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July 10

Paolo Banchero

Why is Paolo Banchero referred to as an American basketball player on the branded card when it shows up on a google search?

Paolo is both an American & Italian citizen and will be playing for Italy internationally. Just like Giannis Antetokounmpo is referred to as a Greek-Nigerian, Paolo Banchero should be referred to as an American-Italian.

By removing Paolo's Italian nationality, you are removing part of his identity. Allan.waterhouse (talk) 00:06, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Allan.waterhouse: Is there a Wikipedia article this refers to? You mention Google search, so this may be another case of information presented by the Google Knowledge Graph, which can present information from mutiple sources in a confusing way. RudolfRed (talk) 00:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi RudolfRed, Someone just fixed it. Or it got updated by itself.. Problem solved. Thank you. Allan.waterhouse (talk) 00:42, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Allan.waterhouse: You changed it to American-Italian in the Wikipedia article. We don't control Google. Their Knowledge Graph ("information box") in the upper right corner of many searches is not made by us. Google may copy us with a delay or include information from other sources, often in a way that causes people to incorrectly think it's from Wikipedia (the issue at Template:HD/GKG). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I understand. I first changed it yesterday. Must take a few hours to update. There is someone who keeps trying to remove his Italian nationality. Allan.waterhouse (talk) 00:58, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Can someone put a Pre-emptive protection block on his bio? The Olympic Games offical page quote: Born in Seattle, Washington, on 12th November 2002, Paolo Banchero is an Italian-American who received Italian citizenship in 2020 and was selected for the Italy squad for the EuroBasket 2022 qualifiers, telling FIBA, "Italy gave me a chance I couldn't refuse, to play at the senior level."I'm proud to wear the Azzurri jersey," he added, "I will never forget when I received it for the first time. It is framed in my room. I'm proud to be playing for Italy, and proud about the heritage of my family." Source: https://olympics.com/en/news/who-is-paolo-banchero-italian-american-picked-first-by-orlando-magic-in-2022-nba Allan.waterhouse (talk) 01:04, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Allan.waterhouse: You should discuss it on the article's talk page. Be careful of edit warring. RudolfRed (talk) 01:23, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Allan.waterhouse: Also, you should not be marking your edits as minor. A minor edit is something like fixing a typo. See WP:MINOR for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 01:34, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for telling me. I'm sorry. I won't mark it as minor again. Allan.waterhouse (talk) 01:40, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Page protection is applied as a response to vandalism or disruptive editing, not preemptively, and not because one editor wants to lock the article to present a particular view, however justified that editor might feel that view is. Please see WP:NO-PREEMPT. ColinFine (talk) 12:11, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Redirecting article to Deaths in 2022

I am struggling to redirect the article entitled "Mihăiţă Niţulescu" to Deaths in 2022. The spelling of the name in the list of Deaths in 2022 was incorect, so I changed it. I suspect the link is broken and needs fixing? Andymcteddybear (talk) 00:40, 10 July 2022 (UTC) Andymcteddybear (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Andymcteddybear: I Fixed the Wikilink to the article by copy pasting the article name to make sure all the special characters are correct. I assume this is what you wanted instead of a redirect. RudolfRed (talk) 01:22, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Andymcteddybear: Diacritics can be tricky. Copy-pasting is the way to go. You had ț instead of ţ. I'm not sure which character is actually most correct here but the article Mihăiţă Niţulescu uses the latter. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:24, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much. That's exactly what I wanted. I will copy and paste in future. Andymcteddybear (talk) 07:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I have made a note to cut and paste in future. Andymcteddybear (talk) 07:38, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

And I have edited and moved Mihăiţă Niţulescu so that it is now spelt correctly in Romanian, as Mihăiță Nițulescu, and fixed the link in Deaths in 2022. Thanks for pointing that out Andymcteddybear. --ColinFine (talk) 12:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that the link has been fixed too! Andymcteddybear (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia should remove movie spoilers

Please consider removing and banning movie spoilers from Wikipedia. They ruin great movies for new generations who haven’t had a chance to see them yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9591:1120:3895:154F:4EE8:E264 (talk) 03:54, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:SPOILER for reference. Plot summaries are considered important part about articles about films and TV programs and it can near be impossible in some cases to know when someone is going to watch a particular film or TV program, or even what they would consider to be a spoiler. My suggestion to you would be to avoid articles of any type (Wikipedia, newspaper, online, etc.) about films and TV shows you want to see until you've actually seen them. When I DVR something I want to watch later like a sporting event, I try to keep myself in a self-imposed media free bubble to avoid finding out the result by mistake beforehand. — Marchjuly (talk) 04:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Account varnishing

A good place to start — TNT (talk • she/her) 21:07, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

How do we varnish an account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.96.5.198 (talk) 05:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

See the instructions at WP:VANISH. Accounts need to be in good standing to be eligible(i.e. not blocked). 331dot (talk) 06:35, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Or you could try applying 2 coats of polyurethane with a soft brush. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.225.65 (talk) 20:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Publishing a new page

I have written in my sandboxa page about FEMTEC (www.femteconline.org) a federation of 40 countries in the medical sector, therefore a very important contribution.

But now I don't know what to do, Wikipedia information is very poor about publishing:

1) There are other organization with the same name FEMTEC: what should I do?

2) What happens if I click the PUBLISH PAGE button? How the system can know the page title should be FEMTEC? Massimo1940 (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Massimo1940 Wikipedia has articles, not pages. "Publish changes" should be interpreted to mean "save changes", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". It is worded that way to emphasize that all edits are public. Your draft was lacking the information to submit it for review, I have added it. (It's provided if you use Articles for creation). Do not worry about the title, if accepted, the review will place it at the proper title. 331dot (talk) 10:43, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your very helpful note. I believe the words must have a clear meaning: I just wanted to save my article for further improvement and I wasted a day trying to figure out how. So I think that writing "PUBLISH" is a serious communication error. There are many ways to express a concept correctly and without creating confusion: why not write "SAVE A PUBLIC CONTENT"? Massimo1940 (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

It used to be called "save" but we ended up with issues regarding load of people not realising that "saving" their edits made them public and anyone would be able to see them, "Publish page" was chosen as an alternative to try to make this clearer. "SAVE A PUBLIC CONTENT" is ungrammatical, also uses non-standard names that aren't in use anywhere else (what is a "public content"?), and too long to go on a button at the bottom of the page - space constraints, especially on mobile devices, limit the amount of text on the button to one or two words. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Massimo1940: Sadly, the word "publish" does have a very specific and clear definition in copyright law, and sadly, the WMF lawyers required that we rename that button to reflect that meaning. "Publish" means "to make available to the public", and you do that in its legal sense when you save anything on this site. It is the term that is used in our "terms of use" that you must agree to to use this site, Whenever you save anything, you are licenseing your copyright in the material to the world under the CC-BY-SA license. -Arch dude (talk) 13:19, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about an organization and what it does; any article about this organization must only summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

The proposed article contains a significant amount of text copy-pasted from the organisation's website: see WP:COPYOTHERS for why this cannot be accepted. And note also that any claims regarding medical/therapeutic effects of treatment need to be supported by citations to WP:MEDRS-compliant publications. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:59, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Declining a draft

Does it require some more permissions? I am trying to decline one draft but failed. It will be really helpful if anyone could assist me. Thanks. zoglophie 12:03, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Zoglophie You need to be a member of the articles for creation wikiproject and have access to the Articles for creation user scripts to review drafts. For the criteria to become a reviewer see Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants, if you think that you meet those criteria and would like to request access to the tools then put in an request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 12:13, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for your quick response, 192.76.8.85. zoglophie 12:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Policy on RS when it comes to factuality

Currently involved in an article about a current event where an involved third party not present at the event is making assertions about the details of the event. Some contributors are insisting that the third party's comments be included as long as they are not in the Wikipedia voice and attributed to the third party, while others are contending that because the third party didn't witness the event their assertions cannot be verified and should not be included. I'm aware of WP:RS and WP:VNT I'm wondering if there are other relevant policies in this area since I expect this is something that comes up frequently. WP:NEWSOPED comes to mind but in this case the third party is not a news source.

I'm not asking for anyone to get involved in the specific content dispute (to which I am intentionally not referring) just looking for guidance on other relevant policies in this area.

Thanks for your time and consideration. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

The help desk is mainly for very basic questions about how Wikipedia works. This inquiry seems more suited for WP:RSN, a dedicated note board for discussing the suitability of specific sources, Beeblebrox (talk) 16:12, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, will cross-post. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:16, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

photo deletion.

I am not happy with the profile photo submitted with out my permission. how do I delete and ad a profile photo of myself I approve? Dcd2 (talk) 18:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Dcd2: Start by abandoning any notion Wikipedia is social media. Second, verify the copyright status of the image, as we do not allow fair-use images of living people on Wikipedia. If you own the copyright outright (note that this is not equivalent to owning a copy of the image) then upload it to Wikimedia Commons. If you do not, have the copyright holder read this page and follow the instructions on it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 19:03, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

It is NOT a profile photo either, Wikipedia has articles not profiles, which article are you referring to? Theroadislong (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

well it would be the only one that comes up ,in its own box, next to the start of the profile about me. sorry, article.

it says, David Carson, above my photo, then captions the photo when it was taken, then list my birth date and place, my nationality "known for".

I would tend to say certainly no article contained in that opening photo box you guys do.

while abandoning any notion of wikipedia as a social media, common sense would dictate the conclusion this as a profile photo- ie a head shot next to the beginning of the article about a person, in its own box.

maybe start by abandoning the notion that Wikipedia articles are somehow not profiles. mine sure is. filled with old and wrong information, and a poorly chosen head shot next to the start of the profile.

it was/is really a pretty simple question. how do I delete the head shot I have permission to delete from the photographer. he said he 'sent a bunch and wikipedia chose there favorite'. im just trying to replace it, with the photographers permission, not debate the terms articles vs profiles. Dcd2 (talk) 22:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: David Carson (graphic designer)

@Dcd2: The image in question is hosted on Wikimedia Commons. Funny you should mention "old and wrong information", too - I'm going to be gutting all the unsourced junk out of that article. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 22:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

And with all the unsourced information removed, let's discuss your other bullets.

• "I would tend to say certainly no article contained in that opening photo box you guys do." - The infobox is part of the article and not the entire thing. Strictly speaking, an infobox is not required for an article, and it, too, has to adhere to sourcing requirements - which is why I've removed it completely, image and all.
• "while abandoning any notion of wikipedia as a social media, common sense would dictate the conclusion this as a profile photo- ie a head shot next to the beginning of the article about a person, in its own box." Infobox images are, strictly speaking, not required to be headshots if we're discussing people. There are a fair few of them which are full-body shots taken by photographers at public events. If anything, a plain headshot often raises questions about its provenance, doubly so if it looks professionally-done.
• "maybe start by abandoning the notion that Wikipedia articles are somehow not profiles." "Profile" assumes either a brief, content-free listing of random assortments of trivia or a social media account page. A Wikipedia article should be neither of them - it should be an encyclopaedia article written in prose and based on what news or scholarly sources unconnected to the subject and subjected to rigourous vetting and fact-checking have said, with said sources cited as necessary in the article.
• "...filled with old and wrong information..." Which is why I gutted the article. If it isn't sourced, we must assume it's dead-wrong. We've been burnt by stuff like this before and so we have to be hardcases about sourcing.
• "he said he 'sent a bunch and wikipedia chose there favorite'." If he "sent in a bunch" then all of the ones he sent in should be on Wikimedia Commons if all of them had licensing comparable to what the headshot had (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike). At that point, any decision on what image to use should have been a matter of choice on the editors' end. (And for what it is worth, the image was changed to the headshot last year - before that, the image used was this one.)
• "im just trying to replace it, with the photographers permission..." You having the permission is completely meaningless, as Wikipedia is the one hosting the content, and the photographer would need to go thru WP:Donating copyrighted materials - which, considering they had managed to get the image uploaded to Commons (and their far stricter image policies) in the first place, begs the question: Did he forget he sent in "a bunch" of images in the first place, or is this a wholly-unnecessary appeal to authority here?

That is my reading of your post and rebuttals to it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 23:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

thank you for your help. the article in question, tho quite dated, is now much better and accurate. stay well. Dcd2 (talk) 09:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Dcd2, I suggest that you take a selfie, a good picture with you facing the camera and not looking supercilious, wearing shades, etc.; and upload it to Wikimedia Commons, claiming it as your own work and releasing the copyright. Then you can post on the article's talk page, giving a link to the Commons picture, pointing out that it's better than the one in use, and requesting that someone replace that version. Maproom (talk) 19:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

thank you! very helpful. Dcd2 (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Blocking or Warning

Hello. I just reverted vandalism on 2022 New York Yankees season. Should the person who made the vandalism be blocked or warned? If so how would this be done? Thanks. Cherrell410 (talk) 21:18, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

If an admin is reading this, they might want to review the range 2601:CD:C581:4040:*. A quick look suggests that all the edits going back to April are unconstructive and there have been several warnings. TSventon (talk) 22:22, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Cherrell410, this seems to be an editor using the /64 range 2601:CD:C581:4040::/64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). All their edits have been reverted and they have been warned several times about unconstructive editing so I gave them a final warning here. If they continue to edit unconstructively they could be reported at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. TSventon (talk) 06:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Displaying Table of Contents on Mobile Device

When I am viewing a Wikipedia page from a computer using a web browser, the display begins with a table of contents that is constructed from the levels of headings. When I am viewing a Wikipedia page from a Samsung Galaxy mobile device using a web browser, in desktop mode, the display omits the table of contents and starts with the lede section of an article or first entry of a talk page. How do I get it to display the table of contents before displaying the contents of the page? (Please don't tell me that this is a problem with mobile view or with the mobile app. I know. I am already using a web browser, in Desktop mode.) Robert McClenon (talk) 23:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: with all web browsers on all PCs I have used for the last 16 years, the lede is displayed first, followed by the table of contents. Your Samsung is acting normally. Your computer's web browser is not. -Arch dude (talk) 02:34, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, I have been editing Wikipedia on a variety Android smartphones for ten years, almost always using the desktop site. I have never once seen the table of contents displayed before the lead section. Cullen328 (talk) 02:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, User:Cullen328, User:Arch dude. I was mistaken in one detail, and this may have caused confusion, but there still is a problem. It is true that the lede section of an article is displayed before the table of contents on a computer. But the table of contents is not being displayed at all on my Android in desktop mode. So my computer's web browser is acting as you describe. So how do I display a table of contents on a mobile device? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Is there a preference that I need to set? Is there a Setting on my mobile device that I need to set? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: If you are using the mobile browser version (i.e. the page address includes .m.wikipedia) then, as Cullen328 states above, there is no table of contents. You already know that you can switch to the desktop version of the page using the "Desktop" link at the bottom of the page, but formatting and layout are less optimal for use on small portrait-oriented devices (the contents list is uselessly small). I suspect this is all legacy stuff, with any sensible improvements to presentation, such as using responsive layouts, getting consistently frustrated by WP bureaucracy. I got fed-up with both versions on mobile devices and have taken to using the Wikipedia Android app for browsing and editing; it has a pinned, swipe-from-right contents list for pages. Bazza (talk) 09:46, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for having been sloppy in saying where the table of contents is on my computer. The issue is that it isn't anywhere on my phone. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Safari on my iPhone displays the table of contents on desktop. I don't have a Samsung or Android device. Please always give an example. Does it happen on the article Wikipedia? Is there no small box saying "Contents [show]" right before the "History" section? Does it happen if you are logged out? Does it happen on a safemode link? Is there a "Mobile view" link at the bottom of the page (confirming you are currently on the normal desktop version)? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Aha! I see the problem. The Table of Contents is collapsed and I missed it. My error. I didnt see the link thing to expand it! Thank you! McClenon mobile (talk) 18:02, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

July 11

Edits to Rege Jean Page entry

Hello, I am making a constructive Edit to a Wikipedia page and I am being told by another editor that it is not appropriate. I have explained my reasoning, and think it's in the rules and scope of Wikipedia. Can you please help me understand why these are called inappropriate? I am looking at other biography entries and see similar information being provide.d Teachr332 (talk) 01:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Teachr332, you seem to keep trying to add a recent dating relationship to the article, which you think is notable. Another editor thinks it is not, and that type of information belongs on a fansite and not an encyclopedia. There is no discussion on the talkpage of the article (Talk:Regé-Jean Page). This is a content dispute and if an agreement cannot be reached on the TP, then there are methods for WP:DISPUTE RESOLUTION. Do not continue to WP:EDITWAR, Wikipedia works by reaching WP:CONSENSUS. MB 01:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Teachr332, in my opinion, you are trying hard to add gossipy content to this article. Plus, you are pretty close to edit warring, which is behavior that can result in a block. So, I advise you to rethink your approach, and gain consensus for your proposed changes at Talk: Regé-Jean Page. Cullen328 (talk) 02:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi -- I am sorry, I am new to Wikipedia editing and do not wish to start a war. So thanks for letting me know how to dispute. I tried to defend my points, but it seems it needs to be done on the page. I will do that, because I believe my edits are appropriate information for a biography of a living person. Thanks. Teachr332 (talk) 02:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Teachr332: See also the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle essay, which reinforces the advice you received above. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. That was helpful. I think this was resolved in the meantime, but that article helps me understand how to edit collaboratively. Teachr332 (talk) 04:09, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

My godson wants to help edit Australian Football pages

Hi, hope you can help. My 14 yo autistic grandchild has a total passion for Australian Rules Football statistics and obscure details relating to this sport. He has an almost total photographic recall of all data relating to all past game. A few months ago, he informed me he was editing data on pages where the details e.g. the scores of a game had been incorrectly reported by the producer of the entry. I was encouraging of his efforts but quite surprised he had been able to figure out how to do the edits by himself because he still struggles with literacy skills. Anyway, this was seemingly going along well for a few months until he informed me one day he had been banned from doing any more editing but was not sure why. I told him I'd look into it and help him get over this hurdle if its possible. I have some idea to continue in this role he probably needs to be registered with the Wiki community. By the way, I cross checked a few of the statistical corrections he had made and they were always correct. Can you please advise how to proceed? I myself am an oldy but Wiki is something very precious to me and, although a pensioner, I provide a small amount of funding to this critical project every year. John Quelch Geelong, Australia 58.179.176.196 (talk) 04:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that your grandson is using his own memory, which can't be verified, a key component of Wikipedia. Other people need to know where that information comes from, and that is given by reliable sources. This means that even if what your grandson recalls is the truth, that's not how Wikipedia works. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello John, I have two blindingly intelligent and detail-focused (excuse the inadequate term!) grandchildren aged 17 and 19, so I am fully aware of the scenario. (I well remember, when our grandson lived with my wife and me, our then 12 or 13-year-old saying "Can't wait till tomorrow when we can discuss string theory, Pappa" -- and being relived that I had 20 hours to swot!). I support Tenryuu's remarks but I can envisage the day when your grandson develops more advanced research skills that will allow him to contribute verifiable material. So my advice is: encourage him to come back in say three years. And in the meantime, speaking from personal experience, you'll need to become rather familiar with the editing process in Wikipedia so you can guide him. Open an account, which makes it easier for communication, including allowing people to catch your attention -- see the clickable elements in this signature? At the Help Desk you'll find plenty of really helpful people who can guide you along the way. Suggestion: look up pre-1950s newspaper articles in Trove, the National Library of Australia's digital newspaper repository, and search for -- say -- Geelong, wait till you see something interesting then add your findings to an existing article. I'd be very interested to find any newspaper articles about industrial action and other measures that contributed to Ford's departure.  :-) Cheers, Simon –  SCHolar44 (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

• The advice above is excellent, but it presupposes that your grandson was actually blocked for making edits without references. If your grandson edited without having registered an account, he might have been blocked through no fault of his own: non-registered users are blocked by IP address, and IP addresses are rotated between subscribers of the same internet service provider, so a block of some IP address might have been caused by person A’s actions but fall on person B. If you can point us to an article your grandson edited (assuming it is not too high-traffic) we can check out who edited it and see if any of those editors have been blocked.

It is not mandatory to register an account to edit Wikipedia, and edits from non-registered users ("IP users") are not supposed to be treated differently than edits from registered users. Registering does have some other advantages, such as being able to be granted some advanced permissions, easier communication with other editors, better attribution of edits, and the avoidance of IP-based blocks.

Finally, please do not give any more money than you can safely contribute. Wikipedia (or more accurately the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization behind it) is not at any risk of folding soon; if anything, the (unpaid) editors think it raises too much money for its own good, and that the alarmist fundraising banners ("Wikipedia needs you" etc.) are deceptive. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:00, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Your grandchild may very well be right in the errors he finds. When he does find something that doesn't match his amazing memory, he just needs to find a published, reliable source that agrees with him. I hope that some of the published sources will be "correct". If he finds a published source, he can correct the article and cite (click here) the source. (He can't make corrections for cases where he can't find a source.) That will be the best outcome for him, and for Wikipedia's readers. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 09:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Colorado Mesa University Student Trustee page deleted?

At one time there was a Wiki page that listed all of the Colorado Mesa University Student Trustees, I was using this for research, but it seems to have been deleted. I wondered if you might have a snap shot that you could send or re-create the page. Thank you. 2600:6C67:2C7F:D3F3:517F:ECA2:6C6A:AB2C (talk) 05:08, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

The page was redirected to Colorado Mesa University after the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colorado Mesa University Student Trustee, so it is unlikely to be re-created, but all of the content is still available in the page history – for example, see Special:Permalink/976174770. DanCherek (talk) 05:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Horrified by a search suggestion

I was looking for "Prime Number Theorem" and I accidentally typed "Prime Nimber Theorem".

I was horrified by the Not Found: did you mean this suggestion. Please fix. 161.168.148.43 (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure how that issue can be fixed. It is a close spelling to what you typed(albeit accidentally). There are legitimate reasons someone might search for that word. Wikipedia is not censored for any reason whatsoever. 331dot (talk) 09:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

In particular, the N-word is used in several article titles. It's an unfortunate suggestion here but hard to do something about without making it more difficult to actually find those articles. I think it would be too much censorship to make a list of offensive words the search suggestion may not suggest. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Every mathematician knows that nimbers are never prime, hence there is no theorem. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk page archive

Hello there, when will cluebot archive my talk page? I have been having lots of issues with it but I think I have sorted it now. I set it to 1 only archive if at least 1 discussion I think, although do you know when this will be? I originally took this to the bot operator although it seems they haven’t been around since January. Thanks! Blanchey 💬 • 📝 17:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Blanchey: Archiving bots usually run once a day. After you reduced minkeepthreads today [1] there should be something to archive in the next run. The time of day for a specific page can vary. You can come back if it hasn't archived in two days. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

You can also perform the archiving manually if required. You may wish to enquire about how to do that. Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library

Since I've been a user on Wikipedia for about 6 months, I'm now elegible for the wikipedia library. Can anybody of you please tell me what is it about and what is its use? ~~~~ ♡Shenshouting♡^{talk and talk} 18:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Shenshouting: The Wikipedia Library lets you access sources in certain databases on websites like JSTOR, ProQuest, De Gruyter, and much more. This can be really helpful if you are trying to locate or access sources for an article, because they would otherwise be behind a paywall. Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library has more information about it, so I recommend trying it out and seeing the available databases for yourself. (There are some collections that automatically come with TWL, and others that you can apply for if you want to access them.) DanCherek (talk) 18:15, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks ♡Shenshouting♡^{talk and talk} 18:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Is this a CopyVio?

On the page for Montcuq, there was an external link to a DailyMotion video, which I'm pretty sure was not properly licenced from the copyright holders. I removed it already

Was this a copyright violaion? QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 20:28, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: Yes. Linking to copyright violations is no different from adding them to the article directly. (See also WP:ELNEVER.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

July 12

Syntax highlighting for editor on mobile view

I have enabled syntax highlighting for the 2017 wikitext editor. However, when I open the mobile edit screen, it does not have syntax highlighting. How can I enable it? I don't see any button for that. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 04:16, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

If you want to use the 2017 wikitext editor, you'll have to edit through https://en.wikipedia.org instead of through https://en.m.wikipedia.org. The mobile editor is not the same as the 2017 wikitext editor. Rummskartoffel 16:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Rollback question

If one has twinkle, why would they ever need the rollback user right—how different is it from the twinkle version? Aza24 (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

If I'm not wrong, Twinkle rollback looks at the history and then uses undo to revert. This results in two requests. Rollback uses one request only. When I was granted Rollback, it wasn't very different from Twinkle, except it doesn't let you un-mark it as a minor edit.

However, Rollback is required to use some tools like SWViewer and Wikipedia:Huggle. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Faulty article

Hi, there seems to be a faulty statement at the beginning of the page Domestic, it seems to summarize the definition in a problematic way.

Kind regards. Murky debate 990 (talk) 11:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you think is "faulty", Murky debate 990 but whatever it is you should specify it in more detail at Talk:Domestic violence against men and see if other editors can reach a WP:CONSENSUS with you to change the text. You could WP:PING a few of the others who have made recent contributions to that article. It has 139 page watchers, so plenty of other editors are interested in it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I've added a comma after "machismo". Does that help? Maproom (talk) 15:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I've changed it a little. I think it's better. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Can you ask for a undelete after somebody has recreated the page with a redirect

Can you do a Requests for undeletion request if somebody has recreated the page you want to restore again and added a redirect? Does that mean the 2nd last version I would like to go back to is wiped permanently. Aaron106 (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, REFUND is willing to handle this kind of request. I have no idea what your second sentence means. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Aaron106 It would be helpful if you provided a link to the name of the article that has become a redirect. Then we could look at its page history, where the older version may well be present. Very little in Wikipedia is gone forever if you know where to look (although stuff like WP:COPYVIO may well be WP:REVDEL). Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

And, indeed, what you are looking for seems to be here Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Mike Turnbull Kinda, but I forgot to go through Requests for undeletion page first. The page has been deleted since 2019 with somebody recreating with a redirect in 2020 but that's basically what it showed. --Aaron106 (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Mike Turnbull My question is it is possible to restore 2019 version of the page after it got deleted with somebody recreating the page in 2020. If you were a administrator, is this possible to do --Aaron106 (talk) 14:09, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it should be according to the deletion logs here (I am not an admin). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

What to do if you think someone is targeting an article maliciously ?

Hello,

I am the subject of a wikipedia article - Nicola Green

Much of the information is incorrect or out of date. I intend to follow wikipedia’s guidelines and I will not directly edit this article. I have been advised to make suggestions on the talk page in order to improve the overall quality of this article and help (if I can) to ensure there are no factual errors.

I have followed all of wikipedia's guidelines and protocols, and yet a single editor continues to remove any edits made (despite them being approved by other editors on the talk page).

They constantly target this article, and yet, when other editors make incorrect changes to this article, this editor does not remove the factual inaccuracies. They seem to monitor my edits with such tenacity that I believe they have malicious intentions. Could someone please advise me how to proceed? Is there anyway I can stop this person from constantly removing all the changes to this article? Or perhaps there is more advice I can follow in order to have this page updated. Once the necessary changes are made is it possible to protect this page from the malicious editor?

Thank you so much NicolaGreen72 (talk) 13:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Follow up at Wikipedia:Teahouse#What_to_do_if_you_think_someone_is_targeting_an_article_maliciously_? to keep all replies in one place. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank so much. Sorry for double posting, I wasn't sure which page to use. NicolaGreen72 (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@NicolaGreen72: I see the discussion you are having on the talk page with @Justlettersandnumbers:. He is a very experienced editor and is not a vandal. I haven't read the edit requests and have no opinion as to what you are asking, but there's probably a good reason they were not implemented. You either need to find better corroborating sources, or change the requests. One thing you should never do is edit yourself. It can be frustrating, but these policies are in place to keep anyone from doing whatever they want to change their articles, including whitewashing and removing reliable content that might be seen as negative. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

whats missing here

please tell which droneship mission till starlink 3-1 is missing on Autonomous spaceport drone ship page's vessel mission section. This https://spacexfleet.com/droneship-data tells us till 94 attempts, remove 2 cancelled attempts form 92 but my count says 91 for starlink 4-11. Please help out. Chinakpradhan (talk) 15:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

There is already a section about this at Talk:Autonomous spaceport drone ship. I'm not quite sure what all of this involves, so maybe other users can have a look at the relevant talk page.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:57, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

A few errors in a PDF file

File:Gauge Chart.pdf contains (at least) a couple of errors, probably typos. As I cannot seem to access any of the originals, I can't find if the errors were introduced by 'quoting' the table, or are actually errors in the original. I've no idea how to proceed here. (even the ISBN mentioned doesn't seem to exist 0-9720525-0-X)

Errors:

AWG 39 (first column):

Columns 3 and 4 are equal (one should be the other converted to metric)

SWG 0 (column 7):

Column 3 states 0.82296, should be 8.2296

Johncc330 (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@Johncc330: Maybe delete the file on commons completely as a probable copyvio. See this. -Arch dude (talk) 19:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

See also User:Rafti Institute. -Arch dude (talk) 20:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Mmmm. I would rather look for a less violent solution. The file does not show any intentional malice, and is quite useful. It also combines several more wire gauge systems, which is of educational value. I'll see if I can get the definition of the other systems and generate correct version of the table. Johncc330 (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Convert template of MPH to KM per hour?

I recently created Arthur P. Yates and want to convert the 112.5 miles per hour to km per hour. Can someone put that in. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:07, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Question about importing and the abuse filter (cross post from Wikiquote, Meta)

Can using the import or importupload user rights ever trip the abuse filter? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle The list of actions that an abuse filter can check against are given at mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format#Built-in variables. From the documentation it doesn't appear that the "import" action is available to check against, presumably because it's a restricted right given only to admins/importers so it shouldn't be available for disruption. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 10:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

My edits are removed - Please help

Dear Sir, I have made some edits but they have disappeared.(Redacted) and I have added an accurate edit to the Atlanta airport Wikipedia site and after a few hours, the edits have disappeared.In the airlines and destinations chapter of the Wikipedia page, I added Delhi to Delta Airlines and delta airlines does fly to Delhi via Amsterdam and delta airlines flies both legs and I have proof below https://www.delta.com/complete-purchase/trip-summary?cacheKeySuffix=a47644e6-be5c-49c3-9921-030ec1180f8f&cartId=da56b037-d248-4859-b398-94e74b723017&app=sl-sho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartsfield%E2%80%93Jackson_Atlanta_International_Airport Please help in allowing me to update the wikipedia artice. Sincerely From, SpongBob1230 SpongBob1230 (talk) 22:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Delta does not fly to anywhere in India and booking engines are not reliable sources. They are not bookable and only operated by codeshare partners VS and KLM via AMS/LHR. Rzxz0839 (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

July 13

Add to a profile

My dad Bernard Toone has passed away and he does not have anyone listed on is Wilipedia as family. He has a Sister Kim Toone and a Brother Christopher Toone along with he two twin daughters JeNelle Watkins and JeNette Watkins. How can we get this added to his Wikipedia? 2601:5C1:8201:7010:D84F:EE1F:5AF7:D8C6 (talk) 00:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Bernard Toone --Orange Mike | Talk 00:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@2601:5C1:8201:7010:D84F:EE1F:5AF7:D8C6: Sorry to hear about your dad. For his article, we can only add information that is properly sourced with independent coverage. Since you are related to him, you have what we call a conflict of interest, and we request that you not edit the article yourself. If you can identify a reliable source with the info you'd like to have added, you can put a connected edit request on the article's talk page. See Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request. If you get stuck, please come back here. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Table

Hi, today I published my draft here. I made a table for its charts, but I'd like it to look more like the one here. Can you guys show me how to do this? I've been having difficulty implementing it without a direct copy-paste. —VersaceSpace 🌃 00:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@VersaceSpace I don't think you can do this using the visual editor - it still doesn't support adding custom CSS to tables. To get the custom shading in the first column you need to add ! scope="row" before each cell containing the chart name. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Date formatting in citations

When editing an article, sometimes when writing dates in citations as "2022-07-12" they appear as "12 July 2022" after publishing/inserting, other times it doesn't and just stays as "2022-07-12". Am I doing something wrong? Is it advisable to just write out dates instead? DannyC55 (Talk) 02:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

See: {{use dmy dates}} and/or {{use mdy dates}} and Help:Citation Style 1 § Auto-formatting citation template dates.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 02:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

edits mysteriously undone

About a month ago I made several additions to the Wikipedia stub about myself (Andrew Carstairs-McCarthy). But I find today (13 July) that these changes have all disappeared; the article has reverted to the 'stub' version. Why? Damerell (talk) 03:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Damerell: If you check the page's history, your edits were undone because they were not cited when such information must be verifiable. I would also strongly suggest you refrain from writing about yourself, as it is very difficult to write neutrally on such a subject. Please use the article's talk page to make edit requests. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)