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User:Hichem algerino

Hello, I am trying to log in to my Wikimedia account, but I am being prompted to enter a verification code that was supposedly sent to my email address. Unfortunately, I am either not receiving the email or no longer have access to that email account. Could you please assist me in one of the following ways: Resend the verification code to a different or updated email address, or Help me regain access to my account through an alternative method.

Here are the details of my account: Username: [Hichem algerino] 41.108.174.146 (talk) 16:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Hichem. If you are logged into the account from somewhere, you should be able to update the email address to one you do have access to. Unfortunately, if you are not logged on and do not have access to the email set for it, then there is no way to recover your account. You'll need to create a new one - I suggest that then you note on the User pages of both accounts that you are Hichem algerino under a new name. ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Did you get a response to this? I'm in a similar situation and locked out of my account, despite having access to what I thought was the email address on record 23.127.164.51 (talk) 18:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

My Wikipedia app's clock has jumped ahead by about 5 hours. How to fix?

I just noticed that my Wikipedia home page is showing the date as June 3, when my local time zone says June 2. I assume it's using GMT rather than Eastern Time. But I don't know how to reset the time/date, or even where to go. Any help would be appreciated. 2600:1700:846A:190:30A8:F5E1:B88D:2A91 (talk) 01:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

If you have an account...Preferences → Appearance → Time zone Moxy🍁 01:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia uses UTC which is similar to GMT. The above setting only affects logs like page histories and user contributions. Main Page displays the same date to everybody. If you have an account then I'm not sure which clock you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Photographic Murals in Peter Cooper USPS, New York NY

I am a New York based photographer. I have to photographic composite murals in the Peter Cooper post office, on permanent display. I would like to upload photographs of the murals, their titles and a brief synopsis of their subject matter. I do not know how to write computer code. How would I go about accomplishing this? Addthomp (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Pls review Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Feel free to come back here if you have more questions. Moxy🍁 02:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, Addthomp. Coding wouldn't be necessary; reading will be. You'd have to start by finding out whether the murals fall into the public domain (in the legal sense of this term). For what is and isn't in the public domain in the US, please read c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States. Start by assuming that the murals aren't in the public domain; look for incontrovertible evidence that they do (and be ready to cite this evidence). If, and only if, they are demonstrably in the public domain, then you may upload your photographs of them to Wikimedia Commons. (Each time, you'd have to attach an appropriate US public domain template.) These photographs of yours would themselves be in the public domain (see Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp.). If the murals are not in the public domain, then your options are very much more limited (see Wikipedia:Non-free content). I note that the article United States Post Office (Cooper Station) says that the building they're in "was built in 1937"; I'm assuming that the murals weren't moved in from elsewhere and thus are no older than 1937. -- Hoary (talk) 06:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I upload a photograph and title. I upload the wrong photograph with that title. Where does the image go when I upload it? I went to the Peter Cooper webpage and I don't see the photograph? Now I need to delete that submission. Addthomp (talk) 11:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You have uploaded no images to Wikipedia. You have uploaded one image to our sibling project, Wikimedia Commons, at c:File:Moses on the Hudson River. 2008.jpg.

Presumably, you did so using c:Special:UploadWizard; leastways, that's the best place to make uploads in future. It will guide you through the process.

If you tried to upload anything else, and were logged in, the upload did not complete. Please try again, using the link I provided. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

How do I translate my English page into Spanish and save it to my sandbox?

I recently completed the upgrading of an English starter article to B level. It is called the Bombardment of Greytown. Because it is a history piece set in Central America, I would like to bring my version to the attention of the Spanish editors who created the Spanish version of the original article.

I thought the best and least intrusive way to do this, would be to do a translation that would not overwrite any of their established article. So I thought I would create a sandbox for it and invite them on the talk page of their article to visit my sandbox and see if they might want to incorporate some or all of the translation into their Spanish version of the article.

What do you think?

~~~~ Will-DubDub (talk) 05:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Why translate it? How about just leaving a note on (currently blank) es:Discusión:Bombardeo de Greytown about the recent augmentation of en:Bombardment of Greytown? -- Hoary (talk) 05:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You could also inform the editor who created and wrote most of the Spanish article on their en or es talk page. TSventon (talk) 06:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Middleton family

Middleton family

Please fix - I cannot do this! Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41 and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up".

Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Please fix - I cannot do this! Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41 and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up" if you can. Thank you again115.70.23.77 (talk) 03:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Please see, read, and implement Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once. And then, in your [when logged in] user page, add a link to Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once, for future use. -- Hoary (talk) 05:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I have tried again and again

This helpful line of advice: Names must not be purely numeric; the software will accept something like ":31337" (which is punctuation plus a number), but it will ignore "31337" (purely numeric).

is what really confuses me.

I cannot do this effort - I don't have the technical skills and I am embarrassed to ask for help. Unfortunately I will let this go - someone in the future might do the "double up" of refs, but it will not be me.

Thank you again Srbernadette (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

What's within the quotation marks of "31337" consists of nothing outside the set {0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}. This isn't true of what's within the quotation marks of ":31337" (because the numerals are preceded by a colon, of course). Incidentally, I wonder about the accuracy of the advice above: Wikipedia "source" isn't (X)HTML, but it's based on it; and if I remember right, an ID in (X)HTML mustn't merely include something other than a numeral; rather, it must start with something other than a numeral. So, the needed skill: Provide one (and only one) reference like <ref name="somedistinctivename">full details of the source</ref> and one or more other references like <ref name="somedistinctivename" /> -- what particular technical skill is required? -- Hoary (talk) 07:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps that wasn't clear enough. For one source, it must be the same distinctive name. Thus for example if one has (a single instance of) <ref name="leksikon">{{Cite website| last1=Sørensen | first1=Knud | last2=Haislund | first2=Niels | date=1 August 2014 | title=Otto Jespersen | website=Dansk Biografisk Leksikon | access-date=12 May 2025 | url=https://biografiskleksikon.lex.dk/Otto_Jespersen | language=da}}</ref> then one also has one or more of <ref name="leksikon" />. HTH! -- Hoary (talk) 07:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I cannot do this - you are very patient, but I'm sorry. It is beyond me. 49.199.153.245 (talk) 10:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Babe Paley article

Under the subheading Babe Paley#Style, there appears to be a coding problem with the thumbnail for image File:KN-C19647. First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy's Tea for the Special Committee for White House Paintings.jpg. The thumbnail is displaying a "broken" icon. (I've tried several different web browsers). Muzilon (talk) 10:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@Muzilon: It works for me. Is it still broken for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the thumbnail won't display on my MacBook, nor in the Wikipedia app on my (Android) cellphone. No issue with the other images in the Babe Paley bio, just that group photo. Muzilon (talk) 11:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Addenda: OK, this is weird - I just tried Tor and a proxy, and the thumbnail did display properly. I've replicated the problem by adding the thumbnail to my Sandbox. It would seem this may be a problem with my ISP, although I don't know why it would just affect this particular image. On further experimentation, I note that two of the extracted images listed on the source image's Commons page are broken for me too. Muzilon (talk) 11:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@Muzilon: Some ISP's use caching. They may have tried to cache it at a time where it was broken or they couldn't connect to it, but ISP caching may not be possible when Wikimedia uses https. It's also possible you reach another Wikimedia server via Tor. I'm in Denmark, Europe. One of the extracts is broken for me: File:Jacqueline Kennedy and James W. Fosburgh (cropped).jpg works on the file page but the extract tries to load the 250px version /media/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Jacqueline_Kennedy_and_James_W._Fosburgh_(cropped).jpg/250px-Jacqueline_Kennedy_and_James_W._Fosburgh_(cropped).jpg which says "Error Too Many Requests". PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I can reproduce that issue too. I get a Wikimedia error message "Our servers are currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical issue". For the record, I'm in New Zealand. Muzilon (talk) 23:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

locked out!

Hello! I'm hoping for some help with my account. Login user ID is "essness" when I try to reset, no email is sent to reset. I do have a prior email from Wikipedia at that address, which seems to confirm that it's the one on file. Is there anyway to get help with this? 23.127.164.51 (talk) 18:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi there,

Sorry to hear you're having trouble signing in!

It seems that there's no account with the username Essness.

Could you double-check the spelling?

Alternatively, you mention an email from Wikipedia - this may contain one or more link(s) that would help to verify your account name. ···sardonism · t · c 18:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

If you tried to get a password recovery email and it didn't work, there is no other way to regain access to your account. You may create a new one and identify it as a successor to your old account. 331dot (talk) 18:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Remember that (as far as I know) Account names are case sensitive: is it possible that you capitalised one or more letters of "essness"? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.228.242 (talk) 18:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Account names are case sensitive except for the intial character which is automatically capitalized if it's a letter. Could it be User:Esness? The account was created in 2016 and only has one edit to Maneesh which was later deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

What about User:EssNess? Fabrickator (talk) 21:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

How do you disambiguate a page which currently exists as a redirect to another article?

Links: Gold Rush (TV series), Jesse D. Goins, Jesse Goins (redirect)

Hi. After watching a show on the internet, I went to look for information about a person called Jesse Goins, who was part of a TV series called Gold Rush: Dave Turin's Lost Mine. Upon going to the page with his name, I was redirected to a page about an actor called Jesse D. Goins, who is not the same person.

I was thinking of changing the redirect into a disambiguation, and including Jesse Goins, directing users to the page about that show. Since I don't want to screw the redirect up, can someone please advise me on how to change a redirect into a disambiguation page please? A search reveals that the show (Gold Rush) does have its own article, and Jesse Goins is mentioned in the subsection relating to the version I mentioned.

Thanks for your advice and help. Dane|Geld 18:51, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey there,

If you get redirected, you should see "(Redirected from Jesse Goins)" underneath the page title in the top-left corner of the article.

Clicking on the name will take you to the redirect page without you being redirected again. From there, you should be able to click to edit the page as normal.

You'll want to completely remove what's there, and then use the Human name disambiguation template. ···sardonism · t · c 19:10, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I am not convinced that a disambiguation page is needed, per Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic with only one other topic, you could add a hatnote to Jesse D. Goins. TSventon (talk) 19:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Looking at the Gold Rush article it appears the Jesse Goins in question here was only present for that single specific spin-off series (and possibly only mentioned because of his death), making me question the utility of adding a hatnote for someone that not many people are going to be trying to find on Wikipedia. Amstrad00 (talk) 19:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Topics

Can you list any topics I can write an article on that would have enough information on published, or reliable sources? I created 2 articles but both weren't approved mainly because the information came from non-approved sources. Anyways, I couldn't really find approved info because there wasn't enough information on the subject. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Requested articles? Muzilon (talk) 00:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

I suggest that you don't bother with Wikipedia:Requested articles, Rafaelthegreat. From the point of view of an encyclopedia, a high percentage of its content is -- why mince words? -- junk.

John Chillingworth has just died; here's an obituary. Search engines offer more.

"But I'm not interested in this John chill-whatever fellow!"

Didn't think you would be. Whatever the subject, the great majority of people wouldn't be sufficiently interested in it to want to go through the laborious process of searching for info, reading it, digesting it, summarizing it, identifying what comes from where, copyediting their work, adding links, etc. So what are you interested in? Go to the talk page of a relevant "WikiProject", and offer your services. -- Hoary (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh I never knew that. Thanks! Rafaelthegreat (talk) 02:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

One note of caution is that many wikiprojects are inactive or hardly active (check their talk pages) and their members may or may not have ideas for new articles that could be written.

I see one of your drafts was a female biography: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red is an active project. TSventon (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

The Imitation Game

The Imitation Game

Ref. number 117 is in red. Please fix if you can. Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 03:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, that is a problem within what is very likely the longest footnote I have ever encountered anywhere in Wikipedia. I have a soft spot for lengthy footnotes, but this really is monstrous. More problematic is that it appears to quote, at enormous length, something published very recently. If this is, as I suppose, conventionally copyright ("All rights reserved"), then I suspect that the bulk of the quotation exceeds what copyright law normally permits. (However, I'm not particularly knowledgable about copyright law, and am open to being corrected.) Meanwhile, the technical glitch is trivial. What is now Washington, DC | October 9–11, 2025 Intelligence should instead be Washington, DC {{!}} October 9–11, 2025 Intelligence. -- Hoary (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

'Dead' sources

What should I do with sources that have broken SWFs (that are the main source of info)? What should I mark the source as? There's some sources on a page I'm editing that Ruffle is unable to load the SWF for at all with a CORS policy, and another source that just says the SWF is invalid. Should I remove the source, should I mark it as dead (some are already marked as usurped and use the Wayback Machine) KamiraMV (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Also, how do I update a source to use the Wayback Machine instead of the normal url (a few sources just redirect to a homepage) KamiraMV (talk) 02:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

The simplest method is with this tool: https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php?page=runbotsingle -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Check medical digital inteligence

Mdi 105.245.120.35 (talk) 06:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Precisely what help are you asking for? (Though if it's for a particular article, better ask on that article's talk page.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, we have no article called "medical digital intelligence" (with either spelling). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Painting instead of image as the lead image on a BLP?

Just came across the page The Feminist Five, where the lead image is a drawing of the five people involved instead of an image. The articles on each individual person (eg Wei Tingting) also uses the same drawing, just cropped. As far as I can tell, the painting is released under a free license, and I didn’t see anything at WP:BLP that says you can’t use a painting, but something feels off about it. Just wanted to confirm that this is okay, or would it be better if it were removed? 45500LighthouseRoad (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think there is a policy against using the image. WP:BLPIMAGE says that AI images may not be used, but author of the image of The Feminist Five seems to be a professional artist who donates content to Wikimedia Commons and the image does not say that AI was used. TSventon (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

No, but I think the community has been generally opposed to using WP:USERG pics of living people, AI or not. I know I've seen long discussions on it. @SMcCandlish, were you in those? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images/Archive_11#WP:USERG_portraits is one discussion, but I've seen longer ones. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

It is an image. It was produced by an artist, not a camera. There's nothing "off" about that; see Napoleon and many other articles. Maproom (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Napoleon is not alive and there is no possible way to get a photo of him. Note the scope of the question is clearly "BLP", and that means it's reasonable that someone could get a photo of the subject (just like we reject fair-use of them), not "people". DMacks (talk) 21:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks all for the responses, seems like there isn’t a specific policy discussing paintings in BLPs. From WP:IUPC, “the subject to be illustrated should be clearly identifiable in context, and should not be overly stylized” (thanks @Gråbergs Gråa Sång). In this case, I’d say that the paintings are “overly stylized” and not “clearly identifiable”, and I think there’s a basis for removing them. Will boldly do in a few hours unless anybody has anything else I should consider. 45500LighthouseRoad (talk) 00:07, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Contrary to DMacks' position that, as they are living, the subjects' photographs could be taken and donated – while that may be theoretically true, the specific geographical and legal circumstances of these five subjects would, I suggest, make it extremely difficult if not hazardous for someone to take and distribute photographs of any of them, let alone all five. Given this, surely it's better to have the existing artwork than nothing at all? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.228.242 (talk) 04:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Assuming this is not AI, it's the artistic vision of a netizen, with a siginificant WP:OR element. Compare this pic to the one at Wei Tingting. Are we gaining anything from the WP-POV by including it? IMO, no. It's decorative fan-art. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Li Tingting's photos in the refs on her article look noticeably different from the artistic drawing as well. I agree that there are people that are alive that would be impossible(ish) to photograph. But I disagree that "it's better to have the existing artwork than nothing at all" if that artwork is at all a concern itself. Articles aren't required to have photographs, and nothing about these individuals' notability or other encyclopediac content relates to their appearance, so the image does not strongly help the reader. DMacks (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't recall where specific prior discussions were, Gråbergs Gråa Sång. My recollection of the general sentiment is that paintings, drawings, and other non-photographic depictions have been seen as inappropriate, except for pre-photography subjects, because they are (to put it in succinct terms) a form of fiction.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:25, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

This Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard/Archive_49#Cartoon_portraits was the one I was remembering. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Edited Article Was Saved, but isn't Appearing on Contributions nor "View History" Tab

Good day! I spend my whole evening editing the article on "Compound Interest". I added loads of citations and even added in useful formulas for calculating EAR (effective annual rate both generic and an actual example) with citations to support it. I definitely saved it, but it isn't appearing in my contribution list nor is it appearing in Wikipedia's "view history tab." Is this because my amendments are currently being reviewed? More clarification will be much appreciated so that this doesn't happen again as it will be a waste of my time and efforts. The page link to this article is Compound interest. I really appreciate your feedback regarding this issue I have faced. Many thanks and kind regards M.R. Maz009 (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Maz009. If you spent a long time on a single edit, then it's possible that the session grew "stale", and it didn't save - though I think you'd have got an error message. Are you sure that didn't happen?

I'm afraid that if it didn't save, then your edit is gone - unless perhaps it is saved in your browser: perhaps a "back" will find it? ColinFine (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@Maz009: Special:EditRecovery also works in some situations if the feature is already enabled. You aren't autoconfirmed yet so when you add external links there is a captcha step after clicking publish. Other things like filter hits can also cause extra steps. New users sometimes misunderstand something and think their edit is already saved. The software does work and it doesn't happen to experienced users so I hope you stick around. If a save goes through then the url should change to start with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/, not en.wikipedia.org/w/. Before leaving an edit you can also check your contributions or the page history in another tab. Some users copy a large edit to their clipboard (Ctrl+a followed by Ctrl+c for Windows browsers) before saving a large edit in case something goes wrong. If you want to be extra careful then also insert the text somewhere else like Notepad with Ctrl+v. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

The Article make miss stake

This article is make miss stake the location that's make both country got the dispute about temple , But the real the location is in Cambodia country

th:ปราสาทตาเมือนธม

Verify Address :

https://www.google.com/maps?ll=14.349167,103.266389&q=14.349167,103.266389&hl=en&t=m&z=15 ApichaDev (talk) 04:33, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@ApichaDev: The article you're linking is in the Thai Wikipedia, which is a different project from the English Wikipedia. You will want to either discuss this on that article's talk page or whichever page at thWiki is the equivalent to this one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:24, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

So , Open the discuss must be thai Wikipedia page ? ApichaDev (talk) 06:07, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@ApichaDev: Correct.

[automated translation] @ApichaDev: ถูกต้องแล้วครับ. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 06:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

You can start a discussion at th:พูดคุย:ปราสาทตาเมือนธม or th:วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I now see that there is an English version of the article, at Prasat Ta Muen Thom. It makes clear that the site is the subject of a border dispute. Google Maps is not a reliable source for resolving such issues. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page for a Society/Association

Hello, I have written a wiki page for a Professional Society, how do I get it published? Or reviewed? Cninenine (talk) 07:22, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

You need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the box at the top of the draft to formally submit it.

If you are affiliated with this society, that must be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 07:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The draft was blatant promotion and has been deleted. Wikipedia is not a place just to tell about something. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I have codeveloped a Wikipedia entry in Spanish. Now I want to add an English version of the content.

I have codeveloped a Wikipedia entry in Spanish with another University professor.

Now I want to add an English version of the content. I am a University professor fluent in English. How can I add the English content?

Thank you very much. WillymatesII (talk) 10:55, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

WillymatesII, you have to attend to the reviewer comments that head Draft:I3E Economic Uncertainty Index. But before you even do that, here, in this discussion thread, please point us to three sources that (i) are independent of the I3E Economic Uncertainty Index, its authors, and the IESE Business School and (ii) are reliable and (iii) go into depth about the I3E Economic Uncertainty Index. -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you.

Please note that the I3E was developed by my co-author and me and that the more rigorous academic papers exploring the index to date have been written by us.

I don't know if I am supposed to copy the references directly here. Some additional independent sources discussing the I3E:

María Gil, Javier J. Pérez y Alberto Urtasun, Artículos analíticos (2 de febrero de 2017). «Incertidumbre macroeconómica: medición e impacto sobre la economía española». Banco de España. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

«El índice de incertidumbre económica, en el nivel más alto desde noviembre». Castilla y León Económica. 12 de julio de 2011. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

Agencia Europa Press (17 de enero de 2014). «La incertidumbre económica cerró 2013 en mínimos históricos, al caer 7 puntos en diciembre». El Día (Santa Cruz de Tenerife). Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

«La incertidumbre económica en España baja tras los resultados de las elecciones en Cataluña». Antena 3 Noticias. 14 de enero de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

«La incertidumbre económica sube en noviembre, según el IESE». Expansión. 5 de diciembre de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

«La incertidumbre económica sigue a la baja en España a pesar de los síntomas de desaceleración y el 28A». El Economista. 10 de marzo de 2019. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

«La cepa Ómicron eleva la incertidumbre económica en España - RRHH Press - Noticias de Recursos Humanos y empleo». 2 de diciembre de 2021. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

«El Índice de Incertidumbre Económica del IESE sube en noviembre por la aparición de la nueva cepa del Covid». www.europapress.es. 2 de diciembre de 2021. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

Agencia Europa Press (5 de abril de 2022). «La incertidumbre económica aumenta en marzo marcada por la guerra y la inflación, según el Índice del IESE». www.europapress.es. Consultado el 12 de abril de 2022. WillymatesII (talk) 15:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @WillymatesII. If there are few or no published sources about I3E that were written and published independently of I3E and its associates, then it is unlikely that it will meet the notability requirements of English Wikipedia. (This may be different in Spanish Wikipedia, I don't know).

English Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 16:43, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I regret that I failed either to make it clear either that I wasn't asking for additional sources (the sources could be either among those already cited, or additional), or that for this purpose there should be no more than three. Anyway, here are the first three that you list, WillymatesII:

• María Gil, Javier J. Pérez y Alberto Urtasun, Artículos analíticos (2 de febrero de 2017). «Incertidumbre macroeconómica: medición e impacto sobre la economía española». Banco de España. I find this here. The string "Índice IESE de Incertidumbre Económica" appears nowhere within it. The string "I3E" appears once, within "Estos cuatro índices son los componentes del indicador de incertidumbre económica I3E elaborado por el IESE."
• «El índice de incertidumbre económica, en el nivel más alto desde noviembre». Castilla y León Económica. 12 de julio de 2011. I find this here. It tells us: "El Índice IESE de Incertidumbre Económica es un indicador que elabora el International Center for Decision Making del IESE para reflejar de un modo sintético la incertidumbre existente sobre la coyuntura económica." That's all that it tells us.
• Agencia Europa Press (17 de enero de 2014). «La incertidumbre económica cerró 2013 en mínimos históricos, al caer 7 puntos en diciembre». El Día (Santa Cruz de Tenerife). I find this here (on the Europa Press website rather than the website of El Día). It cites a press release from IESE, and (whether or not via the press release) a co-creator of the index -- and there's no indication that it's also based on anything else. It describes I3E in one sentence, presumably deriving from the press release.

None of these three covers I3E in any depth, and it's also clear that the third isn't independent. Thus they fail to show that I3E is "notable" as the term is used by and for en:Wikipedia. (NB such "notability" is not notability as the word is commonly understood, and it certainly isn't correlated with quality.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Some additional information to demonstrate the notability of the I3E Index:

The Bank of Spain is the most relevant economic institution in Spain and one of the most important in Europe. The fact that an independent institution like the Bank of Spain uses the I3E in their economic reports gives a strong indication of notability.

"Expansión" is the leading (and of course, fully independent) economic newspaper in Spain:

«La incertidumbre económica sube en noviembre, según el IESE». Expansión. 5 de diciembre de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022. https://www.expansion.com/economia/2018/12/05/5c080a4522601d7b318b4689.html

El Economista is another prestigious and fully independent economic newspaper:

«La incertidumbre económica sigue a la baja en España a pesar de los síntomas de desaceleración y el 28A». El Economista. 10 de marzo de 2019. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022. https://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/9750783/03/19/La-incertidumbre-economica-en-Espana-baja-en-febrero-y-sigue-muy-estable-segun-el-IESE.html

And so forth. The I3E has had and continues to have a significant impact on national economic newspapers and journals. And now that it is being released internationally in another 22 countries, the number of impacts in economic press and journals will only increase. The I3E is the only economic uncertainty index that is being published daily for 22 countries and it is now publicly available worldwide. This international expansion of the index to new countries worldwide is why we believe that the I3E should be included also in the English Wikipedia.

The more technical (in-depth) research papers are, for the time being, provided by the authors: (https://wdecisions.github.io/i3e/I3E.pdf, https://wdecisions.github.io/i3e/I3E_and_alternatives.pdf). However, more papers will be published now that the I3E has been made publicly available to the academic community. 62.22.128.114 WillymatesII. (talk) 15:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Disambiguation

I found "__DISAMBIG__". in a disambiguation page, and I don't understand if it is different from {{Disambiguation}} Should a disambig page have just one of these, both, either? Ike9898 (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Ike9898, I am not familiar with "__DISAMBIG__", where did you find it? TSventon (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Ike9898. __DISAMBIG__ is a Magic word, which marks a page as a disambiguation page for the software.

{{Disambiguation}} is a template which does much more than this, and has a number of arguments that you can read about in its documentation. (I am guessing that somewhere deep in its guts it adds the magic word, but I haven't found where, so I may be wrong). ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

This is the trace:

{{Disambiguation}} → {{Dmbox}} → __DISAMBIG__

I checked and found no mainspace pages that use it directly. DMacks (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The one that I found I removed and replaced (before you checked). I wonder if I found the single instance of that use by chance? Ike9898 (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

You win! DMacks (talk) 17:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

See Help:Magic words§Behavior switches! Whatback11 (talk) 16:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Why are a lot of IPs posting stuff from "On This Day" on other pages?

One example I saw, and another one. I've seen numerous IPs pasting stuff like this onto other pages today and yesterday. They get reverted, but I'm curious why they're doing this. Weeklyd3 (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Appears to be some random abusive editor, no idea if it's one of our long-term problems or a new-comer, but it doesn't really matter. They're using proxies, so it involves several IPs that change over time, as they each get long-term blocked in turn. DMacks (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Department directory

What does Wikipedia:Department directory do? Whatback11 (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

It's a broad directory of links that editors can use to help them collaborate in building and maintaining the encyclopedia. Perception312 (talk) 19:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Cant list information on a product that our company founded

hello- we subitted articles and details for a product we invented and were told we were trying to sell. We are not and have no one to talk to in order to understand how or why we can make this better. Very frustrating. Help? 71.205.174.156 (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi there,

Thanks for being interested in contributing to Wikipedia.

Typically, we discourage companies from directly contributing to articles regarding themselves or their products. Please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more information. ···sardonism · t · c 17:16, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

Wikipedia is basically not interested in what you want to say about your own company or product: it is only interested in what people unconnected with you have published about it.

If there has not yet been much independent writing about the product, then it is not (so far) notable in Wikipedia's special sense of the word. ColinFine (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Possible to use Visual Editor to delete columns from List of active Russian military aircraft?

Usually I can delete columns from a table no problem using Visual Editor, but there is something different about the tables in this article so I cannot do it (see also talk page of article).

By the way if I take a screenshot of the problem can I attach or link it here somehow? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

That article seems to be using Template:Avilisthead for its tables rather than the standard table format. The columns are established by that template so you can't remove them individually on the article page, but they are somewhat configurable per the instructions on the template page. That being said, if you actually just want to edit the contents of the rows, in the Visual Editor you should be able to click the table and then select the Edit button to further edit the table's contents. Amstrad00 (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: If you temporarily replace {{Avilisthead}} with {| in the source editor and switch to VisualEditor then it can delete columns. You can then see if there is a way to make {{Avilisthead}} only produce the column headers you want. Otherwise you have to make wikitext for the headers. Special:ExpandTemplates can show the wikitext produced by a template call. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Bangor Cathedral Wales

There has been a lot of scandals happening at Bangor Cathedral in Wales and with the poor leadership of the archbishop of Wales. The facts and sources have been published in the news as of late, is it not important to update this information onto Bangor Cathedral’s Wikipedia page? 2A00:23C7:7C41:4701:708F:632A:1BD5:174 (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

If you are confident that the information is important for that article, feel free to be bold and add the information (possibly to the History section) using a neutral wording and citing reliable news sources, or suggest changes on the article's talk page. Perception312 (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The article Bangor Cathedral is about a building, and is not a suitable place for an account of the actions of its archbishop. Maproom (talk) 06:54, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Andy John might be an appropriate place. Maproom (talk) 07:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Deleted article

Someone deleted the page "Denmark national under-19 football team". How can we create it again? 85.218.220.137 (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

You can gather independent reliable sources to summarize and demonstrate that the team is a notable organization; that doesn't seem likely which is why the article was turned into a redirect. 331dot (talk) 19:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

All European countries has a specific article for their under-19 national football team, but someone deleted the article of the Denmark team.

You can see the articles here:

Category:European national under-19 association football teams

Please redirect this article for the "Denmark national under-19 team" again. 85.218.220.137 (talk) 19:48, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I have looked at three or four articles in the category you mention, and none of them is adequately sourced. (I have tagged them accordingly). I suspect that none of the teams meets Wikipedia's criteria for Notability, but I'm not interested enough to spend the time checking.

The article you are talking about was deleted, because somebody cared enough to look at it and decided that it was not adequately sourced, and that adequate sources do not exist. We have thousands and thousands of articles which are inadequate, and should be improved or deleted; but it is rare that somebody takes the time and effort to do so. But we do not evaluate articles against other articles: we evaluate them against our standards (which are more carefully applied than in the past): see other stuff exists.

If you want to look at some of those other articles and carry out the WP:BEFORE diligence, and either improve their sourcing or nominated them for deletion, that would improve Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 20:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I have restored the article.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Elton John

Elton John has sold over 300 million albums and over 100 million singles. Wikipedia needs to change the 300 million records sold to over 400 million sold. Beadsley2414 (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Beadsley2414, if you can present a reliable source for updated information for the article Elton John, then edit the article accordingly. If you are unable or unwilling to edit the article, then make a suggestion at the foot of Talk:Elton John. -- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

If you want to say that "He has sold over 400 million records worldwide" instead of "300 millions".

A "secondary source" is needed for the article "Elton John".

I'm referring to the version of the article from "JUNE/02/2025" at "16:05 UTC".

You can "be bold" if you had a "reliable source". Anatole-berthe (talk) 23:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Reciprocal Hatnotes

There are two peer articles with similar content and titles: Horror fiction and Horror movies. Only the fiction article has a hatnote, unfortunately. I added a hatnote for the movies article, but an editor undid this change. He commented on the talk page that only the fiction article needs a hatnote, but this one-directional guidance seems likely to confuse some readers. There are no other comments about this topic on the talk page yet. What is a good way to handle this situation? Pac Veten (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Pac Veten. The way to resolve this, as with all disagreements between editors, is to discuss it openly with the other editor and any other editors, and try to reach consensus. If you are unable to reach consensus, then WP:dispute resolution tells you how to proceed.

Personally, I don't see why either has a hatnote pointing to the other. I think a "See also" entry further down would be quite adequate. ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @ColinFine. As mentioned above, that editor and I pursued a thread on the article's talk page, but no other users joined the discussion. I'll consider the possibility of dispute resolution, thanks.

On a high level, this hatnote problem seems to stem from the lack of a "parent" article about horror media. Related articles (e.g., science fiction, fantasy) use a more general approach effectively, incorporating multiple media into a single article. Hopefully a SME can contribute this for horror media at some point. Pac Veten (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

hacked

This email and number are hacked please cancel the meta accounts. 185.6.149.222 (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

If you'd like something done at Wikimedia Meta, ask there. If you want something done at what used to be Facebook, ask that company. Whichever it is, if you want something done about an email address or some number, better specify what it is. -- Hoary (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Merging two pages

Hello, I am trying to merge or link these two pages without success:

1. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallisch

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallisch

They refer to the same topic, but the other language versions do not appear on the English version.

Merge two items page says: "Failed to merge Items, please resolve any conflicts first. Error: Conflicting descriptions for language an."

What am I doing wrong? Koko the tabby cat (talk) 12:54, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I believe it is because one is a German Wikipedia article and one is an English Wikipedia article - the two are separate projects and as such you aren't able to merge them. I might be wrong though. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:57, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@Koko the tabby cat this was a problem on Wikidata. I've merged the two items. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:15, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@CanonNi: you have merged items for a surname page and a disambiguation page, was that correct? The merged item is showing multiple error messages. A similar result could be achieved by linking Wallisch (disambiguation) (which I have just created) to d:Q2543002. TSventon (talk) 13:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@CanonNi: I have queried this at d:Help talk:Merge#Q2543002 and Q37056283. TSventon (talk) 14:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. On the German Wikipedia page for Wallisch, now we can switch the language to English.

I actually tried to merge the two surname pages, but it didn't work for me. I didn't know there was a disambiguation page as well but I had nothing to do with it. Koko the tabby cat (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Koko the tabby cat I have unmerged the items following advice at Wikidata and created and linked Wallisch (disambiguation). I think I now have to create and link redirects in the other four languages. TSventon (talk) 21:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Everything seems to have worked (famous last words). TSventon (talk) 21:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

How can I introduce me on wikipedia

Subject: Inclusion Request – Dr. Sajid Hussain, English Poet from Pakistan

Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope this message finds you well. I am Dr. Sajid Hussain, an English poet from Pakistan, whose work focuses on themes of humanity, nature ,peace, environment, and philosophical reflection. I kindly request that my profile be considered for inclusion in the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. My contributions to English literature and poetry are documented and can be found through a simple online search under the name:

Dr. Sajid Hussain English Poet from Pakistan

These sources reflect my literary journey, publications, and professional background.

It would be a great honor to be included among the voices that continue to shape and elevate global literature through Wikipedia's esteemed platform. With kind regards and deep appreciation,

Dr. Sajid Hussain

English Poet from Pakistan

2404:3100:104F:B291:1:0:4362:456B (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

IP editor. Unfortunately, your name is the same as a now-deceased journalist from Pakistan. That will make it very difficult for anyone to find sources specifically about you. While we strongly advise against autobiography for the reasons mentioned at that link, it is not prohibited for you to try to draft one provided you use the articles for creation process. Beware that on the English Wikipedia your draft will be expected to show how you are notable in the quirky way we define that word. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Antonio Amaya (boxer) - Synthesis or allowed?

Antonio Amaya (boxer)

For context, see User_talk:Jeraxmoira#Antonio_Amaya. Is it okay to write whatever the author wants in a biography article, solely by citing a boxing records database that only contains scores and no additional context? Wouldn't this fall under WP:SYNTH? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Please resolve your dispute with the other editor by following the process outlined at WP:DR. This page is for generic editing support, not dispute resolution. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:20, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

As you can see, there is no dispute at this point as it occurred a few months ago. I just want to know whether synthesizing from database records is allowed. If this is considered synthesizing, I might start an ANI thread when I have the time. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

If you're thinking of starting an ANI thread, then the dispute is continuing; use WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Can't find error

While submitting an edit on Wikipedia (Economy of India), I received the following message: Script warning: One or more {{cite book}} templates have errors; messages may be hidden. I’m unable to identify the error, as I don’t believe I made it. I’ve tried reviewing the edit history, but it’s been quite difficult, especially since I’m editing after a long time, and I couldn’t locate the issue. Could you please help me resolve this? You can either point me to the error or correct it directly. Dinesh | Talk 14:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

This reference (permalink) (also duplicated in §Further reading (permalink) – the duplicate should be removed). The publication date stated is 1946; ISBNs came into being in the mid 1960s so there is a discrepancy there that needs to be resolved. The script warning that you quote has a help link. Follow that link for instructions that will tell you how to see hidden cs1|2 error messages.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Help request about dark mode and SVG files

Hi all! I noticed a difference between Turkish and English Wikipedia, which is that some SVG files looks different when dark mode is enabled. In english Wikipedia, we can see that some basic SVGs looks compatible with dark mode. However, it is not compatible on Turkish Wikipedia. For example, File:Square (geometry).svg at the documentation pages of tr:Şablon:Çokgen bilgi kutusu and Template:Infobox polygon. Is there anyone knowing the reason for this, and am I able to fix the problem by editing the template on Turkish Wikipedia? Karacehennem (talk) 15:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

You may do better to ask on WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@Karacehennem A lot of our .svg files have the same issue in dark mode and one work-around has been to include the parameter |ImageClass=skin-invert-image within infobox templates. Whether this can be done on Turkish infoboxes, I don't know. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

how to restore a draft page that was deleted

hello I haven't logged in for months. I noticed the draft that was here has been deleted by another user. Why did this happen? Is there a way to retrieve and download it so it can be updated and saved in case this happens again? is this common, why would someone do this? Thanks Wordsthatsay (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Maybe this helps Karacehennem (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@Wordsthatsay You don't specify the title of the draft, so it is hard to be sure what happened. Drafts which are not edited for 6 months are automatically deleted by a bot. However, they can be restored by following the instructions at WP:REFUND. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

See your previous archived request here. TSventon (talk) 15:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

How to map document sources accessed via Ancestry.com to CS1 fields

This might be a bit complicated for the Helpdesk, but I already asked at Help talk:Citation Style 1 and didn't get a response, so trying my luck here:

When citing primary source documents accessed via Ancestry.com, can someone offer guidance on how to populate the citation template fields? For example, the Certificate of Registration of American Citizen (WP:TWL link) for James W McKean, numbered 10160 in the original paper document, has the following source information provided in the "Source" tab on Ancestry.com:

Ancestry.com. U.S., Consular Registration Certificates, 1907-1918 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

Original data:

Consular Registration Certificates, compiled 1907–1918. NAID: 1244186. General Records of the Department of State, 1763–2002, Record Group 59. The National Archives in Washington, D.C.

What citation template is best suited for such documents, and how should the information be mapped to the author, title, work, publisher, etc. fields? --Paul_012 (talk) 16:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

You may use {{Cite document}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:23, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. The question remains, though, which bits of information should be entered as the author, title, work, publisher, etc. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:55, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Editing an image on infobox

Hi I would like to update the photo on an infobox as the one wiki currently uses is out of date. I have worked out how to do this, but when i edit the map disappears.

Please advise how i make the map correctly show up in the infobox.

The page is: Finsbury Circus

User07963 (talk) 16:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

User07963 you haven't saved your edit, so it is difficult to say what the problem is. Incidentally the current photo looks good, I am not sure it needs to be replaced. TSventon (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@User07963: I guess you used VisualEditor. The map is displayed with a special method which doesn't always render during editing with VisualEditor. It will probably be there if you save. If you want to be sure in advance then you can switch to the source editor on a pencil icon at the top right and click "Show preview" before saving. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

disambiguation warning/help in the editor

The editor used to warn me as I typed a dab link, and it doesn't do that anymore. For example, I type [[CBC]] and within a few seconds it would offer to help me disambiguate it. Is this a feature that's now disabled, or did I turn it off somehow? —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: It works for me. Does it work in safemode? Does it work if you log out? What is your browser or device? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: I use Windows 11 and I usually use Firefox. I clicked your safe mode link and typed

[ [Mercury]] could be a planet, a mythological figure, or an element.

(without the space in [ [) and waited a few minutes and nothing happened. Then I went to Microsoft Edge, where I wasn't logged in, logged in, and edited my sandbox, and it didn't act on dab links. Then I logged out on Microsoft Edge, and the editor dab detector worked normally. So I logged back in again and the editor dab detector stopped working. I tried changing from Monobook to Vector (2022) and that didn't turn the editor dab detector back on. Also, in Firefox, the editor dab detector works only when I'm not logged in. So it's something about my settings and it doesn't depend on which browser I'm using. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: If it fails in safemode then it's not a gadget or user script which causes the failure. Are you using the same editor when you are logged out and logged in? If you cannot immediately see large differences then it's probably the same editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: The editor dab detector works normally when I am logged out, or when I am logged in and editing in French, German, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, or Vietnamese Wikipedia (these are the only ones I tried). The editor dab detector does not work in English Wikipedia when I am logged in, regardless of Edge or Firefox, regardless of normal or safe mode. If I am logged in, start to edit an article, and log out, a dialog box pops up with "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave — information you've entered may not be saved". If I stay on the page, the editor dab detector continues not to work. Conversely, if I am editing and not logged in, and I try to log in, if I answer the same dialog box question "stay on page", that aborts the login. But if I log in using a different browser tab, the editor tab does not "know" that I am logged in and the editor dab detector continues to work. But if I "Show preview", the page changes to logged in status and the editor dab detector stops working.

The most recent significant change I made to my preferences was adding a line to User:Anomalocaris/common.js, viz importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js]] , and as you would expect, removing this line did not fix the problem. It would be good find out what is going on, because this might be affecting a probably small set of other users. —Anomalocaris (talk) 05:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: User scripts don't run in safemode so if it fails there then there is no need to test your js and css pages. Are you using the same editor when you are logged out and logged in? Here "editor" means the editing interface, for example source editor or VisualEditor, syntax highlighting, and menus above and below the edit box. You don't have to compare everything but does it look similar? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Input birth date, get years

Is there any auto-updating template that takes a person's birth date and reports the age in years only? Wikipedia:Age calculation templates has plenty of templates, but they're a mix of age in other ways (e.g. age in days), age as of a certain date (so not auto-updating), age without a specific date, and {{Birth date and age}}, which reports the birth date along with the age. I want to tweak Wikipedia:About, which says For over 24 years, editors have volunteered... and must be updated annually to avoid under-reporting the number of years. Ideally, {{age}} would serve this rôle, but it doesn't appear to support a specific birth date, and I don't want to say For over 23-24 years, editors have volunteered... Nyttend (talk) 20:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Age in years|2001-01-15}} → 24?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

The documentation for {{Age in years}} didn't say that full dates can be given. I have updated it.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

What's the right place to discuss matters like this?

At Dickey's Barbecue Pit, three different accounts have been removing the same thing a few times, with similar edit summaries. The oldest of the three has been blocked. This looks pretty suspicious, but I haven't had experience with this before, so where do we discuss stuff like this? Weeklyd3 (talk) 23:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. TSventon (talk) 00:23, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Blocked the two newer ones and tagged for puppetry. DMacks (talk) 03:55, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Weeklyd3, Dickey's Barbecue Pit has been subjected to three days of attempted whitewashing by sockpuppets after the New York Times published an investigative article critical of the chain's franchising practices. I have semi-protected our article for one week. Cullen328 (talk) 07:18, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the investigation and action. DMacks (talk) 14:13, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Pythagorean Prime Numbers

I tried to add more numbers to the list of Pythagorean Primes in the sequence A002144 of OEIS that ends with the number 617, but the edit option does not work. I would like to add more of these primes to the list. Morwizzy1 (talk) 05:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

There is really no need for more, the one’s given are sufficient. Where would you stop? Maungapohatu (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

The sentence specifically says "The first few Pythagorean primes are...". Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:03, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Rollback of the vandalised edit of the protected article

User Thepharoah17 is engaged in vandalism. He removed Israel from among the opponents of IS. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Omar_Hadid_Brigade&diff=prev&oldid=967354571 I can't roll back the edit because the article is protected. 2A00:20:C013:A720:F5EE:BD30:5230:AD9B (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

You are linking to an edit that happened 5 years ago. Polygnotus (talk) 07:49, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

And the edit was entirely correct anyway, since we aren't going to cite the far-right anti-Islamist Gatestone Institute for anything. They have a long history of making false claims. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Aside from the points others have made, the correct place to discuss this issue would be the talk page of the article concerned. As the page is protected, you can request changes there which an admin will make for you if there is consensus, or if they are uncontroversial; see WP:PROTECTEDEDIT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Photo?

Hi - I blanked and redirected Montmorency to Montmorency series, but in doing so I can no longer find the image of the book cover (Montmorency) that was on the page. I can't see it in Wikimedia commons. I'm not sure where else to look to find it. Can someone help. Thanks. Blackballnz (talk) 08:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Covers of books published within anything up to 95 years ago (it's very complicated) are most likely still in copyright and must not be uploaded to Commons.

Under the non-free rationale, they can be uploaded directly to enwiki and used once to illustrate the article about that specific book only.

If you blanked the book's article, you likely deleted the only copy of the image that enwiki was using, but it can be accessed via in the page's History, and is here.

Whether or not it's permissible to use this (copyrighted) image to illustrate an article about the series is problematic: I am inclined to think not. A photo of a boxed set of the series, if one existed, might be more acceptable, but I can't find evidence of one.

You might get away with a montage of all 5 covers (as here, but note these are not the original 1st editions' covers); others, however, might think this would be overkill.

You might want to browse, and ask advice at, Commons:Village pump/Copyright.

Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.81.243 (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Note that Commons:Village pump/Copyright will not advise on free-use issues, as these are out-of-scope at Commons and local to en.Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Andy is right. WP:MCQ is the most appropriate place on Wikipedia to ask about copyright. --ColinFine (talk) 11:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

This (from 2 December 2007) is the final version of the article to have been titled "Montmorency/ Scarper", Blackballnz. Coho "moved Montmorency/ Scarper to Montmorency Series" (which was later renamed "Montmorency series"). "Montmorency/ Scarper" was started as a redirect but later became "Montmorency (character)"; you recently prodded it. The article "Montmorency" started as a stub about a Melbourne suburb, but swiftly became a disambiguation page. You can look in the histories of any of these articles for versions that had illustrations; once you know the filenames of the illustrations, you can find what happened to them. -- Hoary (talk) 11:14, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Muting a page section (on watchlist)

Is there a way to 'mute' a specific section so that updates to it don't appear on my watchlist, while allowing updates to other sections of the same page to still come through? Often a busy thread on AN/-I etc. dramaboards floods my watchlist for days on end, so that not only do they constantly send me updates I don't want to see, but they also mask updates to other sections on the same page which I still do want to see. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

No, but you can unwatch the page and subscribe to only the threads that interest you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Data dump

Requesting help to locate the June 2023 English Wikipedia data dump (SQL or XML file). This is required for research on Wikipedia reference patterns. Please provide any direct links or guidance. 4.53.151.98 (talk) 13:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Database download is probably what you're looking for. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

You could ask on WP:VPT, on meta:Talk:Data dumps, or on the xmldatadumps-l mailing list linked on meta:Data dumps; I list these in increasing order of likely success. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Requested move

I need help changing the title of a page from Margaret Spencer, Countess Spencer to Margaret Spencer, Viscountess Althorp

Reason: The current title is incorrect. Margaret Spencer never held the title Countess Spencer during her lifetime, she was known as Viscountess Althorp. Thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Please see WP:RM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 8 June 2025 (UTC)