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April 2

How Do I Delete?

I have another account now, so I want to know how to delete my old account. I can't find a delete spot on "my preferences," so how do i do it?Halldandude (talk) 00:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You cannot delete your own account (see this), but that page also gives other routes to what you can do. x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You may request that your user page and talk page be deleted by requesting speedy deletion by placing {{userreq}} on the page. Also see Wikipedia:Right to vanish. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Kanute or Canute?

Saying for a Canadian- Kanute or Canute? Which is correct and where did the saying come from- the Danes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.232.158 (talk) 00:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean Canuck? DuncanHill (talk) 01:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I am Danish and that term/word means nothing to me. Does not sound Danish either. IbLeo (talk) 20:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm also Danish. Canute is not Danish but it's an anglicized form of a Danish name. See Knut (which Canute redirects to). Knut and especially Knud are current Danish names (k is not silent before n in Danish). However, I don't know a Canadian connection and also suspect the poster means Canuck. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Since the user is Canadian I think they almost certainly heard about Canute the Great in grammar school sometime or other. In English history it's always spelled as in the article. -- BPMullins | Talk 03:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Daily Emails

Is it possible to receive a daily email of a random article? This would be great!01:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)01:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)~~ Thanks, Neil

Wikipedia doesn't do this (I don't think), but you could follow this article to do it. (Or you can get the featured article of the day from Wikipedia directly by email here. Cheers, --Bfigura ^(talk) 01:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Not what you asked for, but you could make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random the home page or a bookmark in your browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Protection of User pages

Shouldn't userpages be protected?!? why are they not protected? at least partialy, i mean, there is no reason for someone to edit an userpage except in the discussion area... (except when there is abuse from the user). I think that disencourages people to create their page, that way, they have to be always vigilant for vandalism, because no one is going to take care of their userpage... it's one more responsibility, have to go to wikipedia, just to check if it has not been vandalized... Can someone enlighten me on this subject? Thanks. SF007 (talk) 01:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Many userpages of high-visibility users (like vandalfighters) are often protected, but they have to go through the WP:RFPP page, same as any other page. They can't be semi-protected by default, and full protection would prevent the user from editing the page. They can't be made to only be editable by you (like your .js and .css pages), because sometimes people need to place template messages on it (like for sockpuppets). Hope this helps! Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 02:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Help Using a Specific Infobox

I am using the Infobox_Golf_Facility template and I cannot get the multiple course feature of it to work on the Raintree Country Club page and I do not understand why. I believe that I am setting everything up right. I also noticed that it doesn't seem to be working on the TPC at Sawgrass page either. Does anyone who is familiar with infoboxes mind taking a look at the pages for me to see what may be wrong? CAPTAIN: FOR GREAT JUSTICE. (talk) 02:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. The problem was that when each new section goes up in numbering the parameters which must also be named with that higher number, contained the numbering from the prior section. Thus, though the parameter names in course1, are par1= length1= rating1=; the next section, course2, must be followed by par2= length2= rating2= or the template breaks. By the way, there's no reason to wikilink prosaic things like numbers; par1= 70, not par1= [[70]], which then provides a link to our article on the number 70, which isn't quite needed for context here:-) Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks CAPTAIN: FOR GREAT JUSTICE. (talk) 03:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

info about youngest commercial pilot

Dear All

I want to know who is the youngest commercial pilot liencens holder in the world.

I also want the detail biodata and achivements by that great one.

plz reply me on email removed

regards

jayesh

Mumbai(India) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.188.226.118 (talk) 07:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, we don't respond to posts here via email. We also don't answer questions that aren't about using Wikipedia. You might get an answer if you ask at the reference desk. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

First time user

Hi. I have found a page about a friend of mine, Dominic Killalea. In that page it has a highlighted link for a band we used to play in together, Zoo Story. When you click on that link, there is no page about that band. Obviously no one has added any information about the group at this stage.

I would like to create a page for that link. How do I go about this? I have just gone through all the different areas trying to find out what to do and now have a headache and am very confused.

Your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Michael... Mykool1 (talk) 08:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

First, read WP:COI. As you were a member of the band, it's going to be a lot more difficult for you to remain neutral when writing the article. Second, you are going to need to cite verifiable, independent sources for the facts you cite in the article. Also, the band must meet our notability guidelines, specifically WP:BAND. If you think there are enough sourced to satisfy these rules, check out WP:FIRST for tips on how to write your first article. -- Kesh (talk) 10:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

When I search my article is not found.

Why when I search for the title of my article or name as author it cannot be found? Tara Mirling (R) Florida (talk) 08:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You've not actually posted the article where it's supposed to be. You put the article on your User page, which is supposed to be for information about yourself, and what you're working on in Wikipedia (take a look at User:Kesh for what mine looks like). That said, the information you posted to your user page is unsuitable for a Wikipedia article, and would likely be deleted. First, you have a conflict of interest in writing about your self, and autobiographies are discouraged. Second, the article is not written in a neutral tone, and comes across as advertising yourself. Finally, you don't actually cite any sources for any of this information, which is especially bad for biographies of living persons.

Basically, Wikipedia is not for self-promotion. If you feel you are notable enough for an article, I'd suggest making a request at our requested articles board for someone to write an article about you. Hope that helps! -- Kesh (talk) 10:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

And if you're looking for Liberal Logic is an oxymoron by Tara Mirling, that was speedily deleted as an opinion piece/essay, not even remotely suitable for Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

American cities

Which American city has most of Hungarians to live in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.99.156.117 (talk) 09:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. -- Kesh (talk) 10:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure if my entry is fixed now

Hi again,

Thanks for your help about fixing my issue. I had asked about the problems that I had in editing this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_electromagnetics#Partial_Element_Equivalent_Circuit_.28PEEC.29

Now I re-edited it and added "edit summary" which I did not do last time. My questions are:

1. Is my entry now finalized? I am newbie and not sure whether my post is completely done and accessible for all or not. 2. Should I add my signature which is (I think!) "130.240.188.36 (talk) 12:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)" to my post? How and where can do it? Will my post have problem without my signature? 3. I have added a reference (link to a web site) at the and of my post but it is does not work. My link does not appear in "references" part of the whole page and when I click on it the page will not redirected to that page. I followed instructions in Wikipedia help but it still doesn't work!

Regards,

Danesh Daroui

Hi, Danesh! You've added the section "Partial Element Equivalent Circuit (PEEC)" to the article Computational electromagnetics, and it's visible for all to see. I'm not sure how much of the rest of the article was written by you.

We don't put signatures in the articles. We put signatures on pages like this one here, and on talk pages (click the "discussion" tab at the top when looking at an article to get to its talk page) but articles can be edited by anyone so they count as collaborative efforts. The page history (click the "history" tab while looking at the article) shows your name to show that you contributed. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! Looks like an interesting topic -- I may come back and read that article when I have a little time! --Coppertwig (talk) 12:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. The issue related to the references is not solved yet. Can you please give me a clue about that too? My reference in that page still doesn't work.

Danesh Daroui (talk) 12:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Danesh, I have fixed the references for you - look at this diff to see what I did - [1]. I added {{reflist}} in the "References" section, this makes the inline references (like the one you added) show up. DuncanHill (talk) 15:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! It works now. I found out what the differences are.

Danesh Daroui (talk) 19:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Signature

How do you make a signature that links to two or more things, such as Nick4404 yada yada yada, in which the Nick4404 links to your UserPage and the yada yada yada links to your TalkPage? --Nick4404 (talk) 14:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Use:

[[User:Nick4404|Nick4404]] [[User talk:Nick4404|yada yada yada]]

See also Wikipedia:How to fix your signature. :) --PeaceNT (talk) 14:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Now, how do I make it a different color and font? [[User:Nick4404|Nick4404]] [[User talk:Nick4404|yada yada yada]] (talk) 15:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

And, I think there's something wrong with it. [[User:Nick4404|Nick4404]] [[User talk:Nick4404|yada yada yada]] (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

That's better. Nick4404 yada yada yada 15:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

So, about that diff color and font... Nick4404 yada yada yada 15:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Please...just don't. Multicoloured signatures just draw attention to the flashy signature and distract others from the valuable and insightful words words that you just wrote. Give your words the credit and respect they deserve—keep your signature plain and functional! On a more practical and less philosophical note, it's a bloody nuisance to try to edit a discussion where editors have multicoloured signatures because the comments are buried in HTML nonsense. I have seen a number of editors whose signatures span multiple lines in the edit window, and whose comments are regularly much shorter than their signature code. I have no respect for these editors. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

is this better? --grawity ^{talk / PGP} 18:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

And wouldn't "no respect" be a bit extreme? I can be bothered by certain things people do, without losing respect for other things they do. I too find customizable signatures to be largely a mistake - surely with all the problems remaining on Wikipedia, we have better things to do than frivolously monkey with our signatures. But for some reason lots of people like to monkey with their signatures, and according to Jimbo Wales the ultimate purpose of editing on Wikipedia is to have fun. As long as the fun doesn't sidetrack the encyclopedia project too much. --Teratornis (talk) 18:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing articles

If I add an article and someone else edits the article afterwards, will I be notified that someone has edited my article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Constructionline (talk • contribs) 15:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't set up to email you or actively notify you, but you can add an article to your watchlist. The watchlist, when you visit or refresh it, shows the most recent edit (and editor) of all your watchlisted articles. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Trouble with Save page

Hi,

Trouble editing this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Öberg

After editing this text, such as bold and links, I press "Save page". The changes will go online, but only for a couple of hours, then they disappear and the text is back to "normal" again.

On "edit this page" everything seem to be correct, but again, after saving the page the changes will not last very long. On the "history" page I can't see any problem. I haven't found any answer to this problem in FAQ.

Perhaps someone can help?

Kind regards,

Hans 213.100.89.251 (talk) 16:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Most likely, your browser is just pulling a cached version of the page when you visit it later. See the instructions on how to clear your cache here. That said, the article really doesn't look like it adheres to our policies and guidelines, specifically: WP:NPOV, WP:BLP, and WP:BAND, as well as WP:N and WP:V. You'll want to read those, and add proper references if this article is going to stay on Wikipedia. -- Kesh (talk) 16:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. Being a new user, where do I add proper references? Perhaps you can refer to a link (one of the above?)? I don't want this article to be deleted. Thanks. 213.100.89.251 (talk) 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Check out WP:CITE. It can be a little tricky, so take a look at how some other pages formatted their reference tags as examples. -- Kesh (talk) 18:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:FOOT (which WP:CITE links to) is our attempt to tell how to add references to articles as footnotes. (The basic instruction kit for references is: WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:CITET.) If you find something in WP:FOOT confusing, let us know, and maybe we can make it clearer. However, a lot of new users have tested those instructions by working through them, so I hope the instructions are getting pretty good by now. One of the great strengths of Wikipedia is that we document everything about how to make Wikipedia, and everybody who reads the documentation is free to improve anything they find unclear. Over time, this leads to some pretty good documentation, although the sheer volume tends to overwhelm new users at first. --Teratornis (talk) 04:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Problem adding references

I am a newbie and just can't find info on correcting the page Throughput Accounting where it sais "This article does not cite any references or sources. (June 2007) Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed." at the top.

I have entered 4 references but the page still shows that the article does not cite any references or sources. Can anyone help this lost newbie. Thanks, TAUser TA User (talk) 16:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• Sure, the template is not removed automatically, it has to be manually removed. I'll remove it now. Cheers, Steve Crossin (talk to me) 16:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Too late, I already updated the temp, to refimprove... = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 16:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like someone beat me to it [2] Steve Crossin (talk to me) 16:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for your help. TA User (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Gartner

In the spirit of transparency I wanted to let you know that I am Anthony Bradley an analyst with Gartner covering social software and April 2 I removed this link http://www.johnmwillis.com/tapscott/entperprise-20-all-the-kings-men-gartner-and-the-coase-theorem/ from the "External Links" section of the Gartner wikipedia article. I removed it because it is a bloggers opinion piece that has many factual errors (including an obvious error that Gartner analysts were gods in 1977 when even the wikipedia article (accrately) lists Gartner's founding year in 1979). I don't believe wikipedia (which I love) should be a platform for bloggers to promote their views. I can see exceptions made when propper citation and research attribution is evident. In general, with the social web, I beleive that correcting bad research with better research is the way to go vice deleting but I don't beleive, in this instance (or similar ones) that wikipedia is the right venue for those discussions.

Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.140.148.33 (talk) 16:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining your edit to the Gartner article. You may wish to read WP:COI and WP:EL. --Teratornis (talk) 18:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Thinker

This article is libelous and presents false information.

"daily extremist conservative internet publication"

We are not extremist, we are a mainstream conservative publication. Presenting this as fact is wrong. We do not advocate violence, overthrow of the Constitution or anything that could reasonably be described as extremist. Only someone who believes the entire GOPP is extremiost could think this. I challenge the author to present substantiation for this libel.

"The site frequently endorses controversial conservative commentators such as Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh.[2][3]."

We do not "endorse" any radio commentators. We have barely mentioned Michael Savage in 4.5 years of publication. We do not "endorse" Rush Limbaugh either, though we often agree with him. While we are proud that he frequently reads from our articles on air, our standing in the world of internet journalism is based on much more than his readership.

I challenge the writer to show me any instance where we have "endorsed" either man

We have been quoted in publications ranging from the New York Times and Le Monde to Newsweek and the UK Telegraph. We are a serious publication, and widely recognized as such around the world.

Douglas Hanson has not been our national security correspondent for several months, as he has accepted an assignment which precludes his writing for the public.

Please feel free to contact me for further information.

American Thinker deserves a much more extensive article, as we are one of the most influential and respected political websites in the nation. We certainly do not deserve the publication of falsehoods fabricated to discredit us.

Thomas Lifson email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomaslifson (talk • contribs) 16:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You seem to have removed those bits yourself, which, under WP:Libel you are allowed to do, why come here also? --Cameron (t|p|c) 17:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm somewhat surprised to hear a conservative assert a claim to entitlement. I had heard only liberals believe in entitlements. How does American Thinker, or any other subject, "deserve" any particular treatment on Wikipedia? Wikipedia is entirely written by its unpaid volunteers, ordinary people who work on whatever they feel like working on. If American Thinker doesn't have a very good article on Wikipedia yet, that means nobody who has bothered to make the considerable effort to learn how to edit good articles on Wikipedia has yet taken an interest in catering to Mr. Lifson's sense of entitlement. However, see WP:DEADLINE. Wikipedia is a work in progress, and should continue to improve over the coming years, as more and more people roll up their sleeves and apply the good old-fashioned conservative values of hard work and self-improvement, by reading our friendly manuals and learning how to make Wikipedia better. On Wikipedia, there is definitely no free lunch. Everything here exists only because someone took it upon themselves to do the hard work necessary to build it. If it turns out that liberals are more willing to do that work than conservatives, well then I guess we're going to end up with some liberal bias here, if only in coverage rather than point of view. --Teratornis (talk) 18:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I should point out that if my above response appears to border on violating WP:CIVIL, I get the idea from Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter that conservatives understand straight talk. (Disclamer: I lean toward conservatism on some issues, particularly some economic issues insofar as meritocracy goes, but decidedly not on the anti-science stuff. I'm also aware of the tragedy of the commons.) --Teratornis (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

From what I see in the edit history of the page, the word "extremist" was on the page from the 11-14 march.[3] --h2g2bob (talk) 22:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Our Extremism article gives some interesting information. Almost no group calls itself "extremist"; the word is almost always exonymic and a pejorative. (Perhaps I should start a new organization: The Popular Front for People Who Self-Identify as Extremists, and see if anyone joins.) Thus the word "extremist" as an unqualified descriptor is not suitable for encyclopedic writing (sort of like the other extreme from promotional language). However, if some notable commentator called someone else an extremist, and we had a reliable source for that, then we could mention that with proper attribution. --Teratornis (talk) 03:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

How do I upgrade the eSignal entry from stub status (I am not the original author)?

Hi,

I hesitate to send this, given all the warnings on the previous page, but I would like to change the status of the eSignal entry in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esignal) to something above "stub" status and can't seem to find an article that would step me through the process.

I should note here that I am not the original author of the article.

Daniellegs (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Please advise, Daniellegs

I've removed the stub template since, very simply, it's not a stub anymore. As to giving it a new status, the majority of articles with a specified status or "class" are so assessed by a relevant WikiProject, and indicated as such on the talk page. Individual projects have their own assessment procedures. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

At the moment, eSignal has no talk page (Talk:eSignal is a red link), which means no WikiProject has claimed it yet by adding a project banner to the talk page. See WP:LAYOUT for some hints about how to further improve the eSignal article. For example, an obvious addition would be a "See also" section with links to similar software packages, or articles describing the general concepts behind the software that aren't linked elsewhere in the article. Also read Help:Link to learn how to link to our articles compactly rather than by pasting in entire URLs. --Teratornis (talk) 18:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

is this notable?

would a bus operating company be notable? it operates 20+ buses and even more other vehicles. cargo trucks and such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.72.13 (talk) 18:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Not for that, no. There are bus and truck companies all over the world, so simply having X amount of vehicles is not notable. -- Kesh (talk) 19:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The only real guideline for notability is WP:N, or in this case WP:CORP. If it's been in the news, then it's likely to be notable. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

ADDING A PICTURE

HOW CAN I ADD APICTURE IN AN EXISTING ARTICLE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.157.155.77 (talk) 19:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

There are lots of ways; see Wikipedia:Images. And please don't use all caps when posting a comment. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Advice on knocking people out

Dear wikipedia. I am alarmed to find on your site advice on knocking people out, as seen on your reference desks. It seems almost like you are encouraging the questioner to carry it out. There are dozens of answers advising one of the best method to render someone unconscious. Do you stop to think that this kind of information could be used by a rapist, pedophile or criminal? Please take this down. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.129.143 (talk) 19:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Not going to happen..sorry. 1.) Wikipedia is not censored and 2.) There is nonsense all over the internet that people can use to research to commit crime. I think that would be enough to absolve responsibility. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to the page where you found such discussions? What was the context? This is just out of curiosity, since it seems unlikely to me that violence is being encouraged. Leebo ^T/C 20:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I found it. It seems to be this: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#alternative to chloroform. The question was not asking for advice about knocking people out. The questioner is a writer trying to come up with a less conventional plot device. Leebo ^T/C 20:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia also has an extensive collection of articles about small arms. In the wrong hands, this information can and does lead to things like the War in Darfur; however, criminals, warlords, etc. were obtaining this information long before Wikipedia appeared. We can only hope that with enough information, we can understand and eliminate violence. That might seem farfetched, but Google for Steven Pinker's lecture A Brief History of Violence (here, I'll help) for some surprising facts about how the per capita incidence of violence has decreased enormously over the centuries. That's no comfort for anyone who does fall victim to crime or war, of course, but it does suggest that social and intellectual progress tends to reduce violence more than increase it. Hopefully, Wikipedia can be part of that overall historic trend. --Teratornis (talk) 03:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

help locating topic

I asked a question about claustrophobia on what I thought was a science talk page. I can't find it. Maflint (talk) 19:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Try WP:RD/SCI. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

If it's not there, it might have been archived; try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Science/March 2008 for last month's archive. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

If you know which IP address or account was used then you can use Special:Contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Or maybe it is in these search results. —teb728 t c 23:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Checking user levels

Hi - I'd like to know if there's a way that I (or in practice a script of mine) can check whether a given user is a newbie (less than four days), a bot, or the like. I've searched Wikipedia as thoroughly as I can and can't find anything on this. Thanks! Pseudomonas_(talk) 20:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Special:ListUsers can be helpful. For instance, if you search for me, it’ll show you I am an administrator. Many other designations are indicated too. You can search within them, or just by name. Leebo ^T/C 20:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

That's true, but apparently "recently-registered-user" isn't one of the listed designations, and that's the principle one I want. Pseudomonas_(talk) 20:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll have to check the logs for individuals to determine when they registered and figure out if it's been fewer than 4 days. Most people don't have many log actions if they're new, and it would be the first one listed. Leebo ^T/C 20:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

There's no direct way to get at the flag that deals with people editing semi-protected articles and appearing in newbies' contribs? Pseudomonas_(talk) 20:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of a more automated process of determining new-user status. Such a flag may exist in the code that runs those functions, but I'm not aware of it. A developer might know, but that's as much help as I can provide. Sorry. Leebo ^T/C 20:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, well - thanks for the suggestion of doing it through the logs. I'll get cracking on that. Pseudomonas_(talk) 20:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You may already know about the API - it's usually very good, but the best I could get out of it this time was the account creation date. --h2g2bob (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Some of the counting tools provide some portions of this data. For example, Interiot's tool tells you whether a user is a sysop and/or a bureaucrat or not. It also shows the date of a user's first edit. While a first edit may not necessarily correspond to the date of a user's account creation, it very often does; enough so that you can tell when most users' accounts are or are not yet autoconfirmed. I'm not sure if it would be useful for what you want to do. But I think you can see all approved bots, thus all having a flag, through Category:Wikipedia approved bot requests.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Make it bigger?

I have a picture on Wikipedia that I want to make bigger. It's a small picture and I want to get it up to at least 1000px. How do I do it? Here is the picture.

I am the uploader, if that helps any.Mattkenn3 (talk) 22:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll have to do that on your computer (say, with Photoshop or something like that) then re-upload the picture. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 22:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You will get poor detail if you do stretch it to 1000 pixels. Probably best to download a higher res from here (I presume that is where it came from, then someone cropped and rotated it). Astronaut (talk) 00:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, such a blowup would likely be too poor for Wikipedia mainspace. And Wikipedia:Image use policy#Displayed image size recommends a maximum of 550px for any image. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: The MoS is for the image displayed in the article, not the image itself. It's absolutely OK to upload an image more than 550px, just don't put it that big on an article. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 00:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I know. The link says "Displayed image size" but maybe I should have said it more directly. However, I don't see a good reason to enlarge an image from below 550px to 1000px with the resulting loss in quality. But if you can get your hands on a good high resolution original then it's fine to upload. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. You can make them as large as you want. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 08:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't mean 1000. I meant at least 100.Mattkenn3 (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Bibliography on Wikepedia

I've been looking for a way to write a bibliography on wikepedia.org but have not found the information necessary. Would you please help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.160.143 (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It depends. If you want to use Wikipedia to store your bibliography for a paper, then no as Wikipedia is not a file-hosting server. But if you want to cite reliable sources for an article, then Wikipedia:Citing sources will contain information you want. Xenon⁵⁴ 23:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Also see No original research. However, depending on what you may be researching, you might find something useful under WP:EIW#Research. Be aware that lots of other wikis exist, and many other wikis accept original research, if that's what you're doing; see wikiindex:. If you tell us the subject of your bibliography, we might be able to give you some definite advice rather than this conditional branch advice. --Teratornis (talk) 03:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Image from German Wikipedia

I would like to use an image that is used in German Wikipedia here on English Wikipedia. What is the procedure for this? Thanks. Nick Graves (talk) 23:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Since the image is on Wikimedia Commons, not the German Wikipedia (look closely at the page on the german wikipedia), you can link to it like any other picture by doing [[Image:Schmidt-Salomon.jpg]]. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 00:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Help editing the title of my page

I know this is won't stop searches from coming to my page but I would like to edit the main title of the page. For some reason (maybe during the initial search before creating the page), parts of the title is lower case and I would like it all to be upper case for proper formatting. How do I go about doing this? I went into Edit This Page but there wasn't a place to change the title but only the body of text.

The page is: "James irvine foundation" should be "James Irvine Foundation"

Grantmaker (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Grantmaker

Use the "move" tab at top of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi, I fixed it for you - at the top of the page is a tab marked "move". I used this to move it to the correct capitalization, at James Irvine Foundation. DuncanHill (talk) 00:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Willy on Wheels

How many sockpuppets does Willy on Wheels have? 124.176.173.188 (talk) 22:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's impossible to know given the number of impersonators he has. I checked the sockpuppet categories, and it seems it's not being kept track of at all, which isn't needed for a move vandal anyway. Someguy1221 (talk) 03:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You can find lots of information about Willy on Wheels by using some of the sample searches in the documentation for the {{Google custom}} template. For example:

• Search Wikipedia's Wikipedia: namespace for: Willy on Wheels

Perusing the search results finds quite a few mentions, for example:

• Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2007 April 11#Who was Willy on Wheels?

But see WP:DENY - we aren't supposed to call attention to vandals. In any case, this question is probably not about using Wikipedia; if it's a general knowledge question, the Reference desk would be more appropriate; if you're actually having a technical problem with one of these sockpuppets, maybe you could try the Village pump. --Teratornis (talk) 03:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Who's Willy? --grawity ^{talk / PGP} 14:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

April 3

Incorrect photo on page.

Hi,

The Michael Geoghegan depicted in the photo on this page is not the same Michael Geoghegan (CEO of HSBC) that is described on the page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Geoghegan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.255.153 (talk) 03:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 03:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Appropriate edit summary for section zero

Normally, when editing a particular section in an article, the edit summary automatically begins with /* Section Name */. When I edit section zero, however no "section name" appears. How should I describe that I am editing the first section of an article as opposed to the whole thing? Should I just make some thing up like /* Lead Section */ or /* Section Zero */? Is there a preferred or recommended format to use, is it up to my judgment? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I usually don't specify it if the edit is minor. If I'm making a significant change, I just drop the word "lead" somewhere in the summary. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

And no, there is no official recommendation. The point of edit summaries is to briefly let people know what you did. Strict formatting rules would be silly. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you noticed, the contents of the /* */ affect the little arrow to the left of them, allowing people to immediately move to the section you edited from the watchlist or page history. That's the main purpose, in my mind, so making it into something that isn't a section header doesn't really have a purpose. Leebo ^T/C 04:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I normally use /* 0 */ or /* section 0 */, but I don't think it really matters; anything that isn't a section name will jump to the top of the article when the arrow is clicked, so you can use anything that's clear to humans editing the article. --ais523 14:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought I was doing it right... But now I... Help!

I probably did all kinds of things wrong and probably broke all kinds of rules... I apologise for that

I was trying to add new information to an article Forever More. There is a song by that name and there is a band from the 1970's by that name. Basically I added information about the band to the article about the song... Then I realised that would probably pi__ off the user who created the original page.

So, I wrote an article about the band (Forever More (Band)) in the "My Talk" area of my account and renamed it "Forever More (Band)." - But I see that the "article" that it created is basically my personal talk page. What do I need to do, make a "User" account named for the article I wish to write? I am kind of lost here.

I changed the title of the original article Forever More to Forever More (Song by Moloko) and that went through- I don't know if the article is protected or not. What I wanted to do, was to make a page "Forever More" that listed the Moloko Song article and my band article so a person could choose which article they want to read.

So, I put Moloko's Forever More (Song by Moloko) article back to basically exactly how they had it, but now, my own article is a MESS - My references have vanished, the REF tags do not appear to input my refs anymore, plus, I just don't have any idea if I am doing anything right, all I wanted to do is make a page that references the 1970's band "Forever More" - References are hard to find and I do not know what is acceptable. I want to put a "Help Me" on my page but I can't figure out how to do that either.

Sorry for being such a bother,

(I managed to get a HELP ME on the pages I am working on, also, I may not be able to get in here for some days, I'll try to get back here within 2 to 5 days)

(Forgive me, I put Help Me on the User talk Page I needed help with, someone came and edited it out, cos the User Talk Page IS the article! That's what I need the help with. Should I repost the "help me?" - The guy deleted my help me before I could type in what I needed help with. I'll take this up later, I have to leave. I don't want to break any etiquette, but on the other hand I want to type in what I need help with).

Social Spit: 1980-Present (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I think I tidied it up, and the references weren't showing because there was no {{reflist}}. For future reference, you probably shouldn't move your talk page into userspace, and I'd suggest not using it for experiments. You have a near infinite number of potential user subpages, however (User:WeApronX/Sandbox1, User:WeApronX/Sandbox2, etc. or just User:WeApronX/Forever More). And the point is to keep the history of your talk page out of articles, as well as preventing difficulty in contacting you. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

How can i upload word document or EXCEL document on my page

Hello

How can i upload Word document or Excel document on my page. Please help me out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buildteam (talk • contribs) 08:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You can’t. Well, you could convert a Word document to text with Wikimarkup. And you could convert an Excel spreadsheet to a table. —teb728 t c 08:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Imp for some tools that might help. Also search the Help desk archive for: convert spreadsheet for previous answers to similar questions. --Teratornis (talk) 15:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Direct article links in google

Why do the articles Denzel Washington, Commodity Market etc. appear in the links section when 'Wikipedia' is googled? 194.75.236.69 (talk) 10:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

When I google for: Wikipedia I do not see the articles you mention in the first five pages of results, but Google reports 270,000,000 results, so Google will probably find every page on Wikipedia if you scroll far enough. That's because the word "Wikipedia" appears on every page on Wikipedia. Wikipedia has no control over what Google does. For information about how Google decides which pages to display, see PageRank. --Teratornis (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Teratornis, if you look at the first result, there's a "Search Wikipedia" bar and above it a bunch of seemingly random articles listed. I think that's what the question is referring to. But either way, it's as you said, we can't control Google. Leebo ^T/C 16:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hah. I'm so conditioned to ignore the Google ads, it's like my brain is running Adblock. Whatever is at the very top, I just skip over. I should probably use Ctrl-F search rather than rely on my eyes. Anyway, while we can't control what Google does (or even what my eyes do, in my case it seems), we can search the Wikipedia Signpost for: Google to see what Wikipedians have written about the relationship (of sorts) between Google and Wikipedia. It stands to reason that two of the world's largest sites will take each other into account. Many Google searches lead people to Wikipedia articles, and Wikipedia users have found some ways to use Google's tools (for example the {{Google custom}} template, etc.). --Teratornis (talk) 02:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Fingerprint

  Dear ir,
          My name ( Dr. Name removed ) 
 I have been taken my Master Degree From ( Zhejiang Collage Of    
    T.C.M ) in Hangzhou – China 
 And now am applying for Immigration to Canada
And the Canadian embassy asked my for getting (Fingerprint)   
 because   I have stay  in  Hangzhou – China from from ( 9/2001-    
    7/2004 ) 

      If you please help me were can I do these subject 

                Thanks 
              Dr. Waleed Menecy
         please you can reply me in my mail add
              (Email removed)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.201.245.105 (talk) 10:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 

If I understand you correctly, the canadian embassy wants your fingerprints to process your application for immigration visa. I think asking for fingerprints is quite a normal part of the process and I suggest you talk to your nearest canadian embassy for further help.

Note that this is help page for problems using Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. We are totally unconnected to the canadian embassy.

Astronaut (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

How do I create a template?

I know how to create pages but I havn't found where I can create a template yet, can someone please help? TeePee-20.7 (talk) 12:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Please view Help:Template on how to create templates. --Cameron (t|p|c) 13:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you just direct me to the quick way of creating one please. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 13:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

To quickly create a page in the template namespace, make a red link to the page name you want, such as Template:WhateverYouWantToNameIt, click on that link, go to the page, and create it. Then placing {{WhateverYouWantToNameIt}} on another page will transclude that template page. For all the info on the powerful tools available when editing templates, you'll need that help page Cameron mentioned. Leebo ^T/C 13:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks everyone that helped me I really appreciate your help. :D TeePee-20.7 (talk) 03:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

(undent) For me the quickest method is to Search Wikipedia's Template: namespace for an existing template similar to the template I want to create. Then I copy its wikitext to my new template and edit it. Note that while you are experimenting with templates you can use a user subpage to test it with. For example, I'm monkeying with a new navigation template for bioenergy articles, in User:Teratornis/Sandbox2, which I am adapting by copying the existing {{Peak oil}} template that I helped to create earlier. Testing in your own user subpage reduces the chance of a vigilant administrator nominating your prototype template for deletion before you finish it. Also, if you adapt your template from an existing template, you might be able to justify your template's existence on a basis similar to that for the existing template. Templates can get deleted too, much like articles. For example, before I worked on the {{Google custom}} template, I read the deletion discussion for the previously-existing {{Google}} template, and I took into account the lessons learned there (namely, to add code to the template to prevent its use in articles, which would violate WP:EL). Anyway, if you tell us more about the template you want to create, someone can probably give you detailed help. Templates on Wikipedia can become extremely esoteric. --Teratornis (talk) 04:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

PURPLE HEART LIST

MY FATHER EDWARD F. SWANTEK RECIEVED A PURPLE HEART IN WW2 BUT HIS NAME IS NOT ON YOUR LIST, PLEASE CORRECT THIS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.82.99.179 (talk) 13:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

There's a list of notable Purple Heart recipients in the Purple Heart article. Was your father notable for some other reason than being a Purple Heart recipient? Review the notability guidelines if you're not sure. Other than that, do we have some kind of Purple Heart list that is more expansive? Leebo ^T/C 13:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

No we merely have the mini list you mentioned. It only includes notable members.--Cameron (t|p|c) 13:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

PS: Please sign future edit to wikipedia with four tildes (~~~~). That way people know who to contact. Thanks!--Cameron (t|p|c) 13:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Note that 'notable' in the context of Wikipedia has a fairly specific meaning; to suggest that your father wasn't 'notable' for the purposes of this encyclopedia isn't intended to be a slur on him or his accomplishments. By 'notable' what the editors above mean is, "Were this individual's life, accomplishments, and/or notoriety such that he would have an article in Wikipedia, whether or not he had received a Purple Heart?" In the last century, several hundreds of thousands of Purple Hearts have been awarded ([4]); Wikipedia is unable to maintain an exhaustive list of all recipients. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe the poster saw Category:Recipients of the Purple Heart medal and called it a list instead of a category (common for new users and this category page calls itself a list). Categories like that are only for people who have an article in Wikipedia, and Edward F. Swantek does not. The conditions in Wikipedia:Notability (people) should be satisfied to get an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Template

I need to know how to make templates for articles of focus from specific wikiprojects. i know a small amount about wikimarkup, so any help would be appreciated.the juggreserection ^IstKrieg! 13:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

This question is hard to understand. To help other people answer your question, you should use specific terms that other people can recognize and attach definite meaning to. Otherwise, respondents have to guess what the question means (and the more time we spend trying to figure out a question, the more likely we are to get edit conflicts with other respondents). If you aren't sure about the specific terms, state whatever page(s) you were viewing when you formulated the question. If we can see what you saw, then we might better understand what you need. OK, I'm done whining, now I will try to understand the question. I searched Wikipedia's Wikipedia: namespace for "articles of focus"; oddly, this finds only two results, a page and its subpage:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Slipknot/AoF

That page gives some example templates that might be similar to what you want: {{CurrentWPSlipAoF}} and {{PastWPSlipAoF}}. Is that what you are trying to make for some other WikiProjects? For general information about templates, see Help:Template. The WP:TEMPLATES page gives examples of many templates. --Teratornis (talk) 15:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry for being vague. I have seen the slipknot template, and thats what i need, except I need it for the Psychopathic records wikiproject. Also, i have read Help:templates, and its very hard to understand.the juggreserection ^IstKrieg! 15:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for my response, which borders on a bit uncivil upon rereading. On Wikipedia we have a problem that thousands of people write our project pages, so the terminology isn't fully standardized. The "articles of focus" phrase seems to be a bit rare, and it confused me at first, but Google to the rescue, it seems I found the page that motivated your question. You're not kidding about Help:Templates; I must have read that page or parts of it a dozen times when I was new. I couldn't say it's 100% crystal clear to me now. But I can fake my way through templates a little by copying existing templates to make new similar templates, and looking up the various magic words and parser functions and other odd bits. So you probably want to copy the {{CurrentWPSlipAoF}} template to a Template:CurrentWPPsycopathAoF page and edit it to display what you want. That shouldn't be too terribly hard to do, but you might want to start by editing in your user space such as User:The juggreserection/Sandbox. Do you understand how to copy text from an existing template page into a new page? --Teratornis (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, i took your advice, and made a template that i think will work. Its on User:The juggreserection/Sandbox if you want to see how i did. BTW i just used Article Of Focus as an example, WikiProject Slipknot had used it.the juggreserection ^IstKrieg! 13:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I glanced superficially at it and it looks pretty good. Imagine how long it would take to actually understand what you did! Too bad we can't do brain surgery the same way: just copy a sane healthy brain and edit it to fit my skull. Now you can proudly boast to your friends, "Three days ago I couldn't even spell 'template programmer'. Now I are one." --Teratornis (talk) 06:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Globe logo

I considered asking this question at m:Help Forum, but looking at that page I realized I'd be more likely to get an answer here. How does someone (presumably an admin) at a small language Wikipedia go about changing the Wikipedia globe logo that appears in the upper left-hand corner (in Monobook skin at least) of every page? In particular, if you look at the main page of the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia at dsb:Głowny bok, you see the logo image in its universal position is in English, while the image with the Lower Sorbian caption "Lichotna encyklopedija" appears in the text area of the main page. How can this be changed so that the "Lichotna encyklopedija" image appears in the upper left-hand corner not only of the main page but of every page there? —Angr ^{If you've written a quality article...} 14:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Normally in the MediaWiki software, a sysop specifies the logo graphic with $wgLogo. See m:Help:Contents#For administrators. --Teratornis (talk) 15:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

meta:Requests for logos suggests uploading an image with the name Image:Wiki.png. --h2g2bob (talk) 17:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

That's already been done: . m:Requests for logos also says "there's a pretty good chance something requested on this page will never get noticed". —Angr ^{If you've written a quality article...} 19:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, there was a contest for mascots. The Wikipede won. I'm not sure about logos, though. Nothing444 20:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

• I've made a request for this to be changed. Please protect the page dsb:Image:Wiki.png. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I've requested protection of an admin, since I'm not one myself. Thanks for making the bug report! —Angr ^{If you've written a quality article...} 21:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Analytics

How can I see how many people have viewed my wikipedia entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Briguyblock (talk • contribs) 15:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe an admin can confirm this, but I believe the page statistics have been switched off for performance reasons; so, no you cannot see how many people have viewed an article. Astronaut (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

http://stats.grok.se/ was still working last I checked. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Why does this say [edit][edit][edit]?

I notice that this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glendale%2C_CO contains "[edit][edit][edit]" about half way down next to the photo. Can someone help me figure out why this happened? Thx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.253.171.134 (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The image was causing the error, should be ok now. --Badgernet (talk) 15:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Great -- thanks!

• Also, please see How to fix bunched-up edit links for tips on why this occurs and how to fix it. —Noah 16:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Excellent tip, cheers, --Badgernet (talk) 16:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

about image uploading

why am not able to upload a image though am a user....i have logged in --Ankita garg1 (talk) 17:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It's because you're still classed as a "new user". You will be able to upload images (and edit semi-protected pages) 4 days after you registered, sometime on the 5 April. --h2g2bob (talk) 17:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If the image is entirely your own work (or out of copyright, or licensed under a free-content license), then you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons instead. Uploading images there magically uploads the image to Wikipedia in all languages, plus the other Wikimedia projects. It's technically a separate project, so you need to register for an account there, but unlike here you have to wait before uploading things. --h2g2bob (talk) 17:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

News about Wikipedia

I saw an article in the newspaper I get delivered to my home (on paper). It suggested Wikipedia might change its policies.

Here is a link to the article I saw.

http://www.charlotte.com/business/story/550264.html

Where on Wikipedia is such current news about Wikipedia?Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

That article doesn't seem to suggest that Wikipedia is going to do anything at all. It speculates on what Wikipedia might want to do, based on its own perspectives, and then shows Jimbo discussing the strengths and weaknesses of how it works now (notice, he never says "We're thinking about changing it."). Leebo ^T/C 17:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Press coverage is the place to record third-party coverage of Wikipedia. Bovlb (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but is this mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia other than right here?Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Oh, thanks. I didn't see an answer because it was posted before my question and was therefore above it.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. As an aside, it seems common for reports of interviews with Wikipedia figures like Jimbo to present themselves as announcing a change in policy. I suppose this is a natural trend towards sensationalism and increases their readership, but it does get people unnecessarily excited when it gets back to the community. I recall Jimbo having to issue at least one "clarification" after an interviewer suggested he had decided to put advertisements in Wikipedia. For what it's worth, I don't believe that he is likely to use an interview like that as the venue to announce major changes. He's more likely to philosophise and speculate. Bovlb (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If anything important happens with Wikipedia policy, it will probably show up in WP:SIGNPOST. You can also search the Wikipedia Signpost for text in past issues. Jimbo Wales likes to jet all around the world and kind of speak off the cuff quite a bit, when he's not allegedly enjoying a wiki quickie with Canada's answer to Ann Coulter, the fetching Rachel Marsden. Last year Jimbo was talking about his open source search engine that would rival Google, but it seems that idea hasn't gotten very far yet. If something changes and we don't like it, I suppose we could protest with a work slowdown, but things are already pretty sedate around here so I doubt anyone would notice. --Teratornis (talk) 04:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Memories of Worth Ranch

I don't understand why you don't like the artical —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.93.63.241 (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The article Worth Ranch was deleted by User:NawlinWiki, and the reason given was lack of context. You can contact him at User talk:NawlinWiki. He may not check this page. Leebo ^T/C 19:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Keeping A Journal On Wikipedia

I've been wondering, why can't I make a Journal on Wikipedia? By Journal I mean just a page like a talk page that I can just write journal entries. I already have a link to one on my User Page but before I did anything with it I thought I should see if I actually could do it. Any help with will be appreciated. Thanks. Arkkeeper (talk) 20:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, social networking, or memorial site. There are plenty of places for that; we're not one of them. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC) (has a LiveJournal)

(e/c) We give user some leeway with respect to their user page Still, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and you cannot treat it as a webhosting service, blog, forum, social networking site, etc. Please see WP:NOT#MYSPACE. As stated at Wikipedia:User page: "Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia. Examples of unrelated content include: A weblog recording your non-Wikipedia activities..." and continues with many other examples. With the wealth of free sites allowing webhosting of all sorts and without restriction, please just use another site and feel free to keep a link to that from your user page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

On the other hand, making journal entries on your user page relating to your work on Wikipedia is OK, like the articles you are working on, pages you find useful for working on Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 20:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You might make user subpages for notes about your various Wikipedia projects, if you work on articles in more than one topic area, or template programming, etc. The Wikimedia Foundation is attracting some decent donations lately, so there should be no problem paying for the disk space if you have notes to write that would support the encyclopedia work. If you just want to kind of blog generally on Wikipedia, there are other sites for that, as Orangemike mentions. See WikiIndex for some possibilities, if you like editing on a wiki. Some people (waves hand) have even been known to sneak a little POV into answers to questions on the Help desk (shame on me). --Teratornis (talk) 04:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Improperly Cited Article?

Hey guys,

I was reading one of the articles at this site, and noticed that some of the text was very similar to what I had read on another website. Specifically, the "biography" section of the wiki article on St. Benedict of Nursia (Benedict_of_Nursia#Biography) seems to be a direct copy-and-paste from the New Advent article @ http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02467b.htm.

This information isn't wrong, but it does seem improperly cited. Is there a good way to report this issue? I've never contributed to Wikipedia and really don't know how to do this; I just noticed the similarity because I had recently read the New Advent page, so I thought I should bring the issue up.

Marta <rem email for protection>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.135.147 (talk) 20:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Detailed procedures are at WP:COPYVIO. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the offending text. Since Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL, we cannot accept copyrighted material. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I just checked. Th test was originally from the public-domain "catholic encyclopedia of 1913. The citation was lost along withe a fair amount of other stuff in messed-up vandalism on feb 6, 2008. I do not have time to fix this now. 208.226.76.43 (talk) 20:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I just reverted to what I believe was the last clean, pre-vandalism version. I have requested the forgiveness of anyone whose subsequent edits I have removed in doing so. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

accused of vandalism

Resolved

Please help me. I've been accused of vandalism, but I swear I've never even edited Wikipedia before. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.129.161.42 (talk) 21:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion you did vandalize... [5] If this was not you then can i suggest you create your own account. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 21:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Just ignore it. IP addresses can be dynamic, meaning they may change frequently, or static, meaning they are assigned to particular computers every time they connect to a network. You saw that message left for "you" (probably by getting an orange bar across your screen which said "you have new messages") because your ip is dynamic and when you came here with your computer connecting under that ip you saw a message left in light of edits by another person. These are good reasons, if you'd like to continue editing Wikipedia, to create an account—click here to do so.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

ADDING AN ARTICLE ABOUT A BAND

Hi everyone,

I am new to Wikipedia and I just had a quick question. I saw that guidelines advising to not add articles about a band that I am in however if the article is written with humility and professionalism it may stay.

I am in a professional band that has an album out distributed worldwide. We are a professional act that has a lot of history even though we are unsigned an independently produced. What I wanted to know was if it was ok for me to contribute an article about the band.

Information on the band can be found at <rem self advertising> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanillajoke (talk • contribs) 21:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If someone could please let me know, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Vanillajoke (talk) 21:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a good idea. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Also, unless the band has gotten significant media coverage, the article is likely to be deleted. Friday (talk) 21:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

To clarify what Friday said, indeed what you're talking about is the problem of a conflict of interest, which if you have one and you try to write an article is likely to lead to something that doesn't have a neutral point of view. The other issue is the notability criteria for bands, which basically states that unless you can verify that the band is notable - e.g. mentioned in newspapers, albums that have charted highly, etc. - the article will probably be deleted, maybe in a matter of minutes. If you think that an article can be written that meets those criteria, then one thing you could try would be to write the article as a subpage of your userspace (such as User:Vanillajoke/The Best Band Ever), and then ask someone uninvolved to look at it and see if they think it can be moved to main article space - maybe asking at the Music WikiProject. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd also like to point out that it is neutrality, not "humility and professionalism", that is important in new articles. While I'm sure you could write a professional-looking article on your band, it just isn't possible to be completely neutral and unbiased about your own band. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 23:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If your band is notable enough per Wikipedia's guidelines, then it is only a matter of time before someone else starts an article about your band. Articles on unsigned bands are usually deleted on sight. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 01:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

How can this mistake be fixed?

Resolved

I just looked at my contributions page, and I saw that I mistakenly "removed the category "Wikipedia tutorial" using Hotcat". I must have done this when I clicked on the minus symbol at the bottom of the page. I didn't know what it was, so I clicked it, thinking I would be redirected to a page explaining it. What happened, and how can it be fixed? Sorry for the mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MoeJade (talk • contribs) 22:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted the edit for you - that page should explain what a revert is and how to perform one. This is what I did. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

login problem

I have changed my email address and cannot log in as I have forgotten my password. How can I access my account again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.78.123 (talk) 22:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you can still access your old e-mail address you can still request that a new password be emailed. Other than that, unless you had a user committed identity, I don't think there's any way to recover your account. Of course, you can still register a new account, and you can note your old account on its userpage. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 23:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

April 4

Too much security

Wik wrote: "Consider logging in on the secure server. If your password only contains letters or numbers, please read our article on password strength and consider changing it (in Special:Preferences after you log in). To avoid becoming a victim of phishing, always verify that you are viewing Wikipedia's login page when logging in. Do not give out your password to anyone"

My question is, what's the big deal if somebody gets my password to Wik?

Phising for what? A password to an encyclopedia?

Why the password in the first place?

Why all the paranoia?

Ed Brooks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.152.181 (talk) 01:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

To some people it's a big deal, especially with those who edit on a regular basis. A phished account used for vandalism could mean that even constructive edits made by that account's legitimate owner are systematically undone. Basically, it's about your reputation.

Additionally, to avoid having lots and lots of passwords to remember, many users use the same password in Wikipedia that they use in, say, their bank accounts. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 01:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If someone steals your password, they could go on a vandalism spree that gets your account banned. That's generally considered a bad thing. -- Kesh (talk) 02:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Especially if you became an administrator or something like that.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions|Guest)} 02:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I tried the "secure" login once, and before each and every page I clicked on, it notified me that the page contained both secure and insecure material, and "did I wish to proceed?" with no way to opt out from that continued slow torture of question and answer before each page opened. I would have had to answer "Yes!" about 300 times an hour. Thanks, but no thanks for all the "security." Edison (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)!

Depending on the browser version, Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 July 11#secure.wikimedia.org may help. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:36, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

What is the protocol on articles under the banner of dead projects?

Resolved

I want to make what I think some people might think is an important change to Federal Bureau of Investigation, see Talk:Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation#One_or_two_infoboxes?. The new infobox has been announced in the LE Project for quite a while now, and is starting to be picked up by editors.

BUT, the FBI Project is tagged as inactive and the only listed FBI Project Administrator's user page states that they are no longer a Wikipedian? How long do I wait before I be bold and just do it?

Peet Ern (talk) 05:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

That Wikiproject has been dead for 3+ months, so waiting for them isn't really in the equation here. If you feel like being cautious or think this will be a contentious decision, giving the topic a day or two for anyone who has the page on their watchlist to see the proposal might be good. Otherwise, just go for it. --erachima talk 08:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will wait a couple of days and sort it. Peet Ern (talk) 11:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Strange error when trying to access pages

Help! Every time I try to access a new page (whether it be the Main Page, this page, an article, etc.), I get a strange error message:

http://en.wikipedia.org

Replaced by addPortalLink()

The error window appears twice per page, and only gives me the choice of clicking "OK" to make it go away; if I want to avoid clicking "OK", I have to force my browser to quit. This only happens when I'm logged in, though. I use Safari 3.1 on a Macintosh computer. I have a friend who also uses Safari on a Mac, and she does not experience this problem (although she has no account to log in to). The problem only started about an hour ago.

Any help is much obliged! — Dulcem (talk) 08:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Strange error - "Replaced by addPortletLink()". (I worked around this by blanking my monobook.js.) —teb728 t c 08:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

about running a bot

Iam a user in telugu wikipedia. I want to categorize the wiktionary articles according to some areas like Mathematics, Chemsitry, Physics, etc...I want to develop a bot in Python to do this task. Can anybody give some links which explains how to create and run bots in Python thoroughly? Ravichandrae (talk) 08:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Start with WP:EIW#Bot. In particular see: m:Using the python wikipediabot. --Teratornis (talk) 06:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Users own verse on a page?

A user has added their own verse to the Whitchurch Canonicorum page. Is this allowed? White43 (talk) 09:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it is not. I've removed that from the page. A small snippet from the poem might be appropriate, provided it's relevant to the topic at hand and cited. But there's no reason whatsoever to post an entire poem, especially given the copyright issues involved. -- Kesh (talk) 12:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing removed

Hi, although I have used Wikipedia, I am a newbie at editing.

I would like to inquire why each time I have edited the Throughput Accounting [[6]] page someone removes my editing. The latest removal was done by Zahnrad [[7]] but I don't know how to ask that person why the editing was removed. I also noticed that editing done by TOCExpert was removed. These were done to improve the page.

Zahnrad added an information point on my discussion page [[8]] and I replied there but I don't know if Zahnrad will see it there.

Can someone tell me how to contact Zahnrad?

Thanks. TA User (talk) 09:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

See here [9]. User gives reasons.White43 (talk) 10:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I have seen the history but reasons given do not make sense, that is why I should find out why the editing was done from the person doing it. TA User (talk) 10:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You can leave a note on his talkpage: User talk:Zahnrad. The mediawiki software will alert him to it with the new messages bar. Woody (talk) 10:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know I was supposed to use edit to leave a note on someone own page but left a note there. Did I do it correctly? TA User (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that was correct. I would watchlist his page to see if he responds there. Woody (talk) 12:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

At least one reason for the removal is that the references were formatted incorrectly. The paragraph you added (and he removed) was not written in an encyclopedic manner, and sounded more promotional of the concept of Throughput Accounting than descriptive. Finally, adding bunch of external links isn't the way to properly source anything. See WP:EL for the rules on adding links to other sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesh (talk • contribs)

Thanks Woody. I have included it in my watchlist. TA User (talk) 13:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kesh. I have read WP:EL. I understand that it was not 'encyclopedically written' and will rewrite it. TA User (talk) 14:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I have re-done the References and the External Links of Throughput accounting according to the policy. I just can't find a way to capitalize the A of accounting in the title. Can someone please check if I did it correctly. Thanks for helping this newbie out. TA User (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Is it a proper noun requiring both words to be capitalized at all times? It seems like a common noun. Leebo ^T/C 16:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes Leebo, it is the generally accepted given name of the techinque in the accounting world. Throughput Accounting is often confused with the noun, accounting. Professionals universally refer to it as a concept, philosophy and technique. There are also books written about it. TA User (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I corrected the capitalization for you. For future reference, this is done with the move tab at the top of the page. This moves the current page to a new location and leaves a redirect behind. Leebo ^T/C 20:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Your help is much appreciated. I will remember for future use. TA User (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

political science

please give me some questions and answers in political science.

Hi, you should check out the Wikipedia article on that topic. If you still have any questions which are not answered there, please come back and ask and we'll try to help. -- Kesh (talk) 12:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 00:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

How do you put a rationale on a image you uploaded

I recently uploaded a image and it said that i need a license, or a rationale to put on the page. hwo do you do that? also, are pictures on strategy wiki already licensed? cause that is where i got http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Image:CNCGenerals-CHI2B.JPG

Also can you please tell me how to put images cause i don't get the how to edit wikipedia artical

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Windowsdefender (talk • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

While the StrategyWiki does have a GFDL tag on the page, as this is a screenshot (I would assume from one of the Command & Conquer games), you will need to tag the image with {{Non-free game screenshot}}. And, since it is not freely licensed, you'll also need to add a fair use rationale for each article the image is used in.

To actually use the image in an article, read the picture tutorial. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Finding reference

How please can I find all instances of [:http://www.angeltowns.com/town/peerage/ Leigh Rayment's Peerage Page] ? - Kittybrewster ☎ 10:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

There are quite a few links using Special:Linksearch: [10]. Woody (talk) 10:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Username Case Problem

I just signed up for an account and intend to start adding information soon. When I signed up, I requested the name "matatk" as this is the username I use elsewhere. The software seems to have translated it into "Matatk" (not what I wanted). Is there anything that can be done about this? I know it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things but I would like my name to be listed correctly :-).

Matatk (talk) 11:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You can set up a signature in "My Preferences" which appeasrs when you sign a comment and can have an initial lowercase letter. But I am almost certain your account name has to have a initial capital. It used to be a problem with article names as well, like IPod (now properly at iPod). Rmhermen (talk) 12:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)The system capitalizes the first letter of all pages automatically. It's not possible to create a page (and thus an account name which corresponds with a user page) with a lower case first letter. What you can do is edit your signature so it appears as a lower case "m" when you sign pages, and you can place {{lowercase}} on your user page to make it look lower case. Your name will always be capitalized in the page history and contributions though. Nothing to be done about that. Leebo ^T/C 12:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

international standards

what is intenational standards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.106.240.12 (talk) 12:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Try International standard
--Badgernet (talk) 13:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Shiatsu and Acupressure

Shiatsu and Acupressure both need someone who knows how to work with tables to fix their tables. Farmanesh (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Ignore the above, I fixed it myself. Farmanesh (talk) 13:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Need help

hi this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_Baby has a link to a site that leads to a virus/spyware/adware i dont know how to report this please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelastjedimaster (talk • contribs) 14:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You didn't say which link, so I can't delete for you. But, you can delete it yourself. Astronaut (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sarahmckem/Simon Bruce

Can someone please help. My client's page has been deleted and now is locked. This all happened in the first 25 minutes of me creating it, I had placed the {{holdon}} tag on it which you can see was removed by an admin for some reason. In my attempt to honor all copywrites, rewrite the bio from what I had written on the actual webpage, the page seems to have been removed

Can someone please reinstate the Simon Bruce page? He has sold over 100k albums at the age of 19 in Australia and is in the process of getting a major record deal in Nasvhille Tennessee. I can send out a bulletin for his 65k fans on myspace to come to wiki and "request" a simon bruce site if that will help.

Please advise.

Sarahmckem (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to promote this non-notable musician. The fact his is your client reveals an obvious conflict of interest. All this has been explained many times on your talk page. Please go and read the comments left there and in particular follow the links to the various Wikipedia policies and read them as well.

Requests from 65,000 "friends" (who the hell has that many real friends?) will not help you circumvent Wikipedia's policies. Astronaut (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You have a major conflict of interest here. Since Simon Bruce is your client, you should not be creating or editing any articles about him in or on Wikipedia. And, while you may not mean it that way, the suggestion about sending out a bulletin to his fanbase sounds like a threat to have Wikipedia vandalized, especially since you have put the word "request" in scarequotes. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Copied over from my talk page for comment by other editors, re WP:COI and/or WP:BITE

Can you please explain my code violation I read the conflict of interest and I dont see how it applies.--Sarahmckem (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

No, he is not my client. I am a 43 year old mother of 2 in San Francisco and I have no connection at all. My 16 year old son lives in Nashville and heard about this kid Simon Bruce. I contacted the girl who made his webpage and asked since she wrote the bio could she make the wikipage page account and upload it because she had all the copywrites and of course I wanted to comply (i have had my own account for 3 years). It was shut down the minute she put it up and I have been on here trying to comply with all the requests to make the page right. I have no conflict of interest, I was just trying to get the sources of the copywrites to upload it themselves.

I had thought it would be better for them to do it than for me to do it. Would it be better for me to make this page under my own established account then, and get many people to request the page?

--Sarahmckem (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

OMG you said i made a page about myself? You are so wrong. email me and i will give you my phone number and you will see I am an old lady that lives in San Francisco! email removed --Sarahmckem (talk) 16:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

In your post to the Wikipedia talk page, you described him as "my client." Are you now claiming he is not your client? --Orange Mike | Talk 16:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

given that these are 20 year old kids who work at Walmart trying to use Wiki to bring awareness of their talented friend You have really given them a hard time. I have instructed Sarah to close her account. I have only been trying to help these kids out. this isnt some big management, pr company. We will leave you now with your really bad attitude and delete this account.. happy now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahmckem (talk • contribs) 16:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

How do we delete our user account?--Sarahmckem (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You may have seemed harsh, with wordings such as “grossly in violation”, but the user (or users) seem to be confused about what Wikipedia is and what it should be used for. If they wish to find another site to promote their friend, it’s all for the best. Leebo ^T/C 17:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry you have not had a pleasant experience on Wikipedia, but you appear to have misunderstood the purpose of the site and its rules. Accounts cannot be deleted, due to the licensing Wikipedia uses. Simply cease using your account if you no longer wish to contribute, or see m:Right to vanish. -- Kesh (talk) 17:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

New user creating pages

I am a first-time user (just created an account today) and I want to upload a short article. I've read the instructions and tried to upload my file, but got an error message saying “The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups Autoconfirmed users, Sysops.” I am assuming that I will get an "Autoconfirmed" status 4 days after creating an account (i.e., on Wednesday), but I wanted to confirm that my understanding is correct and I am not missing anything.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsmalyuk (talk • contribs) 16:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe new users can create new pages. So, you may be misunderstanding how to create a new page. It's not done through the file upload process, which is restricted to autoconfirmed users. Try following the instructions on Help:Starting a new page. Leebo ^T/C 16:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Right, new users cannot create or move articles until 4 days after their account was created. -- Kesh (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

No, new users can create new pages, they cannot move them. Woody (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I think Nsmalyuk figured it out, because he created a page not long ago. Leebo ^T/C 17:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, my apologies. I must not have remembered correctly. Though its seems odd to restrict moves and allow page creation. -- Kesh (talk) 22:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

What type of file did you try to upload? Wikipedia articles must be written with wikitext and cannot be uploaded files in other formats like Word, PDF, ... Maybe Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format is of help if you have content in another format. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

However, please be aware that starting new articles from scratch is often not the best idea for brand-new users. Wikipedia has many policies and guidelines that surprise a lot of newcomers. There are many things that Wikipedia is not. When new users start new articles, often they violate some rule on Wikipedia, and their articles get deleted. It's better to start by making small edits to existing articles, and reading our manuals. After you have several hundred edits, you'll know more about how Wikipedia works and have a better chance of starting a new article that "sticks." Be sure to save a copy of any new articles you do create, on your own computer, so you still have your work if it gets deleted here. --Teratornis (talk) 06:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

i cannot add my submission for the 2nd time!

I run and own Speaker Junkies. It's my band. I uploaded our biography twice and for both times, Wikipedia says i'm copyright infringing on another site!!! Well, that biography is posted all over the internet. I wrote it. I keep contesting it, but Speaker Junkies keeps getting deleted w/out fairness. How do i fix this?

Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeknoPunk (talk • contribs) 16:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you could provide proof of the ownership of the content in question...--Cameron (t|p|c) 16:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You shouldn't be trying to copy over that biography anyway. Firstly, you have a conflict of interest when writing about yourself. On top of that, it's unlikely you wrote the biography to the standards of encyclopedic tone that Wikipedia requires. Lastly, you probably aren't establishing your band's notability either. If you are notable, someone else will write about you. Leebo ^T/C 16:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the deleted version of the page confirms my thoughts above. Lines like "Their addictive music will awaken your inner dance child and their amazing LIVE performance will leave you craving for more" have no place in an encylopedia. Let someone else write this if you meet the notability requirements. Leebo ^T/C 16:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:PEACOCK to learn about "promotional language" and why we don't use it on an encyclopedia. --Teratornis (talk) 06:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The J.M. Smucker Company/Hungry Jack Link

Resolved

Good afternoon. When following the hot link from the Smucker page, readers are taken to the Hungry Jack/Burger King Australia site. Is there a way to have this link removed?

In [11] I have changed it to a red link to Hungry Jack (Smucker brand) instead of removing the link completely. This should ensure that somebody else doesn't accidentally link the unrelated Hungry Jack again. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Warning message

When I load any page here, I get a message that says: " Replaced by addPortletLink()". It's rather annoying. Grsz11 16:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, I fixed it. Thanks anyways! Grsz11 17:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

who was the father of the science fiction?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.74.65 (talk) 16:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Depends on what you mean by the term "father." Cases could be made for anybody from Lucian of Samosata to Hugo Gernsback. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Moved to Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Who_was_the_father_of_science_fiction.3F. --Cameron (t|p|c) 17:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia articles

My web site has a dozen or so links to Wikipedia articles. When I run some software (Xenu) to check the integrity of my site, it checks not only my internal but my outbound links, and reports on the ones that point to pages that don't exist. But it can't do this for the links to Wikipedia, I get messages like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraldry
error code: 403 (forbidden request), linked from page(s):
[etc.]

Is there a reason for this? Does Wikipedia block the requests from Xenu? and from other automated accesses? Is there a way round it?

It's not really a problem for me, Xenu lists all the "forbidden request"s, and there's few enough that I can check them all manually. But it seems odd. Maproom (talk) 17:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Our robots.txt at http://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt says:

# Some bots are known to be trouble, particularly those designed to copy
# entire sites. Please obey robots.txt.
...
User-agent: Xenu
Disallow: /

So yes, Wikipedia prevernts Xenu access. I don't know whether there is a recommended alternative. You might get better answers at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright restrictions

I uploaded a jpg file to attach to the article on Madeline Schiller, but apparently did not click a box on copyright, which I did not see. There are no copyright restrictions on this picture, which I noted in my comments. What should I now do? Wikipedia has the picture somewhere. ````Michael Keyton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyton (talk • contribs) 17:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks like the orphan bot deleted your picture already so what i would suggest is to re upload the picture and make sure that you put the correct copyright information for that picture

Staffwaterboy ^Talk♂ 17:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You will also have to re add the image to the article.Is there anything else that i can help you with ?

Staffwaterboy ^Talk♂ 17:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's deleted. It's this right? Image:Madeline Schiller.jpg‎. Leebo ^T/C 17:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I Changed the copyright to you as the image holder and provider all you have to do now is edit the information that goes with the picture which can be done here [12] i hope that helps Staffwaterboy ^Talk♂ 17:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

According to the metadata on the image, the image was created by a scanner. So presumably you scanned it from a published work but did not take the original photograph (as the caption itself suggests). So your scan is a derivative work which does not give you a copyright which you can license. Judging from the style of the image, however, it may be in the public domain, depending on who took the photo and where it was published. —teb728 t c 18:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Freezing computer which finally shut down

I've asked about this several times before. Perhaps someone knows how to find the other details from the other times I asked it.

All I did was go to the Wikipedia Help Desk archives. I had done nothing else except try to go to another web site which wouldn't let me in due to not having Adobe Flash on this computer, which I am not in control of.

Then I got a message that Internet Explorer had a problem and needed to close. The reason was Macromedia Flash. (I had gotten a message saying there is a new version of that, but that too is not under my control).

I was in the archive and able to scroll down and read despite this annoying message in the middle of the screen. Then the screen went blank and I saw a list of places I could go, such as Internet Explorer and Microsoft Word.

What could possibly be going on in Wikipedia? It's usually the ads that cause this mess.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think this is a wikipedia problem. IE apparently had a problem with the flash you viewed, and which persisted until it finally crashed. It just happened to be when you were viewing WP. -- Kesh (talk) 22:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I've had problems with IE7 specifically when viewing Wikipedia, but nothing that uninstalling/reinstalling IE7 didn't fix. You may get more help at the reference desk. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Corporate Listing Question

I need some direction on how we might be able to list information about our company, Next Generation Logistics, Inc. on Wikipedia.com

I have noted that there are several other companies such as West Libert Foods, US Foodservice and Sysco Corporation just to mention a few.

Our listing keeps getting deleted by the various administrators because of different reason which I really don't understand. It seems a bit discriminatory to us.

Is there someone we can talk to for assistance?

Best Regards,

Aristides P. Smith, President Next Generation Logistics, Inc. contact info removed for user's safety —Preceding unsigned comment added by AristidesSmith (talk • contribs) 18:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC) AristidesSmith (talk) 19:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the article was only created/delete once, and it was deleted as a copyright violation. I assume you copied information that was already on your website? While you could release the copyright on your website information (by either contacting OTRS or placing a notice of such on the page you're copying, that content is probably too advertorial in nature to be appropriate for Wikipedia, and individuals associated with a company are highly discouraged from writing about it. And any article you do write is liable to be deleted again unless it demonstrates it meets our notability requirement. The main criterion is that your company have received coverage from multiple reliable sources, and from searching the web none seem apparent to me. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It is not impossible to write an encyclopedia article about your own company, but it is harder than it sounds. I suggest that you either: ask someone else to write an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles or Wikipedia:Bounty board; or write the article yourself as a user sub-page, and then ask for help at Wikipedia:Articles for creation or Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Bovlb (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

how to search for investment companies

I would like to read articles on invesment in different companies for;

 Infrastures, water, food, energy.

How do I look for these options in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcha (talk • contribs) 19:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You don't. That's far too detailed information on corporate spending for any encyclopedic article. You'd want a more specialized financial source for that. -- Kesh (talk) 22:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't give investment advice but maybe something in Category:Investment will be of generel interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Threats to "subpoena" IP Address, etc.

I'm really sorry if I've missed this elsewhere but I'm wondering if it's considered acceptable for users to make these kind of threats...

"If you keep up your current shenanigans, I will act to have your IP blocked, and traced. If you happen to have made these alterations from an official computer that is in an office allied with Hillary, or Waters, or Richardson, I will be sure the media finds out. You don't want that kind of press." from 75.61.78.77

(For the record, I don't work for any of the above politicians...or any politician)

The "shenanigans" referred to was the removal of irrelevant information about how particular Democratic Superdelegates intended to vote compared with how their districts voted in primary elections. As discussed on the Wikipedia Superdelegate page, Superdelegates are unpledged and free to vote for whomever they choose. There is no correlation between how a Superdelegate votes and any of the various votes cast by constituents as is being implied by continued edits to Maxine Waters' biography and to those of several others.

--Smart Ways (talk) 20:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it can definitely fall under the heading of "threat". However, the only policy I know off that specifically prohibits such behavior is the uttering of legal threats to another editor, or Wikipedia itself. Warn the user about WP:CIVIL, WP:HARASS and no personal attacks. I suggest that if it continues to drop a note at WP:ANI. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The arbitration committee has made it very clear that any threat of off-wiki action made to stop a content dispute is a potentially blockable offence. Someguy1221 (talk) 20:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link Someguy. Very informative. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I gave the user a 4im attack warning, as well as a legal threat warning. Grsz11 20:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help! I was beginning to get a little bit freaked out about the whole "I'll track your IP address" thing. Smart Ways (talk) 20:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Help using IRC to fight vandalism

I have requested that I be granted Huggle and it says that IRC access is recommended. I use Mozilla Firefox which I don't think is compatible with IRC. Could someone recommend a browser that is and explain to me how to use IRC to fight vandalism?--Urban Rose 20:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

ChatZilla is compatible with Firefox. Someguy1221 (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you post an article

Can you post your own article/page on one person, and write things about them? --Littledonkey786 (talk) 21:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, easily. If you search for someone's name and nothing comes up, there will be a red linked labled "Create this article." You should probably read Wikipedia:Your first article, and also the notability guidelines for people. If this person doesn't meet that guideline, the article will probably be deleted. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You may write an article about an individual if that person happens to be notable per our guidelines and written from a neutral point of view, that contains no original research and is verifiable by reliable sources. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 21:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :The short answer is "yes." The longer answer involves some of the policies and restrictions involved with editing Wikipedia. Firstly, no one "owns" any individual page. All pages belong to the community, even user pages and talk pages. So, when you create a page, be prepared for it to be edited by anyone else in the community. On the topic of creating pages about a person, the person has to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. You can find these at Wikipedia:Notability (people). So, if you don't mind other people editing the page, and the person is notable by Wikipedia's standards, you can create a page about them. There are other policies too, which are at Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. Leebo ^T/C 21:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Help using IRC

• #vandalism-en-wp - I have installed ChatZilla now, so I can open IRC with Firefox, but I can't seem to get access to the chat. It says I have to register or something. I'm sorry I'm not more familiar with this stuff.--Urban Rose 21:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

  I'm sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious here, but have you read WP:IRC? Bovlb (talk) 00:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

To edit article heading

The article titled Mantena Venkata Raju has a typo. It should read 'Manthena Venkata Raju'. Can you please help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by C3pix (talk • contribs) 22:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I've moved the page for you. You can also move pages - your account has been around for long enough (4 days minimum). x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing Conflict

I think I understand what an editing conflict is, but why does it delete all the text you've typed when it happens? Is there a way to prevent this from happening? I just typed a question a minute ago and someone posted the same time I did (apparently) and all my text was deleted from the edit box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by --Equilibrious (talk) 22:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)Equilibrious (talk • contribs) 22:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the software can determine the "merged" changes between edit conflicted users. An edit conflict occurs when you "lose out" and your edit is saved after you start your edit. I think this is why it's not possible for your text to be retrieved. There's also the case where you either:

1. Put replies in multiple locations of a thread at the same time
2. Do other things like just reply, such as correct the spelling of your previous replies

Neither of which have an easy mechanism for retrieving your text. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I had just posted a question, and when I hit 'Save Page' it came back with 'edit conflict', and all the text I had typed was gone. This has happened to me several times. --Equilibrious (talk) 22:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. But as I said above, there's not always an easy mechanism to return what you typed. Edit conflicts don't just happen because you reply to a thread, but can happen when I fix spelling errors, for example. And how should my text be returned in that case? x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Below the edit window that accompanies an edit conflict, there should be a "show changes" view and an edit view of the changes you tried to make. If your edits don't overlap with the conflicting edits, you can copy paste from there. Also, if you are trying to start a new thread on a page such as this one, you can click on the + tab at the top of the page to add a section, which isn't affected by edit conflicts. Personally, I try to remember to copy my additions before saving a page, just in case. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

So you have to type everything you just typed all over again, even though there was no error??? Ahhh...I see...thanks!!--Equilibrious (talk) 22:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Part of the reason for my question is if an edit / discussion took a long time to type, and someone posts an edit while I'm typing, it seems like the edit conflict shows up (?)--Equilibrious (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

And I think that's about correct. The software cannot guarantee that it can merge both edits so it edit-conflicts the one who took longer. The alternative would be to "lock" sections or articles so that only one person can edit it at a time but I know how this can be abused... x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I don’t believe the text is actually lost on an edit conflict. As I recall, when I have an edit conflict, there are two text windows in the edit conflict page. I believe that the second contains my edit. I usually develop new text in MS Word. That way I have the advantage of a spell checker, and I can just paste it into the edit window when it is ready. (That’s the reason I’m not certain about the edit conflict page: When I have edit conflicts, my text is still in Word.) —teb728 t c 23:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the text you tried to save is on the edit conflict page. See more at Help:Edit conflict. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Whenever I experience an edit conflict, I simply hit the back one page button on my browser and it takes me to the original window. Cut and paste your text, go back to the page in question and resubmit. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

That method usually works for me. Note to Equilibrious: the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia does not have a true threaded discussion feature. We are just using an ordinary wiki page here, which works well for pages that change slowly, but shows signs of strain when lots of people hammer on the same page (such as the Help desk). But someday, we may have liquid threads, which may work better for discussion. --Teratornis (talk) 06:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I might mention another possibility: when editing a busy page, open it in two separate browser tabs. You can edit in the first tab, and before you click "Save page", switch to the second tab and reload the page. If the section you are editing has changed, you can copy your text from the first tab and edit it into the latest state of the section in the second tab. --Teratornis (talk) 07:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

DRAFT Article Creation

1. If I want to begin a draft article for submission, where / how do I store it until I get it completed?
2. Can someone steer me towards wikipedia formatting instructions for new articles?

Hopefully these questions aren't too dumb. I did search and found plenty on editing, but didn't see much about new articles. Thanks! --Equilibrious (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi! WP:MOS, and if you want, you can draft out an article in your own userpage, or your own sandbox. I hope this helps, Stwalkerster [ talk ] 22:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Your first article and links there like Wikipedia:Writing better articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I learned a lot from WP:LAYOUT when I was new. I still refer to it when I have to remember the order of the standard sections (See also, References, External links), although I guess I just remembered them. And then there's Help:Category, Help:Infobox, Help:Template, and oh about 2000 other essential instruction pages. Just read everything linked from the Editor's index and you're good to go. The cool thing about Wikipedia is you'll still be learning things worth knowing even when your edit count is up in the thousands. By the time you learn everything we've got now, our 49,185,925 users will have invented a whole new raft of great stuff. In some ways, Wikipedia is the center of the universe. --Teratornis (talk) 07:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism Accusation

I have been accused of vandalism by the user User:Papajohnin for the removal of the image image:BilboTBaggins.jpg from the article Teabagging. I think this is unfair as i felt it was a valid edit - he then instantly accused me of vandalism which is extreme for a simple edit. He then removed my complaint directed at him from his talkpage and undid an earlier edit i made to the Jin Shin Do page, for no reason presumably other than spite. I think that is he that is the vandal, or at least incredibly rude and uncivil for doing this. 77.96.99.100 (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I stand by my claim of you making disruptive edits to Wikipedia. You don't just impulsively remove content on a whim when the issue has been decidedly discussed and considered closed. If you have problems with content add to the discussion. The actual reason Mr. 77.96.99.100 decided to delete the image is false anyway as it's for commentary on Halo as it relates to the article not the article in general so his argument makes no sense anyway. He is just trying to find away gratify himself and excuse his childish behavior.--Papajohnin (talk) 23:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The rationale was acceptable for removing the image from the article. Wikipedia encourages being bold when updating pages. Discussion is required when disputes occur, not accusations of vandalism. Leebo ^T/C 23:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Please no personal attacks.

If it is a commentary on Halo, why is it on a teabagging page? 77.96.99.100 (talk) 00:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely, that's what I'm saying, no discussion took place. It may not have been vandalism now but that still makes it disruptive. 77.96.99.100: Have you read the article? It is in the section dealing with video games - specifically, the act being performed in Halo. Not having an image there is detrimental to the readers understanding - ESPECIALLY since there is no main image with which the reader can identify with, your more than welcome to add one though.--Papajohnin (talk) 02:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I can already imagine the MfD over an image like that... :D -- Kesh (talk) 02:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

As Leebo says, “Discussion is required when disputes occur.” There was no dispute until you reverted the removal of the image; so it was your job to initiate the discussion. It was your bogus accusation of vandalism that was disruptive. —teb728 t c 02:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Removal of content can also be considered as initiating a dispute (since you believe it doesn't belong there). I suggest the two of you both remove the chips from your shoulders and just settle down to a discussion on the article's Talk page to reach a consensus. -- Kesh (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

April 5

Vandal Report

Im trying to tell somebody to check the entry on Charlotte Perkins Gilman. Someone has written that she was born in "pussyville" and "took it in the ass". I thought someone should know that this entry has been wrongfully tampered with. Thank you. Karen.wedderburn (talk) 01:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Will sort out. Thanks. (Although in the future, you can fix it too :) Be Bold!). --Bfigura ^(talk) 01:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, see WP:REVERT and WP:WARN for future occurrences. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

What you are describing here is blatant vandalism and should be treated accordingly. Please note that the three-revert rule does not apply to that kind of vandalism, and you may revert such edits as often as required. But before reverting an edit, you should warn the perpetrator according to WP:WARN. If the perpetrator persists after you issued a level 4 warning, report him at WP:AIV. At this point, it is pointless to continue warning him, so just keep reverting his edits. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 13:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Daytona Beach Notable inhabitants -- How to make Lee Apperson's Bio and many awards on the page accessable

[edit] Notable inhabitants Dan Allen, comedian Duane Allman and Gregg Allman, musicians Vince Carter, professional basketball player Bill France, founder of NASCAR Ryan Lochte, 2004 Olympic medalist in swimming Mary McLeod Bethune, civil rights activist Kevin Nash, professional wrestler Josef Papp, engineer who was awarded patents related to the development of a fusion engine and claimed to have invented a jet submarine. Ron Rice, former owner/founder of Hawaiian Tropic Glen "Fireball" Roberts, former NASCAR driver David Sholtz, 26th governor of Florida. Mike Skinner, NASCAR driver Howard Thurman, author and theologian T. K. Wetherell, president of Florida State University Robert Wright, musical theater writer Lee Apperson, professional body builder and former Mister America Fulgencio Batista, 19th Cuban President Ransom Eli Olds, Automobile Pioneer Smokey Yunick, mechanic and motor racing innovator —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.207.97.42 (talk) 03:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying to understand. Are you asking how to create an article for Lee Apperson or are you asking how to add Lee Apperson to the list of notable residents in the Daytona Beach, Florida article? To create an article you must register for an account and follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Your first article --Torchwood Who? (talk) 04:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

If you click "edit this page" or the section editing button for the section, which appears right next to the headline for: Daytona Beach, Florida#Notable inhabitants, you will see that some of the names are surrounded by two [[brackets]]. These brackets tell our software to link the word inside them to an existing article. You don't see these brackets when you are in read mode but just the link created by their addition. If the link is blue, that means we have an article on the subject; if the link is red, that means we don't yet have an article and clicking on the link will take you to a page which, if you have signed up for a account, will allow you to create the article. Lee Apperson can be linked by placing his name in brackets, but there is no article on him on Wikipedia yet. See the post above for advice about how to create the article, but please review first our notability requirements for biographies, and our policy for articles abut living people. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

call monitoring sys

i have to change datagrid values regarding their district wise and status wise..

i have 6 district and 5 status...

first i have to bound 1st district and its 1st status values in datagrid using asp.net

then  1st district and its 2nd status values like that....after changing 5 status then show 2nd district and its status one by one

i have to do this for a call monitoring system.

i have to do this as a web application also.

how can i do this programm.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.96.47.18 (talk) 09:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there a specific article you are working on that I can take a look at and try to assist you with?--Torchwood Who? (talk) 09:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

If not, I think you misunderstood the help desk. The help desk is here to service wikipedia related issues, not as a general all-purpose help chat.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 09:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

How to make a big border in a table ?

Hi, I want to make a bigger border in a table to split up a Comparison of layout engines (SVG). By the bigger border it will be clearer the difference of layout engines and plugins. by ! style="width: 9%; border-right:3px solid grey;" | It works, but in the next row it won't work if i try to make it by the following line: Mabdul (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)| style="border-right:3px solid grey;" | How do I have to code this? Mabdul (talk) 13:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You might want to use nested tables. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 13:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

that don't want i use: I want to make only a big "line" from the first row to the last in the "middle" of the table (between amaya and adobe svg viewer) --> so there it becomes clearer to the reader that are layout engines in the first section and in the second libraries and plugins. There need any way to style the table without making a new stupid 1row-1column-table in another table. the table will become to big for that (on my talk page i give an example what i mean!Mabdul (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Archiver not working again...

Can someone fix the archiver on my talk page? Maury (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

We've already had complaints about that bot. The maintainer asked for its deletion. You'll have to look for a new one...or do it manually. Feel free to contact me if you want it done manually and dont know how to...or read Help:Archiving a talk page--Cameron (t|p|c) 14:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

referencing

I have made an update to the section on The Carbon Reduction Commitment but I'm having difficulty in setting up the referencing. I note the last person used <ref name=DEFRA-CRC"/>, which now links to the updated page, but needs to be updated in the referencing section. How did they set this up and how can I update this or add another reference in the same format?

Thank you

Whiz10 (talk) 14:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)Whiz10

At the bottom of the article is a section denominated "References", which has a template placed in it you can only see while in edit mode: {{Reflist}}. This template tells the software that references placed in the text of the article in <ref></ref> format will appear as footnotes at the end of the article in the "References" section. So, if I wanted to cite to a reference at the end of this sentence, I would type<ref> followed by some text and ending with</ref>. Anything I typed between those two tags would appear, when saved and in read mode, as a footnote entry under the references banner if this page had one. However, every time I use just type <ref>text</ref>, a separate footnote is created. If I want to use a single reference more than once and not have this redundancy, I give it a name. The first time I use it I type <ref name="name">text</ref> and every time I want to use the exact same reference again, I simply type (note the closing slash). Please see WP:CITE for lots more information. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)