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Indian Premier League on television

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No need for this to be a separate article from Indian Premier League. Vestrian24Bio 10:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting largely per WP:NOPAGE. This topic is adequately covered at the redirect target. Frank Anchor 12:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First off, this was intended as a place to reinstate some history regarding the history of its broadcast rights that had been unilaterally removed by another editor without explanation, while allowing the main article to have more of a streamlined summary. In addition, this article is modeled after several similar articles in American sports, including National Football League on television and Major League Soccer on television, with the possibly of including more details about things like the production, notable personnel, etc. ViperSnake151 Talk 17:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Vestrian24Bio 01:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting which covers the topic suitably. We don't need a separate page with this level of detail into the broadcasting, the summary already in IPL article is sufficient. The keep vote seems like WP:OSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Samsunspor presidents

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Doesn't meet WP:NLIST, as it's just a list of non-notable people. Unnecessary WP:CFORK from main Samsunspor article, where all of the history section in this article could be merged instead (or a general article about the sports club rather than the football club created). Either way, this list is not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge - honestly this isn't disallowed but it's not sourced well enough to be forked/split. SportingFlyer T·C 15:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I don't agree that the a list of presidents of a nationally relevant football club is fails in WP:NLIST. Svartner (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is Samsunspor as long an article as to warrant a fork/split? This was also brought up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Unnecessary split?. Geschichte (talk) 20:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the list to Samsunspor, agree the standalone article is unnecessary at this point. C 679 08:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Samsunspor#Presidents - and also delete {{Samsunspor presidents}}. Giant Snowman 18:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lure Riga

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Non-notable amature football club. Whilst it has it's own history it has not gathered any secondary coverage. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 05:25, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 1944 Latvian Higher League as they appear to have only played in that season. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Riga#Sports, football clubs go through different leagues, promotions and relegations. Redirecting to leagues is just wrong. Regardless of only playing one league season, the history is always related to the town more than the league. Govvy (talk) 09:56, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't mentioned at Riga#Sports as this is a team that existed for one season during the German occupation of Latvia. They are however mentioned at the season article. Normally I would agree that season article redirects aren't great, but in this specific case it makes sense. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:25, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Riga#Sports per Govvy. The league season is an okay target, but a club's history is generally more tied to its city than its league (particularly a league in which it only played a single season). The fact that They aren't mentioned at Riga#Sports is an easily WP:SURMOUNTABLE problem that can be addressed by adding a one-line mention at Riga#Sports under the "dissolved football clubs" heading. Frank Anchor 12:14, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to 1944 Latvian Higher League which is where they are actually mentioned. Giant Snowman 18:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samuele Pugliese

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Does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for sports and athletics, nor for kick boxing HeinzMaster (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Classic case of TOOSOON. Doesnt meet NKICK or GNG. Nswix (talk) 15:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet WP:NKICK. Lekkha Moun (talk) 10:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet WP:NKICK and my search didn't find significant independent coverage that shows WP:GNG is met. Interestingly, I got more hits for a dancer with this name than for the kickboxer. Papaursa (talk) 03:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Taka SC

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It this a notable location? Right now this is unreferenced (WP:V failure, single EL to Facebook...). On pl wiki some editors tried to create an entry with some refs, but there is confusion whether they talk about the same entity, or different... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I at least wanted to point out that this article is about a football club, not a "location". (I have no opinion on the article or its current lack of sourcing.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wcquidditch Good catch, I came here via interwiki to Stade Al-Taka Kassala which redirects here, but yes, the club itself is just as bad, GNG-wise. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:44, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Joey Hawkins

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Non-notable football player. Never played in the NFL, run of the mill college football career, can't find any prominent sources satisfying GNG. (Previous AfD is on a different Joey Hawkins as a coach who, ironically, i found slightly more sourcing on) Wizardman 22:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [1][2][3][4] He played basketball in college also. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Michael Hutchings (American football coach)

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Article does not include any GNG-level sourcing, and a WP:BEFORE search does not reveal any GNG sources. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources are compelling — I had been looking for coaching sources and didn't find any sigcov, but it looks like he might be notable as a player from his college career? 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Week delete: The issues on the article lacking inline citation is a real problem, articles cites more unreliable sources, even if the subject might be notable, the created piece fails WP:GNG for that reason. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 22:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability isn't based on the article quality (WP:CONTN). I removed the X (Twitter) source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you can make a good improvement on the article and add some of the sources you listed on the discussion on the article and develop the article maybe I can consider changing my comment, placing the source here without adding it on the article won’t help much. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 00:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes GNG. Somewhat borderline but I think being an NFL coach puts him over the bar of notability. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He is the current Safeties coach for the Minnesota Viking. That is notable. If you have any problems with that you can look at the Minnesota Vikings website.'~DakotaBoy89~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by DakotaBoy89 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC) [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 04:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete Being listed on the Vikings' website has zero bearing on notability (they have bios for a bunch of non-notable people-even their turf technicians). Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. I think the sources found above put him just over the threshold. Wizardman 23:01, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Even discounting the Sun article, which doesn't say much, there are multiple articles about the subject from at least 4 different reliable sources (including the LA Times), which is plenty to meet GNG. While GPL93 is correct that the Vikings website has zero bearing, I am not counting that one. And Chippla360's insistence on including these sources in the article has no bearing on whether the article should be kept or not per GNG. That can be done after the article is kept, if it is. Rlendog (talk) 13:40, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Zhao Wei (basketball)

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This athlete was a member of the Chinese Olympic Basketball team in 1988. Her team placed 6th. She did not compete again, and quite logically has no WP:SIGCOV. The only source in the article is a Sports Reference entry, which is trivial coverage per WP:SPORTCRIT. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 15:56, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to China at the 1988 Summer Olympics#Basketball – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 21:27, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Hawkins

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Non-notable football player. Never played in the NFL, run of the mill college football career, can't find any prominent sources satisfying GNG. (Previous AfD is on a different Joey Hawkins as a coach who, ironically, i found slightly more sourcing on) Wizardman 22:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [13][14][15][16] He played basketball in college also. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Sora Tanaka

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Not meet WP:NBOX HumanRight 00:05, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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NBOX doesn’t have any prescriptive criteria for boxers; it defers to WP:SIGCOV. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:27, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This can be reasonably fixed, and sources exist, WP:NBOX defers to WP:SIGCOV, which exists per reference section.

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Singkham Phongpratith

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Another stub created by Lugnuts. No WP:SIGCOV found. Svartner (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Emiliano Vargas

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Not meet WP:NBOX HumanRight 01:24, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Doesn't yet appear to meet WP:NBOX or WP:GNG. At best it appears to be WP:TOOSOON for an article on him, although perhaps a mention of him could be made in his father's article. Papaursa (talk) 17:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Bangura (boxer)

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Declined prod. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: nothing to say about this person. Mention him in Boxing at the 1980 Summer Olympics if warranted, but if that's not warranted then this article certainly isn't. -- LWG ^talk 16:23, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sierra Leone at the 1980 Summer Olympics#Boxing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I couldn't find evidence to show that he meets any WP notability criteria as an individual, so a redirect to an article where he's already mentioned seems reasonable. Papaursa (talk) 03:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Shalom

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This entire article, beyond the opening paragraph, is about a totally different person. Should be deleted or sent to drafts. How this passed the new page checks I can't understand. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 21:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete it appears to be a copy paste of Moses Itauma, besides the first sentence. Masohpotato (talk) 23:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify - I imagine that the creating editor (same for both Moses Itauma and this article) based this article on the previous one and forgot to remove the copied text. I have now removed it. Anxioustoavoid as far as I can see no-one up until now has marked the page as reviewed, so it has not passed the new page checks. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 07:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Ping me if you can find three reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Unlike the above !votes, I think Shalom passes WP:GNG. Understandably, I think frustration over this article passing our new page check system may have yielded insufficient WP:BEFORE. There are numerous articles which mention him by name and cover him to an extent that I would say passes WP:SIGCOV: e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Some of these might be debatable given that much of the coverage relates to the Eubank vs Benn fight, but there are articles with interviews of him and discussion of him as a promoter going back to 2024 - if he is a promoter who is being mentioned by name in article headlines across multiple fights spanning years of time, that seems notable. I will also ping Bearian per request. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 14:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Flipandflopped. And yes, this is a flip-flop. Please add the sources to the article. Bearian (talk) 14:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Article has been updated. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 14:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Indian Premier League on television

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No need for this to be a separate article from Indian Premier League. Vestrian24Bio 10:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting largely per WP:NOPAGE. This topic is adequately covered at the redirect target. Frank Anchor 12:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First off, this was intended as a place to reinstate some history regarding the history of its broadcast rights that had been unilaterally removed by another editor without explanation, while allowing the main article to have more of a streamlined summary. In addition, this article is modeled after several similar articles in American sports, including National Football League on television and Major League Soccer on television, with the possibly of including more details about things like the production, notable personnel, etc. ViperSnake151 Talk 17:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Vestrian24Bio 01:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting which covers the topic suitably. We don't need a separate page with this level of detail into the broadcasting, the summary already in IPL article is sufficient. The keep vote seems like WP:OSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karen Read

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No, not the Massachusetts woman on trial for murder (although I will admit, searching for her lead me to this stub). This article is about an Australian former cricketer. Although criteria #1 of WP:NCRICKET is technically passed because she has played at the international level for a Test-playing nation, NSPORT is clear that there must always be independent WP:SIGCOV of the individual athlete. Neither player profiles on sports aggregation websites, nor an article from 1982 that talks about the entire Australian Cricket team, qualify. WP:BEFORE search did not yield any eligible coverage. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 01:17, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Given this article's high page views (41,193 at this writing) compared to other members of the 1982 Australian women's cricket team, I don't think it's a stretch that most of those views are looking for Death of John O'Keefe instead. Should this discussion lead to deletion, creating a redirect to that article at this title might be wise, but I offer no opinion on the current article and subject (which has been on Wikipedia for about a decade before the Massachusetts murder trial even began) or its notability and sourcing. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:35, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely, yes. I am quite certain that thousands of people have stumbled upon this article inadvertently. If this AfD is not successful, I will likely start a discussion on the article talk page proposing to move it to "Karen Read (cricketer)" and have the current title replaced by a redirect which leads to Death of John O'Keefe. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 14:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment given that she played in a team that won the Women's Cricket World Cup, and was given an Order of Australia award for services to cricket, I would expect there will be more sources out there, once filtering through the ones about current person of same name. Because achievements like these tend to garner non-trivial coverage. Will have a look in the next few days on this. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's interesting that you say that, because intuitively, I would not think so. I don't see why reliable secondary sources would have indepth coverage about a person just because they were on a winning rugby team in 1982 - not just about the team, but about her specifically. The same goes for the Order of Australia, as nearly 50,000 people have received it (and I highly doubt that all 50,000 of them have WP:SIGCOV). With this being said, I will gladly withdraw the nomination if someone can produce two examples of significant independent coverage. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 14:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable sources: "Captain of Western Australia's only winning Australian Championship team"

Flipandflopped: She was just "on" the team
It's pretty usual for the captain of a championship team to get interviewed and profiled in the sports news, because the captain isn't just some random player. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:36, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. In addition to what Joseph2302 has noted above, she is in the Western Australian cricket Gallery of Greats and the Karen Read Medal is awarded each year to the best A Grade player in the state. I would be utterly astounded if SIGCOV of her does not exist. But unfortunately most digitised Australian newspaper archives are very spotty between around the mid-1950s and early 1990s, and I haven't been able to find anything in any of the databases I have access to. Hoping someone else has better luck, otherwise regretfully redirect to List of Australia women Test cricketers. MCE89 (talk) 12:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, no move Sources have been added to the article, and it's once again time to remind everyone that though this is the English-language Wikipedia and the servers are hosted in Florida, that doesn't mean American subjects gain primacy in article naming. The MA woman may be getting more attention now, but she has no article, and the hatnote is fulfilling the purpose as it does, and there should be no change at all and I would oppose any rename for this article just because 'MA Karen currently gets more attention'. In three years, she will likely be forgotten as most overcovered trial subjects in the States are once true crime media finds another woman's case to track. Nathannah • 📮 16:14, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nathannah, what two independent secondary sources that were added to the article pass WP:SIGCOV? There is:
- "Player Profile: Karen Read". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 26 January 2023. - Just a summary of her stats, exists for every cricket athlete ever. Clearly not WP:SIGCOV.
- "Player Profile: Karen Read". CricketArchive. Retrieved 26 January 2023. - Per above.
- "Cricket Australia congratulates 2025 Australia Day Honours recipients". Cricket Australia. 27 January 2025. Retrieved 16 June 2025 - Not independent of the subject, fails both WP:SIGCOV and WP:BIO. Even if it was independent of the subject, it is a passing mention that she won an award. There is no indepth or substantive coverage of Read.
- "Australian women win final". The Sydney Morning Herald. Fairfax Media. 8 February 1982. Retrieved 25 April 2014 - Does not significantly discuss Read as an individual besides mentioning once that she scored in a game, fails WP:SIGCOV.
- "Karen Read Medal". Western Australian Cricket Association. Retrieved 16 June 2025 - A list of people who have won her medal. Does not significantly discuss Read as an individual beyond a single sentence. It is also not independent of the subject. It fails WP:NBIO and WP:SIGCOV.
- "WACA Honorary Life Members". Western Australian Cricket Association. Retrieved 16 June 2025 - A list of people that she is on, does not discuss her and does not pass WP:SIGCOV.
- "Karen Read". Western Australian Secondary School Executives Association. Retrieved 16 June 2025 - Not independent of the subject, not WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:BIO.
- "Dr Karen Ann READ". Australian Honours Search Facility. Retrieved 25 January 2025 - Primary sources which contains no significant coverage; it is her C.V. posted on a government website.
Respectfully, all of the above objectively fail WP:SIGCOV, and you would know that if you had read the article or even bothered to open them. Even the user who added them to the article, Joseph, acknowledged they were insufficient to pass WP:GNG as-is. I understand you resent the implication that the other Karen Read is a more notable subject, but this is WP:NOTAFORUM and I would ask you focus future contributions on whether *this article* passes WP:GNG. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 16:44, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per added sources and WP:HEY. The article has doubled in size, and the number of cited sources has doubled, since the nomination was made. Someone with access to the Trove might be able to find even more. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that I’ve checked Trove and unfortunately it doesn’t help in this case. For copyright reasons, Trove generally only contains newspapers up to 1954. The only major newspaper for which Trove covers the relevant period is The Canberra Times, where she appears in about half a dozen match reports but doesn’t get any SIGCOV. The best bet for finding SIGCOV would probably be the archives of The West Australian, but as far as I can tell only their pre-1954 and post-1995 articles have been digitised. MCE89 (talk) 07:15, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhatamIdoing Again, I would just like to politely ask which two sources, specifically, pass WP:SIGCOV or WP:NBIO. "The article has doubled" is not a policy-based rationale with regards to whether the subject matter is notable. I really hope whoever reviews this can sympathize with my frustration... none of these !votes are addressing the question of notability... "Does the subject pass WP:GNG"? Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 13:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Flipandflopped, I would just like to politely ask that you read Wikipedia:Don't bludgeon the process and then stop arguing with every editor who doesn't !vote your way. Four editors have expressed an opinion about whether to keep, delete, or redirect this article, and you have argued with three of us so far. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize - not my intention to bludgeon, I realize it may have come off that way. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 18:41, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Allanby

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Doesn't have enough reliable / significant sources. They are mainly stat pages. Darkm777 (talk) 01:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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There's the odd source lurking around – a school yearbook with a little detail in for example, and he played for Sandy Bay in Hobart. The Allanby name in general crops up quite a bit as well. But there's nothing in depth enough to suggest keeping here for me that I can find, although I'm not great with Trove so someone else may find something. There is, however, an obvious redirect target at List of Tasmanian representative cricketers#Players whose debut was between 1969 and 1985, which, as a WP:ATD, would be the normal course of action for cricketers. This preserves the page history and allows for easy expansion if sources do become available, which happens Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:47, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cinder painter (talk) 04:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Cue sports

FooBillard

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My WP:BEFORE search did not find sufficient evidence that the subject is notable. Lacks adequate coverage in independent sources for notability. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Many reviews in gaming or software magazines, [17] [18] [19] [20] [21], also has a Softonic review, would appear to be notable beyond a doubt. Its apparent lack of sources is due to them largely being WP:OFFLINE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:52, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cycling

Riaan Manser

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Promotional article about a person with one source that reports on the WP:SINGLEEVENT. The rest is unsourced puffery. No longstanding WP:SIGCOV. ZimZalaBim ^talk 03:52, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Football

Jaden Heskey

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 21:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft Not a bad start, somewhat tabloid in sources, a little short for general GNG for me. But when he has a proper debut and a little more talked about him I am sure it will be fine. Govvy (talk) 08:12, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Damián Kachút

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With only one match at professional level, this person is certainly non-notable. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Luis Gonzalez (soccer, born 1989)

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Played less than 10 matches for USL Championship. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Typical listings and no WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reid Schmitt

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Previous deleted in 2013 failing in WP:FOOTY. Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:17, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: He signed a contract [22] and played [23], is about the extent of coverage. These are RS, but I don't see enough to justify an article. Oaktree b (talk) 12:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per Oaktree b. Very brief career. RossEvans19 (talk) 14:01, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Typical listings and no WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:32, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fernando de Noronha football team

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A team that played a single match in 2017 but never officially represented Fernando de Noronha in any competition. Its haven't the same historical relevance like the old Brazilian state teams. Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 10:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Obscure football team without any claim to notability and relevance. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 07:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing WP:GNG. Often, I would suggest redirecting to the place article, but there's so little useful about this team that even that isn't worth doing in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:14, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Masahiro Iwata

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22 professional appearances before retiring. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – One source on Japanese Wikipedia is an interview without independent analysis. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 07:46, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yuya Nakamura (footballer, born 1987)

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25 professional appearances before retiring. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shohei Kamada

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A 29 game professional career is some, but he seems to have retired after 2006. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia is poorly-sourced. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 07:48, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FC St. Louis

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Redirect to Women's Premier Soccer League as I am unable to find much of any coverage of this team after searches on Google and Newspapers.com, let alone enough to warrant a standalone article. JTtheOG (talk) 06:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Just found a huge article about them on ProQuest, searching for "FC St. Louis" and then "soccer". (Log in to ProQuest via Wikipedia Library first and link should work.) Don't have time right now but looks like there is more. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:35, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Samsunspor presidents

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Doesn't meet WP:NLIST, as it's just a list of non-notable people. Unnecessary WP:CFORK from main Samsunspor article, where all of the history section in this article could be merged instead (or a general article about the sports club rather than the football club created). Either way, this list is not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge - honestly this isn't disallowed but it's not sourced well enough to be forked/split. SportingFlyer T·C 15:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I don't agree that the a list of presidents of a nationally relevant football club is fails in WP:NLIST. Svartner (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is Samsunspor as long an article as to warrant a fork/split? This was also brought up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Unnecessary split?. Geschichte (talk) 20:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the list to Samsunspor, agree the standalone article is unnecessary at this point. C 679 08:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Samsunspor#Presidents - and also delete {{Samsunspor presidents}}. Giant Snowman 18:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Darnbrough

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I just don't see WP:SIGCOV, I've looked over this article a few times and the build is solely done on WP:ROUTINE, primary citations. I honestly feel this is not notable enough. Govvy (talk) 10:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Agree, I can't find any SIGCOV. Seems to just be a run of the mill article on a football scout who played a bit of amateur earlier in his life. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:28, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It is an important role he has at clubs, but a behind-the-scenes role. All the coverage seems to be "he is hired by club" and "he has left club".--Echetus Xe 19:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:21, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lure Riga

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Non-notable amature football club. Whilst it has it's own history it has not gathered any secondary coverage. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 05:25, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 1944 Latvian Higher League as they appear to have only played in that season. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Riga#Sports, football clubs go through different leagues, promotions and relegations. Redirecting to leagues is just wrong. Regardless of only playing one league season, the history is always related to the town more than the league. Govvy (talk) 09:56, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't mentioned at Riga#Sports as this is a team that existed for one season during the German occupation of Latvia. They are however mentioned at the season article. Normally I would agree that season article redirects aren't great, but in this specific case it makes sense. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:25, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Riga#Sports per Govvy. The league season is an okay target, but a club's history is generally more tied to its city than its league (particularly a league in which it only played a single season). The fact that They aren't mentioned at Riga#Sports is an easily WP:SURMOUNTABLE problem that can be addressed by adding a one-line mention at Riga#Sports under the "dissolved football clubs" heading. Frank Anchor 12:14, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to 1944 Latvian Higher League which is where they are actually mentioned. Giant Snowman 18:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lazaros Efthymiou

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I proposed before realizing it had been previously nominated - 1 professional appearance [24]. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:46, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leland Wright

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Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. The only sources currently in the article are either blogs or are primary to the teams the subject played for, and I can't find anything better to support notability. Let'srun (talk) 17:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eli Lockaby

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Subject lacks the necessary WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. Let'srun (talk) 17:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samira Awad

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Clear fail of GNG. Lacks WP:SIGCOV Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Nehme1499 Are there not more sources? From her stats she looks like she should be an important part of the history of the Lebanon national woman's team. Govvy (talk) 18:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, see [25]], [26]. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:42, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep – Per sources in Arabic. Svartner (talk) 23:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which (apparently - AGF) show notability. Giant Snowman 18:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there are various sources to show GNG. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 18:42, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo Bárcena

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Fails in WP:GNG, only 4 professional matches for clubs of third level in Spain and Greece. Svartner (talk) 00:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:54, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, not even a claim to notability. Geschichte (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Taka SC

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It this a notable location? Right now this is unreferenced (WP:V failure, single EL to Facebook...). On pl wiki some editors tried to create an entry with some refs, but there is confusion whether they talk about the same entity, or different... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I at least wanted to point out that this article is about a football club, not a "location". (I have no opinion on the article or its current lack of sourcing.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wcquidditch Good catch, I came here via interwiki to Stade Al-Taka Kassala which redirects here, but yes, the club itself is just as bad, GNG-wise. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:44, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Ngouba Singh

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Ngouba Singh had a very brief career and I can't find any evidence of a WP:GNG or a WP:SPORTBASIC pass. He doesn't seem to have played since 2015 so not likely to have any notability in the future either so no point in sending to draft space. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. Madeleine (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lalrinchhana Tochhawng

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Poorly sourced BLP with no indication of passing WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. The closest thing to significant coverage in my searches was Inkhel, which is a brief transfer announcement. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:03, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ningthoujam Samananda

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Footballer with a very short career and no sign of meeting WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. The best that I can find is Mumbai Mirror, which is standard match report coverage rather than anything that we can build a biography from. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:27, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Barlow

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It appears the highest level the subject played for was the third tier of American soccer and he had a brief and non-notable career. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Barlow

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The highest level the subject played at was the third tier of American soccer, failing to make an appearance in MLS. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:23, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stephan Barea

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Barea earned a single cap for Puerto Rico, but otherwise had an insignificant career, the highest level he played at was the fourth tier of the United States. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Syd Protheroe

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Biography of a footballer, not properly sourced as passing WP:NSPORT. As always, footballers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to be shown to achieve certain notability benchmarks supported by WP:GNG-worthy third-party reliable source coverage about their careers -- but this literally just states that he existed without saying anything about his career above and beyond the simple fact of existing, and is referenced to two unreliable source directory entries that aren't support for notability and a brief mention of his name in a book on the overall "official history" of one team he played for, which isn't enough to get him over GNG all by itself.
As I don't have access to archived British media coverage from the 1930s, I'd be happy to withdraw this if somebody who does have such access can find better sourcing with which to say more about him than just "he was a player who existed, the end", but simple existence isn't "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from needing better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:01, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for your reasoning.--Burroughs'10 (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article is only three days old, did you not consider asking the creator to improve the article first? I did struggle to find sources, I found his name on an old archive score card here, but from whats written on vintagefootballers.com there could be some stuff to look up. He was then called up to WW2, so he might also have information on him from that time. I'd have to say, just because you can't find stuff on the internet doesn't mean there isn't offline resources like the old newspapers. I wouldn't call this an open and shut case. Govvy (talk) 18:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for the reasons stated by the nominator and lack of anything I can find independently from my own searching. The argument put forward that the article is only three days old so should be kept is illogical. It should have been researched properly before being published. As for "he was in WW2 so there must be coverage", that's nonsense too as millions of people were involved in WW2 without getting any media coverage for their efforts. Finally you can't just say "there must be offline coverage", you have to prove it or at least show it is more likely then not and even then offline coverage still needs to meet the SIGCOV threshold, not just be brief mentions in a match report or a line about a transfer to a new club. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Anxioustoavoid: You should read what I wrote again, because one, I never said the article should be kept, two I said there maybe possible coverage of his time in WW2, and three, there will be offline coverage of him, maybe you need to also read what you wrote!! Govvy (talk) 22:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There "will be offline coverage" because you said so. Righto. Good stuff. Nice use of exclamation marks by the way. Always adds to the gravitas of a discussion. I've read what I wrote and I'm quite happy with it thanks. It's only an online discussion about an online article about a bloke who's been deceased 43 years. Try not to get too worked up. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am curious, you're previous account was Renamed user ac8ad20534e6799c8dc59f4ac091f579 account (obviously a changed username) which is globally locked. That was only there for six months. And before that? Are you some kind of professional sock? Govvy (talk) 08:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I owe you an explanation but here it is. I asked for my previous account to be closed after getting really mad one day over an issue with a user who was clearly using multiple accounts and IP addresses to continually incorrectly change a group of boxers nationalities and no-one would intervene to stop this. I lost my head so to speak and quit, then decided to come back with this account a few weeks later. Never had an account before then. Going to attack the editor because you can't attack my argument I presume? Another thing which factored into my quitting Wikipedia previously. My username refers to me being anxious to avoid all the pettiness on Wikipedia but it seems I have become embroiled in it for a second time. Partly my fault for engaging with you I accept but there we go. I will not be engaging further with you so say/do what you like. As you will see from my edit history - which since you went to the effort of tracking down my previous account I'm sure you have already looked at - I'm not exactly prolific on here so if it makes you happy to seek to have me banned then go right ahead. I won't fight it and you can get a warm feeling inside. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 10:23, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:49, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Sias

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Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only references in the article are primary and I couldn't find anything better elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 12:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:52, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Pena

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3 professional appearances, nothing on the Romanian wikipedia. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete I had a look at the Romanian wiki and nothing really there either apart from it says Roma actually loaned him to Dinamo București only for them to shove him in their reserve squad. He was then sold to Bari from Roma but didn't really make any success. And there is a retirement post. What I found was pretty much WP:ROUTINE and no where near enough to show WP:GNG. So I honestly don't see enough unless someone proves me wrong. Govvy (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of WP:SIGCOV. I just found this. Svartner (talk) 22:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Could not find any SIGCOV. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 13:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject Fails GNG, fails WP:SIGCOV Allblessed (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Iike

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Previously nominated. 6 professional league appearances, hasn't played since 2014. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 16:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I found details of appearances in another Japanese league but turns out it was at an even lower level. No non-trivial sources available from the Japanese language version of this page. C 679 07:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Barajas

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The subject appears to have played at the highest level for the developmental team of Atlanta United before eventually going to the fourth tier of German football where he is no longer listed as a member of the team. He may have possibly retired. https://lsk-hansa.de/mannschaften/1-herren-landesliga-lueneburg/ WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Yet more non-notable footyspam. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Barajas

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The subject appears to have only played four games for LA Galaxy's developmental team before switching to collegiate soccer and then afterwards he does not appear to have signed with any team. The article seems to have been made with the expectation that the subject would be notable. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Career sadly did not pan out. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 17:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Banks (American soccer)

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The subject appears to have only played a single season in the third tier of American soccer before possibly retiring from the sport. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't look to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ithamar Romanos

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Clear fail of GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources (such as [27]) are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 16:05, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Just one is too little for WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I suppose the one source in the comment above is fine, but that's all we have .I can't find any about this individual, so this fails notability requirements by not having enough coverage in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 01:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Lebanon women's international footballers as WP:ATD. C 679 07:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Christelle Bedran

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Clear fail of WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, contested prod. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources (such as [28]) are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:31, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lebanese Football Association is a primary website. One source is not enough to demonstrate notability, even if it contains IRS SIGCOV. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FA Lebanon is not the Lebanese Football Association. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 14:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:24, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep—Although I recognize that FA Lebanon is not the Lebanese Football Association, and thus I believe the above source is valid, I'm not sure it's enough to bring this article fully into WP:SIGCOV compliance. That said, if we take the policy exactly by its letter, I think this article creeps barely over the line. Anwegmann (talk) 19:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samuel Biek

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Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The best I could find was a few sentences at [[29]] and an interview at [[30]], but without better sourcing this subject doesn't meet the notability guidelines. Let'srun (talk) 15:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article from Oberhessische Presse looks like SIGCOV: https://archive.is/2hKhp Robby.is.on (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Alopua Petoa

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Was deleted before by discussion, and the talk page of the article indicates SIGCOV has still not been met. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Tuvalu national football team#Player records – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 04:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Svartner: Tuvalu has limited media and the fact that he was clearly one of the pre-eminent athletes of Tuvalu and has received international coverage (as shown in the article) speaks for itself. Clearly significant figure in Tuvalu with sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—Clearly fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anwegmann:, @Svartner:, He does have sources, also See what I said above, also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Okilani Tinilau (2nd nomination). Thanks, 21:43, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

There is no source with in-depth coverage, but as I said above, it is possible to redirect to the player stats section, since he is one of the players who scored the most goals. For Tuvaluan footballers, a list of athletes who served the national team seems more appropriate to me. Svartner (talk) 23:20, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG and SIGCOV. The existing references are either brief mentions in match reports, non-independent as they are from the Tuvalu FA or are brief transfer reports about him joining a Dutch Sunday League team which is hardly a notable thing as there are many thousands of Sunday League footballers who do not warrant an article on Wikipedia. I can't find anything substantial on him independently either. I also suggest something is done to stop this being recreated as it has already been through AFD twice and deleted only to be recreated and brought back to AFD. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Dutch sources literally say he is the best Tuvaluan footballer and all-time top scorer of national team. Again, this is about context and he was clearly one of Tuvalu's pre-eminent athletes who even received foreign coverage. Defnitely a signifcant figure in Tuvalu overall. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Okilani Tinilau (2nd nomination). Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 09:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - As stated above, He gets a lot of media for someone who comes from a country with barely any media, let alone football media. Again, context is everything. He is likely one of most prominent Tuvaluan athletes in history and is likely well-known in Tuvalu. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:02, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Das osmnezz makes a good point. "Significant" coverage is relative. For a country like Tuvalu, his coverage in international (Dutch) media is significant. 24.170.37.45 (talk) 01:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assile Toufaily

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Fails GNG; lacks WP:SIGCOV. Contested prod Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, sources are enough to demonstrate notability of the subject. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:17, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Nehme, appears to have enough sources to show notability. Giant Snowman 09:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep' passes WP:NSPORT per the career stats. Patre23 (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody can pass any guideline through stats. Geschichte (talk) 13:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I prepared a source analysis to aid the discussion. Almost all of the sources appear to be primary in their nature.

Source assessment table prepared by User:Cloudz679
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://globalsportsarchive.com/people/soccer/assile-toufaily/291294/			The source contains stats only	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20150721102948/http://www.the-afc.com/afcasfeeds?fixtureid=8457&stageid=337&tMode=C&view=ajax&show=matchsummary	Confederation has a direct relationship with the player		The source contains stats only	✘ No
https://rdsfootball.wordpress.com/2022/07/17/enquete-le-chemin-vers-la-professionnalisation-au-liban/	The source suggests that the work is based on a discussion with the subject	The source is a personal blog hosted on WordPress		✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waa1CV4oE8M	The source is a video interview with the subject			✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20200724041555/http://arabia.eurosport.com/article/كرة-القدم/الدوري-اللبناني/كرة-القدم-النسائية-تجتاز-الحواجز-وتتسلق-القمة	The source appears to include quotes directly from the player herself, which is primary			✘ No
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bya6GG2JCq0/	Primary source - club has a direct relationship with the player		routine announcement	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20170425070405/http://www.netmedyouth.org/highlights/assile-toufaily-yes-women-can-play-football	Interview with the player - primary source			✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

C 679 07:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Lebanon women's international footballers as WP:ATD based on the source analysis above. C 679 08:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC) Redirect to List of Lebanon women's international footballers - per the above source analysis. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:57, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging participants Nehme1499 — GiantSnowman — Patre23 — Geschichte: to share review of source analysis. C 679 17:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy for a redirect, if not kept. Giant Snowman 18:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Patrick Høhl

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 12:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Ephemeral career in the Danish minor leagues, no evidence he meets the GNG, and has never met any iteration of NHOCKEY. How this slipped through the cracks for 17 years is eyepopping. Ravenswing 19:18, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 22:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samuele Pugliese

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Does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for sports and athletics, nor for kick boxing HeinzMaster (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Classic case of TOOSOON. Doesnt meet NKICK or GNG. Nswix (talk) 15:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet WP:NKICK. Lekkha Moun (talk) 10:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet WP:NKICK and my search didn't find significant independent coverage that shows WP:GNG is met. Interestingly, I got more hits for a dancer with this name than for the kickboxer. Papaursa (talk) 03:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of current Combate Global fighters

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Incomplete list, no one notable linked on it. Minor organization. Just no need for it. Nswix (talk) 05:07, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment A very incomplete unsourced list of CG fighters with none of them being WP notable. Leaning towards delete, but will wait to give someone a chance to salvage the article. I'm not sure of the notability of the organization, but I think it's strange that its website lists no champions in any of its divisions. That's a discussion for another time. Papaursa (talk) 15:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete For the reasons I mentioned above. Papaursa (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Benjamin Stewart

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Non notable kickboxer. This article initially appears notable but when you look deeper it doesn't meet WP:NKICKN, WP:SPORTBASICN, WP:GNGN. It also has a lot of promotional aspects such as: the name of his private non-notable company, the name of his children: "They have three children together: Sidney, Saryna, and Sterling", the entire sections "Early life", "Corporate career", "Personal life", passage like "conditioned and rehabilitated himself through hot yoga"??? and majority of the "championships" entries are completely unsourced, potential COI? The article screams vanity page to promote the subject's business interests and self-published non-notable books. This article is as promotional as it gets.

The subject's wins in WKA, WKU or WAKO are in amateur kickboxing (Point Fighting or light contact Kick Boxing) which doesn't pass WP:NKICK. The subject hasn't fought outside of these amateur competitions, and hasn't fought professional kickboxing (unlike Dragan Jovanović for example who went on to fight Pro kick). According to WP:NKICK: Kickboxers who have an amateur background exclusively are not notable under this guideline unless they have been the subject examined in detail (more than a single paragraph) in several reliable third-party sources (at least four), excluding local publications. The subject has only been covered in some local minor publications such as the subject's home city of Ottawa: inside ottawa valley.com. Which is even filled with a total of 20+ mistakes. Lekkha Moun (talk) 19:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment NKICK seems a tad strict. It wants "at least four" pieces of SIGCOV, excluding local? That's a higher bar than GNG.

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If you have an issue with NKICK you are welcome to start a conversion about it, but in the meantime we have to base our decision to the agreed current guidelines. The subject is an amateur kickboxer and the guidelines for amateur kickboxing athletes are extremely appropriate, because it should require a lot in order to be notable as an amateur. There are so many non-notable martial arts competitions out there where you can become a "world champion" with only a few participants per category, that's why quality SIGCOV has been requested. Lekkha Moun (talk) 08:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Doesn't meet GNG. Besides the debate about NKICK, this is almost certainly a vanity page. Nswix (talk) 05:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Zongshen 200 GS

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Fails WP:GNG. I could not find sufficient sources to establish notability. Golem08 (talk) 18:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I could only find forums or parts listings. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 22:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Zongshen, some of the content could be salvageable. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 12:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Garry Willmington

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Fails WP:SPORTSPERSON and GNG. No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Article consists of only a few sentences, with minimal content and poor sourcing. Subject appears not to meet the notability criteria for sports figures. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair enough, he was on the "Most Wanted Articles" list, but whatever. Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 02:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify... I guess? He had a very long term racing career and competed in several Bathursts, which is a major accomplishment. There's also a bit of coverage about the circuit he created. However, very little of the sources I can find have full length stories about him, although there are a LOT of passing mentions. I feel that if more digging was done into offline sources, he could be notable. Additionally, I've found two sources that could potentially be used: the first one ([31]) I have absolutely no idea what it's talking about but it seems like mildly decent coverage, and I found a second ([32]) article which looks good on the outside but I can't access because it is pay walled. Hoping some V8/ATCC editors will be able to improve this. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 20:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I second that Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 00:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm okay with draftifying / userifying. Formal vote to Userify InvisibleUser909 (talk) 16:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm in favor of that Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rugby league

O'Loughlin Farrell family

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No sources cover this family as a concept. // Hippo43 (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article was full of sources that discussed the family connections and rugby heritage, and I have added additional sources to the lede which refer to "the O’Loughlin/Farrell family" and "the Farrell-O'Loughlin family". EdwardUK (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Well sourced article. Family concept talked about in some references in the Genealogical references section, in addition to the one's added to lead since AfD nomination. Mn1548 (talk) 12:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby union

O'Loughlin Farrell family

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No sources cover this family as a concept. // Hippo43 (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article was full of sources that discussed the family connections and rugby heritage, and I have added additional sources to the lede which refer to "the O’Loughlin/Farrell family" and "the Farrell-O'Loughlin family". EdwardUK (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Well sourced article. Family concept talked about in some references in the Genealogical references section, in addition to the one's added to lead since AfD nomination. Mn1548 (talk) 12:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Past Sharks squads

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Fails WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. We don't keep lists like this. Readers who may be interested in previous players can see historic players at List of Sharks (rugby union) players, transfer lists for URC and Super Rugby competitions and season pages. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not opposed to merging this with the List of Sharks (rugby union) players, subject to resolution of the distinction of Currie Cup vs URC players, as if those players - who meet notability requirements - are excluded then List of Sharks (rugby union) players is incomplete. Whybeetoo (talk) 11:04, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This would be dependent on the outcome of the discussion on the WikiProject. I'd be opposed to full squad boxes but if we can find information on Currie Cup players (which I found incredibly difficult in creating this list) then can be added in another section if consensus reached. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2008 NERFU college men's Division III rugby tournament

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this event to warrant a standalone article. PROD was contested in favor of a redirect or merge to New England Rugby Football Union. JTtheOG (talk) 19:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@JTtheOG, since you brought this to AfD, I assume you're opposed to merge and redirect WP:ATDs. Is this true and if so why? ~Kvng (talk) 15:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2007 NERFU college men's Division IV rugby tournament

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this event to warrant a standalone article. PROD was contested in favor of a redirect or merge to New England Rugby Football Union. JTtheOG (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@JTtheOG, since you brought this to AfD, I assume you're opposed to merge and redirect WP:ATDs. Is this true and if so why? ~Kvng (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kvng: Not at all. I would just rather allow time for sourcing to be found than boldly merge/redirecting. The chances here seem slim, but you'd be surprised at the coverage that can be dug up in these situations. JTtheOG (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Past Sharks junior squads

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Almost all of the players in this list are not notable. Louis (talk) (contribs) 15:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This is false. They are notable in so far as they record who played for a major club side, some of which end up playing for other teams. If that information is not recorded then it is lost, making it impossible to track player development and also maintain the history of a significant rugby club. For me this is like removing films from a director's filmography because they are not critically acclaimed. Whybeetoo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RU/N they are not notable. "Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG." See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability#Biographies. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But these are not Biographies? And so that section doesnt apply. This is a page that allows the tracking of player development over an extended period, allowing a reader to understand the health of a junior system. Its not a list of biographies. Secondly these are not youth players, these are professionally contracted rugby players, all above the age of 18. Whybeetoo (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, WP:SIGCOV. A google search of "Sharks Junior Squad" reveals minimal results with all those relating to this topic being from primary sources. A new catogary would be better suited for this ie: Category:Sharks (rugby union) junior players (or similar) for any players that pass GNG of WP:RU/N Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you google the component teams of the Junior Squad you get substantial mentions from multiple sources. This includes multiple independently sourced press coverage. Sharks u21, u20, u19 etc. The Junior Squad is just a catch all term for players contracted but eligible for these teams. The mentions are not trivial or in passing, they are articles specifically written about these teams and often these players. Whybeetoo (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is mostly fancruft which fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. The sourcing present is just team announcements for junior rugby competitions. Perhaps a small separate section on Sharks (Currie Cup) could be added to mention the U21 side and players representing their county at U20 level but this is complete overkill. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please detail how it fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST so your claim can be evaluated. Not all Wikipedia content requires individual notability if the topic itself has informative or encyclopedic value. Squad tracking serves a research and documentation role akin to sports archives or player pathway databases. Whybeetoo (talk) 09:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG as there is no sustained coverage of the sides and the players that partake. Fails WP:NLIST as it's not discussed in reliable sourcing similar to GNG. If Wikipedia was a sports oracle of SA Rugby oracle then could perhaps be included, but this is just fancruft for me with no encyclopedic value. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edmonton Rugby Union

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This is an amateur sporting organization which fails to meet WP:GNG due to the lack of WP:SIGCOV. I found sources online that it exists, but nothing that was third party, independent, nor reliable, and no source has ever been added to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: While this may appear to be the second nomination, that is only true on a standalone basis; it was first nominated in 2014 in a bundled nomination that failed as "no consensus". This is why the first standalone nomination, which attracted absolutely no comments at all, itself ended as "no consensus" (as soft deletion is considered a form of PROD, it only applies to never-previously-nominated articles; a more-direct PROD had previously been procedurally declined due to the 2014 bundled AfD). I have no opinion at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Redirect to Rugby Alberta per nom --Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:19, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tennis

Dabrowski-Stefani tennis partnership

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Don’t think this is a particularly notable doubles pairing. Way below the bar that this wikiproject uses to start creating such articles. They only played together for not even four full seasons and didn’t even reach one grand slam final together. There are plenty of teams who one WTA 1000 title together, that’s not something extraordinary. T v x1 16:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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To be fair, this article started as a draft, it was reviewed by an editor and approved to be published as an article, then other editors from the tennis wiki saw it, helped to improve it and did not find anything wrong with it Haddad Maia fan (talk) Haddad Maia fan (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft reviewers only tend to check whether it technically complies with the site’s requirements (prose quality and style, sourcing,…). They don’t judge whether the subject merits an article. T v x1 17:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 21:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Svartner What's the point in draftifying this when the team no longer exists? Dabrowski is one half of a far more successful team with Erin Routliffe which has won Grand Slam titles and would be worthy of an article, while Stefani has had several different partners since this team ceased in 2023. They are very unlikely to get back together so nothing new will happen to add. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 08:32, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete For all the reasons stated by the nominator. All the information in this article is already in, or could be added to, each of the two individual players articles. We are not talking about a team like the Bryan brothers or Krejčíková/Siniaková here. This pairing had moderate success and then split up like hundreds of other partnerships have and will in the future. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 08:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestling

Jan Stehlík (wrestler)

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 02:07, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Wrestling at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman featherweight. FromCzech (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per FromCzech. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 07:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Wrestling at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman featherweight Skycloud86 (talk) 11:42, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gustaf Nilsson (wrestler)

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Redirect to Sweden at the 1920 Summer Olympics, because I could not find any in-depth coverage of him to meet WP:GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 08:53, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. More sources can be found in the newspaper archive of the Royal Library of Sweden, http://tidningar.kb.se. I've added a couple of references. /Julle (talk) 19:38, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per new sources added by Julle, appears to be two relatively solid examples of newspaper SIGCOV. FOARP (talk) 21:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per the coverage found by Julie, this subject has the WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. Let'srun (talk) 21:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as usual, when newspaper archives are searched, SIGCOV is found on Olympians. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tiana Ringer

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No notable, independent wrestler. Sources are mostly WP:ROUTINE results, lack of in-deep third party sources about her. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unable to find any WP:SIGCOV here for this WP:BLP. Let'srun (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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