic by making broad topics subcats of narrower ones. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This seems, generally speaking, to be the right way to make such categories. It is similar to the logic behind categories for relations between countries i.e. (skipping a few intermediate steps) "Country A -> Foreign relations of Country A -> Bilateral relations of Country A -> Country A–Country B relations". In the cases where there is a category loop or too little content, it may be possible to fix those through editing rather than deletion. GreekApple123 (talk) 13:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, "Eurasia" is a thing, but other than that the categories mainly contains relations between countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There are many forums of international relations between countries and peoples located on various continents. However, organizing them by continent is only one out of many ways to describe and/or sort these relations, and a rather arbitray one. Place Clichy (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Character pop

Propose renaming of Category:Character pop, a tracking category, to Category:Pages in mainspace with infobox comics character

Nominator's Rationale: Character pop is not a very descriptive title, and the code in template:infobox comics character which populates this category checks only that it's not in other namespaces (this would have to also mean the editing of the template)User:D Kirlston - talk 02:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or fix name. "Pages in mainspace" is not the usual wording. "Articles" should be used instead. I question whether this category should even exist, however. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:09, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless a purpose of tracking this can be identified. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per M. -- Just N. (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Yikhüm

Propose deleting Category:Yikhüm (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category should be deleted per WP:SMALLCAT, since there's only 1 page and there doesn't seem to be much potential in regards to expanding it... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 02:09, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:C2F, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 16:24, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American television chefs

Propose splitting Category:American television chefs to Category:Television chefs on American television and Category:American television chefs

Nominator's rationale: I think we need to distinguish between American (nationals) and Chefs on American television. ^SMason_Garrison 01:11, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, the proposal will lead to largely overlapping categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:20, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Marcocapelle's hint. -- Just N. (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Afghan ophthalmologists

Propose merging Category:Afghan ophthalmologists to Category:Ophthalmologists

Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with Category:Afghan physicians.

Also nominating for merge:

June 18

Category:People on stamps

Propose renaming Category:People on stamps to Category:Stamps featuring people
Propose renaming Category:Elizabeth II on stamps to Category:Stamps featuring Elizabeth II
Propose renaming Category:Queen Victoria on stamps to Category:Stamps featuring Queen Victoria

Nominator's rationale: These categories contain primarily articles on stamps, not articles on people. This reinstates the consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 February 12#Category:People on postage stamps, which was undone by Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_21#"(Artworks/Art)_depicting_(subject)" without sufficient consideration. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:CATNAME. This is just truth in advertising to reflect the actual contents. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:23, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should this be applied across the Category:Topical postage stamps tree (i.e., not only to people), and should it be "postage stamps" rather than just "stamps" for more consistency with Postage stamp, Category:Postage stamps, etc.? So:
Ham II (talk) 13:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That would make perfect sense. In hindsight I also agree with "postage stamps" rather than "stamps". Marcocapelle (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I would agree with this approach too. (And adding "Postage" also makes sense.) RevelationDirect (talk) 11:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brazilian politicians of African descent

Propose renaming Category:Brazilian politicians of African descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Afro-Brazilian politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Afro-Brazilian people tree and children of Category:Politicians of African descent. --MikutoH ^talk! 22:25, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Shinshiro, Aichi

Propose merging Category:People from Shinshiro, Aichi to Category:People from Aichi Prefecture

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, the two articles are already in an occupation subcat of Category:People from Aichi Prefecture. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:25, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Andy Roddick tennis matches

Propose merging Category:Andy Roddick tennis matches to Category:Andy Roddick

Nominator's rationale: Only one article and unlikely get bigger. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 18:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People with multiple citizenship

Propose deleting Category:People with multiple citizenship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: I believe this category might be Wikipedia:Overcategorization. I was going to go and add a bunch of articles to the category but there is an absurd amount of pages for people with multiple citizenship. Running this sparql query:

SELECT ?person ?personLabel ?citizenship1 ?citizenship2
WHERE {
  ?person wdt:P31 wd:Q5.
  ?person wdt:P27 ?citizenship1.
  ?person wdt:P27 ?citizenship2.
  FILTER(?citizenship1 != ?citizenship2)
}
LIMIT 50000

Shows there is at least 50,000 pages that could be put into the category. For most of these I don't think having multiple citizenship is a defining characteristic. The current articles in the category is a mixed bag of articles that have very little in common. D1551D3N7 (talk) 11:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, in many cases we would not even know if someone would have multiple citizenship. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Real Book Song

Propose renaming Category:Real Book Song to Category:Compositions in the Real Book

Nominator's rationale: The category has recently survived a CfD request as keep but it is deficient in several respects:

It is not written in sentence case: (Real Book) is the name of a publication so capitalized
Not every composition in the Real Book has words, so "song" is ambivalent
Plural description is more appropriate for categories containing multiple members

@Graham87: Doug butler (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom; thanks for that. Graham87 (talk) 08:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree. -- Real Book song would be preferable. It's much shorter and accurate than Compositions in the Real Book. There is no requirement for a song to have words. The Real Book does not include lyrics. Most of the performances that rely on the Real Book are instrumental. I'm sorry I didn't know about the sentence case requirement when I created the category.Trumpetrep (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Falkirk

Propose renaming Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Falkirk to Category:Deaths at the Battle of Falkirk

Nominator's rationale: There's no need to limit this to Scottish people. (I'm not opposed to deletion, but at the very least I think that category needs to be renamed) ^SMason_Garrison 02:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Dupplin Moor to Category:deaths at the Battle of Dupplin Moor
Propose renaming Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Halidon Hill to Category:deaths at the Battle of Halidon Hill
Propose renaming Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Neville's Cross to Category:deaths at the Battle of Neville's Cross
Propose renaming Category:Scottish deaths at the Battle of Halidon Hill to Category:deaths at the Battle of Halidon Hill

@Marcocapelle and PatGallacher: added to nom ^SMason_Garrison 20:20, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:Scottish pre-union military personnel killed in action. In other nationality trees there is only diffusion by war, not by individual battle. @Smasongarrison: multiple Scottish sibling categories can be added to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Firstly, not aware of any notable English people killed at the Battle of Falkirk, if you know of any please mention it. Secondly, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Maybe we should have other articles on deaths by individual battle? Also, deleting all "Deaths by individual battle" articles is a fairly drastic step, needs serious discussion. PatGallacher (talk) 13:13, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is a misunderstanding here. This is not about deletion of any articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PatGallacher This is about the category, not the pages in the category. Categorization as a general rule of thumb tries to avoid intersections. There's no need to limit the category to *only* Scottish people, even if the category only contains Scottish people. I'll add the other categories to the nomination in a bit. Good catch. Marco ^SMason_Garrison 20:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I still think merging is better than renaming, as it keeps the articles in the tree of Category:Scottish pre-union military personnel killed in action. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 10:34, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from Parkersburg, West Virginia

Propose merging Category:Physicians from Parkersburg, West Virginia to Category:Scientists from Parkersburg, West Virginia

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Also merge to Category:Physicians from West Virginia Also propose merging-

Categories with three or less entries.Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:49, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from Parkersburg, West Virginia now has four articles. What is the Wikipedia guidance on mandatory minimums for categories? — West Virginian (talk) 00:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from Charleston, West Virginia now has four articles. Any Wikipedia guidance you could provide regarding category mandatory minimums would be helpful. — West Virginian (talk) 00:23, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@West Virginian: Background: WP:NARROWCAT doesn't have any formal cutoff. And proposals to establish a numeric threshold for an earlier editing guideline never reached consensus, see here. The essay WP:MFN discusses the pros and cons of doing so at some length. Hope that ancient history helps!

Oh, and thanks you for populating 2 of the 4 nominated categories. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge 2 Charles Town Cats per the 2nd half of the nom and WP:NARROWCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Appears to me to be an arbitrary distinction. — Qwerfjkl talk 15:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of festivals by region

Propose deleting Category:Lists of festivals by region

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory which isn't even exactly about regions anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This category now has significantly more members. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:19, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With the new content the category should be renamed to Category:Lists of festivals by first-level administrative country subdivision similar to its subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Philosophers by X subfield and Y nationality

Propose merging Category:Philosophers by X subfield and Y nationality to Category:Philosophers of X subfield

List of Nominations

Propose deleting Category:Political philosophers by nationality
Propose deleting Category:Arab political philosophers
Propose merging Category:English philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:French political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of logic to Category:Philosophers of logic
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of logic to Category:Philosophers of logic
Propose merging Category:Brazilian positivists to Category:Positivists
Propose merging Category:Scottish political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:English philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:Greek political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:German political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Dutch political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Czech political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Canadian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:British political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:English political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Belgian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Austrian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Australian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Armenian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Argentine political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Lebanese political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Libyan political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Syrian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:American political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of law to Category:Philosophers of law
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of law to Category:Philosophers of law
Propose merging Category:Hungarian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Indian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Iranian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Irish political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Israeli political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Italian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Libyan political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Montenegrin political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:New Zealand political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Norwegian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Pakistani political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Polish political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Romanian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Russian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Serbian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Slovenian political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:South African political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Spanish political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:Swiss political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of law to Category:Philosophers of law
Propose merging Category:Chinese political philosophers to Category:Political philosophers
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of history to Category:Philosophers of history
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of history to Category:Philosophers of history
Propose merging Category:American social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:Australian social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:British social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of culture to Category:Philosophers of culture
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of education to Category:Philosophers of education
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of technology to Category:Philosophers of technology
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of education to Category:Philosophers of education
Propose merging Category:Canadian social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of culture to Category:Philosophers of culture
Propose merging Category:French social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:German social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of culture to Category:Philosophers of culture
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of education to Category:Philosophers of education
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of technology to Category:Philosophers of technology
Propose merging Category:Italian social philosophers to Category:Social philosophers
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of technology to Category:Philosophers of technology
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of education to Category:Philosophers of education
Propose merging Category:Italian philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:Canadian philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:Austrian philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:Australian philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of social science to Category:Philosophers of social science
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of science to Category:Philosophers of science
Propose merging Category:Russian philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:Japanese philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:Italian philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:Canadian philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of religion to Category:Philosophers of religion
Propose merging Category:Romanian philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:Italian philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:Australian philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of art to Category:Philosophers of art
Propose merging Category:American epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:Australian epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:Austrian epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:British epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:Canadian epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:French epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:German epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:Italian epistemologists to Category:Epistemologists
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:Australian philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:Austrian philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:English philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of language to Category:Philosophers of language
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of mathematics to Category:Philosophers of mathematics
Propose merging Category:German metaphysicians to Category:Metaphysicians
Propose merging Category:French metaphysicians to Category:Metaphysicians
Propose merging Category:British metaphysicians to Category:Metaphysicians
Propose merging Category:Australian metaphysicians to Category:Metaphysicians
Propose merging Category:American metaphysicians to Category:Metaphysicians
Propose merging Category:German philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind
Propose merging Category:French philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind
Propose merging Category:Canadian philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind
Propose merging Category:British philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind
Propose merging Category:Australian philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind
Propose merging Category:American philosophers of mind to Category:Philosophers of mind

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCLOCATION, not a useful distinguishing trait for philosophy subspecialities, because philosophy is internationally collaborative Psychastes (talk) 17:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Category:Ethicists and Category:Logicians and the associated subcategories have been deliberately excluded because those can be considered an "occupation" in addition to a subfield of philosophy. Psychastes (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I suspect that these were created to "split" categories that had become too large. However, I wish that the editors who made these would exercise more discretion doing this in the future, because in this scenario, splitting the category by such a trivial distinction has only made it *more* difficult to determine which pages need diffusion to a category that actually tells us anything useful. Psychastes (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Virtually all of these parent categories also need to be purged, as a result of a persistent vandal who spent the last seven years adding a bunch of ridiculous, inaccurate, and vague categories to philosopher articles. Most of them probably won't be overpopulated when the disruptive WP:OVERCAT is fully purged. I am nominating these all now because I *will* likely inadvertently empty several of them cleaning up this mess. Psychastes (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A dual merge to subcategories of Category:Philosophers by nationality is also almost certainly a bad idea, because the vast majority of these pages are also categorized by Category:Philosophers by nationality and century Psychastes (talk) 18:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. "Location is defining in its own right" is not the only legitimate grounds for location subcategories — even WP:OCLOCATION explicitly states that location can be used to diffuse an overly-large parent category. These category trees each have thousands of articles across each set of siblings — but that's far, far too large to be useful as one single undifferentiated megacategory, which is precisely why they're diffused by nationality.
Additionally, OCLOCATION doesn't even preclude subcategorizing things by nationality in the first place — it only speaks to whether Category:American political philosophers would need to be subbed out for state or city, such as "Political philosophers from Missouri" or "Political philosophers from Chicago", and says absolutely nothing whatsoever to tamp down the legitimacy of the basic country level of categorization, so it doesn't even suggest what the nominator is claiming it suggests in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please reconsider, this is genuinely making it more difficult to actually categorize these philosophers correctly. there is no meaningful distinction between an "australian" and an "american" and a "british" philosopher of mind, having them all siloed by country just makes the encyclopedia harder to use. Psychastes (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not making anything more difficult at all. It makes the category system easier to navigate and maintain when the categories are small and manageable rather than being unbrowsably massive. And nationality is a useful grouping when it comes to this: for instance, I can absolutely be looking specifically for Canadian political philosophers, and thus need to find George Grant and John Ralston Saul and Charles Taylor and Naomi Klein and George Woodcock, without needing to be distracted by Hannah Arendt or Edmund Burke or W.E.B. DuBois, because I can absolutely have a need to specifically research Canadian political literature rather than the entire worldwide history of political thought. If and when I do need to see other political philosophers from other countries, I can easily navigate my way to that other country's category — but I can absolutely have a need to research and delve into one specific country's literary and intellectual tradition on its own, which I can't do if all political philosophers are grouped together into one unbrowsably massive megacategory instead of country-specific subcategories. Bearcat (talk) 19:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also please see my comment about WP:OVERCAT - none of these categories have "thousands" of articles diffused across them to begin with, and most of the categorizations are spurious, but I don't think a single one crosses 1000 even ignoring that. Psychastes (talk) 19:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly don't misquote me. I didn't say that any one of these categories has over a thousand articles in it individually — I said that the trees have over a thousand articles under them collectively. If you upmerged all of the "political philosophers" categories here to Category:Political philosophers without differentiation, for instance, then that category would have over a thousand articles in it, because the number of articles collectively filed across all of the subcategories adds up to over a thousand articles — the fact that the country-level categories exist to subdivide the parent category is the reason why the categories are individually smaller, not any sort of contradiction to what I said. Bearcat (talk) 19:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also it strains credulity to suggest that anyone using the encyclopedia cares about whether a political philosopher is specifically from Missouri, please do not make categories like this Psychastes (talk) 19:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which is precisely what OCLOCATION says, because it's what OCLOCATION is about. That's precisely the point I was trying to make: that OCLOCATION militates against that, and does not militate against this. OCLOCATION says we shouldn't subdivide a country-level category into state-level or city-level categories willy-nilly, and does not say that we can't subdivide anything into country-level categories in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 19:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, it is not fully international per se, it is very well imaginable that e.g. French or German philosophers know much better what is written in their own language and build further on that. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cui Jian

Propose deleting Category:Cui Jian

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. Minimal content to have an eponymous category; subcats sufficiently link to and from one another. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added more content to this category. SKBNK (talk) 09:53, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, then I am striking my support below. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:54, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the albums and songs subcategories already link to each other directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I think this category already has sufficient content. SKBNK (talk) 03:22, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I concur there is now sufficient content here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I'm not super familiar with the category guidelines, but looking at this now it seems reasonably full. Toadspike [Talk] 23:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Clio Award winners

Propose Deleting Category:Clio Awards

Propose Deleting Category:Clio Award winners

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCASSOC, WP:OCAWARD and, for the parent category, WP:NARROWCAT

The Clio Awards are an advertising industry award and might be defining for articles actually about specific TV commercials or other advertising campaigns. The problem is that this category is a jumble of different types of articles with varying associations to the topic including major companies that sponsor commercials (Volkswagen & Quaker Oats Company), a product that the commercials advertise (Alka-Seltzer), various people in a variety of professions involved with creating commercials (director Meiert Avis, voice over artist Alan Bleviss, actress Rosemary Rice, graphic designer Georg Olden, agency executive Stan Freberg), advertising agencies (FCB, McCann), and just three actual commercials (Little Mikey, Aaron Burr advertisment, Cat Herders). No objection to recreating a more narrow category for that last group after a clear list is created in the main article.

Without the subcategory, the parent will only have 2 articles with little growth potential. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:25, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. It's a notable award, and readers are likely to want to find winners through category navigation. I see no problem with the current structure.4meter4 (talk) 02:59, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue isn't the award but who counts as a winner beyond the commercial itself. The main article unfortunately doesn't list winners, but it looks like a the whole team goes to accept a single award on behalf of the winning commercial. Those professionals then likely add receiving a Clio to their resume (which is true in a literal sense); the Wikipedia sourcing then relies largely on uncritical obituaries. The Clios don't even seem to mind this fluid definition of who is a winner since they will sell you duplicate trophies for team building, but that sure doesn't seem encyclopedic. RevelationDirect (talk) 11:13, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Award winners are typically included in a list section in the article about the award. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:OCAWARD. -- Just N. (talk) 10:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:São Paulo

Propose renaming Category:São Paulo to Category:São Paulo (city)

Nominator's rationale: Following most recent consensus: Wikipedia:Categories for_discussion/Log/2018_January 15#Category:Rio_de Janeiro. Last one was from 2016. Ninixed (talk) 02:56, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, this is one of the few exceptions in which deviating from the article name actually helps navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom.

Category:Anticonvulsant stubs

Propose merging Category:Anticonvulsant stubs to Category:Nervous system drug stubs

Nominator's rationale: This stub category has less than 60 mainspace articles in it - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 02:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose all, as it is best for stub templates and categories to be as specific as possible. Element10101 AIW WPI TOLT ~ C 21:00, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Proslavery activists

Option A

Propose renaming Category:Proslavery activists to Category:Defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:American proslavery activists to Category:American defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:British proslavery activists to Category: British defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:English proslavery activists to Category:English defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:Scottish proslavery activists to Category:Scottish defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:French proslavery activists to Category:French defenders of slavery
Propose renaming Category:Irish proslavery activists to Category:Irish defenders of slavery

Nominator's rationale: rename aligning with the category description on the category pages. Most people in these categories were not an activist.

Option B: delete all per WP:OPINIONCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Purge to activists only. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a midway between option A and B, is also fine. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:29, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Television series about serial killers categories

Propose renaming Category:Television series about fictional serial killers to Category:Television series about serial killers
Propose renaming Category:Television series about serial killers to Category:Television series about real serial killers

Nominator's rationale: The television series contained within Category:Television series about fictional serial killers outnumber the series contained in the main Television series about serial killers category, evidencing that there are more television series about fictional serial killers than real ones. The shows in question are not defined by being about fictional serial killers. It would be more helpful, per WP:NONDEFINING, to diffuse the category in the inverse direction. As such I propose that the articles contained in Category:Television series about serial killers be recategorized to Category:Television series about real serial killers, while Category:Television series about fictional serial killers should be moved to Category:Television series about serial killers, and then Category:Television series about real serial killers should be made a subcategory of Category:Television series about serial killers.

Additionally, this would be consistent with the convention used within Category:Serial killer films, which has Category:Films about real serial killers as a subcategory.

See also the related nomination for Category:Works about fictional serial killers. silviaASH (inquire within) 21:18, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Motile cells

Propose merging Category:Motile cells to Category:Cell movement

Nominator's rationale: Motile is a synonym of "having movement". 174.138.213.2 (talk) 00:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is it worthwhile to distinguish these as "Motile cells" being a set category and "cell movement" being a topic category? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Pppery. They are definitely related topics. The set of specific cells is a subcat of Category:Cells by function whereas the (bio)phyics of movement is a subcat of Category:Action (physics), and neither of those two seem like a clear subcat of the other's parent topic. However, I'm surprised they don't currently specify a link to each other in some way. DMacks (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Motile cells is now a subcategory of Cell movement. (Added after relisting.) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Executioners by nationality

Propose merging Category:Canadian executioners (2 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Canada
Propose merging Category:Czech executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners
Propose merging Category:Danish executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners
Propose merging Category:Irish executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners
Propose merging Category:Norwegian executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners
Propose merging Category:Polish executioners (2 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Poland
Propose merging Category:Ancient Roman executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in ancient Rome
Propose merging Category:Russian executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Russia
Propose merging Category:Saudi Arabian executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Saudi Arabia
Propose merging Category:Singaporean executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Singapore
Propose merging Category:Spanish executioners (1 P) to Category:Executioners and Category:Capital punishment in Spain
Propose merging Category:Swedish executioners (2 P) to Category:Executioners

Nominator's rationale: merge, only one of two articles in each of these categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge per WP:MFN. NLeeuw (talk) 01:02, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~. A valid subcategorisation by occupation and nationality; merging as proposed will remove the categories from the people by nationality tree. If merging is desired, alternative occupation categories should be identified as the target. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no rule that says that every biography must be in the tree of Category:People by occupation and nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:19, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia has no firm rules anyway, but it's still widely established common practice. At least also upmerge to Category:Canadian people, etc. (and hope that someone will come along to move them into appropriate subcategories), so the articles aren't lost from the nationality trees. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:22, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - The articles aren't lost from the nationality trees because they are categorized by e.g. populated place or by nationality and century. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - The second article I checked wasn't, but I see that you've added categories there, so thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:12, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing my !vote to weak oppose, now that the articles are presumably under the diffused nationality trees. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:05, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Early colonists in America

Propose merging Category:Early colonists in America to Category:17th-century American people

Nominator's rationale: merge, "early" is quite vague and in practice this category has been populated with 17th-century people, which makes the two categories coincide in purpose. One may wonder if the name of the target is well chosen, but let's leave that for a different discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lampriformes stubs

Propose merging Category:Lampriformes stubs to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Lampriformes; there are only 30 mainspace articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Four categories are being proposed for merger into the parent category. Any one of them would be fine, but any combination of two would trip the parent over 200 articles in the category. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Single merge to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Lampriformes. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Galaxiidae stubs

Propose merging Category:Galaxiidae stubs to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Galaxiidae; there are only 38 articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:29, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Four categories are being proposed for merger into the parent category. Any one of them would be fine, but any combination of two would trip the parent over 200 articles in the category. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If merged then single merge to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Galaxiidae. I wouldn't object to keeping the category for the time being, there are still 39 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Osmeriformes stubs

Propose merging Category:Osmeriformes stubs to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Osmeriformes, as there are only 26 articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Four categories are being proposed for merger into the parent category. Any one of them would be fine, but any combination of two would trip the parent over 200 articles in the category. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Single merge to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Osmeriformes. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Synbranchiformes stubs

Propose merging Category:Synbranchiformes stubs to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Synbranchiformes; there are less than 60 mainspace articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Four categories are being proposed for merger into the parent category. Any one of them would be fine, but any combination of two would trip the parent over 200 articles in the category. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Single merge to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Synbranchiformes. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chaetodontidae stubs

Propose merging Category:Chaetodontidae stubs to Category:Acanthuriformes stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Chaetodontidae; there are less than 60 mainspace articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If merged then single merge to Category:Acanthuriformes stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Chaetodontidae. I wouldn't object to keeping the category for the time being, there are still 42 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:38, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as there are plenty of stubs in the cat. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Batrachoidiformes stubs

Propose merging Category:Batrachoidiformes stubs to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Batrachoididae, as there are less than 60 articles in this category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If merged then single merge to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Batrachoididae. I wouldn't object to keeping the category for the time being, there are still 40 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as there are plenty of stubs in the cat. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:25, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per UtherSRG. -- Just N. (talk) 10:48, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tilapiini stubs

Propose merging Category:Tilapiini stubs to Category:Pseudocrenilabrinae stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Tilapiini; there are less than 60 mainspace articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 21:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If merged then single merge to Category:Pseudocrenilabrinae stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Tilapiini. I wouldn't object to keeping the category for the time being, there are still 51 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per M. -- Just N. (talk) 10:50, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alkene stubs

Propose merging Category:Alkene stubs to Category:Organic compound stubs

Nominator's rationale: Should also be merged into Alkenes; there are less than 60 articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 22:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If merged then single merge to Category:Organic compound stubs. The articles are already in the tree of Alkenes. I wouldn't object to keeping the category for the time being, there are still 45 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per M. -- Just N. (talk) 10:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish-American gangs

Propose merging Category:Jewish-American gangs to Category:Jewish-American organized crime

Nominator's rationale: Functionally the same as Category:Jewish-American organized crime, which is associated with the topic's main article Jewish-American organized crime and includes coverage of gangs (including subcat Category: Jewish American gangsters]] Longhornsg (talk) 00:55, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do not change Looking at the gang parent categories and the organized crime parent categories finds they are different in general, and the Jewish categories are no different than the rest of ethnic categories here. Looking at the child categories and articles here just confirms this. No special treatment is warranted here. Hmains (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is "special treatment"? How are the two categories different? Longhornsg (talk) 02:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the special treatment is that it would then fit into the current gang parent category: Category:European-American gangs and its parents. This is about gangs and it belongs into the gangs category tree. Thanks Hmains (talk) 00:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it be merged to Category:Jewish-American organized crime groups instead? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- It is already a subcat of Category:Jewish-American organized crime groups, which is where it belongs. Merging will just result in a larger category of disparate subject matter. Not a navigation help. Hmains (talk) 23:58, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - How disparate is it? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Category:Jewish-American organized crime groups one way or the other; the articles in the "organized crime groups" category largely describe themselves as gangs so there is no distinction. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:46, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Jewish-American organized crime groups. -- Just N. (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Athletes by country subdivision

Propose deleting Category:Athletes by country subdivision

Nominator's rationale: Unneeded one-item category * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I found two other subcategories. But diffusion of athletics by populated place is far more common than by country subdivision, so I am not voting to keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile there are four in total. Maybe keep it after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a duplicate of the better named and older Category:Competitors in athletics by country subdivision, so it should be merged there. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:32, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding the other one. Of course they should be merged. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam weapons

Propose deleting Category:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam weapons

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Created by an editor indiscriminately creating categories to make a point. Obi2canibe (talk) 13:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The LTTE is known for building a large number of indigenous weapons and munitions. There are already several articles and the protentional for more. ÆthelflædofMercia (talk) 14:19, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If not kept, merge to parent categories instead of delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No objection to WP:UPMERGE.--Obi2canibe (talk) 13:43, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. ÆthelflædofMercia (talk) 14:31, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If not kept, merge to parent categories per Marcocapelle. NLeeuw (talk) 17:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Upmerge for Now But open minded to recreation if the number of articles grows substantially. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Karnali Province politician stubs

Propose merging Category:Karnali Province politician stubs to Category:Nepalese politician stubs

Nominator's rationale: This stub category has less than 60 mainspace articles - OpalYosutebito 『talk』『articles I want to eat』 22:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not very necessary to merge, the category is now at 41 and may easily grow back to 60. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 10:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Judaic studies

Propose renaming Category:Judaic studies to Category:Jewish studies

Nominator's rationale: Match the main article Jewish studies. Jewish studies, not Judaic studies, is the preferred academic name for this field, see for example UCL Institute of Jewish Studies, British Association for Jewish Studies, AAJR uses "Jewish studies", Association for Jewish Studies, World Congress of Jewish Studies. Longhornsg (talk) 08:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment if decided, then its subcategories must be renamed as well. --Altenmann >talk 16:20, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Longhornsg (talk) 16:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Longhornsg: that means you need to list and tag those subcategories as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:46, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Struthio

Propose merging Category:Struthio to Category:Ostriches

Nominator's rationale: I have no idea what is the difference between struthio and ostriches and which way to merge, but now the categorization is absolutely random. --Altenmann >talk 09:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or reverse merge per nom. Normally I would say the main article name is leading for the merge direction, but in taxonomy of animals that may be different. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Forward merge; I don't see a good reason to deviate from the main article. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand

Propose merging Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand to Category:Research institutes in New Zealand

Nominator's rationale: As there are 4 "Public Research Organisations" in New Zealand, the category will at most contain 4 articles plus 1 eponymous one, only 2 of which currently exist. Gjs238 (talk) 22:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about the discussion @Gjs238. I'm not wedded to having the category but I made it because we have one for Crown Research Institutes, which are being replaced by PROs. The research institutes category contains a number of different types of organisation - individual labs, institutes at universities, CRIs and PROs, which I think is quite messy and difficult to navigate if you don't already know what these things are (there's also a lot of existing and historical orgs with Wp pages missing from the category, which I've put on my to do list to address). So having a subcat for the things we can cleanly delineate (like CRIs and PROs) made sense to me.

Also noting that three PROs currently exist - the third is being rebranded from a reorganised Institute of Environmental Science and Research. I hadn't added the category to that page yet as I was hoping for more info to come out that would help me decide if it should be dealt with as a section on the existing page, or if the reorganisation is drastic enough to merit a new organisational page (I've added the cat now, though, for what it's worth). We know at the moment that this current government plans four PROs but there is no reason to suspect that the number wouldn't change in the future.

I don't hang out in category discussions much so will leave the decision up to you, but thought these considerations might be useful. For future reference, what's the minimum number of pages for a viable category? DrThneed (talk) 23:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, also because there is only one realistic merge target. If there would be multiple merge targets I would be somewhat more hesitant as merging then adds a little to the category clutter in an article. But that is not the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: any thoughts about Nurg's alternative, proposed after this orginal !vote of yours? DMacks (talk) 12:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative idea. A better idea might be to merge Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand and Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand together in a new category. I haven't thought of a suitable name for the new category though. Any thoughts DrThneed? Nurg (talk) 08:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I like that idea @Nurg, it would keep like things together and would have the added advantage that we can get DSIR (the precursor to both CRIs and PROs) into the same category. How about "State-owned research organisations in New Zealand"? There might be some other historical orgs that would belong in there too, I'll have a look when I get a chance. DrThneed (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Category:State-owned research organisations in New Zealand would be fine. Nurg (talk) 10:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They would both just be upmerged to their parent category Category:Research institutes in New Zealand

Gjs238 (talk) 23:02, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By "both" do you mean Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand and Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand? What do you mean by "would" – would under what circumstances? Nurg (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than create another new category Category:State-owned research organisations in New Zealand upmerge to the existing parent category Category:Research institutes in New Zealand

Gjs238 (talk) 13:16, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are you just reiterating your original proposal? Nurg (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems more like an extension of the original proposal if @Gjs238 is also proposing we should not have a category for Crown Research Institutes. I wouldn't be in favour of that and haven't seen any rationale for it. DrThneed (talk) 07:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand is not tagged. If you want to do that merge you would need to tag it. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:07, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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In Category:Research institutes in New Zealand are Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand and Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand.

If I understand correctly from Crown Research Institute, Crown Research Institutes are soon to become Public Research Organisations.

If correct, perhaps it is best to wait for this change, then merge Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand into Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand.

Gjs238 (talk) 12:57, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you merge them, what are you calling the category? The pages will not all be Crown Research Institutes or all Public Research Organisations but a mixture, so neither name works. (@Nurg and I already discussed this above and came up with a suggestion if you'd like to refer to that?) DrThneed (talk) 02:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If Category:Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand contains articles about Crown Research Institutes of New Zealand...

and Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand contains articles about Public Research Organisations in New Zealand...

and the former are soon to be renamed the latter...

then should we not be left with 1 category, Category:Public Research Organisations in New Zealand containing articles about Public Research Organisations in New Zealand? Gjs238 (talk) 23:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:State elections

Propose renaming Category:State elections to Category:Elections in country subdivisions

Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with parent Category:Politics of country subdivisions, a more general name because not in every country a subdivision is called "state". Marcocapelle (talk) 14:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - an interesting proposal. To me the word subdivision does not only mean state, it can mean anything on a local level. I think state elections refer to Category:State politics. Moondragon21 (talk) 16:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I think subdivisions include a lot more than just "States", so the separation is valid. -Samoht27 (talk) 16:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am in favor of creating a separate category -Samoht27 (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So am I. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A new category is a good idea. Perhaps Category:Elections in country subdivisions could include Category:Local and municipal elections and Category:State elections. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support unless there are a specific reason to keeps states aside. To categorise by name of subdivision borders WP:SHAREDNAME and I suppose legislative power varies around the world. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename as originally nominated per Kaffet i halsen. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. Aren't big church, union or sports associations councils also elections by country subdivisions? The only legitimate contents of such a category are indeed state subdivisions (e.g. Counties, Cities, sub States like California). -- Just N. (talk) 09:53, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Justus Nussbaum: no, church, union or sports associations councils aren't also country subdivisions. Proper country subdivisions are states (e.g. US, Germany), provinces (e.g. China, Netherlands), prefectures (Japan), etc. Why would we need to take states apart from provinces and prefectures? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Czech Renaissance humanists

Propose renaming Category:Czech Renaissance humanists to Category:Renaissance humanists from Bohemia

Nominator's rationale: rename, consistent with Category:16th-century Czech people and Category:17th-century Czech people redirecting to Category:16th-century people from Bohemia and Category:17th-century people from Bohemia. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about that: most people of today won't even know the notion Bohemia (except specialist historians) but will know Czechia. Facts: Bohemia is indeed "the westernmost and largest historical region of the Czech Republic. Bohemia can also refer to a wider area consisting of the historical Lands of the Bohemian Crown ruled by the Bohemian kings, including Moravia and Czech Silesia," Do we edit Wikipedia categories for ordinary peoples' use and understanding or for historian specialists? Not so easy to decide. -- Just N. (talk) 12:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We also have Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies, that is not any more or less for historian specialists than People from Bohemia. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The current name is consistent with the parent Category:Czech Renaissance and with other subcategories of Category:Renaissance humanists. Ham II (talk) 06:36, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no article Czech Renaissance and the article Czech Renaissance architecture does not give the impression that "Czech Renaissance" is a thing in and by itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:25, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Digital Literacy

Propose deleting Category:Digital Literacy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT. Delete or merge. Gjs238 (talk) 14:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, only one article, this does not aid navigation. If kept and populated, rename to Category:Digital literacy (without capital). Marcocapelle (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/Neutral Made a go at populating it and got to 4 articles. Unsure if this topic is distinct from Category:Digital divide though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Computer literacy is a better match than Category:Digital divide. Gjs238 (talk) 12:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Right, Category:Digital divide is about access rather than about ability. If kept, re-parent under Category:Computer literacy. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not happy about proposal Category:Computer literacy to be put to use. Well, formally it is okay (as being the same field). But we should examine at a closer look. The much older notion 'Computer literacy' seems aimed at software coding skills and personal computer usability advancing/encouraging. The newer notion 'Digital Literacy' seems aiming at internet based services and skills for example: using recent AI software, referencing and formatting wikipedia articles correctly etc. Could it possibly be that these two categories are not about the same contents? -- Just N. (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The category in question, Category:Digital Literacy, contains only 2 articles other than the eponymous one. Hence WP:OVERCAT. And one of those, International Certification of Digital Literacy, is described as: "... formerly known as European Computer Driving Licence (ECDL), is a computer literacy certification program..." So the term does seem to be used loosely. Gjs238 (talk) 23:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lean Toward Delete I made a good faith effort to populate but, it still doesn't seem conceptually cohesive enough to aid navigation.. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename to Category:Digital literacy. The category now seems well enough populated to avoid WP:OVERCAT and after pondering this for some time agree, as per Just N., that 'Computer literacy' and 'Digital Literacy' "are not about the same contents." Gjs238 (talk) 03:09, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Non-fiction books by Jilly Cooper

Propose merging Category:Non-fiction books by Jilly Cooper to Category:Books by Jilly Cooper

Nominator's rationale: Non-fiction books just go in the "books by" category, no need to have a subcat --wooden superman 15:07, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are others: Category:Non-fiction books by William Boyd (writer), Category:Non-fiction books by Gabriel García Márquez, Category:Non-fiction books by Stephen King, Category:Non-fiction books by H. P. Lovecraft, Category:Non-fiction books by Norman Mailer. It would seem either the categorization is correct or there is an issue larger than Category:Non-fiction books by Jilly Cooper. Gjs238 (talk) 12:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFF. There are far more categories where this is not done. Look at Category:American non-fiction books by writer as an example. --wooden superman 15:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I suppose most of the subcategories contain books by writers who only wrote non-fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:17, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Well, F. Scott Fitzgerald, James Ellroy and Charles Bukowski all wrote fiction too, but novels and short story collections are part of a separate tree, alongside a "Works by" category for each author. I guess there must have been consensus for this at some point, but I get the argument that these are also books. I think to deviate from established categorisation might need an RFC somewhere. --wooden superman 21:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Restoration of the independence of the Baltic states

Propose deleting Category:Restoration of the independence of the Baltic states (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. We already have Category:Singing Revolution for the events leading to the independence of the Baltic States. Mellk (talk) 16:07, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the articles are already in Category:1990 in Lithuania etc. insofar applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:25, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this category includes the State continuity of the Baltic states, a crucial topic regarding the restoration of independence but not the Singing Revolution and background such as Baltic Appeal, Operation Priboi, MRP-AEG, and Letter of 40 intellectuals. These topics relate directly to the restoration of independence but do not fit in the Singing Revolution category. I know the Baltic republics are small but they should not be erased. TamsaVakaras (talk) 09:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Neither of these articles is about the restoration of independence of the Baltic states which happened in 1991. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  You say "neither" which I thought referred to two items so I am a bit confused which two you are talking about. All of the articles I cited are relevant to the restoration of independence but not specifically the revolution, although perhaps a rename to "national movements of the Baltic states" may make it clearer. State continuity of the Baltic states explains why it is the restoration. Baltic Appeal is a public letter calling for the restoration. Operation Priboi was the repression of people supporting independence. MRP-AEG was a dissident group calling for the restoration. Letter of 40 was against Russification and a key moment in the buildup to the eventual restoration.
  
  All of these are included in Template:Restoration of Baltic independence. I do not understand why categorizing them has opposition. TamsaVakaras (talk) 16:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The articles are not about the restoration of the independence as such, at best they are about a movement that aimed for restoration of the independence. Possibly rename the category if there is a main article about the movement. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This grouping of articles comes mostly from this list which has an article. I don't mind renaming and I agree that an article about the restoration of independence and resistance against the occupation would be very good. TamsaVakaras (talk) 09:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That is a template, not a list. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TamsaVakaras: the poinnt of a category is to enable navigation between related topics, and you already have a template that achieves that (and does it better) in this case. One way that you might justify a category is if you could indicate clear inclusion criteria, especially if that was an intersection of two parent categories, e.g. Category:Occupation of the Baltic states and some other topic. The current membership includes items that are too early for the other parent to be Category:Dissolution of the Soviet Union. Also, the current membership has a large overlap with Category:Singing Revolution. If articles already in the latter or in People of the Singing Revolution are removed, is there a coherent link between the 31 articles that would remain? see https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=34875847. – Fayenatic London 20:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. anything said about it by Marcocapelle and Fayenatic. -- Just N. (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Communications authorities

Propose renaming Category:Communications authorities to Category:Electronic communications authorities

Nominator's rationale: Clearer name.

Some things thrown in here are like government 'propaganda' media company regulators but if it's like telecom regulators or cable company regulators that should be 'Electronic communications authorities'. CaribDigita (talk) 02:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it become Category:Telecommunication authorities, similar to Category:Telecommunication? Marcocapelle (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am actually seeking comment for proposing that get renamed also to "Cat:Electronic Communications" as well to get rid of this arbitrary weirdness of some- countries being "Cat:Communications in (country name)" while others are "Cat:Telecommunications in (country name). 1) Example: :Category:Telecommunications in the United Kingdom but then if you look inside the Pacific bloc. Everything inside Category:Communications in Oceania by territory or dependency is filed under ":Category:Communications in (country name)". This could all be flattened to a single tree of "Electronic Communications in (blank)" some countries have no "telecommunications" networks - Some have ripped all there legacy telecommunications networks out and now only have electronic "Communications" networks left. "Telecommunications" is archaic. Today, the true legacy phone ("telecommunications") companies like AT&T are ripping out their own PTSN networks and replacing it with the same fiberoptics and copper like cable companies. Or Fiber directly to premises. And further the legacy cable companies, now sell digital broadband phone services too. Meaning traditional phone companies now sell TV, and traditional tv providers now sell phone. They're all electronic communications companies now regardless of their history. And the lines are bluring. Companies like Meta/Facebook are now launching fiberopitics cables across the seabed but they aren't "Telecoms" in the true sense of the word. CaribDigita (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that the phrase "Electronic communications" is used an awful lot in reliable sources. Electronic communications is a redirect to Telecommunications. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It would/should be a redirect right now because there's no reason to have both "Telecommuncations" & "electronic communications". But there's two categories still. That's the point I am making about the current category space there should just be one common one. Also "Amateur Ham Radio" can be under the Electronic Communications umbrella/ whereas it doesn't technically fall under "Telecommunications". Same for all satellites. Also Aircraft /airport homing beacons.. Some satellites are for example are ONLY weather satellites or other earth monitoring and don't do "telecommunications" (i.e. GPS only transmits- it's not designed to be a lot of two-way telecommunications) but all that could could fit under a neater sub-"Cat:Electronic communications".

Further comment:

Part of what I am envisioning in the grand scheme is flatten all of this into Electronic Communications.
Then underneath you can have electronic communications by type:
- Cat:Radio broadcasting(radiostations)
- Cat:Television broadcasting(television stations)
- Cat:Wireless/mobile providers
- Cat:WANs / LANs (notable ones)
- Cat:SONETS
Also "Cat:Electronic communications standards by name": 802.11x, GSM, CDMA, Bluetooth, etc.
"Cat: Electronic communications equipment manufacturers by type":
- Telecom: Polycom, Nokia, Ericsson, etc.
- Network and Switching equipment > Wireless Routers, Mobile phone towers, SONET, Wi-FI, etc.
- Electronic communications regulators. i.e. FCC, OFCOM, etc.
- Electronic communications standards consortia: Bell Labs, Cable Labs, EU's GSMArena, etc.
A complete and total refresh and neatening up of everything electronic communications in essence. I am hoping it might revive new spirit to clean up and edit under this topic. CaribDigita (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The situation in category space isn't much different from article space, we have:

Communication and Telecommunications
Category:Communication and Category:Telecommunications
Category:Communications authorities and possibly Category:Telecommunications authorities

Everything that does not fit Telecommunications can stay in Communication. If you want to create Category:Telecommunications authorities under Category:Communications authorities just go ahead. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Support Marcocapelles last proposal: create Category:Telecommunications authorities under Category:Communications authorities. -- Just N. (talk) 10:27, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Primitive painters

Propose merging Category:Primitive painters to Category:Naïve painters

Nominator's rationale: these seem to be overlapping. ^SMason_Garrison 13:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as Naïve art and Primitivism explain, they are not the same. Naïve is art produced by untrained artists. Primitivism is trained artists imitating the style of naïve art or idealizing and aestheticizing Primitive art. --Jahaza (talk) 15:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Purge and delete, it is not a defining characteristic of either of the two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Works set in cities

Propose renaming Category:Baku in fiction to Category:Works set in Baku
Propose renaming Category:Bangkok in fiction to Category:Works set in Bangkok
Propose renaming Category:Beirut in fiction to Category:Works set in Beirut
Propose renaming Category:Bogotá in fiction to Category:Works set in Bogotá
Propose renaming Category:Budapest in fiction to Category:Works set in Budapest
Propose renaming Category:Copenhagen in fiction to Category:Works set in Copenhagen
Propose renaming Category:Damascus in fiction to Category:Works set in Damascus
Propose renaming Category:Dhaka in fiction to Category:Works set in Dhaka
Propose renaming Category:Dubrovnik in fiction to Category:Works set in Dubrovnik
Propose renaming Category:Havana in fiction to Category:Works set in Havana
Propose renaming Category:Helsinki in fiction to Category:Works set in Helsinki
Propose renaming Category:Jakarta in fiction to Category:Works set in Jakarta
Propose renaming Category:Kuala Lumpur in fiction to Category:Works set in Kuala Lumpur
Propose renaming Category:Lisbon in fiction to Category:Works set in Lisbon
Propose renaming Category:Manila in fiction to Category:Works set in Manila
Propose renaming Category:Niš in fiction to Category:Works set in Niš
Propose renaming Category:Novi Sad in fiction to Category:Works set in Novi Sad
Propose renaming Category:Petra in fiction to Category:Works set in Petra
Propose renaming Category:Reykjavík in fiction to Category:Works set in Reykjavík
Propose renaming Category:Tangier in fiction to Category:Works set in Tangier
Propose renaming Category:Zagreb in fiction to Category:Works set in Zagreb

Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent to the Works tree. Normally "in fiction" categories contain "works set in", "fictional people" and "fictional locations". But in the above cases there are only works. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One obvious problem with the proposed names: some of the items in these categories are not "set in" the places, but merely filmed there, with the locations standing in for somewhere else (real or fictional). Petra stands out as a perfect example of a place that is frequently used as a backdrop not as Petra, but as an imaginary location that may or may not be more clearly named or described. The problem, then, is what to name the category. "Depictions of" or "Portrayals of" might be problematic where a location isn't meant to represent itself; i.e. Toronto used to represent Metropolis, a London neighborhood used to depict nineteenth-century Dublin, etc. (although between the two, "depictions of" sounds less problematic because the actual place is "depicted" in a sense, even if it's standing in for somewhere else; I think that "portrayed" might also be capable of that meaning, but it seems less intuitive).

Perhaps "Fooburg in film and television" as a subcategory of "Fooburg in media" or "Fooburg in fiction"? But those categories wouldn't be limited to "fictional" appearances. Not sure that matters as a subcategory as long as some of the entries are fictional (whether or not they're intended to represent Fooburg—the defining criterion would be that it's in fiction). I note that written works shouldn't have this issue: they don't need to use one location to stand in for another; even in media such as graphic novels or comic books, the artist can draw the correct location or a completely original one (though photonovels of visual media using a stand-in location would be an exception). P Aculeius (talk) 14:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This problem can be resolved easily by purging article Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen from Category:Petra in fiction. The article is in a ridiculous number of "shot in" categories anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:30, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That presumes that only one place is or is likely to be categorized based on its appearance as a different or generic location, and that it will only occur once... I'm reasonably certain that Petra has been used many times in various works of significance without any intention of it representing Petra. And so have many other places that might be identifiable to persons familiar with the backdrops, though not to general audiences.

Purging a category of items in order to justify renaming it seems counterintuitive; it's not renaming, but changing the scope of the category. In this case categories intended to include depictions of places in fictional works would be expanded to include non-fiction, but at the same time restricted to exclude works that depict the place as a stand-in for somewhere else. So a painting of Tangier would be included, but a movie shot in Tangier but set in Baghdad or Marrakesh would not.

The proposal seems to proceed from the fact that "Fooburg in fiction" doesn't include "fictional people" or "fictional locations", but just "works". Obviously we wouldn't expect real places to include "people" or "fictional locations" as subcategories—there might be exceptions—but the lack of certain subcategories doesn't seem to justify changing their scope so that they can't include things they normally would, but ought to include many things that they currently should not. P Aculeius (talk) 15:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename, I find Category:Works set in Foo a better description of the content inside. Regarding Transformers, "Films shot in Foo" are usually not sorted under "Foo in fiction"] (e.g. in Category:Works by location or here)so it would be wise to remove Transformers from the category as it is not set in Petra. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:55, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Seasonal holidays

Propose deleting Category:Seasonal holidays
Propose deleting Category:Seasonal holidays in the Northern Hemisphere
Propose deleting Category:Seasonal holidays in the Southern Hemisphere
Propose deleting Category:Autumn holidays
Propose deleting Category:Autumn holidays (Northern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Autumn holidays (Southern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Spring holidays
Propose deleting Category:Spring holidays (Northern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Spring holidays (Southern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Summer holidays
Propose deleting Category:Summer holidays (Northern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Summer holidays (Southern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Winter holidays
Propose deleting Category:Winter holidays (Northern Hemisphere)
Propose deleting Category:Winter holidays (Southern Hemisphere)

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant as we already have Category:January observances until Category:December observances. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:50, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Many holidays or festivals are tied to the time of the year, not a particular calendar month. Think of lunar holidays, they aren't tied to any specific month in a calendar year and that is only one example. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lunar holidays are still in the tree of Category:Observances by month, for example Lantern Festival is in Category:February observances and Category:March observances. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Southern Hemisphere summer holidays probably have more in common with Northern Hemisphere summer holidays than Northern Hemisphere winter holidays, so I think the separate tree is useful. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:54, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery: if that were the case a split between Northern and Southern Hemisphere would not be needed. But in fact I do not see any articles that fit summer holidays in both hemispheres. The holidays are simply defined by a date (on any calendar). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Calendars are and mean different times dependant on hemispheres. -- Just N. (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

20th-century establishments in Aragon

Propose merging Category:1983 establishments in Aragon to Category:1983 establishments in Spain and Category:20th-century establishments in Aragon
Propose merging Category:1993 establishments in Aragon to Category:1983 establishments in Spain and Category:20th-century establishments in Aragon
Propose deleting Category:1980s establishments in Aragon
Propose deleting Category:1990s establishments in Aragon

Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. The 21st century shows a little more potential to be usefully populated. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Puerto Rican recipients of the Medal of Honor

Propose merging Category:Puerto Rican recipients of the Medal of Honor to Category:Recipients of the Medal of Honor

Nominator's rationale: Category:Recipients of United States military awards and decorations and Category:Recipients of the Medal of Honor not subcategorized by state, territory or insular area. Gjs238 (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per WP:OCLOCATION and potentially WP:OCEGRS. The island (or ethnicity) is not related to the award. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:21, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deccani language

Propose merging Category:Deccani language to Category:Dialects of Urdu
Propose merging Category:Deccani language books to Category:Urdu-language books

Nominator's rationale: This is a dialect, not a language. There's no need to isolate this dialect. These categories were rapid-fire made by a sockpoppet. ^SMason_Garrison 02:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Africa-focused media

Propose deleting Category:Africa-focused media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Merge into existing more clear category "Category:News media in Africa" CaribDigita (talk) 09:21, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Thepharoah17 (talk) 09:58, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose deletion/merge, these are media that are not based in Africa. No objection to renaming if someone has a better suggestion for it. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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There's no set pattern within Category:Mass media by topic. I suggest renaming to Category:Mass media about Africa. – Fayenatic London 20:48, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is fine with me. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Football clubs in Porto-Novo

Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Porto-Novo (9) to Category:Sports clubs and teams in Porto-Novo and Category:Football clubs in Benin
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Lobatse (2) to Category:South-East District (Botswana) and Category:Football clubs in Botswana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Mochudi (1) to Category:Kgatleng District and Category:Football clubs in Botswana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Mogoditshane (1) to Category:Kweneng District and Category:Football clubs in Botswana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Orapa (1) to Category:Central District (Botswana) and Category:Football clubs in Botswana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Selebi-Phikwe (2) to Category:Central District (Botswana) and Category:Football clubs in Botswana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs In Ismailia (1) to Category:Sport in Ismailia and Category:Football clubs in Egypt
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Tamale (2) to Category:Tamale, Ghana and Category:Football clubs in Ghana
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Rabat (6) to Category:Sport in Rabat and Category:Football clubs in Morocco
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Windhoek (11) to Category:Sports clubs and teams in Windhoek and Category:Football clubs in Namibia
Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Ibadan (3) to Category:Sports clubs and teams in Ibadan and Category:Football clubs in Nigeria

Nominator's rationale: There are 1–2 articles or one article and its epocat in each of these very detailed intersections. It does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Merge~~ per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Partial keep per below. (Added after relisting.) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Ampimd (talk) 15:42, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Partial Keep I just populated Windhoek's category from 2 to 11 and Rabat from 2 to 6. Many of these are large cities (sometimes national capitals) which have a number of football clubs in them. Many of these need to be populated, not merged.--User:Namiba 14:57, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for populating Porto-Novo, Rabat, and Windhoek. I have no objection to keeping them. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Skyscraper hotels by country and city

Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels by country and city to Category:Skyscraper hotels by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in China by city to Category:Skyscraper hotels in China and Category:Skyscraper hotels by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in India by city to Category:Skyscraper hotels in India and Category:Skyscraper hotels by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in Japan by city to Category:Skyscraper hotels in Japan and Category:Skyscraper hotels by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in Taiwan by city to Category:Skyscraper hotels in Taiwan and Category:Skyscraper hotels by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United States by state to Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United States
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings by country and city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Australia by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Australia and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Canada by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Canada and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in China by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in China and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in France by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in France and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Japan by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Japan and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the Netherlands by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the Netherlands and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Spain by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Spain and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Taiwan by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Taiwan and Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city
Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United States by state to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United States
Propose merging Category:Residential skyscrapers by country to Category:Residential skyscrapers

Nominator's rationale: No need for all these layers as Category:Skyscraper hotels in China et cetera are almost completely empty on categories. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:48, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Generally support per nom, but oppose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in China by city, with 9 subcategories this is a useful subcategory of Category:Skyscraper office buildings by city. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Rationale is not supported by the facts. Look at all the categories for the United States, for example. This nomination will degrade the ability of readers to find information based on the state level, an important factor in all United States building categories. For the by county categories, it will degrade readers' ability to easily find information at the country level. In considering the category structure, we must look at the impact to each and all of the parent categories and the impact on readers. And there is nothing inherently wrong with small categories when considering reader navigation Hmains (talk) 18:19, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Some/Comment In addition to the US and China, Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Canada by city looks helpful to me. I would suggest a more narrow nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:36, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I have revised the proposal removing the larger categories. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:20th-century Slovak engravers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 21#Category:20th-century Slovak engravers

Category:Mongolian actors by populated place

Propose merging Category:Mongolian actors by populated place to Category:Mongolian actors

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec

- Also propose merging Category:Moldovan actors by populated place to Category:Moldovan actors. Another category with just one entry.(talk) 13:34, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. ^SMason_Garrison 13:42, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Towns in Egypt

Propose deleting Category:Towns in Egypt (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category appears to be obsolete, all the pages in this category are also in categories for their governorates (e.g. Populated places in Minya Governorate) (with the exception of Ahamidat Al Horah which I have PRODed as I have not been able to establish that it is a place). This category would have made sense in the past to categorize places when the articles were stubs with no location information, but I think the categories for populated places in each governorate are sufficient now and we should expect any new article created to at least provide that level of information, making this category obsolete. There are also a similar category for villages which we might also want to consider, however it is quite a bit bigger and I have not gone through it yet to make sure all the pages have a suitable alternative home. Giuliotf (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:Cities in Egypt and rename it Category:Cities and towns in Egypt Thepharoah17 (talk) 11:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom but the cities and villages should follow. As nom says, diffusion by governorate suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:04, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1500s disestablishments in Sweden

Propose deleting Category:1500s disestablishments in Sweden
Propose merging Category:1505 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1505 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1520s disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1520s disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1526 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1526 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1527 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1527 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1529 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1529 disestablishments in Europe
Propose deleting Category:1530s disestablishments in Sweden
Propose merging Category:1536 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1582 disestablishments in Europe
Propose deleting Category:1540s disestablishments in Sweden
Propose merging Category:1547 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1582 disestablishments in Europe
Propose deleting Category:1580s disestablishments in Sweden
Propose merging Category:1582 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:16th-century disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1582 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1646 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:1640s disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1646 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1655 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:1650s disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1655 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1655 disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire to Category:1650s disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire
Propose merging Category:1658 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:1650s disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1658 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1658 disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire to Category:1650s disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire
Propose merging Category:1663 disestablishments in Sweden to Category:1660s disestablishments in Sweden and Category:1663 disestablishments in Europe
Propose merging Category:1663 disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire to Category:1660s disestablishments in the Swedish colonial empire

Nominator's rationale: Around ten disestablishments per century categorised by year during these two centuries in one-per-year categories mostly. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for Now per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OCYEAR, since a whole series of underpopulated cats does not aid navigation. No objection to later recreation though if the actual article count grows substantially. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:57, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now per nom and RD. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish-language television stations in Mexico

Propose deleting Category:Spanish-language television stations in Mexico (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Basically all TV stations in Mexico broadcast in Spanish. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:15, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - a clear case of WP:NONDEFINING. Inter&anthro (talk) 05:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:04, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of YIVO

Propose renaming Category:History of YIVO to Category:YIVO

Nominator's rationale: Category would be more broad and include any related articles that may not have to do with history. At the moment it's mostly people. Qualiesin (talk) 03:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per actual content, preferably to Category:YIVO people, or else to Category:YIVO. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:10, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Marcocapelle 216.247.95.184 (talk) 12:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:YIVO people, and add links to & from the main article YIVO instead of it being a member page. – Fayenatic London 20:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Marcocapelle.-- Just N. (talk) 10:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine films

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